Talk:Suzumiya Haruhi:Volume9 Prologue - Revision history

201.195.159.166 at 17:34, 17 December 2008

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	[[User:Pxstg\|Pxstg]] 08:18, 1 June 2007 (PDT)		[[User:Pxstg\|Pxstg]] 08:18, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

			==SOS Brigade==

			I am not a translator and I know that the translation is not literal in order to keep the abbreviation working, but wasn't it usually translated as the "'''S'''ave the world by '''O'''verloading it with fun, '''S'''uzumiya Haruhi Brigade" instead of "'''S'''preading Excitement All '''O'''ver the World with '''S'''uzumiya Haruhi's Brigade" ?

			-- Anonymous 17 December 2008

71.58.80.202: Sorry! Undoing my edit. :p

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Sorry! Undoing my edit. :p

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	~~== Translator's Notes ==~~

	~~=== Honorifics ===~~

	~~High-ranking students, like the council president, use the honorific "-kun" to demonstrate politeness. However, in the case of Haruhi, the president is using it in a sarcastic, berating way.~~

	~~== Translator's and Editor's discussion ==~~

	==Opening==		==Opening==

71.58.80.202 at 16:45, 13 June 2007

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			== Translator's Notes ==

			=== Honorifics ===

			High-ranking students, like the council president, use the honorific "-kun" to demonstrate politeness. However, in the case of Haruhi, the president is using it in a sarcastic, berating way.

			== Translator's and Editor's discussion ==

	==Opening==		==Opening==

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	--[[User:Akiha\|Akiha]] 13:58, 30 May 2007 (PDT)		--[[User:Akiha\|Akiha]] 13:58, 30 May 2007 (PDT)

			Okay, so how does this sound for a possible rephrasal:
			;Suggested Change: Due to the school district assignments I ended up in North High and met Suzumiya Haruhi, the walking enigma.
			Since the Japanese doesn't mention anything about his grades I didn't think it was necessary to include it. I think "walking enigma" is a bit more understandable English than "unknown moving object". The meaning is slightly different, as this translation indicates that Haruhi is a "moving unknown" rather than saying anything about her being an "object". However, I think the intention of the phrase is made more clear and less awkward this way. If some one fluent in Japanese could give their approval I'd appreciate it.

			[[User:Pxstg\|Pxstg]] 08:18, 1 June 2007 (PDT)

Akiha: /* Unknown moving object */

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	--[[User:Pxstg\|Pxstg]] 1:40, 25 May 2007 (EST)		--[[User:Pxstg\|Pxstg]] 1:40, 25 May 2007 (EST)

			;The corresponding japanese: 俺がこの高校に入学したのは学区割りという制度の仕業だが、そこから涼宮ハルヒという未確認移動物体と出会っちまった

			Halfway yes. He entered North High, because of "学区割り(gakku wari:school district assignment)" and his grade. Japanese middle school students may enter a high school near which they live. They can choose which school to enter from schools in the school district they live in. And they usually cannot enter a school in other school district. This way, Japanese education system prevents centralization of students to urban schools and thus commercialization of schools. So, he chose a school from his school district which suits himself in terms of his grade. Of course, it was North High school.

			"Unknown moving object" is literally translated from "未確認移動物体". And it refers to Haruhi. This way, Kyon indicates '''Haruhi is Haruhi, not anyone else''', who behaves as she like. You know, the behavior is outrageous, ridiculous and mysterious. So it doesn't make sense for most of people, not forgetting Kyon, as it is much like ''unknown'' moving objects. The Japanese expression has humorous and a bit sarcastic feeling, but isn't a pun.

			While considering this, please rephrase the translation!

			--[[User:Akiha\|Akiha]] 13:58, 30 May 2007 (PDT)

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	First of all, are results referring to his grades or something? I don't think that it is very clear in the english as it stands. Second, I'm not sure what "unknown moving object" refers to. Is that like a Japanese trans-literal equivalent of a UFO (unknown flying object)? I could understand it as a pun, but it seems sort of awkward.		First of all, are results referring to his grades or something? I don't think that it is very clear in the english as it stands. Second, I'm not sure what "unknown moving object" refers to. Is that like a Japanese trans-literal equivalent of a UFO (unknown flying object)? I could understand it as a pun, but it seems sort of awkward.

			--[[User:Pxstg\|Pxstg]] 1:40, 25 May 2007 (EST)

Pxstg: Unknown moving object

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	:The discrepancy is probably from the Chinese version of the text. Part of me wants to keep that description, part of me wants to make it match the original Japanese... what to do? [[User:Smidge204\|Smidge204]] 02:59, 19 May 2007 (PDT)		:The discrepancy is probably from the Chinese version of the text. Part of me wants to keep that description, part of me wants to make it match the original Japanese... what to do? [[User:Smidge204\|Smidge204]] 02:59, 19 May 2007 (PDT)

			== Unknown moving object ==

			When Kyon is talking about coming to north high last year in the beginning of the prologue, he says:
			"I ended up in North High due to my results, and met Suzumiya Haruhi, the unknown moving object."

