Horizon:Volume 1B Chapter 22.5 - Revision history

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	''Toori'': Nee-chan! Nee-chan! There are lots of foreigners on Musashi, but what about their religion!? If the Far East can't persecute them <ref>踏み絵(fumi-e) = Allegiance test. Suspected followers of Tsirhc faith were ordered to step on Christian images.</ref> won't there be eroge-like developments in the torture room!?		''Toori'': Nee-chan! Nee-chan! There are lots of foreigners on Musashi, but what about their religion!? If the Far East can't persecute them <ref>踏み絵(fumi-e) = Allegiance test. Suspected followers of Tsirhc faith were ordered to step on Christian images.</ref> won't there be eroge-like developments in the torture room!?

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	~~==Chapter 22.5~~ Study: Religion on Musashi==		Study: Religion on Musashi
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	''Kimi'': ...So you were not looking to understand, but for a gag chance instead?		''Kimi'': ...So you were not looking to understand, but for a gag chance instead?

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	''Toori'': Nee-chan! Nee-chan! There are lots of foreigners on Musashi, but what about their religion!? If the Far East can't persecute them <ref>踏み絵(fumi-e) = Allegiance test. Suspected followers of Tsirhc faith were ordered to step on Christian images.</ref> won't there be eroge-like developments in the torture room!?		''Toori'': Nee-chan! Nee-chan! There are lots of foreigners on Musashi, but what about their religion!? If the Far East can't persecute them <ref>踏み絵(fumi-e) = Allegiance test. Suspected followers of Tsirhc faith were ordered to step on Christian images.</ref> won't there be eroge-like developments in the torture room!?

	''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, this really is bothersome so you'd be better off making a thread about this, but have you heard about the Prohibited Religion Act?		''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, this really is bothersome so you'd be better off making a thread about this; but have you heard about the Prohibited Religion Act?

	''Toori'': Ah, of course I do! The order to teach forbidden matters to people, right!? In song: "Lulululalalala, ABNORMAL IS CRIMINAL, LET'S BOMBER HOO~LI~GAN~~" kind of violating poetry recitation!		''Toori'': Ah, of course I do! The order to teach forbidden matters to people, right!? In song: "Lulululalalala, ABNORMAL IS CRIMINAL, LET'S BOMBER HOO~LI~GAN~~" kind of violating poetry recitation!
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	# Specialization of Worship Places Ban. Scale Restriction		# Specialization of Worship Places Ban. Scale Restriction

	''Kimi'': (1) here is essentially replacing the 'Ignoring Prohibited Religions' aspect here. By introducing tax as a method of handling 'those that are not present', as long as there is no missionary work, the Far East is doing the same thing as forbidding those religions. Now, for a general follower, the tax payment is one Bless per day, or any equivalent, appropriate amount of currency. This is about 3000 Yen for the Far East.		''Kimi'': (1) here is essentially replacing the 'Ignoring Prohibited Religions' aspect here. By introducing tax as a method of handling 'those that are not present', as long as there is no missionary work, the Far East is doing the same thing as forbidding those religions. Now, for a general follower the tax payment is one Bless per day, or any equivalent, appropriate amount of currency. This is about 3000 Yen for the Far East.

	''Toori'': Wait, that is expensive! Isn't that too high? Is this legal?		''Toori'': Wait, that is expensive! Isn't that too high? Is this legal?

	''Kimi'': Well, we're forbidding religions after all.　Still, for newly appointed foreigners in trade and diplomacy, being able to pay this is a display of status, and many would rather pay the tax to retain their lifestyle in the end. That is why Musashi's second left and right ships <ref>Murayama, Tama</ref> have foreigner-centric towns in the lower ~~floor~~, and matters for each country are handled separately. Children are exempt from the tax as well.		''Kimi'': Well, we're forbidding religions after all.　Still, for newly appointed foreigners in trade and diplomacy, being able to pay this is a display of status; and many would rather pay the tax to retain their lifestyle in the end. That is why Musashi's second left and right ships <ref>Murayama, Tama</ref> have foreigner-centric towns in the lower decks, and matters for each country are handled separately. Children are exempt from the tax as well.

	Still, if one wishes to become a follower he/she will undergo a process to become 'hidden', and they will incur the full price of the tax. If you can't pay you'll have to do manual ~~labour~~ <ref>as a function of fumi-e</ref>. People in higher positions will also have to pay more. Now, the Specialization of Worship Places Ban forbids the construction/possession of any building specialized for religious service. Thus sites like churches, congregation halls and Contract Stands can only be founded on corporation and personal spaces, like shops and houses. This is also a recreation of 'hiding', though they still put signs out in reality.		Still, if one wishes to become a follower he/she will undergo a process to become 'hidden', and they will incur the full price of the tax. If you can't pay you'll have to do manual labor <ref>as a function of fumi-e</ref>. People in higher positions will also have to pay more. Now, the Specialization of Worship Places Ban forbids the construction/possession of any building specialized for religious service. Thus sites like churches, congregation halls and Contract Stands can only be founded on corporation and personal spaces, like shops and houses. This is also a recreation of 'hiding', though they still put signs out in reality.

