Which kind of government do you like?

Mystes · Post by **Mystes** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:02 pm

Just asking like that, since Canada is on elections right now and the US will do it in a year or so. Personally, I'm more liberal/democrat. How about you?

b0mb3r · Post by **b0mb3r** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:39 pm

That's the thing. I don't know how to categorize myself nor do I want to. all these argument between left-wing, right-wing, fascists, communists, democrats, anarchist, etc. Where do I stand in all these societal ties? I understand that if you live in a country you are a citizen of that country and your loyalty lies there. I see myself as a global citizen for the sake of humanity and not the hidden agendas behind each government. I can already be seen as a dangerous individual since I am a thought-provoker, the questionteer, the artist, the corrupter, whatever. Is just a matter of time before someone will get me. I despise those who abuse their power for their own selfish reasons.

Zell_ff8 · Post by **Zell_ff8** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:00 pm

The law is always behind the society. And I don't think any country is perfect enough as to go without major changes for a full period.
I don't know about the factions, but I choose for changes. Of course there are several options with different types of changes, so I'll vote the changes I like more or I see more important.

(not from US/Canada, but in 6 months there'll be national elections in my country)

ben1234 · Post by **ben1234** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:02 pm

I pick the government that won't raise taxes and send warplanes to oil rich countries

Mystes · Post by **Mystes** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:32 pm

ben1234 wrote:I pick the government that won't raise taxes and send warplanes to oil rich countries

I can hint what warplanes you are talking of.

Post by **Poke2201** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:27 pm

I choose the government that will destroy corporations because they are evil.

Also, raise taxes to back before Bush-Era cuts for the wealthy...

ben1234 · Post by **ben1234** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:32 pm

kira0802 wrote:
ben1234 wrote:I pick the government that won't raise taxes and send warplanes to oil rich countries
I can hint what warplanes you are talking of.

Ya, I'm probably leaning towards voting for Liberals

Mystes · Post by **Mystes** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:56 am

ben1234 wrote:Ya, I'm probably leaning towards voting for Liberals

And me towards the Bloc.

Poke2201 wrote:I choose the government that will destroy corporations because they are evil.

Also, raise taxes to back before Bush-Era cuts for the wealthy...

Left-sided, aren't you?

Post by **Poke2201** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:16 am

Fiscally Conservative.

Socially liberal.

Im against tax cuts though. Want to know more about my position just ask.

Zell_ff8 · Post by **Zell_ff8** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:57 am

I don't know why taxes are a criteria for choosing. Taxes are necessary. At least I don't complain for more or less taxes, I complain on where those funds go to and its distribution.

Post by **Poke2201** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:30 pm

In the US people are against taxes for some goddamned reason. I don't know how its like in other countries, but taxes are an "issue" here.

Zell_ff8 · Post by **Zell_ff8** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:44 pm

Tax by definition is how a state gets funds, and public funds are needed for everything, roads, infrastructure, subsidies, actions, health, security, education, salaries. Wanting "no tax" is absolutely absurd because then you'll be paying the real value for everything. (and absurd example: a sandwich real value can be 230u$s).
I don't know in those countries, but in Argentina if there's a new tax, for example, at energy bills, it's stated: "2% tax according to bill #xxxxx of 'Sport activity support'" or "Mid-level education fund". So at some extent you know where your taxes are going.

The only complaints I ever heard about taxes are (1) the use of them, for example useless bureaucracy (creating new and useless sub-sub-secretaries and pay the employees salaries for doing nothing -they have a proper definition: "ñoquis: public employee that gets paid for doing nothing") or actual corruption of not using the money for what it was meant for. or (2) the purpose of them. For example the 50% customs tax for import via postal mail. Its too much and has no grounds, a pendrive, a shoe, or an industrial blender, everything goes to the same rag.

By the contrary, often you see people movilizating for MORE taxes in order to create a new service or a new fund for something.

Post by **Poke2201** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:20 pm

Well... Some people believe taxes are too high.... WHILE THERES A DEFICIT IN THE US BUDGET!!!!!

Sure spending should go down, but its ridiculous to think that we shouldn't increase taxes.

If anything, corporate tax code needs to be fixed... Some corporations don't pay taxes in the US.

ben1234 · Post by **ben1234** » Mon May 02, 2011 7:15 pm

I'm very disappointed at seeing Harper get his majority. Now the country will go further into debt by investing useless warplanes and wars the country has no right to be in

And what makes it even worse is that our taxes are going up again so Harper can pass some more bills to give himself a raise

onizuka-gto · Post by **onizuka-gto** » Mon May 02, 2011 8:03 pm

"Which kind of government do you like?"

Well, At this moment? ones that has a head of State that can crack a joke, absobloodylutely kick the llama's arse and break the biatchs bollocks when the situations calls for it.

Good one Yanks, thanks for avenging the London Bombing, some what.

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