Yet another new suggestion...
Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:52 am
I've been looking over the previous pages, and let me say first off that I know little about kanji, so my assumptions here are based on the above posts and what web-based translation tools I have available, but I do enjoy teasing out the hidden meanings behind using one word rather than another.
That said, I feel that the biggest difference between the IDSE and the 広域帯宇宙存在 lies in the 広域 (wide area) portion, versus Yuki's "integrated" group. "Entity" vs. "existence" really only backs this up, as the terms "entity" and "integrated" both imply cohesion, while "existence" and "wide area" (or more properly, "dispersed," in this context) imply a lack of cohesion.
Taking the 帯 (band, like a radiation band, or maybe radio band) into account is where I get the impression that the 広域帯宇宙存在 is like some nebulous presence made up of the universe's background radiation or the castoff energies of dying stars, or something similar, that over the eons has developed a type of sentience of its own, enough to put it on par with the IDSE, while being far less of a coherent entity.
While I think that the IDSE is pretty "nebulous" and "dispersed" in it's own right, as described in the books, I feel that it's not quite as spread out as the 広域帯宇宙存在. Kinda like the difference between two of the ideas about the existence of a Supreme Being. In the one school of thought, you've got God. Yeah, He's kinda omnipresent, but He's God. You can point to Him (figuratively, at least) and go "There He is." This is the IDSE. In the other school of thought, God is more of a universal existence, surrounding and suffusing everything, kind of an ambient Presence, that's not exactly always evident, but is still definitely there. That's more how I see the 広域帯宇宙存在.
Which brings me to my suggestion:
"Ambient Cosmic Energy Existence."
"Cosmic" and "existence" are gimmes. "Galactic" is too narrowly defined, and "universal" just doesn't sound right. "Presence" could work instead of "existence," but it carries maybe a little too strong of a dangerous connotation, and it really just doesn't strike me as a word Yuki would use. "Ambient" is a good word that means ominipresent, without implying an "active" existence. It, I think, is the word most of you have been looking for, as it covers "dispersed" and "macrospatial" both in one word (and likewise "macrozonal" and "wide-area"). "Energy," admittedly, is the weak point, as it sounds very bland, and not nearly as cool as "quantum." It does, however, cover the energy component implied by 帯, while lacking the unnecessary specificity of energy type that "quantum" carries with it.
Sorry to be so long-winded, but what are your thoughts?
That said, I feel that the biggest difference between the IDSE and the 広域帯宇宙存在 lies in the 広域 (wide area) portion, versus Yuki's "integrated" group. "Entity" vs. "existence" really only backs this up, as the terms "entity" and "integrated" both imply cohesion, while "existence" and "wide area" (or more properly, "dispersed," in this context) imply a lack of cohesion.
Taking the 帯 (band, like a radiation band, or maybe radio band) into account is where I get the impression that the 広域帯宇宙存在 is like some nebulous presence made up of the universe's background radiation or the castoff energies of dying stars, or something similar, that over the eons has developed a type of sentience of its own, enough to put it on par with the IDSE, while being far less of a coherent entity.
While I think that the IDSE is pretty "nebulous" and "dispersed" in it's own right, as described in the books, I feel that it's not quite as spread out as the 広域帯宇宙存在. Kinda like the difference between two of the ideas about the existence of a Supreme Being. In the one school of thought, you've got God. Yeah, He's kinda omnipresent, but He's God. You can point to Him (figuratively, at least) and go "There He is." This is the IDSE. In the other school of thought, God is more of a universal existence, surrounding and suffusing everything, kind of an ambient Presence, that's not exactly always evident, but is still definitely there. That's more how I see the 広域帯宇宙存在.
Which brings me to my suggestion:
"Ambient Cosmic Energy Existence."
"Cosmic" and "existence" are gimmes. "Galactic" is too narrowly defined, and "universal" just doesn't sound right. "Presence" could work instead of "existence," but it carries maybe a little too strong of a dangerous connotation, and it really just doesn't strike me as a word Yuki would use. "Ambient" is a good word that means ominipresent, without implying an "active" existence. It, I think, is the word most of you have been looking for, as it covers "dispersed" and "macrospatial" both in one word (and likewise "macrozonal" and "wide-area"). "Energy," admittedly, is the weak point, as it sounds very bland, and not nearly as cool as "quantum." It does, however, cover the energy component implied by 帯, while lacking the unnecessary specificity of energy type that "quantum" carries with it.
Sorry to be so long-winded, but what are your thoughts?