Talk:Rakuin no Monshou:Volume1 Chapter3 - Revision history

Dohma at 11:24, 30 July 2013

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	These are sentences in chapter 3 that I didn't understand all of their meaning. Thanks, --[[User:Cthaeh\|Cthaeh]] ([[User talk:Cthaeh\|talk]]) 22:31, 27 April 2013 (CDT)		These are sentences in chapter 3 that I didn't understand all of their meaning. Thanks, --[[User:Cthaeh\|Cthaeh]] ([[User talk:Cthaeh\|talk]]) 22:31, 27 April 2013 (CDT)

			Changed Gil's reputation as 'moron' to 'fool', the term keeps popping up during the series, and it seemed better to let him be widely known as the 'foolish prince' instead of the 'moronic prince'. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 06:24, 30 July 2013 (CDT)

Dohma at 14:41, 2 May 2013

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	Rather than something like luck, this is, as you explained so well – the destined golden mean of fate, that’s said to have decided all humans lives from the instant of the universe’s creation, right?		Rather than something like luck, this is, as you explained so well – the destined golden mean of fate, that’s said to have decided all humans lives from the instant of the universe’s creation, right?
	::-not sure what "golden mean of fate" means		::-not sure what "golden mean of fate" means
	::* Not sure either. 運命の黄金率 is a apparently a term Hermann made up, I just directly translated. It's 'mean' as in ratio or percentage. It could also mean 'golden ratio of destiny' or something. What I think it means is that a part of fate (the golden mean) was decided beforehand at the universe's creation. Thus, Orba having survived all these years was not luck, but what the universe intended. I'll add a note to it. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)		::* Not sure either. 運命の黄金率 is a apparently a term Hermann made up, I just directly translated it. It's 'mean' as in ratio or percentage. It could also mean 'golden ratio of destiny' or something. What I think it means is that a part of fate (the golden mean) was decided beforehand at the universe's creation. Thus, Orba having survived all these years was not luck, but what the universe intended. I'll add a note to it. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)

	Before Orba could retort, there were signs of wriggling and touching. It came from none other than Orba himself.		Before Orba could retort, there were signs of wriggling and touching. It came from none other than Orba himself.
	::-"signs of wriggling and touching" seems a little awkward. I can't quite picture it. Maybe that's just me though.		::-"signs of wriggling and touching" seems a little awkward. I can't quite picture it. Maybe that's just me though.
	::* No the sentence confuses me to. Orba feels signs of wriggling and touching (I assume Hermann's fingers). And it (seems to) come from within Orba himself. I've changed it a bit to make it a bit more explanatory, but maybe a proofreader will correct me in the future. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)		::* No, the sentence confuses me too. Orba feels signs of wriggling and touching (I assume Hermann's fingers). And it (seems to) come from within Orba himself. I've changed it a bit to make it a bit more explanatory, but maybe a proofreader will correct me in the future. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)

	doubts on his bloodline could sully the imperial family’s dignity and at most pose a problem in the distant future, which in turn could question Fedom’s duties.		doubts on his bloodline could sully the imperial family’s dignity and at most pose a problem in the distant future, which in turn could question Fedom’s duties.
	::-I feel like "question Fedom's duties" doesn't fit, I interpreted it as meaning either something like "obstruct Fedom's duties" or "reflect poorly on Fedom".		::-I feel like "question Fedom's duties" doesn't fit, I interpreted it as meaning either something like "obstruct Fedom's duties" or "reflect poorly on Fedom".
	::*It's the latter, but the author literally uses the word 'duty' (or responsibility) and 'question', but here 'question' can also mean 'accuse' or 'charge'. Thinking on it now, I guess 'question his loyalty' is a better translation. I've changed it~~, but tell me what you think~~. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)		::*It's the latter, but the author literally uses the word 'duty' (or responsibility) and 'question', but here 'question' can also mean 'accuse' or 'charge'. Thinking on it now, I guess 'question his loyalty' is a better translation. I've changed it. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)

	The people attending the party are from the Garberran and of course the Mephius’ side and have not been informed about your true identity.		The people attending the party are from the Garberran and of course the Mephius’ side and have not been informed about your true identity.

Dohma at 14:39, 2 May 2013

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Cthaeh: fixing my typos

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fixing my typos

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	Although he smacked his shoulder with an ear-to-ear smile, it honestly had a weird taste to it. When he heard with even Gowen having a bitter smile, it immediately turned to a serious look,		Although he smacked his shoulder with an ear-to-ear smile, it honestly had a weird taste to it. When he heard with even Gowen having a bitter smile, it immediately turned to a serious look,
	::-I didn't ~~white~~ understand the first part. Maybe "When he heard that even Gowen had a bitter smile". Also, I had been assuming the person speaking before this line was Tarkas (who also ~~smacking~~ Orba's shoulder with an ear-to-ear smile), so then the 'it immediately turned to a serious look' seems out of place since ~~it seems like~~ it would be referring to Tarkas's smile disappearing, but that doesn't ~~seem right~~.		::-I didn't quite understand the first part. Maybe "When he heard that even Gowen had a bitter smile". Also, I had been assuming the person speaking before this line was Tarkas (who also smacked Orba's shoulder with an ear-to-ear smile), so then the 'it immediately turned to a serious look' seems out of place since it would be referring to Tarkas's smile disappearing, but that doesn't feel like it fits the context.

