Talk:Oda Nobuna no Yabou

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==General Discussion==
There was no discussion so I'll start one. How much of the light novel does the anime cover and how much does it differ if any? [[User:All Nighter94|All Night]] ([[User talk:All Nighter94|talk]]) 21:53, 20 March 2013 (CDT)

Not sure, but just wanna say thanks to those translating. Volume 2 really sped up, can't wait until vol. 1 is finished so i can start vol. 2 :) 3/20/13

It looks like the anime follows until the end of volume 3.

:Was it really just 3 volumes? They cut a lot out. -[[User:Magiceraser|Magiceraser]] ([[User talk:Magiceraser|talk]]) 03:07, 21 March 2013 (CDT)

I'm not really sure how much was cut out, until I read the light novel, but the anime did cover the Kyo! Arc if im not mistaken.[[User:All Nighter94|All Night]] ([[User talk:All Nighter94|talk]]) 13:46, 21 March 2013 (CDT)

I just wanna say thank you to all translator and editor who had been working hard to finish the first 2 volumes. Really, thanks.
Btw, is there any possibility that you guys/girls may pick up the rest of the series after volume 3? I'm just curious, don't meant to pester anyone here.. Hope someone will reply.

Hi,
Firstly, I would like to thank all the translators working hard on Oda Nobuna no Yabou.
Well with reference to above discussion I think that the anime covers like first 4 volumes( not fully sure,though. I am like 80% sure.)
So, yeah, picking up at Vol. x(at which ever the anime ends) wold be nice.
I noticed this text: 会合众. Just wondering what it means. In Google trans it says like "meeting crowd"?
Lastly, why not put up placeholders for other volumes on the main page like in other Baka-Tsuki pages.
Oh, and one more thing... awesome translation speed of Vol. 3!! Keep it up! ^_^

Thanks for translating!!! The story is getting to the good part :D! Can't wait for the next few chapters XD! 5/16/13

==Volume 1==
===Translator's Notes and References===
The last couple of days I've been working hard on improving the Translator's Notes and References on volume 1 to help readers understand some of the words, customs or jokes used in the story.

Using the existing notes and a lot of my own research all references now have a small explanation or summary and an external link to more information where available.

I've also added the word or sentence referenced in bold in front of the explanation (to help remind you what is was your where trying to understand).

I was wondering if I could get some feedback on my changes, like incorrect explanations or unnecessary references.
You can read the full list of [[Oda_Nobuna_no_Yabou:Volume1#Translator.27s_Notes_and_References|Volume 1 Notes here]].

--[[User:Ginja04|Ginja04]] ([[User talk:Ginja04|talk]]) 14:40, 27 June 2013 (CDT)

== Volume 3 ==

I just read the first chapter and than I saw that the Forward chapter should be Epilogue "Forward to Epilogue" but that page doesn't exist. since Volume 3 is mark as "(Full Text)" I wonder if the pages in the Epilogue are located or got into another place.
I'd be happy to receive information about this matter.

Someone marked it as "Full Text" before it was finished. The "epilogue" was originally marked as a sub-chapter but then integrated in chapter 1.--[[User:Kemm|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm|talk]]) 15:08, 25 July 2013 (CDT)

== volume 3 chapter 1 ==

the chapter saya its at 70% but the volume has a full text so,is it complete or not?
-- not complete yet -- [[User:Caorom|Caorom]] ([[User talk:Caorom|talk]]) 00:21, 24 August 2013 (CDT)

== is anyone else having trouble following this? ==

the writing style is really throwing me off, it seems to be almost audio based.

you get

"line of dialogue"

"line of dialogue"

"line of dialogue"

*sound effect*

with no indicator of who is actually speaking, or what action caused the sound effect.

frankly its really hard to follow at some points.

does each character have some sort of distinctive speaking style in the original Japanese? something to make it easy to tell who is saying what?

-Iamnuff

Talk:Shakugan no Shana

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'''SUPERVISOR'S NOTE: The reason we are skipping Volumes 3 and 4 is because we need to give Viz the benefit of the doubt and are taking precautionary measures because they still do own the current English license for the series. We will not take any requests to translate any of the blocked off novels. DO NOT ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS, THEY WILL BE DELETED.'''

