Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoilers)

General discussion related to Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei

Moderators: thelastguardian, Fringe Security Bureau, Senior Editors, Senior Translators, Alt. Language Translator/Editor, Executive Council, Project Translators, Project Editors

User avatar
nr42
Kyonite - The Haruhi Pacifier
Posts: 186
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:04 am
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by nr42 »

Tatsuya believes Miyuki to be his sister, but has had doubts.
From v1: Even if it were only partially, they should still inherit the same genes, but even Tatsuya had doubted not just once or twice whether they were blood-related or not.


And we know that he's able to collect the samples needed and have them checked out without interference, even from the Yotsuba.

Whether he would like it or not, he is the sort of practical person who would check this little fact.
So if he believes that they are siblings that would render all the experiment speculation moot.
Zuruumi
Temporal Time Variant Entity
Posts: 258
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:35 pm
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by Zuruumi »

Not really, he is practicall person, therefore he would do that only if there was a reason to, but he would gain nothing from the tests no matter what the result would be, therefore he wouldn´t do them.
As for the quotation it is more a metaphor than a real doubt, therefore that is hardly a convincing proof.
User avatar
nr42
Kyonite - The Haruhi Pacifier
Posts: 186
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:04 am
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by nr42 »

The practical use is to make sure this won't be thrown in his face when he the time comes that he will "fight" the Yotsuba. I'm not saying it would change a lot (although it might), but at least it's knowledge you'd want to have in advance.

And I know it isn't ironclad, if it was there'd be no discussion.
kagetsuki23
Reader
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:03 pm
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by kagetsuki23 »

i am sur this guy http://mahouka-koukou-no-rettousei.wiki ... ou_Gongjin is yotsuba maya son because he look like a yotsuba and he can controle peoples mind, so they probably create him with maya ova.

he is probably the biggest threat to tatsuya and miyuki.
User avatar
nr42
Kyonite - The Haruhi Pacifier
Posts: 186
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:04 am
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by nr42 »

Interesting thought, the age fits more or less.
ergoGnomik
Kyonist
Posts: 11
Joined: Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:18 am
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by ergoGnomik »

kagetsuki23 wrote:i am sur this guy http://mahouka-koukou-no-rettousei.wiki ... ou_Gongjin is yotsuba maya son because he look like a yotsuba and he can controle peoples mind, so they probably create him with maya ova.

he is probably the biggest threat to tatsuya and miyuki.


What features are you basing on the statement that this guy is made from Maya's genetic material? And for biggest threat I think he should tear a number and stand in the line.
User avatar
nr42
Kyonite - The Haruhi Pacifier
Posts: 186
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:04 am
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by nr42 »

complete conjecture because he's from Dahan, he uses mind-magic and his age .
amtro
Reader
Posts: 8
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:39 am
Favourite Light Novel: MAhouka!

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by amtro »

Zhou is noted to be much older than he looks, in fact he is too old to be Maya's child.
Hatsunekai
Kyonist
Posts: 18
Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:07 am
Favourite Light Novel: Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei!

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by Hatsunekai »

I found a translated section of one of the latest volumes where Hayama talks to Mitsugu about the Yotsuba trying to kill Tatsuya the moment he was born because he was not up to the Yotsuba standards but they could not kill him even as a baby that's why they erased his memories during his early childhood. I believe that Tatsuya and Miyuki are true siblings, it has been fortified throughout the series that they are despite their feelings toward each other, but it cannot be denied that Tatsuya was born because if he wasn't, he would probably end up like Kudou Minoru, very powerful yet weak-bodied and dying, and I do think that even Minoru, as a fetes, grew in his mother's womb despite also having his aunt's genes. Tatsuya's body, on the other hand, is strong and has learned to resist and used to pain. Such a physically strong individual could not possibly be some test tube baby from the information that has been gathered throughout the progression of the novels. While part of me does want that to happen, it would simply destroy most, if not everything else, of what the story was built upon if Tatsuya and Miyuki ended up not being siblings.
smd111
Reader
Posts: 6
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:26 pm
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by smd111 »

all i need to say on this topic is
Spoiler! :
"As I was saying... Onii-sama and I are true siblings. Or at least that's what it says on the records, and DNA tests have always confirmed that relation."
--Miyuki (on the beach talking to Shizuku in Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei:Volume 5 Summer break)
User avatar
kau_poria
Astral Realm

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by kau_poria »

Well as per the Volume 16 preview Maya personally told Tatsuya that
Spoiler! :
"Miyuki is not your sister". So i just wonder what she actually means.
May be she is just toying with Tatsuya or may be she wants to see what he will do or she may be telling the truth. So now we will have to wait for Vol 16. :D
User avatar
TheLaG
Kyonite - The Haruhi Pacifier
Posts: 125
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:55 am
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by TheLaG »

kau_poria wrote:Well as per the Volume 16 preview Maya personally told Tatsuya that
Spoiler! :
"Miyuki is not your sister". So i just wonder what she actually means.
May be she is just toying with Tatsuya or may be she wants to see what he will do or she may be telling the truth. So now we will have to wait for Vol 16. :D


well, we don't know that, volume 16 is still not out, so lets wait till summer and then check what will happen, I have few speculations, but lets wait :lol:
jeffjeff
Haruhiist Specialist
Posts: 79
Joined: Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:27 pm
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by jeffjeff »

kau_poria wrote:Well as per the Volume 16 preview Maya personally told Tatsuya that
Spoiler! :
"Miyuki is not your sister". So i just wonder what she actually means.
May be she is just toying with Tatsuya or may be she wants to see what he will do or she may be telling the truth. So now we will have to wait for Vol 16. :D


Spoiler! :
Is this wincest I sense? :D

Hello loophole through Japanese laws?
Mahesvara
Elite Haruhiist
Posts: 80
Joined: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:18 pm
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by Mahesvara »

I think that this gives credibility to the theory that Tatsuya is Maya's son. This can also explain why the DNA test results show that they are siblings, because Maya and Miya are identical twins and have the same DNA. As long as they both have the same father then the tests would say that they are siblings. If this is true then Tatsuya and Miyuki would be half siblings and first cousins.
Venom_is_an_ace
Reader
Posts: 6
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:20 pm
Favourite Light Novel:

Re: Theory: Tatsuya & Miyuki are NOT siblings? (With spoiler

Post by Venom_is_an_ace »

Tatsuya can't be Maya's child because in Volume 8 she got raped and was not able to have kids because of it. that is also the reason she did not get married.
Post Reply

Return to “Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei”