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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby Pryun » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:58 am

I checked the differences for rondo, they are quite minor. not sure about Aria, but should be about the same.

Call me when the day before is done. I'm too lazy to check...
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby ArchmageXin » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:27 am

I just found all 40 parts of Rondo in chinese. Happy kitty :mrgreen:
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby Pryun » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:29 am

you should be looking for rondo in progressive.
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby ArchmageXin » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:31 am

Pryun wrote:you should be looking for rondo in progressive.


Oh, well, one miracle at a time. Most Chinese LN sites banned SAO works, as it is copyrighted in China.
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby Pryun » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:36 am

Oh? didn't know that. But shouldn't most of the LNs be banned as well?
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby ArchmageXin » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:39 am

Pryun wrote:Oh? didn't know that. But shouldn't most of the LNs be banned as well?


No, they operate same rules as America-When a chinese company come with a cease and desist letter (SAO is published in China)

And their translator teams are amazing, Rondo had like 8-9, some of the larger ones had 10+ a chapter.
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby Cryum » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:09 am

I'm kinda disappointed in Eugeo's answer to Tizei. I get that he doesn't meet this kind of situation very often, but now I'm starting to wonder about the situation between genders in Underworld. So far, it's been leaning close to "anybody who isn't a confident amazon is a damsel in distress", not that we've got an objective view of the whole thing yet.

I hope Kawahara isn't falling back to stereotypes when he should be considering whether or not these stereotypes would even develop in a world like Underworld. On the other hand, if we treat all of the characters as young, almost human AIs, then it makes sense for them to be rather flat and simple. They're only beginning to explore the abuses of power from the perspective of both victim and victimizer.

......for them, this really isn't fighting, is it? They're trained to kill in as few as two hits while only using wooden swords, but all the hard work they put into it falls so easily to Children Are Cruel and Teenagers High on Pride/Hormones Are Cruel.

To Tap: Noble Obligation is certainly the english version, but I have to agree with PROzess that noblesse oblige sounds better, Although I forgot whether Sacred Tongue uses Latin as well. I also may have watched too much Eden of the East.
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby Tap » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:59 am

Well, Underworld is a world with near zero open conflict.
And people do develop faster through overcoming conflict, after all.

Really though, if you consider how Kirito is essentially a piece of flint that lights up everyone around him, it makes some sense.
Before interacting with him or those who interacted with him, certain concepts based around breaking or bending rules are basically non-existent (as is evident in Eugeo's monologues as he "grows up").
As a result, everyone would accept whatever fate is given to them even if they hate it, resulting in relatively flat characters.
Kind of like religious zealots, not rejecting a belief even if it's obviously "wrong".
But with him around, the concept of actively going against that fate is introduced and if they act based on their wishes, they essentially become more rounded (most obvious in Eugeo and Rina right now).


Also, I do agree the French version is more common and logical, but "Noble Obligation" was given in katakana. And Kirito partially said "English".
So yea, unless I were to change the text itself, it would be "noble obligation".
Heck, I don't think any country has any common usage of it as "noble obligation" aside from Japan (ironically).
As for Latin, there is Avi Admina...
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby Cryum » Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:22 am

So....it could be a mistake on Kawahara's part, or a mistake on Kirito's part, since it's perfectly normal for a japanese to use the english version rather than the french version.....Ah well, more fun with cultural differences, I suppose.

Kawahara is walking the thin line between being shallow and being too deep, and I'm worried that the people who got into the anime first will only see the shallow parts.
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby gn_x00 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:45 pm

Thanks Tap for the translation.

and did we know who's Uolo Levanteinn's valet? I kinda forget whether we were told about him or not
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby Wrath » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:08 am

I have been following SAO for 2 years now, and i love the first 4 volumes. What i really love is the romance between Kirito and Asuna. I thank everyone for all the hard work they are putting in translating the light novels, but i feel the author is starting to drag on the plot. I really do like the story between Kirito and Asuna. What do other people think? (or am i barking up the wrong tree (as in im in the wrong form))
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby Solterina » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:17 pm

what the.... raios the annoying noble is currently rank #1 swordman in academy? and another annoying noble is rank #2? not kirito and eugeo? just... what the....
kirito should've use blue rose and gigas cedar sword to mutilated them with starburst stream :evil:
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby l.kostas » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:38 pm

I guess they had higher ranks than Kirito and Eugeo for the plot to develop the way it did. If Kirito and Eugeo had much higher ranks, they would use that power to stop those nobles and the plot stops here. It is important for future development.
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby Cryum » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:46 am

The clear themes of Underworld is about time and determination, not just of the individual but of collectives. When Kirito and any "commoner" goes up against a noble, they are literally going up against the will of not only one person, but the wills of generations of tradition.

It's very similar to games like Persona 4 in that respect: The will of one can overcome that of many "weaker" people, but it is a near impossible battle(although the 300 year gigas cedar memories was main char destiny/hax)
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Re: Sword Art Online LN Discussion.

Postby Solterina » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:08 am

l.kostas wrote:I guess they had higher ranks than Kirito and Eugeo for the plot to develop the way it did. If Kirito and Eugeo had much higher ranks, they would use that power to stop those nobles and the plot stops here. It is important for future development.


after reading it thoroughly, eugeo and kirito placed 5th and 6th because they are stupid at paper exam :lol:
and now 1st and 2nd, they've got their punishment :twisted:
feel relieved after read it .

now waiting for Alice cosplaying saber and handsome integrity knight in the novel illustration~



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eugeo, don't become integrity knight and marry tieze, and publish new chapter 16.5~
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