--[[User:Poke2201|Poke2201]] 03:16, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Licensed ==

http://www.animeondvd.com/blog/?p=138

[[User:Velocity7|velocity7]], Jul 22 2006 23:46 EDT

== Vol. 1-2 ==

CLARIFICATION: Volume 1-2 is availible worldwide in translated form. If you like the series, buy them.
Furthermore: This means that they will not be translated here until they are unavailible on the market or the license is really really really inactive/dropped by the holder.--[[User:Novium|Novium]] 20:57, 21 March 2011 (EDT)

1-2 are already published in English so its a no go (Its a Baka-tsuki rule - no English published/printed/licensed material in the wiki or forum), 3-4 for safetey reasons since they would be next in line. (btw. there was no C&D for SnS - not yet) -- The supervisors

== Vol. 3-4 ==

I understand you, that you didn't translate this (but I didn't believe that Viz will release any more volumes...). Simple question: I think it has story relevant things in this two volumes, why don't make a short summary? --[[Special:Contributions/85.1.134.116|85.1.134.116]] 08:29, 23 September 2011 (CDT)

== did anyone keep/not lose their copy of volume 7 ==

updates claim that it was fully translated, so if anyone still has a downloaded version... could they re-upload it? (assuming that we don't have to start translating it all over again for legal reasons...) --17:32, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

For one with the right wiki rights should it be possible to restore them... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 20:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Good idea, asked Vaelis, hope he can help. If someone else with the proper permissions sees this (sysop or supervisor), Please! --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 20:43, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I can't do it but I've asked thelastguardian and onizuka-gto if they could do it. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 20:52, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

oh: thank you anyway! --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 21:03, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I have the translation, but I don't have the image [[User:LiTTleDRAgo|LiTTleDRAgo]] 01:09, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the site still has images. Also, we don't need/want/can accept volumes 1-4, by decree of onizuka, probably for legal reasons (possibly they were what was covered by original C&D) --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]]
correction: we do not have the images for volume 7. As the deletion log does not mention them being deleted (and they are not in the file list), I doubt that were ever uploaded, especially as the pages themselves don't appear to reference them. Would someone who has the images upload them? if it's not to much trouble:). --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 03:05, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

I can attest to that. Only illustrations for volumes 3-5 were uploaded.

And btw, I still have volume 7 here--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 03:12, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

== Project Revived! ==
I thought I wouldn't see this day come, regardless, cheers to the revival! \(≧ロ≦)/

You can thank many of the translators who are listed below, B-T admins, and just plain fans for that. It spawned an approximate 100 post topic amongst them, and look what happens XD? --[[user:Poke2201|Poke2201]] (20:21)27 February 2011 UTC

Thank you --[[User:Novium|Novium]] 20:57, 21 March 2011 (EDT)

Guys, is anyone still translating? I'd like to help in the editing part :) [[User:AkaSora|AkaSora]] ([[User talk:AkaSora|talk]]) 07:54, 15 September 2012 (CDT)

== Series Overview ==
The series overview section is messed up and I'm too lazy to be the one to fix it. Is there even any point to having the series overview section anyways? --[[User:Jonathanasdf|Jonathanasdf]] 08:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

== the anime of SnS ==

which volumes the anime is based on?

As far as I know 1-14 and some stuff they just thought up. It's mostly accurate, but not entirely. Keep in mind that they ommited quite a bit of stuff. Anyone knows what happens after 14?
/Novium 2011:03:26

than watching the anime isnt a good replacement for the untranslated volumes on baka-tsuki?
because even if they will be translated officially i doubt i would be able to get them...
--[[User:Nemesh|Nemesh]] 08:57, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

Volume 1 is the Friagne's event, Margery Daw isn't in Misaki yet. She arrives later on Volume 2, after the Friagne's death, she fights Shana who is defending the Corps Collector, fails and gets to the Satou's house to rest. Then the Aizen brothers (Sorath & Tiriel) comes to Misaki, pretty much only preparation on Volume 3, the real fight is on Volume 4. The anime follows this events quite good. The Aizens die, and then we got to Volume 5 that is where the traslation starts at. That's all you need to know to understand it.

--[[User:SkyFlames07|SkyFlames07]] 11:33, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

Wow thanks for your explanation. It clear quite a bit of confusion for me. I was wondering why Margery Daw did not appear until volume 3 as the summary somewhat stated. Oh well, I might just have misunderstood the summary writer though.