			First of all, are results referring to his grades or something? I don't think that it is very clear in the english as it stands. Second, I'm not sure what "unknown moving object" refers to. Is that like a Japanese trans-literal equivalent of a UFO (unknown flying object)? I could understand it as a pun, but it seems sort of awkward.

Ids: (just making my sig into -- like seems the standard here!)

2007-05-21T01:48:15Z

(just making my ~~~~ sig into --~~~~ like seems the standard here!)

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	--[[User:Deskoh91\|Deskoh91]] 05:58, 17 May 2007 (PDT)		--[[User:Deskoh91\|Deskoh91]] 05:58, 17 May 2007 (PDT)

	One awkward phrase left - "Sasaki, slightly shooked head" - which of course could be corrected to "Sasaki slightly shook head" but would still be awkward - I've changed this to "Sasaki gave a slight shake of the head" which achieves both smoothness and gender-neutraility. "gave a shake of the head" ("slight" or otherwise) is a canned phrase in which "the head" seems natural to a reader (whereas "Sasaki shook the head" would be horrible, and a giveaway that something is being hidden!). I hope this is a solution to the problem of English awkwardness here! [[User:Ids\|Ids]] 18:40, 20 May 2007 (PDT)		One awkward phrase left - "Sasaki, slightly shooked head" - which of course could be corrected to "Sasaki slightly shook head" but would still be awkward - I've changed this to "Sasaki gave a slight shake of the head" which achieves both smoothness and gender-neutraility. "gave a shake of the head" ("slight" or otherwise) is a canned phrase in which "the head" seems natural to a reader (whereas "Sasaki shook the head" would be horrible, and a giveaway that something is being hidden!). I hope this is a solution to the problem of English awkwardness here! --[[User:Ids\|Ids]] 18:48, 20 May 2007 (PDT)
	== Nonsense sentence ==		== Nonsense sentence ==

Ids: ->Sasaki gender neutral edits: at last a solution to the problem of English awkwardness!

2007-05-21T01:40:39Z

->Sasaki gender neutral edits: at last a solution to the problem of English awkwardness!

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	--[[User:Deskoh91\|Deskoh91]] 05:58, 17 May 2007 (PDT)		--[[User:Deskoh91\|Deskoh91]] 05:58, 17 May 2007 (PDT)

			One awkward phrase left - "Sasaki, slightly shooked head" - which of course could be corrected to "Sasaki slightly shook head" but would still be awkward - I've changed this to "Sasaki gave a slight shake of the head" which achieves both smoothness and gender-neutraility. "gave a shake of the head" ("slight" or otherwise) is a canned phrase in which "the head" seems natural to a reader (whereas "Sasaki shook the head" would be horrible, and a giveaway that something is being hidden!). I hope this is a solution to the problem of English awkwardness here! [[User:Ids\|Ids]] 18:40, 20 May 2007 (PDT)
	== Nonsense sentence ==		== Nonsense sentence ==

128.194.78.55: /* "Those two" */

2007-05-20T03:26:33Z

"Those two"

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	--[[User:Akiha\|Akiha]] 00:15, 18 May 2007 (PDT)		--[[User:Akiha\|Akiha]] 00:15, 18 May 2007 (PDT)

	My bad, the originally translation seemed to indicate otherwise. Thanks for ~~ther~~ verifycation.--[[User:128.194.78.55\|128.194.78.55]] 20:24, 19 May 2007 (PDT)		My bad, the originally translation seemed to indicate otherwise. Thanks for the verifycation.--[[User:128.194.78.55\|128.194.78.55]] 20:24, 19 May 2007 (PDT)

	== Sasaki gender neutral edits ==		== Sasaki gender neutral edits ==

Talk:Suzumiya Haruhi:Volume9 Prologue - Revision history

201.195.159.166 at 17:34, 17 December 2008

71.58.80.202: Sorry! Undoing my edit. :p

71.58.80.202 at 16:45, 13 June 2007

Pxstg: /* Unknown moving object */

Akiha: /* Unknown moving object */

Pxstg: /* Unknown moving object */

Pxstg: Unknown moving object

Ids: (just making my ~~~~ sig into --~~~~ like seems the standard here!)

Ids: ->Sasaki gender neutral edits: at last a solution to the problem of English awkwardness!

128.194.78.55: /* "Those two" */

Ids: (just making my sig into -- like seems the standard here!)