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and could you please write you local time. mine ist GMT+1 16:11
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My time zone is GMT+7, currently 10:18PM

I checked a few more ePub: Toradora, To Aru Majustu no Index, Suzumiya Haruhi; all of them have problem with page before image went blank half way even when image is at thumbnail size. Probably iBooks being dumb or something.
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Please try this one >>SAO - Volume 1<<
There are more 3 more images(the picture with the GM) with some changes to the configuration.

And yes most likely iBooks
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All first 3 images look the same (bad), while the last image is smaller but still had border/placement issue.
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I think the best way to handle Light Novels with epub is to just omit images within text and adding them at the end of the chapter instead by forcing new page. For me it'll look better than having some pages went blank half way when there's an image on the next page.
I tried making test epub but found more issues, like getting blank page after image (probably image size is too big, resized to y=800 still got the same result) or inconsistent line spacing between chapters (might need to make chapter .xhtml template and adding text to it directly).

I live in Thailand (GMT+7) and English isn't my native language so I'm sorry if my English is sometimes hard to understand.

On the side note: Does PRS-T1 supports PDF? and if so how does it look like?
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BeginnerXP wrote:All first 3 images look the same (bad), while the last image is smaller but still had border/placement issue.
it seems the iBooks does not handle some parts CSS well. Because 2nd and 3rd img schould have been forced to be resiced to your screen like 2nd width 30% and 3rd 16.6%
the last one was have been forced to have height="500" and width="250" pixel.

And i would like to try one more time if you don't mind.

Which sice schould you think the pictures schould have ? height,width?

I will just use minimum of css to what happens.

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So here one more time >>>SAO - Volume 1<<<

Here some info

1st image

Code: Select all

XHTML
<p><img alt="" class="image-wraper" src="../Images/oooo1.jpg" /></p>
2nd image

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XHTML
<p><img alt="" class="float" src="../Images/oooo1.jpg" /></p>
3rd image

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<p><img alt="" class="image-wraper" height="500" width="300" src="../Images/oooo1.jpg" /></p>
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.image-wrapper {
	float: right;
	width: 250px;
	height: 500px;
	margin-left: 10px
}
.float {
	float: right;
	margin-left: 10px;
}
so thats it. Please try it.

Could you also get some iBooks samples like “Children’s Picture Books” with no DRM; these tend to be fixed-layout books, because we might be able to see how they do it.

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3rd Image also has wrong proportion.

I checked a few children's picture book epubs, those are image heavy and not much text so there won't be a problem with layout like light novels.
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it means the 3rd image with right solution would be ok, right ?

what are your sugestions ?
Which height and width schould it have to be ok vor iPad ? max. min. ?

and do you have an iPhone ?
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Probably 300x400 would be good, or 250x400, need to make sure the image aspect ratio is maintained though. But what do you think about moving images to end of each chapter instead ?

Yes, I do have iPhone 4, but I usually carry iPad with me so I rarely read on the phone.

Update notes: I added To Aru Majutsu no Index volume 21-22 & New Testament 1-3 into my MediaFire PDF folder. Earlier volumes I'll make and add them in a few more days.
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I think its better to heve them there where they belong to. Like the author had made it. Because the pictures are acompanying the text and I as a reader would like to see the pictures along with the text.
Some one should try asking arround what the best method is. But first of all are the "wishes" of the translator. They were the ones who translated the text/novel and I think its better to ask them first how they have it in their minds. We should respect their wishes.

That's what i think.
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well you're right on that part about asking the translators what they feel but also remember that we do this PDF, epubs, mobi for ourselves most of the time so you can always go along with what you feel like doing on those files
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carj wrote:well you're right on that part about asking the translators what they feel but also remember that we do this PDF, epubs, mobi for ourselves most of the time so you can always go along with what you feel like doing on those files
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You are right. Still I personaly try to find the middle. Because "I"(most part makes Calibre) make it, change and adjust it. Trying to make it not to fancy(don't know if this word is right) and not to simple.
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And I feel somehow delighted when something doesn't go as it should or there are some wishes that could be made possible. This way I/you can learn much more and be more flexible.

Still I'm used to this kind of thing. Working in the Government, IT-Branch. They have always extra wishes.
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i get exactly what u mean xD and yea the word is right if i didn't misunderstand what you wanted to say
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^^ I think so too.

Still I want to test some things with css so the ePUB would be realy fully portable. The best example ist iBooks like you can see in the upper posts. And its not a realy good way to work with hardcoded atributes like height and width. Exception is if you target a specific hardware. Because iPhone has 960 x 640 Pixel and your N8(I think you wrote it somewhere) has 640 x 360 Pixel. And something like 250x400 picture is not very good to this to things. so i would like to work with >%<.
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i haven't tried the epubs yet cuz i start classes today n ive been going around preparing for the last couple of days

when i get used to my new schedule ill start looking into the epubs again =P since i wanna do the TAMnI ones
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