User talk:Dammitt - Revision history

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=User_talk%3ADammitt User talk:Dammitt - Revision history 2026-05-07T07:19:25Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.43.1 http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dammitt&diff=338087&oldid=prev Jn19930: /* DanMachi */ 2014-03-14T06:19:17Z

<p><span class="autocomment">DanMachi</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:19, 14 March 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l80">Line 80:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 80:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Dexterity is the ability to make good judgments and quick decisions, typically in a particular domain while agility is the gracefulness of a person or animal that is quick and nimble.Wisdom is based on the ability of deduction while inteligent is based on memorization of texts,events etc.Also I would go with Dammit suggestion since it makes sense more or less.--[[User:Mytsy|Mytsy]] ([[User talk:Mytsy|talk]]) 18:33, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Dexterity is the ability to make good judgments and quick decisions, typically in a particular domain while agility is the gracefulness of a person or animal that is quick and nimble.Wisdom is based on the ability of deduction while inteligent is based on memorization of texts,events etc.Also I would go with Dammit suggestion since it makes sense more or less.--[[User:Mytsy|Mytsy]] ([[User talk:Mytsy|talk]]) 18:33, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">: First off, I'm not disagreeing with dammitt, I can see his point. I'm just saying that it can be somewhat ambiguous without actually searching up the definitions. Especially with 敏捷, which could be Dexterity or Agility. Since the forums people pretty much agreed with using Dexterity and Agility, I'll leave it as that and add it to the terminology page, just so people won't get mixed up.[[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 01:19, 14 March 2014 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Jn19930 http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dammitt&diff=338067&oldid=prev Dammitt at 00:02, 14 March 2014 2014-03-14T00:02:50Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:02, 14 March 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l77">Line 77:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 77:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Hm, I don't really know how to respond to that. Agility and dexterity are two different skills — dexterity determines how skillful the person is when performing certain things/tasks/whatever, especially skills that involve using hands, agility on the other hand determines the quickness of motion, well, the speed in general. In games dexterity usually affects how accurate attacks are (meaning weapon hit rate) and also damage for ranged weapons, while agility affects dodge rate, attack speed, cast speed etc. So for a gamer these are two ''completely'' different things. But if you still want to change that - be my guest. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 12:42, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Hm, I don't really know how to respond to that. Agility and dexterity are two different skills — dexterity determines how skillful the person is when performing certain things/tasks/whatever, especially skills that involve using hands, agility on the other hand determines the quickness of motion, well, the speed in general. In games dexterity usually affects how accurate attacks are (meaning weapon hit rate) and also damage for ranged weapons, while agility affects dodge rate, attack speed, cast speed etc. So for a gamer these are two ''completely'' different things. But if you still want to change that - be my guest. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 12:42, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Because this is really a problem similar to Wisdom vs. Intelligence. I guess I'll post it up onto the forums for now and see how others view this. For now I'll leave it as what you translated. (Although my Chapter 2 may not have those changes yet) [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 18:24, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Because this is really a problem similar to Wisdom vs. Intelligence. I guess I'll post it up onto the forums for now and see how others view this. For now I'll leave it as what you translated. (Although my Chapter 2 may not have those changes yet) [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 18:24, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::To be honest, I don't really see the problem with wisdom/intelligence either since they aren't synonyms, they are just different, like dexterity/agility :D Anyways, I just wanted to point out that it's not ''my'' translation, these terms are commonly used in rpgs, well, you can google "器用さ dexterity 敏捷さ agility" (without quote marks) and see for yourself.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Dexterity is the ability to make good judgments and quick decisions, typically in a particular domain while agility is the gracefulness of a person or animal that is quick and nimble.Wisdom is based on the ability of deduction while inteligent is based on memorization of texts,events etc.Also I would go with Dammit suggestion since it makes sense more or less.--[[User:Mytsy|Mytsy]] ([[User talk:Mytsy|talk]]) 18:33, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Dexterity is the ability to make good judgments and quick decisions, typically in a particular domain while agility is the gracefulness of a person or animal that is quick and nimble.Wisdom is based on the ability of deduction while inteligent is based on memorization of texts,events etc.Also I would go with Dammit suggestion since it makes sense more or less.--[[User:Mytsy|Mytsy]] ([[User talk:Mytsy|talk]]) 18:33, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr>  </table>

