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Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:56 pm
by ben1234
What little I remember of Chinese says "他" can be both male and gender neutral. They use it as "it" as well

My relatives in Hong Kong seems to agree too

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:01 pm
by Doraneko
ben1234 wrote:What little I remember of Chinese says "他" can be both male and gender neutral. They use it as "it" as well
That is true to a certain extent for older texts. But modern usage specifically requires the use of feminine pronoun of "她" as "she" and the neuter pronoun of "它" as "it".

The gender neutral characteristic of "他" has degenerated to only for describing a random person of unknown sex, such as a third-party consumer in template contracts.

My relatives in Hong Kong seems to agree too
LOL sadly speaking Hongkongers suck at languages in general - including both Chinese and English :lol: . The only thing they are good at is their local dialect of Cantonese. This comes from someone who has been stuck at its pathetic education system for almost 20 years.

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:17 pm
by ben1234
That's what I get for not checking if you edited your original post :lol:

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:35 am
by Mystes
Doraneko wrote:
ben1234 wrote:What little I remember of Chinese says "他" can be both male and gender neutral. They use it as "it" as well
That is true to a certain extent for older texts. But modern usage specifically requires the use of feminine pronoun of "她" as "she" and the neuter pronoun of "它" as "it".

The gender neutral characteristic of "他" has degenerated to only for describing a random person of unknown sex, such as a third-party consumer in template contracts.
"它" is rarely used, BTW. Ususally, the texts use simply the object itself as a subject. Also, very often the subject is ommitted, especially in speaking. (Though I speak like a true Beijing-native.)

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:44 am
by ben1234
Shhhhh

Let's just end it there and pretend I remembered that

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:33 am
by Ristridin
There seems to be an inconsistency in the gender of Argo. In volume 2, chapter 4, Argo is considered to be male, while in Aria in the Starless Night, Argo is female. Which one is it?

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:27 pm
by Xplorer30
We didn't know Argo's gender so thought was male till Aria came out. Now we can probably switch Argo to she.

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:11 am
by Ushwood
What's the name of the shooting contest in GGO?
"Bullet of Bullets" (Black Cats' and Teh_Ping's translation) or "Ballet of Bullets" (KR's translation)?

From the original katakana writing "baretto obu barettsu" it could be either. I think "Ballet" is much better.

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:11 pm
by Teh_ping
Ushwood wrote:What's the name of the shooting contest in GGO?
"Bullet of Bullets" (Black Cats' and Teh_Ping's translation) or "Ballet of Bullets" (KR's translation)?

From the original katakana writing "baretto obu barettsu" it could be either. I think "Ballet" is much better.
Problem is that volume 6 itself did note 'Bullet of Bullets' in English.

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:40 pm
by Ushwood
Teh_ping wrote: Problem is that volume 6 itself did note 'Bullet of Bullets' in English.
Where is that? I have the Japanese raws but didn't find that in the pics...
I found only the abbreviation "BoB" and katakana writing...

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:17 am
by Vaelis
Ushwood wrote:
Teh_ping wrote: Problem is that volume 6 itself did note 'Bullet of Bullets' in English.
Where is that? I have the Japanese raws but didn't find that in the pics...
I found only the abbreviation "BoB" and katakana writing...
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Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:23 am
by Ushwood
I see... what a pity :(

@Vaelis, Teh_Ping: thanks anyway.

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:19 pm
by milki
How is SAO pronounced? Just wondering because of http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index ... oldid=prev

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:21 pm
by larethian
milki wrote:How is SAO pronounced? Just wondering because of http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index ... oldid=prev
S-A-O. Ass-Eh-Oh

Re: Sword Art Online - Names and Terminology

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:06 pm
by ben1234
I think we'll have to wait for the anime to really know that since they might actually be spelling it out