Talk:Spice & Wolf:Volume1 Chapter 01 - Revision history

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2009-06-19T08:16:52Z

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Quethiril: Opened new discussion for some changes I made.

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Opened new discussion for some changes I made.

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			= Chapter 1, Pages 63-69 =

			I made some translation changes to the last section of the chapter. (The page reference is to the Japanese version.) As explained [http://www.baka-tsuki.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=2505 here], I am a n00b, so I did not follow proper procedures, but I am trying to rectify that after the fact. So please take a look at [http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Spice_%26_Wolf:Chapter_01&diff=prev&oldid=39747 my changes], and I guess let me know if they are acceptable? - [[User:Quethiril\|Quethiril]] 12:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Seaghyn16 at 06:30, 19 July 2008

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	UPDATE: Just finished putting up an "edited" revision for Chapter 01. Still, I only have 45% to work with, so I'm going to need someone else to continue translating =). But Alephnull has done an awesome job so far. I really just took out the notes, reviewed and put in a few minor changes. I'm mainly just putting it up on the front page.I don't want to put up page 30 yet either as I want 29 translated so I can edit them in sequence. So for all intents and purposes, this is 45% COMPLETE.

	~~--[[User:Seaghyn16\|Krikit]] 00:56, 2 July 2008 (PDT)~~

	The pages posted here are a draft. I'm still learning Japanese and don't have much experience translating, would greatly appreciate it if more skilled people could review my work. In particular, there are many questions I have, both about the text as well as about Japanese in general, I'm hoping they could be answered here as well. Please feel free to discuss any part of the translation by inserting comments immediately below the relevant line, or at the bottom of each section. All comments, from broad stylistic suggestions down to nitpicks are welcome. I don't know whether such a discussion is manageable within the space of one wiki page, let's try this for a few days and see how it goes. Pages will be moved to the main article once they get sufficient review. Let's focus discussion on the first few pages so that they can be moved in sequence.		The pages posted here are a draft. I'm still learning Japanese and don't have much experience translating, would greatly appreciate it if more skilled people could review my work. In particular, there are many questions I have, both about the text as well as about Japanese in general, I'm hoping they could be answered here as well. Please feel free to discuss any part of the translation by inserting comments immediately below the relevant line, or at the bottom of each section. All comments, from broad stylistic suggestions down to nitpicks are welcome. I don't know whether such a discussion is manageable within the space of one wiki page, let's try this for a few days and see how it goes. Pages will be moved to the main article once they get sufficient review. Let's focus discussion on the first few pages so that they can be moved in sequence.

Seaghyn16 at 07:56, 2 July 2008

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	UPDATE: Just finished putting up an "edited" revision for Chapter 01. Still, I only have 45% to work with, so I'm going to need someone else to continue translating =). But Alephnull has done an awesome job so far. I really just took out the notes, reviewed and put in a few minor changes. I'm mainly just putting it up on the ~~fron~~ page. --[[User:Seaghyn16\|Krikit]] 20:57, 1 July 2008 (PDT)		UPDATE: Just finished putting up an "edited" revision for Chapter 01. Still, I only have 45% to work with, so I'm going to need someone else to continue translating =). But Alephnull has done an awesome job so far. I really just took out the notes, reviewed and put in a few minor changes. I'm mainly just putting it up on the front page.I don't want to put up page 30 yet either as I want 29 translated so I can edit them in sequence. So for all intents and purposes, this is 45% COMPLETE.