Dammitt http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dammitt&diff=338063&oldid=prev Mytsy: /* DanMachi */ 2014-03-13T23:33:40Z

<p><span class="autocomment">DanMachi</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:33, 13 March 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l77">Line 77:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 77:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Hm, I don't really know how to respond to that. Agility and dexterity are two different skills — dexterity determines how skillful the person is when performing certain things/tasks/whatever, especially skills that involve using hands, agility on the other hand determines the quickness of motion, well, the speed in general. In games dexterity usually affects how accurate attacks are (meaning weapon hit rate) and also damage for ranged weapons, while agility affects dodge rate, attack speed, cast speed etc. So for a gamer these are two ''completely'' different things. But if you still want to change that - be my guest. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 12:42, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Hm, I don't really know how to respond to that. Agility and dexterity are two different skills — dexterity determines how skillful the person is when performing certain things/tasks/whatever, especially skills that involve using hands, agility on the other hand determines the quickness of motion, well, the speed in general. In games dexterity usually affects how accurate attacks are (meaning weapon hit rate) and also damage for ranged weapons, while agility affects dodge rate, attack speed, cast speed etc. So for a gamer these are two ''completely'' different things. But if you still want to change that - be my guest. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 12:42, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Because this is really a problem similar to Wisdom vs. Intelligence. I guess I'll post it up onto the forums for now and see how others view this. For now I'll leave it as what you translated. (Although my Chapter 2 may not have those changes yet) [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 18:24, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Because this is really a problem similar to Wisdom vs. Intelligence. I guess I'll post it up onto the forums for now and see how others view this. For now I'll leave it as what you translated. (Although my Chapter 2 may not have those changes yet) [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 18:24, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Dexterity is the ability to make good judgments and quick decisions, typically in a particular domain while agility is the gracefulness of a person or animal that is quick and nimble.Wisdom is based on the ability of deduction while inteligent is based on memorization of texts,events etc.Also I would go with Dammit suggestion since it makes sense more or less.--[[User:Mytsy|Mytsy]] ([[User talk:Mytsy|talk]]) 18:33, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Mytsy http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dammitt&diff=338060&oldid=prev Jn19930: /* DanMachi */ 2014-03-13T23:24:27Z