	Rather than something like luck, this is, as you explained so well – the destined golden mean of fate, that’s said to have decided all humans lives from the instant of the universe’s creation, right?		Rather than something like luck, this is, as you explained so well – the destined golden mean of fate, that’s said to have decided all humans lives from the instant of the universe’s creation, right?
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	The people attending the party are from the Garberran and of course the Mephius’ side and have not been informed about your true identity.		The people attending the party are from the Garberran and of course the Mephius’ side and have not been informed about your true identity.
	::-I little restructuring, possibly something like "The people attending the party are from the Garberan side, and of course those from the Mephius side have not been informed of your true identity either." Though I'm not sure that matches the intending meaning.		::-A little restructuring, possibly something like "The people attending the party are from the Garberan side, and of course those from the Mephius side have not been informed of your true identity either." Though I'm not incredibly fond of my example, and I'm not sure that it matches the intending meaning.

	Right now, Orba couldn’t do anything. This situation of Fedom using him here as the prince’s body double, happened so fast, but someday he’d eventually find a reason to.		Right now, Orba couldn’t do anything. This situation of Fedom using him here as the prince’s body double, happened so fast, but someday he’d eventually find a reason to.

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Although he smacked his shoulder with an ear-to-ear smile, it honestly had a weird taste to it. When he heard with even Gowen having a bitter smile, it immediately turned to a serious look,
::-I didn't white understand the first part. Maybe "When he heard that even Gowen had a bitter smile". Also, I had been assuming the person speaking before this line was Tarkas (who also smacking Orba's shoulder with an ear-to-ear smile), so then the 'it immediately turned to a serious look' seems out of place since it seems like it would be referring to Tarkas's smile disappearing, but that doesn't seem right.

Rather than something like luck, this is, as you explained so well – the destined golden mean of fate, that’s said to have decided all humans lives from the instant of the universe’s creation, right?
::-not sure what "golden mean of fate" means

Before Orba could retort, there were signs of wriggling and touching. It came from none other than Orba himself.
::-"signs of wriggling and touching" seems a little awkward. I can't quite picture it. Maybe that's just me though.

doubts on his bloodline could sully the imperial family’s dignity and at most pose a problem in the distant future, which in turn could question Fedom’s duties.
::-I feel like "question Fedom's duties" doesn't fit, I interpreted it as meaning either something like "obstruct Fedom's duties" or "reflect poorly on Fedom".

The people attending the party are from the Garberran and of course the Mephius’ side and have not been informed about your true identity.
::-I little restructuring, possibly something like "The people attending the party are from the Garberan side, and of course those from the Mephius side have not been informed of your true identity either." Though I'm not sure that matches the intending meaning.

Right now, Orba couldn’t do anything. This situation of Fedom using him here as the prince’s body double, happened so fast, but someday he’d eventually find a reason to.
::-I wasn't sure if this was supposed to be 'find a reason to it.', referring to the reason Fedom is using him as the body double. Or if "find a reason to" is a phrase connected to Orba wanting an opportunity to take action (to get revenge on the nobility).

These are sentences in chapter 3 that I didn't understand all of their meaning. Thanks, --[[User:Cthaeh|Cthaeh]] ([[User talk:Cthaeh|talk]]) 22:31, 27 April 2013 (CDT)

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	Although he smacked his shoulder with an ear-to-ear smile, it honestly had a weird taste to it. When he heard with even Gowen having a bitter smile, it immediately turned to a serious look,		Although he smacked his shoulder with an ear-to-ear smile, it honestly had a weird taste to it. When he heard with even Gowen having a bitter smile, it immediately turned to a serious look,
	::-I didn't quite understand the first part. Maybe "When he heard that even Gowen had a bitter smile". Also, I had been assuming the person speaking before this line was Tarkas (who also smacked Orba's shoulder with an ear-to-ear smile), so then the 'it immediately turned to a serious look' seems out of place since it would be referring to Tarkas's smile disappearing, but that doesn't feel like it fits the context.		::-I didn't quite understand the first part. Maybe "When he heard that even Gowen had a bitter smile". Also, I had been assuming the person speaking before this line was Tarkas (who also smacked Orba's shoulder with an ear-to-ear smile), so then the 'it immediately turned to a serious look' seems out of place since it would be referring to Tarkas's smile disappearing, but that doesn't feel like it fits the context.
			::*It's a rushed translation on my part. The first person is Tarkas. Gowen, who heard the exchange, also gives a bitter smile, but it immediately turns into a serious look. Changed it. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)

