Monogatari Series

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Re: Monogatari Series

Postby Oak-tree » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:15 am

fantwell wrote:Hi all,

I think this is the right place top post this, as I can't ask directly on the translation project wiki page since apparently my IP is a proxy (??). Anyway, what in the world is the status of this series?

I've been following this project for.... I don't even know how long but at least since 2011 when all that was available were the first few chapters of Hitagi Crab. It's obviously one of the most popular franchises out there right now (look at all the seasons of anime it's gotten), and has been for a while, and yet there seems to be essentially 0 progress or motivation by anyone to actually translate these novels? Am I missing something here?

I read Neko white and black over 2 years ago and today I come back to BT to check in and they still seem to be the most recent fully translated novels? Should I just give up hope that the remaining 10 books will ever be translated? What's the point of having such an elaborate project page if no one is actually updating anything substantial? Why are like 3 or 4 chapters out of 40 translated for every book instead of consistent progress with no gaps?

Sorry if I come off as an accusatory free-loader, but it's seriously baffling to me. It doesn't make sense that such a popular, amazing series with such great material is languishing untranslated with hardly anything but a bunch of chapter numbers in a bullet list to show for the last several years. I really just want to know if I missing something.

Thanks if you know anything.


I guess as a person who added recent updates on this series on it's page I must answer on this one.

> what in the world is the status of this series?
It's being translated. Aaaand it's not. You see - there are such things as loss of interest to the series, not much of self-confidence, laziness and lack of knowlege. These things are usually the main reasons why translations of this series are dropped. They are time-consuming, sometimes hard to translate because of Nisio's puns which understandable ONLY for Japanese readers and it's hard to translate it to english. And when translators faced with this sort of problems - they tend to prefer something less difficult, like fan-service VN about Mahou Shoujo (yeah, I'm taking a dig at Ougi Formula translator) or just read books and lose interest in translation (some of my acquaintances). And it's common not only for Monogatari Series - but for other Nisio Isin's books as well, like Zaregoto (and it's prequels), Himeiden, Risuka and Katanagatari (and also it's audio-novel prequel).
Ah, and sometimes there is this "It's will be animated/was animated, so there is no point in translation after all".

So, for now only one book is still being translated - Koyomimonogatari. It's not my translation, I'm just uploading it on this site, because it's the most famous among people who seek translations of Japanese LNs, with permission of the author of this translation, of course. Everything else - is dropped.

>I don't even know how long but at least since 2011 when all that was available were the first few chapters of Hitagi Crab.
And I was looking for this series since then.
Every day I look for any new translation of Nisio's works. Sometimes it's a big luck like it was with Otorimonogatari (Yeah, I will upload the rest of the book soon) but as a rule - there is nothing. And occasionaly I stumble upon some half-translated chapters (like Owarimonogatari 3) or even short stories (Princess beauty) and upload it here on this site (which is difficult, because in my country it's in a black list because of some of the covers of the LN's, so it's hard to get here).

>that such a popular, amazing series with such great material is languishing untranslated with hardly anything but a bunch of chapter numbers in a bullet list to show for the last several years.
A number people were trying to translate it, as far as I know - during their study of Japanese. Monogatari Series is very good when you want to study language with it. Difficult, but good.

You should not give up hope. One day they will be translated. Once there will be a big, faithful translator who will translate them, like Oregairu Series has, with Kyakka - we will be able to read them. But it's now even more difficult - with this series being officially translated, starting with Kizumonogatari. Some people just say 'Nah, they will delete all of my work" and turn around, and go to translate some more fan-service novels and games. Or some will be smart and translate the last books of the series and short stories which will never be officially translated because of lazy and lacking Aniplex US releases.

I hope I explained everything. And sorry for my horrible english.
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Please fix the chapters in the novel of Monogatari Series.

