Scientific tern for tsundere.

[chrnno]

That's an interesting question, I am aware of my own mortality and I am fine with it BUT I was never in a situation where I was face-to-face with death so I can't truly answer that question, if I said anything different I would be lying.

[Poke2201]

Then it is not escapism.

[shichinanatsu]

@Poke: aren't you talking about different kinds of escapism? or more likely, escapism regarding different concepts? perhaps you think escapism is a form of denial? (which is partially true..)

escapism as manifested by a dependency on fiction and fantasy is caused by a desire to live in a world closer to one's ideals, a world that will adapt to one's wishes instead of you and your wishes adapting to the world.. meanwhile, living in ignorance of death isn't escapism, but just denial.

speaking from someone who's faced death once and survived, frankly you will think about death and dying - if not be forced to - every once in a while. all forms of religious beliefs aside, its what you do with your life AFTER that first contemplation of death that makes all the difference.

now that's it before i get too carried away

[chrnno]

Then it is not escapism.

One of the definitions of escapism I found is "an inclination to retreat from unpleasant realities through diversion or fantasy." Using daily life to ignore death would fit that one...

To both of you what if the person creates a fantasy based on his daily life never changing, then you would consider it escapism? It fits what you said pretty well...

Also poke2201 the irony in what I said was because of how you defined escapism "well escapism is basically using something to avoid a problem."

[Darklor]

I dont think that tsun / dere has something to do with with escapism...

Also tsun / dere in reality its just a choleric who is mostly only cute if he / she says nothing

[rpapo]

Funny, and here I thought a "scientific tern" was one of these, with glasses . . .

[ainsoph9]

*Groan*

Philosophically, tsundere has some things to do with escapism, but in terms of the science behind the term, I would argue that sociology and psychology would go for the "bipolar" nature of the person. I do not think that "bipolar" is necessarily the best term to describe tsundere by a long shot because I have know truly bipolar people who act nothing like tsundere. I would also say that sociology in particular would go after the problems that dealing with the tsundere genre develops in real society and people so that they become NEETs and the like.

[Poke2201]

Tsundere arent escapists nor bipolar.

The main thing is that they just can't handle [insert emotion here] and will lash out. Once you get them somewhat fixed, then you get deredere.

[Darklor]

So you want them to be under drugs the whole time?

Bipolar is all about the ups and downs, but not necessary tsun and dere

[ainsoph9]

I realize that tsundere characters are not bipolar. Unfortunately, I have seen this translation by various fansub groups. It is sometimes a funny translation, but it is dysfunctional at best for the vast majority of the cases. Like names, it really should not be translated in a sense.

[Poke2201]

I find it more hilarious.

Also fansubbers arent your 1st choice for psychologists anyway....

[ainsoph9]

No wonder why I was shrunk a little too much...

[b0mb3r]

No wonder why I was shrunk a little too much...

psychologist and scientist with shrink rays are different you know.

[Poke2201]

Lol wat?

[chrnno]

Can anyone help me understand this line of conversation? I lost it in my last post...