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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby Mystes » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:11 pm

Silimir wrote:Volume 21-22 isn't about a stupid dragon and the pope being eaten by it! LOLL... it's about the war between the elves and the human... saving the world.... this is just a stupid ending.... i liked the pope....

Wait, is it true? I MISSED THE LAST TWO VOLUMES???
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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby Silimir » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:57 pm

yeah! Well kinda easy to know... ^^

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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby darcwizrd » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:26 pm

So just to be sure the last few episode aren't in the novels then? Cuz I've watched all the season just to get ready for this one and it doesn't fit to canon? Sometimes tv hurts my brain when they do that sort of thing.
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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby Silimir » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:54 am

indeed, the ending is totally modify, but it is good! It's giving to the people how are not japanese a good ending with a lot of emotions... hope the author will do the volume 21 and 22... I would cry if not ^^

Can't wait to see the last episode, It will re boost me! I will surely all see it, again!
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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby octapusxft » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:09 am

So the anime ends with the BS dragon ending up like the red eyes black dragon when it fought the time wizard (yu-gi-oh) and the main characters fianlly get married and go to meet Saito's family...

It is happy ending but the events which led to it in the last 3-4 episodes were too......bland to make me feel satisfied. I wish ZnT anime could get an ending as awesome as Shakugan no Shana did.
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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby Silimir » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:51 pm

Excuse me! That ending was purely fantastic! I LOVED IT! (well considering i love ZnT...).... But it was so great! It's sad that the anime is finished, but yeah, can't wait to read the true story too ^^

Still learning Japanese to read it! Hope the two last volumes will come out soon ^^
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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby octapusxft » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:20 pm

Silimir wrote:Excuse me! That ending was purely fantastic! I LOVED IT! (well considering i love ZnT...).... But it was so great! It's sad that the anime is finished, but yeah, can't wait to read the true story too ^^

Still learning Japanese to read it! Hope the two last volumes will come out soon ^^

Well to be frank it was not the endign that was the problem but the plot which lead to it which was not in the volumes
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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby Silimir » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:18 pm

Yea indeed, but since the beginning of the anime nothing was in order so I can't really blame....
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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby Mystes » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:15 am

Personally, the last few seasons made the final season look "not so bad".
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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby Mystes » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:48 pm

So, this is about Sili's comment about by worst adaptations list.

Well, Sili, the point wasn't that it didn't follow the story...The problem was that the ending completely destroyed what ZnT was supposed to be.

In my opinion, Saito and Louise had to go through a lot. They had to fight, to travel, to win and all that stuff. That was what kept me reading. There were enemies and goals. However, the anime really did...made it look much too childish this time.

In my opinion, ever since the second season, the anime has been going downfall. The problem with season 4 was that it abused all the possible clichés. Airplanes ex Machina, screaming each other's name repetitively, Saito jumping out of nowhere, and worst of all, a happy ending were two normally walk in the main character's house.

This is not drama, and I'm not expecting it to have some overly-deep meanings to them like Book Girl, nor some characters dying tragically like Shinsekai. But please, there is a problem with Saito not able to return home. It's not something you can brush it off easily.

I remember how ZnT season 1 was. For example, Henrietta losing her lover; Saito's laughable moments; Louise's actions that didn't seem so bad and that Void magic + airplane at the end. In season 2, there was less fantastic stuff, but hey, there were some emotional and touching scenes with the wedding, especially Saito's "death". Even in season 3, the conflict with Gallia and the stuff with Tabitha were acceptable. But season 4 lacks a bunch of things and misses a bunch o opportunities.

For one, Tiffania must be developed better. Season 4 was mainly about inter-world development, with the elves and the humans. This could be used to make Tiffania go against Saito and the others. Or it could be used to develop Tiffania's personality and some surprising characteristics she holds as an half-elf.

Secondly, the supporting characters lacked some depth. Kirche and Siesta are the main people I'm thinking of. Both seem to be very unidimensional. Siesta could have been a character more interesting if we knew more of her personality, her strengh and weaknesses, etc. The only one that was fairly developed is Tabitha; but again, that was what Season 3 was mainly about.

As for the ending, I could say much more, but I'll stop here. But really, even though I said it was better after some episodes that were simply bad in the past one, I still hoped for more...really, JC should stick to the SoL drama/romance series and stop killing the fantasy ones.
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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby Shadowys » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:08 pm

The elemental siblings also will play a heavy part in vol 21-22, i think. The author heavily hints that they have a grand plan (not sure what though) to achieve. All in all, with the amazing fourth familiar, the pace of the story will be quicker than before and the storyline perhaps, hopefully epic. The anime really ruined that....................

Spoiler! :
The elemental siblings are shown to use magic very similar to Ancient Magic......and they don't just pop up here and there......
Winter's the time of the year,
when the cold chill the skin,
from the very within,
but you grasped my hand,
your eyes shedding a frozen tear.
Our eyes met,
and warmth filled the air.
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Re: ZnT: Season 4 (aired)

Postby Silimir » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:18 pm

@kira
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