<p><span class="autocomment">DanMachi</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:24, 13 March 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l76">Line 76:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 76:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Problem is I think many (like me) would think that Dexterity and Agility is essentially the same thing, which is why I try to avoid the ambiguous terms here. I do understand that dexterity could mean how skillful one is, so it can be translated to 器用, and that agility, meaning how fast or how agile one can be, can be translated to 敏捷. Do you think having these terms that nearly mean the same thing would really be a better choice? Because it may lead to a bit of confusion here and there. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 11:53, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Problem is I think many (like me) would think that Dexterity and Agility is essentially the same thing, which is why I try to avoid the ambiguous terms here. I do understand that dexterity could mean how skillful one is, so it can be translated to 器用, and that agility, meaning how fast or how agile one can be, can be translated to 敏捷. Do you think having these terms that nearly mean the same thing would really be a better choice? Because it may lead to a bit of confusion here and there. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 11:53, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Hm, I don't really know how to respond to that. Agility and dexterity are two different skills — dexterity determines how skillful the person is when performing certain things/tasks/whatever, especially skills that involve using hands, agility on the other hand determines the quickness of motion, well, the speed in general. In games dexterity usually affects how accurate attacks are (meaning weapon hit rate) and also damage for ranged weapons, while agility affects dodge rate, attack speed, cast speed etc. So for a gamer these are two ''completely'' different things. But if you still want to change that - be my guest. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 12:42, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Hm, I don't really know how to respond to that. Agility and dexterity are two different skills — dexterity determines how skillful the person is when performing certain things/tasks/whatever, especially skills that involve using hands, agility on the other hand determines the quickness of motion, well, the speed in general. In games dexterity usually affects how accurate attacks are (meaning weapon hit rate) and also damage for ranged weapons, while agility affects dodge rate, attack speed, cast speed etc. So for a gamer these are two ''completely'' different things. But if you still want to change that - be my guest. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 12:42, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::Because this is really a problem similar to Wisdom vs. Intelligence. I guess I'll post it up onto the forums for now and see how others view this. For now I'll leave it as what you translated. (Although my Chapter 2 may not have those changes yet) [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 18:24, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Jn19930 http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dammitt&diff=338018&oldid=prev Dammitt at 17:42, 13 March 2014 2014-03-13T17:42:03Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:42, 13 March 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l75">Line 75:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 75:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Well, that's the way it is usually translated in most rpg games. Generally speaking, there are 2 "types" of rpg games - the more complex ones (that have many stats) have both dexterity (器用, 器用さ) and agility (敏捷, 敏捷さ, 敏捷性), the others usually have just 3-5 stats and one of them is usually dexterity which is referred as 器用さ, 敏捷さ, 巧妙さ or sometimes 機敏さ. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 03:34, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Well, that's the way it is usually translated in most rpg games. Generally speaking, there are 2 "types" of rpg games - the more complex ones (that have many stats) have both dexterity (器用, 器用さ) and agility (敏捷, 敏捷さ, 敏捷性), the others usually have just 3-5 stats and one of them is usually dexterity which is referred as 器用さ, 敏捷さ, 巧妙さ or sometimes 機敏さ. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 03:34, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Problem is I think many (like me) would think that Dexterity and Agility is essentially the same thing, which is why I try to avoid the ambiguous terms here. I do understand that dexterity could mean how skillful one is, so it can be translated to 器用, and that agility, meaning how fast or how agile one can be, can be translated to 敏捷. Do you think having these terms that nearly mean the same thing would really be a better choice? Because it may lead to a bit of confusion here and there. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 11:53, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: Problem is I think many (like me) would think that Dexterity and Agility is essentially the same thing, which is why I try to avoid the ambiguous terms here. I do understand that dexterity could mean how skillful one is, so it can be translated to 器用, and that agility, meaning how fast or how agile one can be, can be translated to 敏捷. Do you think having these terms that nearly mean the same thing would really be a better choice? Because it may lead to a bit of confusion here and there. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 11:53, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Hm, I don't really know how to respond to that. Agility and dexterity are two different skills — dexterity determines how skillful the person is when performing certain things/tasks/whatever, especially skills that involve using hands, agility on the other hand determines the quickness of motion, well, the speed in general. In games dexterity usually affects how accurate attacks are (meaning weapon hit rate) and also damage for ranged weapons, while agility affects dodge rate, attack speed, cast speed etc. So for a gamer these are two ''completely'' different things. But if you still want to change that - be my guest. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 12:42, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Dammitt http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dammitt&diff=338011&oldid=prev Jn19930: /* DanMachi */ 2014-03-13T16:53:05Z

