Darknemo2000 wrote:I still haven't received an answer why you have to follow the in this particular case because SaW is much more similar to Toradora or ZnT.
Those two projects are ALSO doing it wrong. I'm doing this with S&W for two reasons: 1) I have a personal interest in this project (I don't find either ZnT or Toradora to be that interesting) and 2) I caught it early enough to easily fix it. I want to make sure it's done right BEFORE it gets done wrong, not go back and fix it all after the fact.
The fact that two other projects are doing it wrong is not a valid excuse to do this one wrong too.
Darknemo2000 wrote:The translation is slow and rather inconsistent. No matter what you cannot guarantee your presence through long periods, because again we live a real life and not only virtual and many things can happen.
You can't guarantee the SITE'S presence through long periods. This entire argument is based on a fear that somehow everyone involved with the project will vanish and make it impossible for anyone else to continue. Do you honestly think that's possible? Do you honestly think that any one person, or even a half dozen people, leaving this project would make it impossible for someone else to continue where they left off?
Darknemo2000 wrote:Making image uploading depending on yourself you are making the project too vulnerable. specially with the latest lock from editing.
I am not making the process dependent solely on me. I am trying to make you understand that it is not necessary for you (or anyone else) do do what you are doing. When I say "I'll do it" I am using myself as an example. (Even though I will literally do it if it needs to be done)
Darknemo2000 wrote:Personally, I suggest to change the guidelines considering that different projects have different specifics and something that is Haruhi based (so what if Majority of it was written before the guidelines, it just shows how heavily guidelines are orientated towards Haruhi project).
So do you want to use Haruhi as a basis or not? The format guidelines have been written to be very generic. You seem to both want to use Haruhi as a basis and complain how Haruhi is unique and shouldn't be used as an example...
Darknemo2000 wrote:The number of projects grow and the guidelines should also be edited accordingly to make them more flexible because they are too heavily Haruhi based at the moment.
And they have been. The format guidelines are actually quite different than the original drafts that were almost entirely Haruhi-based. They were written in anticipation that there would be many future projects.
S&W is not significantly different from Haruhi anyway. You like to cite translation speed but that has no meaning to the Internet.
Darknemo2000 wrote:Yes it was my mistake thinking that uploading them into image collection and then linking them into the text creates a quality of thumbnail, however another argument still seems to be totally unanswered - that is not tying the project to your own persona and not excluding the possibility that someone may have better quality scans.
I answered this already, twice. We agreed that the JPGs scale better than the PNGs. However the limitations of the server do not allow for "high quality" scans - at least scans that are significantly higher resolution than the ones we have now. This is a physical limit of the host and something I have no control over. And HQ scans will need to be scaled down in order to be uploaded, which defeats the purpose of using HQ scans.
Darknemo2000 wrote:Your argument about spoilers is invalid (as color images are spoilers by themselves) and you cannot take "I will not go anywhere" or "because I said so" for a serious argument at all. Unless you are a god, which I somehow doubt, you cannot guarantee your presence throughout the project.
The color images are not spoilers any more than a standard preview. They were put there by the publisher and are intended to be seen first. If the publisher wanted the B&W images to be seen first they would also be at the beginning of the book. They are not because they were intended to be viewed in context.
Darknemo2000 wrote:Thats why I do not see any logic in your arguments but "I am right because I am stronger (can block you from editing), and thus you are wrong". But any intelligent person should restrict himself from using such silly argument.
Part of my job is to enforce standards. My argument of "because I said so" is just as more valid than your "because I want it that way" (and I said I hate using that method, y'know.) If you want to deviate from the established standard, then you discuss it FIRST. You don't just rearrange things as you see fit, especially when you aren't familiar with the established standards. Unfortunately we're having the discussion now, after it's all gotten out of hand.
Undoing the edits of TWO administrators knowing full well that the administrators did not want those edits is vandalism. I protected those pages to prevent further vandalism by you.
Darknemo2000 wrote:The probably most sensible argument is that you are wiling to keep it as close to original text, but then you would have to remove the back cover and place it in the end of the volume.
Propose that as an alteration to the format guideline, then.
Darknemo2000 wrote:But again this is already different in so many aspects that I do not think that following the original format is a very good argument.
You're right, it's already wrong so let's not try and fix it - just redefine what's "right" because that's easier. It's not like we spent any time or effort discussing and refining the current guidelines so they could actually be applied.
Everything else in that post is purely subjective on your part.
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