			--[[User:Seaghyn16\|Krikit]] 00:56, 2 July 2008 (PDT)

	The pages posted here are a draft. I'm still learning Japanese and don't have much experience translating, would greatly appreciate it if more skilled people could review my work. In particular, there are many questions I have, both about the text as well as about Japanese in general, I'm hoping they could be answered here as well. Please feel free to discuss any part of the translation by inserting comments immediately below the relevant line, or at the bottom of each section. All comments, from broad stylistic suggestions down to nitpicks are welcome. I don't know whether such a discussion is manageable within the space of one wiki page, let's try this for a few days and see how it goes. Pages will be moved to the main article once they get sufficient review. Let's focus discussion on the first few pages so that they can be moved in sequence.		The pages posted here are a draft. I'm still learning Japanese and don't have much experience translating, would greatly appreciate it if more skilled people could review my work. In particular, there are many questions I have, both about the text as well as about Japanese in general, I'm hoping they could be answered here as well. Please feel free to discuss any part of the translation by inserting comments immediately below the relevant line, or at the bottom of each section. All comments, from broad stylistic suggestions down to nitpicks are welcome. I don't know whether such a discussion is manageable within the space of one wiki page, let's try this for a few days and see how it goes. Pages will be moved to the main article once they get sufficient review. Let's focus discussion on the first few pages so that they can be moved in sequence.

Seaghyn16: UPDATE!

2008-07-02T03:57:40Z

UPDATE!

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			UPDATE: Just finished putting up an "edited" revision for Chapter 01. Still, I only have 45% to work with, so I'm going to need someone else to continue translating =). But Alephnull has done an awesome job so far. I really just took out the notes, reviewed and put in a few minor changes. I'm mainly just putting it up on the fron page. --[[User:Seaghyn16\|Krikit]] 20:57, 1 July 2008 (PDT)

	The pages posted here are a draft. I'm still learning Japanese and don't have much experience translating, would greatly appreciate it if more skilled people could review my work. In particular, there are many questions I have, both about the text as well as about Japanese in general, I'm hoping they could be answered here as well. Please feel free to discuss any part of the translation by inserting comments immediately below the relevant line, or at the bottom of each section. All comments, from broad stylistic suggestions down to nitpicks are welcome. I don't know whether such a discussion is manageable within the space of one wiki page, let's try this for a few days and see how it goes. Pages will be moved to the main article once they get sufficient review. Let's focus discussion on the first few pages so that they can be moved in sequence.		The pages posted here are a draft. I'm still learning Japanese and don't have much experience translating, would greatly appreciate it if more skilled people could review my work. In particular, there are many questions I have, both about the text as well as about Japanese in general, I'm hoping they could be answered here as well. Please feel free to discuss any part of the translation by inserting comments immediately below the relevant line, or at the bottom of each section. All comments, from broad stylistic suggestions down to nitpicks are welcome. I don't know whether such a discussion is manageable within the space of one wiki page, let's try this for a few days and see how it goes. Pages will be moved to the main article once they get sufficient review. Let's focus discussion on the first few pages so that they can be moved in sequence.

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2008-03-28T02:45:32Z

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	By the time Lawrence arrived at the wide wheat fields, the western sky was already a shade of gold more brilliant [ lit: beautiful ] than the wheat. Tiny bird shadows will soon be hurrying home, and the croaking of pollywogs everywhere announce their imminent slumber. [ Does 'pollywog' refer to only tadpoles, or can it refer to frogs in general as well? ]		By the time Lawrence arrived at the wide wheat fields, the western sky was already a shade of gold more brilliant [ lit: beautiful ] than the wheat. Tiny bird shadows will soon be hurrying home, and the croaking of pollywogs everywhere announce their imminent slumber. [ Does 'pollywog' refer to only tadpoles, or can it refer to frogs in general as well? ]
			速くで鳥が小さな影となって家路を急ぎ shouldn't this be "Birds (quickly) hurrying home become small shadows"
	== Discussion ==		== Discussion ==

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	それに、最近教会は異端審問｛いたんしんもん｝や異教徒の改宗に躍起｛やっき｝になっているし、最近は都市部での神学者と自然学者の言い争いも珍｛めずら｝しくない。昔のようにすべての民衆が無条件に教会にひれ伏すということがなくなってきている。		それに、最近教会は異端審問｛いたんしんもん｝や異教徒の改宗に躍起｛やっき｝になっているし、最近は都市部での神学者と自然学者の言い争いも珍｛めずら｝しくない。昔のようにすべての民衆が無条件に教会にひれ伏すということがなくなってきている。

