Zero no Tsukaima Names and Terminology
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Re: Zero no Tsukaima Names and Terminology
To be quite honest, the Japanese are the last people you should ever look to for an accurate spelling.
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Re: Zero no Tsukaima Names and Terminology
OK, got it, so Gandalfr and Tristain . now i got another thing. about Book 6 Ch.7:
the title name is ダータルネスの幻影. translated it was "The Illusion of ダータルネス". the word is almost the same as ダーダネルス海峡.
so, could it be that way? like "the Illusion of Dardanell/Dardanel/Dartanel or something? Dardanelles strait is in Turkey. the door, if not the same, to Holy Land, for the Crusadees (don't know if it is well written, but the ones who went to the Crusades). it seems this part of History in the novel, since they (halkeginians) want to regain land from elves (who I assume are arabs or sth like that [just note the supposed-to-be Saito's motherland, sth with &%·& al Karyie]). so i guess that is a very hot place, and maybe that illusion is like a hallucination... but since I haven't read that volume yet, i don't know whether it is a place or a person ('cause it can be the name of the ex-subordinate of Colbert, the one who sense warmth from people, u know)... but plz take my note into account
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EDIT: well, now that chapter 7 has already been fully released, ダータルネス is a place.
the title name is ダータルネスの幻影. translated it was "The Illusion of ダータルネス". the word is almost the same as ダーダネルス海峡.
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EDIT: well, now that chapter 7 has already been fully released, ダータルネス is a place.
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Re: Zero no Tsukaima Names and Terminology
Yeah... I'm especially all over the place with place/city names... I've pretty much just used it from past chapters... and fuddled my way through the new ones. The chinese translations have pronounciations so far from english that it's amazing how they even sound similar sometimes
I was wondering if an editor could kindly post some sort of unified guideline for the cities and places that's popped up?
I was wondering if an editor could kindly post some sort of unified guideline for the cities and places that's popped up?
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And whats wrong with Dartanes? Specially because I translated the name separately from the other translator and only then noticed that our both name translation of Dartanes match which means that it indeed should be read this way.
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I didn't mean "Dartanes" is wrong. I'm only saying that, as an historical place, which seems to be this, its name must be sth like that. Dartanes is also close, but not enough, i think. let the mods plz decide it firstly. then we argue. any mod?? and can be opened another Unified Guidelines for Names and Places, plz mods?? for us not to have different words versions.
I didn't get that.. could be plz more concise? I realized the name from the romaji of ダータルネス (daatarunesu). yes, both names match, but let's have a mod-opinion
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Darknemo2000 wrote: Specially because I translated the name separately from the other translator and only then noticed that our both name translation of Dartanes match which means that it indeed should be read this way.
I didn't get that.. could be plz more concise? I realized the name from the romaji of ダータルネス (daatarunesu). yes, both names match, but let's have a mod-opinion
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I think you are misunderstanding Macko Darlack. Mods do not have time to care about such minor issues. It is usually decided between editors and translators. And since two translators already use the term i do not see how it is wrong specially because our translations matched.
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Okay, I'm going to start compiling a naming convention and I'll post it on the Forums when I'm finished. I'll be reading all the ZnT forums and guidlines, etc, to try and make it. Anyway, If you have any suggestions, make them known now
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Here is all the naming Conventions that have been discussed/posted on this forum so far, and I suppose what should be used.
Names:
Louise Françoise Le Blanc de la Vallière
Hiraga Saito
Kirche Augusta Frederica von Anhalt Zerbst (Her Farmiliar is "Flame")
Siesta
Tabitha (Tabitha the Snowstorm)
Sylphid (Wind Rhyme Dragon)
Guiche de Gramont (Guiche the Bronze)
Verdandi
Valkyrie
Montmorency Margarita la Fère de Montmorency
Robin
Malicorne (Malicorne the Windward)
Old Osman
Motsognir
Longueville (Fouquet the Crumbling Dirt)
Colbert (Colbert the Flame Serpent)
Chevreuse (Chevreuse the Red Clay)
Marteau
Pelisson
Styx
Minican
Ajax
Gimli
Captain Wardes
Prince Wales Tudor of Albion
Princess Henrietta
Cardinal Mazarin
Agnes
Eleonore
Cattleya
Jessica
Scarron
Gandalfr
Cromwell
Sheffield
General Hawkings (Albion General)
Stix (Malicorne's upperclassman aboard the ship)
Bowood (Captured Albion captain POW)
Poitiers (Tristain General)
Ermm... not sure of translation for Germania's general
Charlotte (Tabitha's true name)
Terms:
Founder Brimir
Tristain Academy of Magic
Alvíss Dining Hall
Fenrir's Library
Vestri Courtyard
Bourdonné Street
La Rochelle
Summon Servant
Contract Servant
The Bell of Slumber
Void
Familiar of Void
Lord Spee's Sword
Ecu Gold
New Gold
Staff of Destruction (M72 Rocket Launcher)
Zero Fighter (Dragon's Raiment)
Delflinger
Varsenda (Tristain capital ship)
Redoubtable (Tristain battle ship)
Places:
La Rochelle
Marie Grande
Scarborough
Newcastle
Albion
Halkeginia
Kingdom of Tristain
Germania
Dartanes
Romalia
Gallia
Cities
Tristainia
Rosais (Albion Port)
Londonium (Albion capital)
Tarbes (Tristain town that was attacked)
South Gotha (Albion castle/town)
This is what we have so far. Please post any changes to this list you may have, and add new ones, and then I'll make a Wiki page for it so people can have a place that's organized for them to check the conventions. (Similar to how Spice and Wolf has the naming conventions section)
Added Edits:
Zero Figther - Saito's Plane. Is there any other way this should be said? "Dragon's Raiment"
Also added in Xorius's updates.
Names:
Louise Françoise Le Blanc de la Vallière
Hiraga Saito
Kirche Augusta Frederica von Anhalt Zerbst (Her Farmiliar is "Flame")
Siesta
Tabitha (Tabitha the Snowstorm)
Sylphid (Wind Rhyme Dragon)
Guiche de Gramont (Guiche the Bronze)
Verdandi
Valkyrie
Montmorency Margarita la Fère de Montmorency
Robin
Malicorne (Malicorne the Windward)
Old Osman
Motsognir
Longueville (Fouquet the Crumbling Dirt)
Colbert (Colbert the Flame Serpent)
Chevreuse (Chevreuse the Red Clay)
Marteau
Pelisson
Styx
Minican
Ajax
Gimli
Captain Wardes
Prince Wales Tudor of Albion
Princess Henrietta
Cardinal Mazarin
Agnes
Eleonore
Cattleya
Jessica
Scarron
Gandalfr
Cromwell
Sheffield
General Hawkings (Albion General)
Stix (Malicorne's upperclassman aboard the ship)
Bowood (Captured Albion captain POW)
Poitiers (Tristain General)
Ermm... not sure of translation for Germania's general
Charlotte (Tabitha's true name)
Terms:
Founder Brimir
Tristain Academy of Magic
Alvíss Dining Hall
Fenrir's Library
Vestri Courtyard
Bourdonné Street
La Rochelle
Summon Servant
Contract Servant
The Bell of Slumber
Void
Familiar of Void
Lord Spee's Sword
Ecu Gold
New Gold
Staff of Destruction (M72 Rocket Launcher)
Zero Fighter (Dragon's Raiment)
Delflinger
Varsenda (Tristain capital ship)
Redoubtable (Tristain battle ship)
Places:
La Rochelle
Marie Grande
Scarborough
Newcastle
Albion
Halkeginia
Kingdom of Tristain
Germania
Dartanes
Romalia
Gallia
Cities
Tristainia
Rosais (Albion Port)
Londonium (Albion capital)
Tarbes (Tristain town that was attacked)
South Gotha (Albion castle/town)
This is what we have so far. Please post any changes to this list you may have, and add new ones, and then I'll make a Wiki page for it so people can have a place that's organized for them to check the conventions. (Similar to how Spice and Wolf has the naming conventions section)
Added Edits:
Zero Figther - Saito's Plane. Is there any other way this should be said? "Dragon's Raiment"
Also added in Xorius's updates.