	Rather than something like luck, this is, as you explained so well – the destined golden mean of fate, that’s said to have decided all humans lives from the instant of the universe’s creation, right?		Rather than something like luck, this is, as you explained so well – the destined golden mean of fate, that’s said to have decided all humans lives from the instant of the universe’s creation, right?
	::-not sure what "golden mean of fate" means		::-not sure what "golden mean of fate" means
			::* Not sure either. 運命の黄金率 is a apparently a term Hermann made up, I just directly translated. It's 'mean' as in ratio or percentage. It could also mean 'golden ratio of destiny' or something. What I think it means is that a part of fate (the golden mean) was decided beforehand at the universe's creation. Thus, Orba having survived all these years was not luck, but what the universe intended. I'll add a note to it. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)

	Before Orba could retort, there were signs of wriggling and touching. It came from none other than Orba himself.		Before Orba could retort, there were signs of wriggling and touching. It came from none other than Orba himself.
	::-"signs of wriggling and touching" seems a little awkward. I can't quite picture it. Maybe that's just me though.		::-"signs of wriggling and touching" seems a little awkward. I can't quite picture it. Maybe that's just me though.
			::* No the sentence confuses me to. Orba feels signs of wriggling and touching (I assume Hermann's fingers). And it (seems to) come from within Orba himself. I've changed it a bit to make it a bit more explanatory, but maybe a proofreader will correct me in the future. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)

	doubts on his bloodline could sully the imperial family’s dignity and at most pose a problem in the distant future, which in turn could question Fedom’s duties.		doubts on his bloodline could sully the imperial family’s dignity and at most pose a problem in the distant future, which in turn could question Fedom’s duties.
	::-I feel like "question Fedom's duties" doesn't fit, I interpreted it as meaning either something like "obstruct Fedom's duties" or "reflect poorly on Fedom".		::-I feel like "question Fedom's duties" doesn't fit, I interpreted it as meaning either something like "obstruct Fedom's duties" or "reflect poorly on Fedom".
			::*It's the latter, but the author literally uses the word 'duty' (or responsibility) and 'question', but here 'question' can also mean 'accuse' or 'charge'. Thinking on it now, I guess 'question his loyalty' is a better translation. I've changed it, but tell me what you think. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)

	The people attending the party are from the Garberran and of course the Mephius’ side and have not been informed about your true identity.		The people attending the party are from the Garberran and of course the Mephius’ side and have not been informed about your true identity.
	::-A little restructuring, possibly something like "The people attending the party are from the Garberan side, and of course those from the Mephius side have not been informed of your true identity either." Though I'm not incredibly fond of my example, and I'm not sure that it matches the intending meaning.		::-A little restructuring, possibly something like "The people attending the party are from the Garberan side, and of course those from the Mephius side have not been informed of your true identity either." Though I'm not incredibly fond of my example, and I'm not sure that it matches the intending meaning.
			::* I made a mistake. It means to say that 'of course' the Garberan side hasn't been informed, but neither have the people from Mephius. I've changed the sentence into: "Naturally, the people attending the party from the Garberan side, but even those from Mephius’ side, have not been informed about your true identity." --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)

	Right now, Orba couldn’t do anything. This situation of Fedom using him here as the prince’s body double, happened so fast, but someday he’d eventually find a reason to.		Right now, Orba couldn’t do anything. This situation of Fedom using him here as the prince’s body double, happened so fast, but someday he’d eventually find a reason to.
	::-I wasn't sure if this was supposed to be 'find a reason to it.', referring to the reason Fedom is using him as the body double. Or if "find a reason to" is a phrase connected to Orba wanting an opportunity to take action (to get revenge on the nobility).		::-I wasn't sure if this was supposed to be 'find a reason to it.', referring to the reason Fedom is using him as the body double. Or if "find a reason to" is a phrase connected to Orba wanting an opportunity to take action (to get revenge on the nobility).
			::*From the context I can only assume it's the latter, but I find 理由 'reason' a strange word here. It can also mean something like 'motive' or 'excuse', but 'opportunity' best fits the context here, so I'll use that. --[[User:Dohma\|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma\|talk]]) 09:39, 2 May 2013 (CDT)


	These are sentences in chapter 3 that I didn't understand all of their meaning. Thanks, --[[User:Cthaeh\|Cthaeh]] ([[User talk:Cthaeh\|talk]]) 22:31, 27 April 2013 (CDT)		These are sentences in chapter 3 that I didn't understand all of their meaning. Thanks, --[[User:Cthaeh\|Cthaeh]] ([[User talk:Cthaeh\|talk]]) 22:31, 27 April 2013 (CDT)