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Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:34 am
by theUnbreakableSky
Hm. Waiting for NS may batch?

How would you like helping me for V11 then? I'm also translating it for Chinese, and I'm trying to get out chapter 2 before May.

Is this fine, Xplorer30? That I asked for help and not the other way round.

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:44 am
by Superior Superboy
theUnbreakableSky wrote:Hm. Waiting for NS may batch?

How would you like helping me for V11 then? I'm also translating it for Chinese, and I'm trying to get out chapter 2 before May.

Is this fine, Xplorer30? That I asked for help and not the other way round.
Oh, you are Singaporean as well? :D Haha. you waiting for yours as well? I would gladly take up the offer as long as everyone else here is fine with it as well.

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:52 am
by theUnbreakableSky
Plenty other translators are Singaporean too. (: I won't spoil it for you though, find out for yourself.

Like I said on the AW&SAO thread, you'll have to wait for Xplorer30 to give it a green light. Technically there's supposed to be no more than 1 translator per volume, to ensure consistency and continuity. Another translator can hop on if the current on stops or goes MIA/KIA.

...though I understand why the Chinese translators can do it so fast, one volume has like 8-10 guys working on it.

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:26 pm
by Xplorer30
If you guys are willing to work together peacefully, I guess it's ok.

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:39 pm
by theUnbreakableSky
All's well then. Thanks!

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:10 am
by theUnbreakableSky
I cam across something while translating V11:

Niko uses '-anesan' (姐さん)to refer to Fuuko, instead of the usual '-neesan' (姉さん)(Which also reminds me to go back and check the Japanese raw for all the '-neesans's...)

A quick Google search threw up some confusing and contradictory results, so I'd like to ask the Japanese-literate here, what's the difference between these two? In what way do they mean different things?

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:43 am
by Misogi
Maybe it's more respectful to use "ane" instead of "onee" or "nee".

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:49 am
by theUnbreakableSky
From what I can sift from online discussions, 'ane' is either old-fashioned or talking with your own sister, while 'onee-' is used in reference to your sister.

Man, I wish Google was as precise as it used to be...

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:17 am
by Misogi
From what I've seen :
- "ane" is a respectful form. Examples in BakaTest ("ane-ue", Hideyoshi to Yuuko), TWGOK ("ane-ue", Kusunoki to Hinoki), or Shana ("ane-san", Eita to Margery).
- "onee" is the common one. Plenty of examples.
- "nee" is the familiar version. Plenty of examples too.

Note that they aren't always used to real older sisters, but also to persons seen as such.

I may be wrong, though.

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:20 am
by theUnbreakableSky
hmm.

Well, I'll just keep translating and hope some more hints turn up. Thanks!

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:19 am
by Xplorer30
Yea, it is pretty hard to convert those endings to English form so I just keep them all to save my brain for something else.

Let's just say that they have different levels of respect and familiarity to name callings, and it's used way more than both English or Chinese people.

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:31 am
by Kai Ding
Regarding the Green King's name, グリーングランデ, I think it still should be Green Grandee not Grandeur.

Grandee refers to people of a somewhat comparable, exalted position, roughly synonymous with magnate.By extension the term can refer informally to any important person of high status, particularly a wealthy, land owning, long-time resident in an area. I think that description fits the Green King pretty well, since it also kinda hints at the fact that the Green King is an Originator.

Grandeur on the other hand is defined as 'splendour and impressiveness', it kinda fits but I still think Grandee is the more accurate name.

The Chinese official translated novels also used Grandee.

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:20 am
by theUnbreakableSky
I concur...depending on the pronounciation, 'grandeur' still sounds very different from 'gurande' (This army can't type in other languages.)

Well then, I'll go back and fix some of the 'granduer' in the latest uploads. I seem to recall one or two in SS1...

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:59 pm
by Xplorer30
I had it as Grandee before following the jp wiki, but it changed to Grandeur so I asked around and changed it. Now the wiki changed back to Grandee again, sigh...

Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:25 pm
by theUnbreakableSky
I'm stuck on this term again...

Niko refers to what I suppose is her strongest players in Prominence, the equivalent of the Four Elements in NN, or Manganese and Cobalt Blade is to Blue Knight. In kanji, it's written as 'Three Beasts', 三獣士. The furigana above it is either 'toriburekkusu,' トリブレックス, or 'toripurekkusu,' トリプレックス. From the resolution of my Jap raws, i can't see which one is the right one.

Anyone have any ideas what it's supposed to be in English?