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That is up to the discussion anyway. For me I'd use Serult, this is Pryun's idea and it still looks best imo, compared to all variants I saw until now.
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So it seems we discovered new information in the "Agil's guide to being a MAN"
Full credit goes to Tap!! :)

Agil’s Wife

Q. I believe you have a good, sensible and reliable husband, but where did you meet and if it’s possible, the tale of how the two of you met and such…
A. He’s all that, but he was a total cry-baby back when he was a kid, so I must have really done well, hahahaha.

Great work translating those Q&A sessions Tap!
(The one about Midori approving of Kazuto and Suguha is weird isn't it?)
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Hmm, cousins are able to legally marry in Japan and several other countries, regardless of whether it's commonly done or not.
As far as I know, there's not much health risks (for childbirth and such) that comes with it, so there's no real reason not to, biologically.
There would be discrimination in certain countries though.
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Tap wrote:Hmm, cousins are able to legally marry in Japan and several other countries, regardless of whether it's commonly done or not.
As far as I know, there's not much health risks (for childbirth and such) that comes with it, so there's no real reason not to, biologically.
There would be discrimination in certain countries though.
I guess I should clarify haha , I wasn't talking about the cousins being together problem but more of her actual answers.
"It would be reassuring in a certain sense, but…" , "I believe having good relations to be a positive thing. The future should be free to let itself run its course."
are kinda weird answers , although I guess that seems like a common theme on the Q&A to give ambiguous remarks.

Also made me wonder that jab about drifting apart from Asuna
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It seems if Kirito got trouble in the UW, that will be the "restriction on sword skills" and the "different stat mechanic"
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gn_x00 wrote:It seems if Kirito got trouble in the UW, that will be the "restriction on sword skills" and the "different stat mechanic"
And the IS, too. He basically doesn't have much experience with it, especially comparing to the normal residents of UW. Well, I can name only one instance when he used IS before diving into the UW
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M.A.D wrote: And the IS, too. He basically doesn't have much experience with it, especially comparing to the normal residents of UW. Well, I can name only one instance when he used IS before diving into the UW
Maybe a bit silly of me to ask , but what is IS? I can't put my finger on what you are referring too :)
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Sludge wrote:
M.A.D wrote: And the IS, too. He basically doesn't have much experience with it, especially comparing to the normal residents of UW. Well, I can name only one instance when he used IS before diving into the UW
Maybe a bit silly of me to ask , but what is IS? I can't put my finger on what you are referring too :)
It's something from Accel World, so explaining it is a bit spoilerish.
Spoiler! :
IS, or <<Incarnate System>>, is the power that is best described as "mind over digital data". It's when a player overrides the system's command and surpass its limitation with nothing but sheer willpower and imagination. The first person in recorded (fictional) history who ever achieved this feat is Asuna, who crossed a one-hour-long walk in 5 minutes and shake out of the paralysis imposed upon her by the system on her own (though in the former case, it's possible that she might just have been stalking them from the beginning). And later on, Kirito also did this, by not dying when he was killed.

However, the term <<Incarnate System>> is only mentioned in Accel World.
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M.A.D wrote:
gn_x00 wrote:It seems if Kirito got trouble in the UW, that will be the "restriction on sword skills" and the "different stat mechanic"
And the IS, too. He basically doesn't have much experience with it, especially comparing to the normal residents of UW. Well, I can name only one instance when he used IS before diving into the UW
I can think of two times for Kirito and two for Asuna. Asuna's were both in book 1. One of Kirito's was in book 1, and the other was a certain dodge at the end of Phantom Bullet. Those are the only ones that can't really be explained away by game quirks.

There are other times where it's only hinted that they might have done something special. Like the 6th sense for dodging was something he supposedly used in their ambush games back in SAO. Being able to stand up near the end of Fairy Dance. And a bunch of times where Kirito is just plain faster than anyone else (maybe game stats, maybe IS, no one knows). Possibly some stuff Sinon has done, also.

Plus Kirito himself is thinking along those lines in the latest translated stuff (book 10, chapter 4, part 1). Maybe he'll get to try to do it intentionally at some point. Most of the fishy stuff in book 1 was traumatic enough that I can accept that he tried to bury it for a couple years instead of analyzing it. We've got several books left to go, so I could see him getting desperate at some point later on and trying to do something that's supposed to be impossible in Underworld, but that he used to have total confidence in back in Aincrad.
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M.A.D wrote:
Sludge wrote:Maybe a bit silly of me to ask , but what is IS? I can't put my finger on what you are referring too :)
It's something from Accel World, so explaining it is a bit spoilerish.
Spoiler! :
IS, or <<Incarnate System>>, is the power that is best described as "mind over digital data". It's when a player overrides the system's command and surpass its limitation with nothing but sheer willpower and imagination. The first person in recorded (fictional) history who ever achieved this feat is Asuna, who crossed a one-hour-long walk in 5 minutes and shake out of the paralysis imposed upon her by the system on her own (though in the former case, it's possible that she might just have been stalking them from the beginning). And later on, Kirito also did this, by not dying when he was killed.

