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^ I'm sorry I don't understand
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Thanks for the new update translators!!!! ^o^ Your perseverance continues to amaze me!
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Cryum wrote:Considering the hit-count restriction, it doesn't seem like the divine weapons(level 40ish) would be high enough to allow Starburst Stream, let alone Total Eclipse. I'd rather see Kirito pull those moves off without skill assist, something to go with his inner conflict of the difference between Kirito and Kirigaya Kazuto.
I REALLY want to see those arrogant noble's faces when they see Starburst Stream. well, since people in Aincrad seems to go "WTF?" when he is using it, showing it to those nobles maybe too much...

What kind of "real sword skills" that he will be able to do with lv 40ish sword really makes me curious though. hopefully it won't end with just Vertical Square or something "normal" (even though 4 hit skill is not really that normal here :mrgreen: )
Pryun wrote:^ I'm sorry I don't understand
for me, it seems like he is talking about the Vol 10 Ch 4 part 2
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Guest wrote:I think rare flowers would make a more romantic gifts than rare sword skills.
Pryun wrote:^ I'm sorry I don't understand
He's talking about Kirito's gift to Miss Selrut/Cerulute/Celulute/Selrute/Icouldkeepgoingforever
If you got sick of the world, and made it better to gain some peace of mind, would you be selfish or selfless?
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Since you are talking to me, Serult would be more favorable.

Ah, now I understand... Should've known it was not a continuation of a previous topic... :oops:
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Well.. if it's just one syllable off... It would be really mean of the random name generator in STL to name a girl Cellulite. Really. Really mean.
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I prefer Selrute or Celerute, myself. It seems that Kawahara intended an "e" sound rather than a "u" sound, though.
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I prefer Rina-senpai to Miss Cellula-*cough* Cellularphone.
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Skeptic wrote: Also, if the unique skills were left in for Underworld, he'd have to once again be the fastest 'player', and would probably need to get his level back up to the mid 70s to unlock it. I think it's more likely that he'd be forcing it through Imagination rather than through officially supported system assist. He has the advantages of knowing it was possible in another game, and having personally used it.
I am pretty hopeful that this is not fully the case.
1. Fastest player: in SAO he might have the fastest reaction, but in UW, it might be just a boundary, such that if he recovers his comfort (got used to UW), it might be enough to 'unlock' the skill
2. Level: Did he really need lv70s? I thought it was just unlocked for him one day. I also think that the unlockable skills mentioned don't have player level requirement to unlock them, but skill level of other skills. He did train for 2 years in UW after all.
3. imagination vs system assist: the imagination may help to request the system to form/make available the dual skill once again, and unlock the system assist needed to initiate the skill :) So the combination of both maybe.

I'm sure someone knows the answer if they have read the web novel before.. XD

On another note.. Lol.. We still don't have the most comfortable sounding name for Kirito's mentor? XD

P.S. What is done? what is done? Is Kirito remaking Elucidator? O.O
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acolyte wrote:
Skeptic wrote: P.S. What is done? what is done? Is Kirito remaking Elucidator? O.O
He's getting the sword made from the twig of the giga cedar. I just finished marathoning the whole series and man what a cliff hanger. "oh crap, finally getting that sword!"... page does not exist. Big thanks to the translators though who are doing a good job of keeping up despite the fast pace that these novels get released.
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acolyte wrote:
Skeptic wrote: Also, if the unique skills were left in for Underworld, he'd have to once again be the fastest 'player', and would probably need to get his level back up to the mid 70s to unlock it. I think it's more likely that he'd be forcing it through Imagination rather than through officially supported system assist. He has the advantages of knowing it was possible in another game, and having personally used it.
I am pretty hopeful that this is not fully the case.
1. Fastest player: in SAO he might have the fastest reaction, but in UW, it might be just a boundary, such that if he recovers his comfort (got used to UW), it might be enough to 'unlock' the skill
2. Level: Did he really need lv70s? I thought it was just unlocked for him one day. I also think that the unlockable skills mentioned don't have player level requirement to unlock them, but skill level of other skills. He did train for 2 years in UW after all.
3. imagination vs system assist: the imagination may help to request the system to form/make available the dual skill once again, and unlock the system assist needed to initiate the skill :) So the combination of both maybe.

