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Accel World - OCR help with Original LN

Postby Guest » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:03 pm

Hi. As everybody knows Yen Press has bought the rights and Baka-Tsuki will not support the translation of the remaining volumes. I was very sad and depressed but managed to bought volumes 6 till 12 in Japanese. The problem is I can`t read Japanese at all and I was hoping to scan, ocr and translate it by myself. Is there an easy way, or do I really need to learn Japanese?
Thanks. I`m from Brazil, try to imagine how hard it is to find a Japanese teacher... :?
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Re: Accel World - OCR help with Original LN

Postby rpapo » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:14 am

Guest wrote:Hi. As everybody knows Yen Press has bought the rights and Baka-Tsuki will not support the translation of the remaining volumes. I was very sad and depressed but managed to bought volumes 6 till 12 in Japanese. The problem is I can`t read Japanese at all and I was hoping to scan, ocr and translate it by myself. Is there an easy way, or do I really need to learn Japanese?
Thanks. I`m from Brazil, try to imagine how hard it is to find a Japanese teacher... :?

Actually, there are many Japanese in Brasil. It has or had one of the largest expatriot populations of Japanese in the world. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_people#Diaspora

Beyond that, though, machine translators are still pretty poor unless the languages in question are closely related. And Japanese, apart from borrowed words (i.e. Portuguese 'pan' = bread), bears little resemblance to European languages, in structure, in vocabulary or in thought process.
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Re: Accel World - OCR help with Original LN

Postby Guest » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:51 am

Yeah, but Brazil is very big and in my city there are few or none japaneses. Anyway, thanks for the reply, I feel sad just to hold the LN.
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Re: Accel World - OCR help with Original LN

Postby Nurin » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:40 pm

Okay guest-san, I am Brazilian, and I live in a city on the coutry-side on RS, I managed to learn Japanese by myself(Even though I'm on halfway with it). There's nothing hard(not easy though), but you can do it by yourself if you can't get a teacher, like I did.
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Re: Accel World - OCR help with Original LN

Postby nickolaslr » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:17 am

Nura rihan wrote:Okay guest-san, I am Brazilian, and I live in a city on the coutry-side on RS, I managed to learn Japanese by myself(Even though I'm on halfway with it). There's nothing hard(not easy though), but you can do it by yourself if you can't get a teacher, like I did.


English: Dude thanks. I wonder if you could give me some tips. I mean, I don't even know where to start, should I go straight to the "alphabet"?
I've tried to translate every "syllabary", but as the LN is written in vertical, everything is put together and there is no space or punctuation I couldn't understand at all.

Portuguese: Cara obrigado. Poderia me passar algumas dicas? Não sei nem por onde começar. Digo, devo começar decorando o "alfabeto"?
Outra dúvida, tentei traduzir "letra" por "letra" mas como na light-novel está tudo emendado, na vertical, e não existe espaço ou pontuação não entendi nada, existe alguma regra?

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Re: Accel World - OCR help with Original LN

Postby Nurin » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:53 am

I also had this kind of feeling when I started, but start learning Katakana and Hiragana, when you learn them, you start with the kanji. I think you can also read some grammar books, it'll help you to understand the sentences, once you get something done you'll understand why of everything.

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Re: Accel World - OCR help with Original LN

Postby nickolaslr » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:55 am

Nura rihan wrote:I also had this kind of feeling when I started, but start learning Katakana and Hiragana, when you learn them, you start with the kanji. I think you can also read some grammar books, it'll help you to understand the sentences, once you get something done you'll understand why of everything.

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Postby rpapo » Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:55 am

nickolaslr wrote:English: Dude thanks. I wonder if you could give me some tips. I mean, I don't even know where to start, should I go straight to the "alphabet"? I've tried to translate every "syllabary", but as the LN is written in vertical, everything is put together and there is no space or punctuation I couldn't understand at all.

There's no question you must master the kana (both hiragana and katakana). As for the text being laid out without spaces . . . well, it's something you have to get used to. Back in the beginning I wrote a computer program to take the text and break it up based on dictionary lookups, but now I simply scan the text myself. The more complicated words generally start with a kanji symbol, but many other words are kana only. After a while, you get a feel for how the language is structured, and can parse it for yourself better than any computer program can.

But make no mistake: it takes a while.
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Re: Accel World - OCR help with Original LN

Postby nickolaslr » Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:03 am

rpapo wrote:
nickolaslr wrote:English: Dude thanks. I wonder if you could give me some tips. I mean, I don't even know where to start, should I go straight to the "alphabet"? I've tried to translate every "syllabary", but as the LN is written in vertical, everything is put together and there is no space or punctuation I couldn't understand at all.

There's no question you must master the kana (both hiragana and katakana). As for the text being laid out without spaces . . . well, it's something you have to get used to. Back in the beginning I wrote a computer program to take the text and break it up based on dictionary lookups, but now I simply scan the text myself. The more complicated words generally start with a kanji symbol, but many other words are kana only. After a while, you get a feel for how the language is structured, and can parse it for yourself better than any computer program can.

But make no mistake: it takes a while.


Thanks a lot! Let's see If I can learn it before Yen Press releases all the volumes! :D
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