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Re: So, Incest ending impossibru?

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Kurumi wrote:
Rohan123 wrote:The Oreimo ending was as good as it could be, Kirino FTW. Oreimo was nowhere near harem ending anyway.
yeah, I know that it wasnt a harem ending, it's exactly because of that that I'm craving for one.....
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It wasnt a Kirino ending either, he ended up alone.
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No, he didn't end up alone. Please go and read up upto last ~10 pages on the Oreimo topic in completed section, this discussion is there somewhere. Alternatively, go read up on AnimeSuki Oreimo LN discussion topic about this, similar discussion there, though it would be harder to find there since it has a looot of pages and that discussion was done sometime ago. Or, you can go to Chaos'(Oreimo's TL) talk page to read his review on volume 12 and Oreimo in general, or my review on the Oreimo project talk page.
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Re: So, Incest ending impossibru?

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Rohan123 wrote:
Spoiler! :
No, he didn't end up alone. Please go and read up upto last ~10 pages on the Oreimo topic in completed section, this discussion is there somewhere. Alternatively, go read up on AnimeSuki Oreimo LN discussion topic about this, similar discussion there, though it would be harder to find there since it has a looot of pages and that discussion was done sometime ago. Or, you can go to Chaos'(Oreimo's TL) talk page to read his review on volume 12 and Oreimo in general, or my review on the Oreimo project talk page.
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You're talking about that 'hint' stuff that the author did? about that last kiss? I've read enough of that already. anyway I'm not going to start a discussion about Oreimo here. I only mentioned Oreimo because it was the last ending that I read and it wasnt a harem end. That's all.
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Urgalicious wrote:Well, it has been about half a year since I read the first 7 volumes (which are the only ones I have read, so please forgive my lack of knowledge for recent events), so I am sorry if I sound like an idiot.

That being said, I am confused on how a Tatsuya x Mayumi ending is considered to be impossible by a few people in the topic. I thought that throughout the series, the author has been hinting towards this ending more than any other.
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To start off, I believe they claimed at some point that Mayumi's family wanted her to marry someone from the 10 families, preferably from the First family. Tatusya is, I think, supposed to be a part of this family (again, I have not read volume 8 yet), which can serve as the first hint for their hook up.

Secondly, the way Mayumi treats Tatsuya, I find, is different than how everyone else treats him. I started thinking this when Tatsuya and Miyuki walked Mayumi home. Judging from everyone's reactions towards him, it can be inferred that everyone views him as an adult. However, Mayumi commented on how childlike (at least I think that is what she said) he was during the walk, which shows how differently she views him than anyone else.

Also, besides Miyuki, Mayumi was the first character we saw Tatsuya interact with in the series. Miyuki, in my eyes, just had a standard, brother-crush introduction that I have seen before. Mayumi's introduction just screams "main heroine" for me. She viewed the Weeds situation differently, was introduced very early, and had a memorable entrance.

For those of you who think he will not choose anyone because hasn't shown any attraction or signs of gaining his emotions back, I seem to recall reading a post about how there are supposed to be at least 20 volumes for this series (please don't ask my to prove this because I doubt I could find it again). That is plenty of time for him to begin developing these sorts of feelings. Personally, I think the longer they put it off, the better. I prefer when romance is taken nice and slow, with the eventual hook up happening at the verrrrrryyyyyy end.
Well, I guess my post ended up become more of a rant than anything else, and lengthy at that. I understand that everyone has different opinions. I also don't think a Mayumi ending is 100% by any means. However, what I don't understand is where the justification for a 0% chance for him to fall in love with anyone else other than his sister, or choosing a path other than her guardian comes from.
Exactly why I think Mayumi is a good fit. She's the only girl other than his sister to make him smile.

His sister might also be a good fit, but honestly, Saegusa is an amazing girl.

I'd be fine if they made it incest, but Dengeki Bunko's policy forbids that.
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All of you are totally forgetting that arranged marriages are quite commonplace within this setting.

Therefore any feelings he may have for any one heroine is totally irrelevant, especially considering how controlling and emotionless the matriarch of his family is. He'll marry whomever she decides for him to marry unless he kills her first.

And frankly, I don't see him ending up with Miyuki no matter how she sees him. Lina also seems very unlikely as she's a foreign military officer and I doubt either nation would like them getting together.
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HD122580 wrote:All of you are totally forgetting that arranged marriages are quite commonplace within this setting.

Therefore any feelings he may have for any one heroine is totally irrelevant, especially considering how controlling and emotionless the matriarch of his family is. He'll marry whomever she decides for him to marry unless he kills her first.

And frankly, I don't see him ending up with Miyuki no matter how she sees him. Lina also seems very unlikely as she's a foreign military officer and I doubt either nation would like them getting together.
and you all forget about Tatsuya's gene is defective for magician.
there is high risk for having a child with a defect.

i doubt he can marry anyone from the magician community.
it's better for him to marry someone outside there. like what happened to Shizuku's parents.
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HD122580 wrote:All of you are totally forgetting that arranged marriages are quite commonplace within this setting.

Therefore any feelings he may have for any one heroine is totally irrelevant, especially considering how controlling and emotionless the matriarch of his family is. He'll marry whomever she decides for him to marry unless he kills her first.