	Moreover, with the church recently going all out with things like inquisitions and converting pagans, arguments between the theologians and naturalists (?) [ meaning of 自然学者? ] in the cities are no longer uncommon. Things are becoming different from the past, when the entire populace would unquestioningly prostrate themselves before the church. (?) [ meaning of なくなってきている? ]		Moreover, with the church recently going all out with things like inquisitions and converting pagans, arguments between the theologians and naturalists (?) [ meaning of 自然学者? ] in the cities are no longer uncommon. Things are becoming different from the past, when the entire populace would unquestioningly prostrate themselves before the church. (?) [ meaning of なくなってきている? ] <--- beginning to disappear

	教会の絶対的であった威厳がほころび始めているのだ。それは町に住む者達ならば口に出せずともうすうす思っていることだろう。実際、教皇｛きょうこう｝は教会税が思ったより入らずに、大神殿の修復費をいくつかの国の王に申し入れたという。十年前ならば信じられない話だった。		教会の絶対的であった威厳がほころび始めているのだ。それは町に住む者達ならば口に出せずともうすうす思っていることだろう。実際、教皇｛きょうこう｝は教会税が思ったより入らずに、大神殿の修復費をいくつかの国の王に申し入れたという。十年前ならば信じられない話だった。

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	ただ、ちょっとこの辺の祭りは他｛ほか｝のところよりも特殊だったり盛大だったりするので、修道院の連中が目をつけて都市部の教会に報告したのだろう。長いこと本格的に教会の手の入らなかったところだから、教会も余計に神経を尖｛とが｝らせているのかもしれない。		ただ、ちょっとこの辺の祭りは他｛ほか｝のところよりも特殊だったり盛大だったりするので、修道院の連中が目をつけて都市部の教会に報告したのだろう。長いこと本格的に教会の手の入らなかったところだから、教会も余計に神経を尖｛とが｝らせているのかもしれない。

	However, the festivals around these parts were somewhat unique from the others, being grander. The monastery monks probably kept an eye on this and reported back to the city church. (?) [ alt: "central church" or "main church"? ] Normally, the hands of the church wouldn't reach into such business far away (?) [ meaning of 長いこと? ], perhaps they were being overly sensitive here. (?)		However, the festivals around these parts were somewhat unique from the others, being grander. The monastery monks probably kept an eye on this and reported back to the city church. (?) [ alt: "central church" or "main church"? ] Normally, the hands of the church wouldn't reach into such business far away (?) [ meaning of 長いこと? ], perhaps they were being overly sensitive here. (?) [長いこと本格的に probably means traditionally]

	それに、最近教会は異端審問｛いたんしんもん｝や異教徒の改宗に躍起｛やっき｝になっているし、最近は都市部での神学者と自然学者の言い争いも珍｛めずら｝しくない。昔のようにすべての民衆が無条件に教会にひれ伏すということがなくなってきている。		それに、最近教会は異端審問｛いたんしんもん｝や異教徒の改宗に躍起｛やっき｝になっているし、最近は都市部での神学者と自然学者の言い争いも珍｛めずら｝しくない。昔のようにすべての民衆が無条件に教会にひれ伏すということがなくなってきている。

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	"There's news that (?) around these parts, a pagan festival is about to start. That's why I've been entrusted [ or charged? ] with the task of policing here."		"There's news that (?) around these parts, a pagan festival is about to start. That's why I've been entrusted [ or charged? ] with the task of policing here."
			Do you know anything about it?
	== Discussion ==		== Discussion ==

Barbsicle: /* Chinese version */

2008-03-22T05:30:18Z

Chinese version

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 He had met with chances close enough to achieve that. But all these had been snatched away from him by those big time merchants.
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