	With this restriction, large-scale movements can be prevented while protecting the religious rights of the people at the same time. Do you understand?		With this restriction, large-scale movements can be prevented while protecting the religious rights of the people at the same time. Do you understand?

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	''Toori'': Nee-chan! Nee-chan! There are lots of foreigners on Musashi, but what about their religion!? If the Far East can't persecute them <ref>踏み絵(fumi-e) = Allegiance test. Suspected followers of ~~Trisch~~ faith were ordered to step on Christian images.</ref> won't there be eroge-like developments in the torture room!?		''Toori'': Nee-chan! Nee-chan! There are lots of foreigners on Musashi, but what about their religion!? If the Far East can't persecute them <ref>踏み絵(fumi-e) = Allegiance test. Suspected followers of Tsirhc faith were ordered to step on Christian images.</ref> won't there be eroge-like developments in the torture room!?

	''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, this really is bothersome so you'd be better off making a thread about this, but have you heard about the Prohibited Religion Act?		''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, this really is bothersome so you'd be better off making a thread about this, but have you heard about the Prohibited Religion Act?
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	''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, the theory and practice of this act differ so be careful not to mix them up. Basically, under the Prohibited Religion Act, the Far East will not accept any religion other than Shinto and Buddhism.		''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, the theory and practice of this act differ so be careful not to mix them up. Basically, under the Prohibited Religion Act, the Far East will not accept any religion other than Shinto and Buddhism.

	''Toori'': Wait, but there are a lot of ~~Tsirch~~ and Mlasi here, no? I remember getting in the way of Valentine and Christmas celebrations from long ago.		''Toori'': Wait, but there are a lot of Tsirhc and Mlasi here, no? I remember getting in the way of Valentine and Christmas celebrations from long ago.

	''Kimi'': Yes, this is where 'Interpretation' comes in. To list:		''Kimi'': Yes, this is where 'Interpretation' comes in. To list:

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	''Toori'': Ah, of course I do! The order to teach forbidden matters to people, right!? In song: "Lulululalalala, ABNORMAL IS CRIMINAL, LET'S BOMBER HOO~LI~GAN~~" kind of violating poetry recitation!		''Toori'': Ah, of course I do! The order to teach forbidden matters to people, right!? In song: "Lulululalalala, ABNORMAL IS CRIMINAL, LET'S BOMBER HOO~LI~GAN~~" kind of violating poetry recitation!

	''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, the theory and practice of this act differ so be careful not to mix them up. Basically, under the Prohibited Religion Act, ~~The~~ Far East will not accept any religion other than Shinto and Buddhism.		''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, the theory and practice of this act differ so be careful not to mix them up. Basically, under the Prohibited Religion Act, the Far East will not accept any religion other than Shinto and Buddhism.

	''Toori'': Wait, but there are a lot of Tsirch and Mlasi here, no? I remember getting in the way of Valentine and Christmas celebrations from long ago.		''Toori'': Wait, but there are a lot of Tsirch and Mlasi here, no? I remember getting in the way of Valentine and Christmas celebrations from long ago.

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	''Toori'': Nee-chan! Nee-chan! There are lots of foreigners on Musashi, but what about their religion!? If the Far East can't persecute them <ref>(~~word here is~~ fumi-e~~, Christian images suspected~~ followers were ordered to step on)</ref> won't there be eroge-like developments in the torture room!?		''Toori'': Nee-chan! Nee-chan! There are lots of foreigners on Musashi, but what about their religion!? If the Far East can't persecute them <ref>踏み絵(fumi-e) = Allegiance test. Suspected followers of Trisch faith were ordered to step on Christian images.</ref> won't there be eroge-like developments in the torture room!?

	''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, this really is bothersome so you'd be better off making a thread about this, but have you heard about the Prohibited Religion Act?		''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, this really is bothersome so you'd be better off making a thread about this, but have you heard about the Prohibited Religion Act?
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	''Kimi'': Well, we're forbidding religions after all.　Still, for newly appointed foreigners in trade and diplomacy, being able to pay this is a display of status, and many would rather pay the tax to retain their lifestyle in the end. That is why Musashi's second left and right ships <ref>Murayama, Tama</ref> have foreigner-centric towns in the lower floor, and matters for each country are handled separately. Children are exempt from the tax as well.		''Kimi'': Well, we're forbidding religions after all.　Still, for newly appointed foreigners in trade and diplomacy, being able to pay this is a display of status, and many would rather pay the tax to retain their lifestyle in the end. That is why Musashi's second left and right ships <ref>Murayama, Tama</ref> have foreigner-centric towns in the lower floor, and matters for each country are handled separately. Children are exempt from the tax as well.