Postby taeJiro » Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:20 am

I am a new light novel reader and my friend suggested that i use your app. I am currently reading the monogaari series and it has an awful lot of missing chapters.
I then decided to just skip the missing chapters but while reading the Nisemonogatari chapter, I noticed that the hrammar had dramatically changed. There are severe grammatical errors and i just cant seem to just ignore them. The whole chapter seems like it was just copy-pasted to Google Translate and posted as the english translation. Please fix the grammatical errors and supply the missing chapters. Thanks, and good day!

p.s. i can actually fix those chapters with grammatical errors but i dont want to exert effort if I can't be sure that it will be actually posted as the official translation, so please contact me if you'd like my help.
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Re: Please fix the chapters in the novel of Monogatari Serie

Postby Cthaeh » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:58 pm

taeJiro wrote:p.s. i can actually fix those chapters with grammatical errors but i dont want to exert effort if I can't be sure that it will be actually posted as the official translation, so please contact me if you'd like my help.

The version that's on the wiki is the "official" version (it's the only version), and anyone is welcome/encouraged to fix simple grammar errors and typos there freely, without needing to notify anyone or ask permission. Fixing awkward/unclear wording sometimes requires major edits, for which it's generally best to contact the translator. In this case, I'm not sure that the translator frequents the forums (I haven't checked if they're active on the site either).

So yes, if you fixed things then those changes would be kept (not sure how the reader app works, you'd probably have to hit reload/refresh in the reader app for those changes to make it from the wiki to the reader app on your device). At least assuming Vertical doesn't start releasing the rest of the Monogatari series. If they did, then the entire translation would get taken down.


And just a side note so you don't get the wrong idea, I'm not really involved in this project, despite the fact I'm answering (giving you info on general baka-tsuki procedure); like many of the projects without an active project manager, there's not really anyone in charge of the project, just people who contribute in passing.
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Re: Monogatari Series

Postby Electrician » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:29 pm

I wanted to say thanks to the people who made and worked on this page. Reading the first few chapters of bakemonogatari; kizumonogatari, and the short novels was a great experience. I can imagine that it must've taken a lot of time to translate those. It's unfortunate that there haven't been the most of updates recently, but I'm still very grateful for the work up untill now nonetheless. It may sound a little crazy, but reading those translations is still my favorite reading experience ever!
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Re: Monogatari Series

Postby evoeden » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:45 am

Why few Kizu chapters are back ?
Isn't it being licenced ?
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Re: Monogatari Series

Postby hawkpich » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:20 pm

hi, I am pretty new to the Monogatari series and after watching almost all of monogatari second season i wanted to read the books after finding out what happens to hachikuji mayoi i had to see if she comes back, that being said there are no chapters available in English on the website so after some research if found a website with a few chapters translated. I don't know if this is new knowledge or a legit translation i just would like to help everyone else who wants to read the chapters like i do i will link the website with the chapters below
https://tarabletranslation.wordpress.com/category/monogatari-series/
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Re: Monogatari Series

Postby Oak-tree » Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:38 am

hawkpich wrote:hi, I am pretty new to the Monogatari series and after watching almost all of monogatari second season i wanted to read the books after finding out what happens to hachikuji mayoi i had to see if she comes back, that being said there are no chapters available in English on the website so after some research if found a website with a few chapters translated. I don't know if this is new knowledge or a legit translation i just would like to help everyone else who wants to read the chapters like i do i will link the website with the chapters below
https://tarabletranslation.wordpress.com/category/monogatari-series/

Hello! Since nobody answered, I'll answer. I'll add these chapters to the main page. And I hope there will be more.
If you're really want to know what happened with her next - I advice you to search for Owarimonogatari 3 spoilers and watch Koyomimonogatari anime.
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Re: Monogatari Series

Postby ShadowfoxEX » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:39 pm

For no reason in particular, when can someone finish the series
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Re: Monogatari Series

Postby R~S » Tue May 17, 2016 9:57 am

The first volume of Bakemonogatari will be released in english by Vertical on December 20th, the next volume following on January 31st 2017.
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