Last edited by Krikit on Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:23 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Zero no Tsukaima Names and Terminology
How about Saito's plane? if that should be included that is? (not translator for ZnT so i am not sure)
龍的羽衣? i believe that is the name they call it?
龍的羽衣? i believe that is the name they call it?
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Re: Zero no Tsukaima Names and Terminology
First of all, these are suggestions to find out the proper terms (e.g. Don't use these since they might be wrong) since some of 'em are guesses of mine.
Names:
Cromwell
Sheffield
General Hawkings (Albion General)
Stix (Malicorne's upperclassman aboard the ship)
Bowood (Captured Albion captain POW)
Poitiers (Tristain General)
Ermm... not sure of translation for Germania's general
Charlotte (Tabitha's true name)
Objects:
Delflinger
Varsenda (Tristain capital ship)
Redoubtable (Tristain battle ship)
Places:
Romalia
Gallia
Cities:
Tristainia
Rosais (Albion Port)
Londonium (Albion capital)
Tarbes (Tristain town that was attacked)
South Gotha (Albion castle/town)
PS. As for the Zero's 'magical' name, it's Dragon's Raiment or something according to wiki right? As for its normal name, its simply Zero in the chinese text. And I'd like to just add that Dartanes was used by me by referring to Darknemo's chapter. I think through the various chapters, its listed alternately so far as: Talnis, Taldanis, Dartanes... e.g. PERSONALLY, absolutely no clue what on earth their actual names are...
On another note, if someone would like to post their intepretations of the names of the Dragon Knights in volume 7 as well as the name of the Germanian general... it would make my life as a translator alot easier. I don't trust my chinese translation's intepretation of the names... it's such bastardised english I have a hard time even converting the known ones! (e.g. seriously, Kirche in chinese sounds nothing like kirche... )
Names:
Cromwell
Sheffield
General Hawkings (Albion General)
Stix (Malicorne's upperclassman aboard the ship)
Bowood (Captured Albion captain POW)
Poitiers (Tristain General)
Ermm... not sure of translation for Germania's general
Charlotte (Tabitha's true name)
Objects:
Delflinger
Varsenda (Tristain capital ship)
Redoubtable (Tristain battle ship)
Places:
Romalia
Gallia
Cities:
Tristainia
Rosais (Albion Port)
Londonium (Albion capital)
Tarbes (Tristain town that was attacked)
South Gotha (Albion castle/town)
PS. As for the Zero's 'magical' name, it's Dragon's Raiment or something according to wiki right? As for its normal name, its simply Zero in the chinese text. And I'd like to just add that Dartanes was used by me by referring to Darknemo's chapter. I think through the various chapters, its listed alternately so far as: Talnis, Taldanis, Dartanes... e.g. PERSONALLY, absolutely no clue what on earth their actual names are...
On another note, if someone would like to post their intepretations of the names of the Dragon Knights in volume 7 as well as the name of the Germanian general... it would make my life as a translator alot easier. I don't trust my chinese translation's intepretation of the names... it's such bastardised english I have a hard time even converting the known ones! (e.g. seriously, Kirche in chinese sounds nothing like kirche... )
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Anies or Agnes? I used Agnes in all of my chapters. No editors edited the name.
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Okay, then I'll be editing the post for Agnes. (silent 'g' I take it?)
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Literally it reads as in Aniesu but you can also read it as Agniesu (which would be Agnes or Agnies). I think just the name Agnes suits more the character of her rather than Anies. Has bit tougher sounding to it.
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It is a Zero fighter...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A6M_Zero
That is the reason why it is called "Zero".
That is, if the name given for the plane described is correct
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A6M_Zero
That is the reason why it is called "Zero".
That is, if the name given for the plane described is correct
God!!
You need not forgive me.
For those I love,
The violence brought about by sinful men
Shall now be used once more.
If you were created to save this world,
If there is a single shred of hope left for the future of mankind,
I am very sorry, but, please begone!
You need not forgive me.
For those I love,
The violence brought about by sinful men
Shall now be used once more.
If you were created to save this world,
If there is a single shred of hope left for the future of mankind,
I am very sorry, but, please begone!