<p><span class="autocomment">DanMachi</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:53, 13 March 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l74">Line 74:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 74:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Looked at the part you edited at Chapter 1, but from what I see 器用 = Weapon Usage, which I translated to Technique, and you changed it to Dexterity. As for 敏捷, I understand that it can be used as Agility, but from my experience, most games that use 敏捷 will translate it to Dexterity. I'm not too sure about your changes for this. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 19:56, 12 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Looked at the part you edited at Chapter 1, but from what I see 器用 = Weapon Usage, which I translated to Technique, and you changed it to Dexterity. As for 敏捷, I understand that it can be used as Agility, but from my experience, most games that use 敏捷 will translate it to Dexterity. I'm not too sure about your changes for this. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 19:56, 12 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Well, that's the way it is usually translated in most rpg games. Generally speaking, there are 2 "types" of rpg games - the more complex ones (that have many stats) have both dexterity (器用, 器用さ) and agility (敏捷, 敏捷さ, 敏捷性), the others usually have just 3-5 stats and one of them is usually dexterity which is referred as 器用さ, 敏捷さ, 巧妙さ or sometimes 機敏さ. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 03:34, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Well, that's the way it is usually translated in most rpg games. Generally speaking, there are 2 "types" of rpg games - the more complex ones (that have many stats) have both dexterity (器用, 器用さ) and agility (敏捷, 敏捷さ, 敏捷性), the others usually have just 3-5 stats and one of them is usually dexterity which is referred as 器用さ, 敏捷さ, 巧妙さ or sometimes 機敏さ. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 03:34, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:: Problem is I think many (like me) would think that Dexterity and Agility is essentially the same thing, which is why I try to avoid the ambiguous terms here. I do understand that dexterity could mean how skillful one is, so it can be translated to 器用, and that agility, meaning how fast or how agile one can be, can be translated to 敏捷. Do you think having these terms that nearly mean the same thing would really be a better choice? Because it may lead to a bit of confusion here and there. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 11:53, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Jn19930 http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dammitt&diff=337977&oldid=prev Dammitt at 08:34, 13 March 2014 2014-03-13T08:34:03Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:34, 13 March 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l73">Line 73:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 73:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==DanMachi==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==DanMachi==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Looked at the part you edited at Chapter 1, but from what I see 器用 = Weapon Usage, which I translated to Technique, and you changed it to Dexterity. As for 敏捷, I understand that it can be used as Agility, but from my experience, most games that use 敏捷 will translate it to Dexterity. I'm not too sure about your changes for this. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 19:56, 12 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Looked at the part you edited at Chapter 1, but from what I see 器用 = Weapon Usage, which I translated to Technique, and you changed it to Dexterity. As for 敏捷, I understand that it can be used as Agility, but from my experience, most games that use 敏捷 will translate it to Dexterity. I'm not too sure about your changes for this. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 19:56, 12 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Well, that's the way it is usually translated in most rpg games. Generally speaking, there are 2 "types" of rpg games - the more complex ones (that have many stats) have both dexterity (器用, 器用さ) and agility (敏捷, 敏捷さ, 敏捷性), the others usually have just 3-5 stats and one of them is usually dexterity which is referred as 器用さ, 敏捷さ, 巧妙さ or sometimes 機敏さ. [[User:Dammitt|Dammitt]] ([[User talk:Dammitt#top|talk]]) 03:34, 13 March 2014 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Dammitt http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dammitt&diff=337901&oldid=prev Jn19930 at 00:56, 13 March 2014 2014-03-13T00:56:54Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:56, 13 March 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l72">Line 72:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 72:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==DanMachi==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==DanMachi==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Looked at the part you edited at Chapter 1, but from what I see 器用 = <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Skill </del>Usage, which I translated to Technique, and you changed it to Dexterity. As for 敏捷, I understand that it can be used as Agility, but from my experience, most games that use 敏捷 will translate it to Dexterity. I'm not too sure about your changes for this. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 19:56, 12 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Looked at the part you edited at Chapter 1, but from what I see 器用 = <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Weapon </ins>Usage, which I translated to Technique, and you changed it to Dexterity. As for 敏捷, I understand that it can be used as Agility, but from my experience, most games that use 敏捷 will translate it to Dexterity. I'm not too sure about your changes for this. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 19:56, 12 March 2014 (CDT)</div></td></tr>  </table>

Jn19930 http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dammitt&diff=337900&oldid=prev Jn19930 at 00:56, 13 March 2014 2014-03-13T00:56:01Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:56, 13 March 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l69">Line 69:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 69:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>about the puctuation - it's all good. most of my editors say the same thing as you - it's intuitive. and fuck... it is. rules often mess up the flow of a sentence.--[[User:Idiffer|Idiffer]] ([[User talk:Idiffer|talk]]) 09:36, 6 December 2012 (CST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>about the puctuation - it's all good. most of my editors say the same thing as you - it's intuitive. and fuck... it is. rules often mess up the flow of a sentence.--[[User:Idiffer|Idiffer]] ([[User talk:Idiffer|talk]]) 09:36, 6 December 2012 (CST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==DanMachi==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Looked at the part you edited at Chapter 1, but from what I see 器用 = Skill Usage, which I translated to Technique, and you changed it to Dexterity. As for 敏捷, I understand that it can be used as Agility, but from my experience, most games that use 敏捷 will translate it to Dexterity. I'm not too sure about your changes for this. [[User:Jn19930|Jn19930]] ([[User talk:Jn19930|talk]]) 19:56, 12 March 2014 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Jn19930 http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dammitt&diff=222682&oldid=prev Shadowys at 11:15, 27 January 2013 2013-01-27T11:15:01Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 11:15, 27 January 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==Black bullet==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Hi! I'm hoping to help with the Black bullet translations. I've got the chinese trans up to vol 3.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">--[[User:Shadowys|Shadowys]] ([[User talk:Shadowys|talk]]) 05:15, 27 January 2013 (CST)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Kino no Tabi==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Kino no Tabi==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Thank you so much for your edit and translation of the Kino no Tabi novels. I really love the series and I feel so happy when somebody decided to pick it up again.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Thank you so much for your edit and translation of the Kino no Tabi novels. I really love the series and I feel so happy when somebody decided to pick it up again.</div></td></tr>  </table>

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