I'm sure someone knows the answer if they have read the web novel before.. XD

On another note.. Lol.. We still don't have the most comfortable sounding name for Kirito's mentor? XD

P.S. What is done? what is done? Is Kirito remaking Elucidator? O.O
I'm pretty sure they use a different parameter for unlocking sword skills in UW. The original parameters in SAO are not something that is inherent to the mechanics of the World Seed, but rather a set values that a moderator (Kayaba or other) sets for the game called SAO. However, in UW's case, all or at least most parameters are left blank because there would be no use for them, since this isn't actually a game. That's why there are only two stats in UW. In that sense, as long as the residence of the UW have the authority, the proper equipment, and the imagination to pull off Dual Blade, anyone would be able to use it. Well, even though the only two visible parameters that they need are swords with high enough Object level, and an adequate Object Control Authority to wield such swords, those parameters are frightfully hard to overcome. I daresay only Integrity Knights have ever reached that level, and not all of them could have pulled off higher single-bladed skills, let alone Dual blades.

Also, let's just go with Serult. It's a decent enough name. Well, names in UW are supposed to sound weird anyway, since they are a separate society and shouldn't have names that exist in the real world
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This chapter, so much "pulling back" on Kirito's thoughts,
I don't like being kept in the dark like this! :)

I'm hoping the twig sword turns out AWESOME and he can pull off a few more hits when showing off for his sempai.
Also hoping next part will be told by the Observer , I just love the references used all the time about It's existence ever since that part.

About the sword skills and Duel Wielding , I think since UW seems to be pretty secretive about types of Sacred Arts and Sword Skills that the imagination of most people is somewhat limited only to their experiences.
Compared to Kirito that knows about several other skills from previous experience and knowledge so he can use imagination for powerful attacks that UW denizens just never thought off.
I still believe though that it is possible that a existence of a Duel Wielding Integrity Knight exists , we'll just have to wait and see I guess :)
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Sludge wrote:This chapter, so much "pulling back" on Kirito's thoughts,
I don't like being kept in the dark like this! :)

I'm hoping the twig sword turns out AWESOME and he can pull off a few more hits when showing off for his sempai.
Also hoping next part will be told by the Observer , I just love the references used all the time about It's existence ever since that part.

About the sword skills and Duel Wielding , I think since UW seems to be pretty secretive about types of Sacred Arts and Sword Skills that the imagination of most people is somewhat limited only to their experiences.
Compared to Kirito that knows about several other skills from previous experience and knowledge so he can use imagination for powerful attacks that UW denizens just never thought off.
I still believe though that it is possible that a existence of a Duel Wielding Integrity Knight exists , we'll just have to wait and see I guess :)
I say it is also possible since the senpai duel wielded the sword and whip. In fact there may actually be a style of duel wield swords in UW though seems sorta unlikely.
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Gohankuten wrote: I say it is also possible since the senpai duel wielded the sword and whip. In fact there may actually be a style of duel wield swords in UW though seems sorta unlikely.
The senpai's dual wielding style is different from Kirito's Dual Blades skill. If it's just using two weapons with two hands, anyone can do it, but Dual Blades is a skill included in the system and can be performed with System Assist. Using two weapons with two hands isn't a concept that is too hard to imagine, so I'm sure a lot of people can develop it. However, there is only one Dual Blades skill in this world that is recognised by the system, and even without taking in consideration the kind of luck or imagination to discover it, the mere requirement to be able to perform it is enough a challenge as it is.

Look at it this way. Kirito can only perform a 5-consecutive-hits skill with a Divine-class weapon, the same kind that Integrity Knights use. That means, even if some people have the imagination to look for, or the luck to strike a pose that is the starter motion of a Dual Blade skill, they'd most probably won't be able to activate it due to the lack of strength. At the very least, any one lesser than an Integrity Knight can't do it. However, there is only a handful of people who reached that level, and those who did would have mastered a single-bladed sword style already when they reached it, and thus would be more confident with using the sword they already have in hand rather than trying to develop new skills with a second sword. Further more, they would have to frequently go out on missions, protecting the border of the world using the single-bladed sword skills that they already knew, and that would lowers the chance of discovering a dual wielding skill.

In conclusion, the chance of anyone other than Kirito having a Dual Blade skill is possible, but also unlikely. Unless, of course, if it's a million-to-one chance, then it's a sure thing.
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M.A.D wrote: In conclusion, the chance of anyone other than Kirito having a Dual Blade skill is possible, but also unlikely. Unless, of course, if it's a million-to-one chance, then it's a sure thing.
Considering how many hundreds of years can pass so long as there are no humans in UW, I think the chance of it eventually happening is a lot more than million-to-one, and since it's not exactly a million-to-one, by theory of narrative causality, it won't work.

.........why are we back to tropes again? facepalm
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