However, the term <<Incarnate System>> is only mentioned in Accel World.
I have explain something to you,
Spoiler! :
Incarnate System isn't a power or something. IS is a system controling the game, like the Cardinal System in SAO (the same system of the "seed" used to create VR games and UW)
The power of imagination is an ability inside IS, but not IS itself. That power probably comes from the fluclights.
maybe Cardinal System + fluclights = IS
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Alech wrote: I have explain something to you,
Spoiler! :
Incarnate System isn't a power or something. IS is a system controling the game, like the Cardinal System in SAO (the same system of the "seed" used to create VR games and UW)
The power of imagination is an ability inside IS, but not IS itself. That power probably comes from the fluclights.
maybe Cardinal System + fluclights = IS
Ah, you're right. Well, the basic concept that I wanted to convey is the same, so it's fine.
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M.A.D wrote: It's something from Accel World, so explaining it is a bit spoilerish.
Spoiler! :
IS, or <<Incarnate System>>, is the power that is best described as "mind over digital data". It's when a player overrides the system's command and surpass its limitation with nothing but sheer willpower and imagination. The first person in recorded (fictional) history who ever achieved this feat is Asuna, who crossed a one-hour-long walk in 5 minutes and shake out of the paralysis imposed upon her by the system on her own (though in the former case, it's possible that she might just have been stalking them from the beginning). And later on, Kirito also did this, by not dying when he was killed.

However, the term <<Incarnate System>> is only mentioned in Accel World.
Would explain why I didn't get it at first , I'm watching AW anime so I know what you are talking about.
Is it confirmed to be IS on SAO story by anything or just the "impossible" actions are only explainable by it?

Also I'm aware that he is actually hinting at it during volume 10 but wasn't sure it's exactly the same system until you mentioned it just now :)
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Sludge wrote:
M.A.D wrote: It's something from Accel World, so explaining it is a bit spoilerish.
Spoiler! :
IS, or <<Incarnate System>>, is the power that is best described as "mind over digital data". It's when a player overrides the system's command and surpass its limitation with nothing but sheer willpower and imagination. The first person in recorded (fictional) history who ever achieved this feat is Asuna, who crossed a one-hour-long walk in 5 minutes and shake out of the paralysis imposed upon her by the system on her own (though in the former case, it's possible that she might just have been stalking them from the beginning). And later on, Kirito also did this, by not dying when he was killed.

However, the term <<Incarnate System>> is only mentioned in Accel World.
Would explain why I didn't get it at first , I'm watching AW anime so I know what you are talking about.
Is it confirmed to be IS on SAO story by anything or just the "impossible" actions are only explainable by it?

Also I'm aware that he is actually hinting at it during volume 10 but wasn't sure it's exactly the same system until you mentioned it just now :)
I think it has the same characteristic to the one in AW, but dunno about the name...
but honestly, since the first time I hear about it in AW anime, the first thing that rings in my mind is "An Incarnating Radius"
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gn_x00 wrote: I think it has the same characteristic to the one in AW, but dunno about the name...
but honestly, since the first time I hear about it in AW anime, the first thing that rings in my mind is "An Incarnating Radius"
Hang on, hang on.....

If we go back to the start, Heathcliff's goal was to create "Aincrad", the one that existed in his mind. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the meaning of "An Incarnating Radius" is of a world that expands from a single idea/source. If that's the case, then the real reason that he considered Kirito and Asuna's actions a "victory" is that they managed "An Incarnating Action", actions that come not from commands but a will or idea. He realized that they took a step towards "An Incarnating Radius" that he never did, which made them closer to "Aincrad" than he himself was. This, in effect, made continuing the death game meaningless, which is why he ended it and tried to find other ways of creating "Aincrad" while giving Kirito the means to work towards the same goal(The Seed).

If we fast forward into Accel World, wouldn't the Incarnate System just be the next step towards "Aincrad"? By allowing more people to act through will alone, you have a seedbed that could bear fruit: people able to not just move and fight, but to create as well. Just look at Sky Raker's place, she managed to make a cottage stocked with food that can be eaten, what else is being made by other people? Would it be possible to create a whole world with the Incarnate System alone? A true "Aincrad"? Or is it just another step towards that goal?

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Well, we know that he is still alive in the VR world somewhere, and that he wants to meet Kirito again...
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