ばか！バカ！　馬鹿ー月！

Teh_ping wrote:
Another thing that Joay and I want to discuss and standardise now is the speech pattern of the SISTERs and especially LO. Joay's opinion is this:

joay_b wrote:Hmm, that one's a toughie. Not only we're setting on a single speech pattern for Last Order, we're setting also a single speech pattern for the rest of the Sisters.

The best I can think for now is to compile a sampling of what the Sisters said (including Last Order), open a thread for this one, and discuss from there.

But here's my sample ...

「ミサカは一人でもタクシーに乗れるもん、ってミサカはミサカは胸を張って宣言してみる」

" 'Misaka can ride in the taxi alone', says Misaka as Misaka tries to announce with pride."

and I want to change to it, so editors, please?

Enigma wrote:

Teh_ping wrote:Another thing that Joay and I want to discuss and standardise now is the speech pattern of the SISTERs and especially LO.

I want to change to it, so editors, please?

I was actually going to bring this up after we settled the other issues (although I was also going to do so before them...), so this saves me the trouble, I suppose.

Though concerned that this'll completely derail the thread, I did come across one issue. Basically, Last Order uses her　"Misaka wa Misaka wa" without the quoting particle, so I improvised. I also did a quick search through volumes 12, 13, and 15 to use as a reference, but she doesn't appear to do it anywhere else. Anyway, the English and Japanese texts:

Spoiler! :

Japanese text wrote:『まぁまぁまぁまぁ、ってミサカはミサカはなだめてみたり。気恥ずかしいのは分かるけどミサカはミサカはちゃんとバスタオル装備してるんだから。あんまり意識すると逆にキツイぞ、ってミサカはミサカは人生の先輩としてアドバイスを贈ってみる』

Translated text wrote:“‘Don’t be agitated, don’t be agitated,’ says Misaka as Misaka comforts you. ‘Misaka knows that you’re embarrassed,’ although Misaka verifies Misaka is properly wrapped in a bath towel. ‘The atmosphere will be even more awkward if you’re mindful of it,’ says Misaka as Misaka gives advice as a lifetime elder.”

So, it'd be nice if I could get a translator's opinion on how to make it work better.

Edit: While I'm derailing the thread horrifically, I might as well ask what you two (Ping and Joay) think of the furigana font I was doing for volume 13 (where instead of having a meaning in parentheses, it's above the text in a smaller text) that I pretty much stole from a certain other Baka-tsuki project. All I know it does is make the pdf-making people annoyed.

Enigma wrote:

Darklor wrote:Also wasnt she the one who says Miska Misaka?

Last Order does emphasize Misaka twice, but it isn't just "Misaka Misaka (ミサカミサカ)", but something that doesn't translate all that well (ミサカはミサカは). Wow, look at me like, acting as if I actually have enough knowledge on the language to try to explain it. I wonder how Funimation is going to handle it... (Assuming they haven't already and I'm out of date.)

Darklor wrote:
Hmm too bad in the english wiki they have it only as:

Like her older clone sisters, she speaks in third person with a description, except she says "Misaka" twice.

Kadi wrote:Well, in Japanese, it's Misaka ha/wa Misaka ha/wa. ha/wa is the so called topic particle, so the word before the particle sets the topic for the sentence. It can be similar to the subject of a sentence, but it's far from limited to that. And I think that why they are hesitant about just repeating Misaka twice for Last Order.

Darklor wrote:But this particle has no counterpart in the Englih language?

Kadi wrote:Nope, there's no counterpart. You might be able to create a workaround that works wherever "ha/wa" comes up, but that would be totally messy. Like "Regarding the topic of Misaka regarding the topic of Misaka...". You get the point.

Ohh, I could have mentioned it earlier, but (because of that ha/wa particle), Japanese can be categorized as topic-based/-centric language or whatever it was called, and most Western languages should be subject-based/-centric, indicating that there are no real equivalents.

SilverPhyX wrote:Wait, I'm getting slightly confused. So far, all the samples are from LO, right? None of the SISTERS have been included? How do the SISTERS speak differently, then?