It's now the next day. 

The fact that even I who can't see can tell the arrival of the morning is a small but satisfying discovery. Little things like that are a cause for joy. While I wondered why they made me happy my morning check-up began and ended before I knew it. 

It wasn't very quiet in the afternoon, because my mother and brother came to visit me. Our conversation wasn't very smooth as they felt like strangers to me. With no alternatives I answered their questions according to Shiki's memories, as a result of which my mother went home with an easy mind. 

Everything was funny because it seemed like I was acting. 

*** 

When the evening came around the counselor showed up. 

The woman who initially introduced herself as a speech therapist as so bright and cheerful that I couldn't see any depth to her personality. 

I've never heard of a case where a doctor greeted a patient with the words "Hi, how have you been?" 

"Oh, I thought you would be all emaciated but the vibrance of your skin is no joke. You know, when I first heard your story I pictured something along the lines of a ghost under a cherry tree so I didn't really feel like coming. But hey, you are a cute a lady along my line a fancy so it's my lucky day!" 

The woman who I reckon to be in her late twenties judging by her voice sits down in the chair next to the bed I'm lying in. 

"Pleased to meet you. I'm the speech therapist who is to help you get over your Aphasia. I'm not a resident doctor here so I don't have any ID, but I guess it won't be a problem since you can't see anyway." 

"--- Aphasia? Me?" 

After finally getting a reply the doctor goes oho and I got the feeling she nodded her head as well. 

"There you go, it's normal to show anger. After all Aphasia isn't a very good image and in your case it's a misdiagnoses. Asika-kun is a text-book doctor so he's a bit weak when it comes to special cases like yours. Even so you are being naughty. People are getting such misconceptions because you can't be bothered answering them." 

The woman smiles as if she is great friends with me. --- It was totally my own opinion but I decided then and there that this was a person who wore glasses. 

"So they think I have Aphasia." 

"Yeah, since you did hurt your brain in the accident they are wondering if your speech circuits are damaged or something. However thats a misconception, the reason for your silence isn't physiological but psychological isn't it? So it's not Aphasia, just you being stubborn. In that case my role isn't needed but it feels bad to be cut before a minute has passed, and since my main job is idle for once I'll play with you for a bit." 

--- This is a useless act of kindness. 

I reach out for the button that calls the nurse, but the lady doctor quickly removes it from my reach. 

"... You." 

"Dangerous, dangerous. If you talk to Asika-kun now I'll be kicked out straight away. Anyway isn't this good? If you pretend to have Aphasia, you won't have to reply to useless questions. It's better this way right?" 

... That's correct. But who is this person that can say such things so boldly. 

I turn my bandaged eyes towards the unknown lady doctor. 

"You are not a doctor are you?" 

"Nope, my main job's a sorceress." 

That's so absurd I let out a sigh. 

"I don't have any business with a sorceress." 

"Ahahaha, that's correct. A magician can't fix that hole in your chest. The only thing that can fill it is a normal person." 

"--- a hole, in my chest ---?" 

"Yeah, you should be feeling it. That you are alone now." 

The lady doctor smothers a laugh and stands up. I can hear her arranging the chairs and her footsteps as she goes out. 

"I think it's still too early so let's leave it at this for now. I'll come again tomorrow, bye!" 

After appearing so abruptly, she leaves just as abruptly. 

I touch my lips with the right hand that I have difficulty moving. 

Now... Alone... 

A hole... in my chest... 

--- Oh, how can this be. 

Oh no, I hadn't realized. 

No one. No matter where I call he's not there. The existence called Ryougi SHIKI that existed within Ryougi Shiki has disappeared without a trace. 

Shiki was a dual personality disorder sufferer who possessed another personality within herself. Inside the Ryougi family children with two personalities were born genetically. That which would be shunned in a normal family was instead celebrated as being the traits of a transcendent being and the bearers were treated as the true heirs of the family. 

... Shiki inherited that blood. It was the reason Shiki went past her older brother to become the heir to the Shiki family. 

But this kind of thing doesn't happen very often. 

Two personalities --- Yang affinity males and Yin affinity females, between those the leadership of the Yang affinity male is usually stronger. Among the few true Ryougi heirs till now, all had been born as men and had female personalities inside. But due to some mistake Shiki was the reverse of the norm. 

Inside the female Shiki was included the male SHIKI. 

The one with dominance over the body was the female Shiki --- me. 

SHIKI was my minus face, he contained my suppressed emotions. Shiki grew up suppressing the darkness called SHIKI. Time after time she killed the self called SHIKI and lived pretending to be normal. SHIKI didn't seem to have any complaints about that. After being asleep inside of me he woke up for things like sword training and took charge while complaining as if it was annoying. 

... It might seem like a master/servant relationship but the reality wasn't like that. In the end Shiki and SHIKI are one person, so Shiki's actions are SHIKI's, and SHIKI suppressing his own fancies was also Shiki's wish as well. 

... Yes, SHIKI was a murderer. As far as I know he had no experience at it but, he had a desire within him to kill those beings called humans that were the same organism as him. The dominant personality of Shiki ignored this, in short she forbid it. 

Shiki and SHIKI were inseparable beings although they ignored each other. Shiki was lonely but because of the self called SHIKI she wasn't alone. 

But the time came when that relationship would be destroyed. 

