Talk:Umineko Volume 1: Tips - Revision history

Theacefrehley at 15:50, 22 March 2008

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	I read that too. I opted for "follow downstream", hope that fits. And just out of curiosity, what's your mother tongue? Your english is very good, and you certainly translate faster than me ^^;--[[User:Tobiast88\|Tobiast88]] 05:56, 22 March 2008 (PDT)		I read that too. I opted for "follow downstream", hope that fits. And just out of curiosity, what's your mother tongue? Your english is very good, and you certainly translate faster than me ^^;--[[User:Tobiast88\|Tobiast88]] 05:56, 22 March 2008 (PDT)


			Ace: Well. that sounds nice for me.
			For the poem/riddle, I think we should stick to the literality as much as possible, since the solution might be there, in the nuances of the kanjis, even though I feel that little by little, the upcoming episodes will kind of blow away some of our attempts.

			My mother tongue is Portuguese (Brazilian portuguese). And I don't think my english is good at all :(
			Since I learned both english and japanese by myself through free on-line lessons heiauhei (god bless teacher google)

Tobiast88 at 13:02, 22 March 2008

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	その里にて二人が口にし岸を探れ= the two people here would be, guess who, Rosa and Maria.		その里にて二人が口にし岸を探れ= the two people here would be, guess who, Rosa and Maria.

	I read that too. I opted for "follow downstream", hope that fits.--[[User:Tobiast88\|Tobiast88]] 05:56, 22 March 2008 (PDT)		I read that too. I opted for "follow downstream", hope that fits. And just out of curiosity, what's your mother tongue? Your english is very good, and you certainly translate faster than me ^^;--[[User:Tobiast88\|Tobiast88]] 05:56, 22 March 2008 (PDT)

Tobiast88 at 12:56, 22 March 2008

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	I already changed it, but you ca always change it back.		I already changed it, but you ca always change it back.

	Hmm. I'd like to hear the theories, because it's a bit awkward in english... It's true that 下りて gave me a headache, because to "go down" a river is just not classy, but "follow" doesn't convey the exact same meaning. "Follow down" is a bit awkward, so hearing the theories might help me formulate something else. And if anyone else has a proposition, please post it!		Hmm. I'd like to hear the theories, because it's a bit awkward in english... It's true that 下りて gave me a headache, because to "go down" a river is just not classy, but "follow" doesn't convey the exact same meaning. "Follow down" is a bit awkward, so hearing the theories might help me formulate something else. And if anyone else has a proposition, please post it!--[[User:Tobiast88\|Tobiast88]] 05:56, 22 March 2008 (PDT)


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	下りて = go (down) towards the younger branches of the family (Rosa's family)		下りて = go (down) towards the younger branches of the family (Rosa's family)
	その里にて二人が口にし岸を探れ= the two people here would be, guess who, Rosa and Maria.		その里にて二人が口にし岸を探れ= the two people here would be, guess who, Rosa and Maria.

			I read that too. I opted for "follow downstream", hope that fits.--[[User:Tobiast88\|Tobiast88]] 05:56, 22 March 2008 (PDT)

Theacefrehley: theory

2008-03-22T10:02:03Z

theory

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	Hmm. I'd like to hear the theories, because it's a bit awkward in english... It's true that 下りて gave me a headache, because to "go down" a river is just not classy, but "follow" doesn't convey the exact same meaning. "Follow down" is a bit awkward, so hearing the theories might help me formulate something else. And if anyone else has a proposition, please post it!		Hmm. I'd like to hear the theories, because it's a bit awkward in english... It's true that 下りて gave me a headache, because to "go down" a river is just not classy, but "follow" doesn't convey the exact same meaning. "Follow down" is a bit awkward, so hearing the theories might help me formulate something else. And if anyone else has a proposition, please post it!




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			Ace here

			The theory was posted back when ep.1 came out. At the time I didn't gave much attention, but after reading ep.2 I seriously had to consider it.

			The theory is simple
			River = family
			下りて = go (down) towards the younger branches of the family (Rosa's family)
			その里にて二人が口にし岸を探れ= the two people here would be, guess who, Rosa and Maria.

Tobiast88 at 21:45, 21 March 2008

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	I already changed it, but you ca always change it back.		I already changed it, but you ca always change it back.

			Hmm. I'd like to hear the theories, because it's a bit awkward in english... It's true that 下りて gave me a headache, because to "go down" a river is just not classy, but "follow" doesn't convey the exact same meaning. "Follow down" is a bit awkward, so hearing the theories might help me formulate something else. And if anyone else has a proposition, please post it!

Theacefrehley: suggestion

2008-03-20T12:15:07Z

suggestion

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	Actually, hearing that, I'd have to agree. I'll change it if you want.--[[User:Tobiast88\|Tobiast88]] 08:27, 16 March 2008 (PDT)		Actually, hearing that, I'd have to agree. I'll change it if you want.--[[User:Tobiast88\|Tobiast88]] 08:27, 16 March 2008 (PDT)


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			Hello, Ace here

			Forgive me my poor english but I liked how you guys corrected my mess.

			But I'd like to suggest a little modification on this line

			黄金郷を目指す者よ、これを下りて鍵を探せ。
			You who seek the Golden Land, follow its path and seek the key.

			I changed it to: You who seek the Golden Land, follow down its path and seek the key.

			I don't know if 'follow down' sounds natural in english

			However, after reading some theories around the internet, I REALLY think we should include the 'down' idea contained in the kanji 下 of'下りて'

			What do you think?

			I already changed it, but you ca always change it back.

Tobiast88 at 15:27, 16 March 2008

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	I guess it is a matter of preference, but I believe "''Servant X''" form flows better than "''X, the servant''". What do you think, everyone? [[User:Klashikari\|Klashikari]] 09:51, 15 March 2008 (PDT)		I guess it is a matter of preference, but I believe "''Servant X''" form flows better than "''X, the servant''". What do you think, everyone? [[User:Klashikari\|Klashikari]] 09:51, 15 March 2008 (PDT)

			Actually, hearing that, I'd have to agree. I'll change it if you want.--[[User:Tobiast88\|Tobiast88]] 08:27, 16 March 2008 (PDT)

Klashikari: question on "X The servant VS Servant X"

2008-03-15T16:51:25Z

question on "X The servant VS Servant X"

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			==X The servant VS Servant X==
			I'm actually wondering whichever of the 2 form (for example: ''Servant Genji'', or ''Genji, the servant'') is the best way.
			In my opinion, I feel that "''Servant X''" flows better as the status (very important in the context) has some emphasis as the first word. This has a stark contrast with the family members who all have "''Ushiromiya''" as a starter, while the rest are either "''Servant''" or "''Physician''". This format gives some "social status" difference in a subtle way.

			The other point is also the fact that "'''''the''' servant''" behind has a weird effect (well on me in fact), as reading the name means almost like reading "there is only one servant", so reading several time differences servants descriptions leaves a strange feeling behind that.

			I guess it is a matter of preference, but I believe "''Servant X''" form flows better than "''X, the servant''". What do you think, everyone? [[User:Klashikari\|Klashikari]] 09:51, 15 March 2008 (PDT)

Tobiast88 at 16:00, 12 March 2008

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