And frankly, I don't see him ending up with Miyuki no matter how she sees him. Lina also seems very unlikely as she's a foreign military officer and I doubt either nation would like them getting together.
Yeah..Everything you said is the thing that definitely isn't gonna happen: Maya has no way to control/order Tatsuya around, when she tried to, it even leaded to a skirmish involving her Night, moreover an arranged marriage would be completely against his first goal of protecting Miyuki.

On the other hand i kind of see Lina as an improbable but possible love interest (arranged marriage) since i see her presence in Japan as a gamble by the Elder and his brother to have Lina/Tatsuya marry.
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what about Mayumi's twin sisters, that was katsuto's wild card.
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kaie08 wrote: Yeah..Everything you said is the thing that definitely isn't gonna happen: Maya has no way to control/order Tatsuya around, when she tried to, it even leaded to a skirmish involving her Night, moreover an arranged marriage would be completely against his first goal of protecting Miyuki.

On the other hand i kind of see Lina as an improbable but possible love interest (arranged marriage) since i see her presence in Japan as a gamble by the Elder and his brother to have Lina/Tatsuya marry.
Love DoSiDo with Mayumi vs Lina vs Miyuki vs Mayumi's sisters. Bwhahaha!
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Harddisk wrote:
HD122580 wrote:All of you are totally forgetting that arranged marriages are quite commonplace within this setting.

Therefore any feelings he may have for any one heroine is totally irrelevant, especially considering how controlling and emotionless the matriarch of his family is. He'll marry whomever she decides for him to marry unless he kills her first.

And frankly, I don't see him ending up with Miyuki no matter how she sees him. Lina also seems very unlikely as she's a foreign military officer and I doubt either nation would like them getting together.
and you all forget about Tatsuya's gene is defective for magician.
there is high risk for having a child with a defect.

i doubt he can marry anyone from the magician community.
it's better for him to marry someone outside there. like what happened to Shizuku's parents.

everyone want his decomposition. his decomposition is also stronger than Maya's
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Only that nobody but a few select knows about his decomposition. I doubt that even the elder knows about this ability even so he knows about Tatsuya being a Yotsuba.
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Azyrion wrote:Only that nobody but a few select knows about his decomposition. I doubt that even the elder knows about this ability even so he knows about Tatsuya being a Yotsuba.
so even in the future the secret will keep forever ?
then he won't marry anyone if he keep secret forever.
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Breakers wrote:
Azyrion wrote:Only that nobody but a few select knows about his decomposition. I doubt that even the elder knows about this ability even so he knows about Tatsuya being a Yotsuba.
so even in the future the secret will keep forever ?
then he won't marry anyone if he keep secret forever.
Well the Yotsuba definitely won't let him desclose his magic(which could change if Miyuki becomes the clan head) and additionally his decomposition magic Mist dispersal and anything related to it like MB is also a military secret.
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HD122580 wrote:All of you are totally forgetting that arranged marriages are quite commonplace within this setting.
As long as he's the assigned guardian of Miyuki, we can safely say that he will not be forced into an arrange marriage, since marriage would in some way hinder his goal: to protect Miyuki.
Breakers wrote:
Azyrion wrote:Only that nobody but a few select knows about his decomposition. I doubt that even the elder knows about this ability even so he knows about Tatsuya being a Yotsuba.
so even in the future the secret will keep forever ?
then he won't marry anyone if he keep secret forever.
Tatsuya said before (I forgot what volume) that he will reveal himself to the world after graduating. I'm assuming that includes him revealing that he's a part of the Yotsuba, Silver Taurus, and a Special Lieutenant of the Independent Magic Battalion.

Regarding the incest ending: I'm all for it, though I wouldn't be mad if he ends up with anyone (Yes, even Fujibayashi) since all of the girls are likeable. Perhaps we can finally see a "true" harem ending? :lol:
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Harddisk wrote:
HD122580 wrote:All of you are totally forgetting that arranged marriages are quite commonplace within this setting.

Therefore any feelings he may have for any one heroine is totally irrelevant, especially considering how controlling and emotionless the matriarch of his family is. He'll marry whomever she decides for him to marry unless he kills her first.

And frankly, I don't see him ending up with Miyuki no matter how she sees him. Lina also seems very unlikely as she's a foreign military officer and I doubt either nation would like them getting together.
and you all forget about Tatsuya's gene is defective for magician.
there is high risk for having a child with a defect.

i doubt he can marry anyone from the magician community.
it's better for him to marry someone outside there. like what happened to Shizuku's parents.
Except the Yotsuba bloodline doesn't pass on their individual abilities. Their children will either have mental interference type magic or a sort of non-systemic magic(can't really remember the second type...) so there is no guarantee that any of his children will inherit a similarly highly specialized magic calculation area like his. He also has a vast psion count which makes him great magician stock despite it no longer being a factor in magic ranking(that could change by the end of the series).
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Vexacion wrote: He also has a vast psion count which makes him great magician stock despite it no longer being a factor in magic ranking(that could change by the end of the series).
Personally, that's why I find the new magic ranking system which ignores Psion Count to be retarded. Sure, speed is lethal, but Gram Demolition is OP. And only those with S-ranked Psion counts can reliably and repeatedly use Gram Demolition.
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