== Light Novel ==

Why not all chapters in translate? There are many chapters that I want to read, but I can't. Then, Why is it only until volume 10? I really want to read the volume 15 up.. Please translate it, I don't understand how to use ISBN.. About Margery who lose her contract with Marco after she knows the truth behind the silver and after keisaku kiss her, what happen? Please answer --

===Well, here we go...===

1) There are limited translators out there. Not many people are willing to help out and provide the translations for everyone to read.

2) For an exceptionally difficult series like Shana, there will be a high turnover rate where the translators may drop out due to fatigue. (In fact, 99.9% chance)

3) Because of (2), we don't have enough translators to work on this project. Translating one volume of this will be extremely long, even for a B-T project. Consider it lucky if you can get one translated within 6 months.

4) Viz media has already translated volumes 1 and 2, and like what our supervisor mentioned, volumes 3 and 4 are out of bounds so as to play it safe.

5) For this series, I have placed a poll over at the SnS wikia for readers to vote. As of now, volume 16 is the most popular.

6) Volumes 1-14 have been covered by the anime (albeit rather...I don't know.)

7) And even if we get enough work, we'll still be bashed for 'not being good quality' anyway...

8) For the series itself, as of right now, the best thing you can do is to ask for a synopsis. Sorry. (Mind helping out there, SkyFlames07?)--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 16:14, 26 April 2011 (UCT)

===Well...===

@Teh_Ping
I trudely tryed to make a synopsis of volume 1, but you know how my english is. It resulted on some huge amount of text and without an editor to correct my major mistakes there is no way someone could actually understand it. Plus, the only volumes I can trudely help with are Volume 1 and Volume 4. The number 2 is a complete mistery to me. If there is an editor that can help me out then I guess I'll take some time after finishing the V3 traslation to spanish.
[[User:SkyFlames07|SkyFlames07]]

Sorry for the late response. Thank you for you help. As for editors, I'll get people, one way or another, even if it means myself. (Why am I the one in charge of things here out of a sudden?)--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 14:07, 24 May 2011 (UCT)

Alright then. I'm slowly doing the Volume 1 synoypsis, since it got a lot of explanations and terminology, I guess it will be long.

[[User:SkyFlames07|SkyFlames07]] 22:33, 25 May 2011 (UCT)

== Synopsis ==

oh thx... So, could anyone tell me the synopsis from the chapter 21? Please? How to be the translator actually?
How to reply a discussion?

Well...I don't know how to say it, but the anime did cover that pretty okay. Then again, I never read that volume. Can someone help me out here? And sorry for the late response.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 14:07, 24 May 2011 (UCT)

Chapter 21? Don't you mean volume 21? I haven't read it neither, but it's pretty much the battle Sydonay & Yuji vs Shana & Willhelmina. It just ends there.

[[User:SkyFlames07|SkyFlames07]] 02:48, 25 May 2011 (UCT)

== Thanks!! ==

I really thank you to translate Shana, so that I can read it... Thanks!! I don't know what happen if there's no baka-tsuki :)... keep working yeah!! :D

== About the author ==

Do anyone know Takahashi Yashichiro's address? I really want to send him a mail... I'd appreciate if you help.. Thanks

The author doesn't have a homepage or any address, but you can send it to the publisher (Dengeki Bunko). But before that, are you writing in Japanese, Chinese or English? --[[User:Larethian|larethian]] 10:01, 5 September 2011 (CDT)

Japanese/English, maybe both. I wonder, can he understand english? What's the Dengeku Bunko address? Should I add "to Takahashi Yashichiro"?

sorry I did a quick check before, but I can't seem to find it. there is an address for careers though lol. sorry I don't have time to scour the sites of the entire Dengeki franchise. you might want to ask at Animesuki shakugan no shana subforum. someone might know. --[[User:Larethian|larethian]] 09:11, 23 September 2011 (CDT)

== Where are the missing volumes? ==

For example, volume 15 is not on the main page. Why are some volumes not listed here?

They aren't translated yet. When someone starts translating it, it will be listed.

Ah, I see... Thanks.

== Questions ==

Is volume 22 the very last volume for SnS? If so, I feel old.

Volume 22 is the last volume of the series.

qustion

will u guys ever start tranlating this?
i understand volume 1 and 2 but 3 and 4 will not be tranlated!
this project could be huge if its put into english here, i have like 50 friend who also want to read this.

== still ongoing? ==

not really savvy on this wiki thing, but best i can tell the last update was November 15, 2011.

is this project still moving?

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