	Still, if one wishes to become a follower he/she will undergo a process to become 'hidden', and they will incur the full price of the tax. If you can't pay you'll have to do manual labour <ref>(as a function of fumi-e)</ref>. People in higher positions will also have to pay more. Now, the Specialization of Worship Places Ban forbids the construction/possession of any building specialized for religious service. Thus sites like churches, congregation halls and Contract Stands can only be founded on corporation and personal spaces, like shops and houses. This is also a recreation of 'hiding', though they still put signs out in reality.		Still, if one wishes to become a follower he/she will undergo a process to become 'hidden', and they will incur the full price of the tax. If you can't pay you'll have to do manual labour <ref>as a function of fumi-e</ref>. People in higher positions will also have to pay more. Now, the Specialization of Worship Places Ban forbids the construction/possession of any building specialized for religious service. Thus sites like churches, congregation halls and Contract Stands can only be founded on corporation and personal spaces, like shops and houses. This is also a recreation of 'hiding', though they still put signs out in reality.

	With this restriction, large-scale movements can be prevented while protecting the religious rights of the people at the same time. Do you understand?		With this restriction, large-scale movements can be prevented while protecting the religious rights of the people at the same time. Do you understand?

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	''Toori'': Wait, that is expensive! Isn't that too high? Is this legal?		''Toori'': Wait, that is expensive! Isn't that too high? Is this legal?

	''Kimi'': Well, we're forbidding religions after all.　Still, for newly appointed foreigners in trade and diplomacy, being able to pay this is a display of status, and many would rather pay the tax to retain their lifestyle in the end. That is why Musashi's second left and right ships (Murayama, Tama) have foreigner-centric towns in the lower floor, and matters for each country are handled separately. Children are exempt from the tax as well.		''Kimi'': Well, we're forbidding religions after all.　Still, for newly appointed foreigners in trade and diplomacy, being able to pay this is a display of status, and many would rather pay the tax to retain their lifestyle in the end. That is why Musashi's second left and right ships <ref>Murayama, Tama</ref> have foreigner-centric towns in the lower floor, and matters for each country are handled separately. Children are exempt from the tax as well.

	Still, if one wishes to become a follower he/she will undergo a process to become 'hidden', and they will incur the full price of the tax. If you can't pay you'll have to do manual labour (as a function of fumi-e). People in higher positions will also have to pay more. Now, the Specialization of Worship Places Ban forbids the construction/possession of any building specialized for religious service. Thus sites like churches, congregation halls and Contract Stands can only be founded on corporation and personal spaces, like shops and houses. This is also a recreation of 'hiding', though they still put signs out in reality.		Still, if one wishes to become a follower he/she will undergo a process to become 'hidden', and they will incur the full price of the tax. If you can't pay you'll have to do manual labour <ref>(as a function of fumi-e)</ref>. People in higher positions will also have to pay more. Now, the Specialization of Worship Places Ban forbids the construction/possession of any building specialized for religious service. Thus sites like churches, congregation halls and Contract Stands can only be founded on corporation and personal spaces, like shops and houses. This is also a recreation of 'hiding', though they still put signs out in reality.

	With this restriction, large-scale movements can be prevented while protecting the religious rights of the people at the same time. Do you understand?		With this restriction, large-scale movements can be prevented while protecting the religious rights of the people at the same time. Do you understand?

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	''Toori'': Nee-chan! Nee-chan! There are lots of foreigners on Musashi, but what about their religion!? If the Far East can't persecute them (word here is fumi-e, Christian images suspected followers were ordered to step on) won't there be eroge-like developments in the torture room!?		''Toori'': Nee-chan! Nee-chan! There are lots of foreigners on Musashi, but what about their religion!? If the Far East can't persecute them <ref>(word here is fumi-e, Christian images suspected followers were ordered to step on)</ref> won't there be eroge-like developments in the torture room!?

	''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, this really is bothersome so you'd be better off making a thread about this, but have you heard about the Prohibited Religion Act?		''Kimi'': Fufufu, idiot brother, this really is bothersome so you'd be better off making a thread about this, but have you heard about the Prohibited Religion Act?
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	''Kimi'': ...So you were not looking to understand, but for a gag chance instead?		''Kimi'': ...So you were not looking to understand, but for a gag chance instead?

			==Translator's notes==
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	''Kimi'': Yes, this is where 'Interpretation' comes in. To list:		''Kimi'': Yes, this is where 'Interpretation' comes in. To list:
	1. Prohibited Religion Tax		# Prohibited Religion Tax
	2. Missionary Activity Ban.		# Missionary Activity Ban
	3. Specialization of Worship Places Ban. Scale Restriction.		# Specialization of Worship Places Ban. Scale Restriction

	(1) here is essentially replacing the 'Ignoring Prohibited Religions' aspect here. By introducing tax as a method of handling 'those that are not present', as long as there is no missionary work, the Far East is doing the same thing as forbidding those religions. Now, for a general follower, the tax payment is one Bless per day, or any equivalent, appropriate amount of currency. This is about 3000 Yen for the Far East.		''Kimi'': (1) here is essentially replacing the 'Ignoring Prohibited Religions' aspect here. By introducing tax as a method of handling 'those that are not present', as long as there is no missionary work, the Far East is doing the same thing as forbidding those religions. Now, for a general follower, the tax payment is one Bless per day, or any equivalent, appropriate amount of currency. This is about 3000 Yen for the Far East.

	''Toori'': Wait, that is expensive! Isn't that too high? Is this legal?		''Toori'': Wait, that is expensive! Isn't that too high? Is this legal?