Two years ago --- when Shiki was a 1st year high school student. The season when for the first time SHIKI, who until then hadn't wanted to use the body, had asked to go out of his own volition. 

From there Shiki's memory is hazy. 

Right now I can't bring to mind any of Shiki's memories from 1st year of high school until I was involved in the accident. 

The thing I remember --- my shape standing at the site of the murder. More than that, there's an image that I can remember even more clearly than that. 

The classroom burning red in the light of the sunset. 

The one who destroyed Shiki, my classmate. 

The boy, that Shiki wanted to kill. 

The piece of normality, that Shiki wanted to protect. 

I got the feeling that I knew this a long time ago. 

But the me that has woken from a long sleep, his name is the one thing I can't yet remember. 

*** 

Night falls, and the hospital grows quiet. 

Only the occasional sound of slippers echoing through the corridors makes me feel that I'm awake. 

Inside the darkness --- no because I'm in the darkness. The blind me, I take to heart the fact that I'm alone. If I was the previous Shiki, I wouldn't have had this kind of feeling. Shiki who had another self inside her. But SHIKI no longer exists. No --- I, I don't even know whether I'm Shiki or SHIKI. 

SHIKI had disappeared from inside me. With that along I am recognizing myself as Shiki. 

"Hic hic... What kind of contradiction is this. Not knowing which side one is if one side is missing." 

I try talking to myself but the emptiness in my chest doesn't even fill a little. Even just the thought that I am sad would have some change on this emotionless mind of mine. 

I won't be able to know. 

Since I am no one, I can't feel that Ryougi Shiki's memories are really mine. Even if the shell called Ryougi Shiki exists if the contents are washed away the shell has no meaning. .... Oh it hurts. What must go inside this empty cave? 

"--- I, will, go, in..." 

Suddenly I hear words like that. 

A movement of the air as if a door has opened. 

''It's probably my imagination'', with that I turn my shut eyes that way. 

There's --- something there. 

White smoke is blowing around. My eyes that shouldn't be able to see can see the shape of the smoke. The smoke strangely resembled a human, no it seemed as if a human lacked bones and was swaying in the wind like a sunflower. 

The unpleasant smoke comes straight at me. 

I can't move as I like yet so I just blankly waited for it. 

Even if this is a ghost, I'm not afraid. 

The really scary things have no shape. No matter how weird something is, if it has a form I can't be scared. 

And --- if it is a ghost, the current me may as well be the same. After all there's not much difference between a thing that isn't alive and me who has no reason to live. 

The smoke slapped me. 

My whole body and mind goes into overdrive. The chill that flows down my spine is as sharp as a bird's talons. 

It was an unpleasant sensation but I just dumbly sat there and watched. After touching me for ages, the smoke melted like a snail sprinkled with salt. 

The reason is simple. It's five hours since the smoke started touching me. It will soon be 5 o'clock. The ghost melted because it's now morning. 

Since I hadn't slept, I decided to go to sleep again from now.

Talk:Clannad:Guidelines

2007-02-13T21:34:47Z

218.186.8.13: removed a dumb question by myself

== Digits, Interjections, thinking words, shouts/screams and action words ==
I would like to clarify on some of the translation guidelines.

Firstly, do we substitute Arabic numerals on the original text for half-width digits (e.g. 20) or their English equivalents (Twenty)? If it had not been decided, I would suggest that we stick to digits for convention, clarity and conciseness. For kanji numerals, I'd rather we use English words.

In the translations I have seen, interjections were mostly substituted beautifully, but there were several crude ones, and some of those were translated in other ways for other scenarios.

May I suggest to translators and editors:

あの, ano -> Um

え, e -> Eh (repeated えs would be Eeeeh etc.)

ああ, aa -> Ya / K' / Yea / Aah (depending on context)

あ, a -> Ah

えっと, etto -> Erm / Err

っ, 'sokuon' -> ' (e.g. 「えっ？」 -> "Eh'?" , but only when the situation allows) (refer to the Yorkshire accent part on glottal stops in Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glottal_stop])

For those at the end of sentences:

よ, ね, な, ぞ etc. -> huh / not? / (nothing, for when it is an integral part of the sentence, i.e. sounds awkward without it) / reflected in the sentence as

だろう, だろ -> I wonder / I guess / right? / not? / probably / it is probable

I believe the rest have more obvious equivalents in English, and won't have much trouble integrating.

In the topic of screams, as they usually hold no meaning, might I suggest substituting them word for word (Hepburn romanization with kana spelling) with the ー, chouon substituted for a dash, small vowels as their english equivalent (I have thought of substituting large vowels with caps, but wouldn't it lose some aesthetic quality?) and っ with a 'h' where aesthetic standards allow.

For action words that occupy a single line, may I suggest the format as per in the following example, :''もぐもぐ… *mogu mogu, munch munch''

I used the above format for action words in sentences like じっと、そこを見た during my translation draft (which was only at its third day as per this project's founding, despite that I started it near the end of December). However, I find it sloppy when nested in sentences, and I guess it also breaks the flow of the script. Please criticize this suggestions mercilessly.[[User:Jc100|Jc100]] 03:34, 6 February 2007 (PST)

: I agree with most of the conventions used above, albeit with a few minor changes:
: - 'mogu mogu' should just be 'munch, munch'
: - IRJustman and I would like to go with using just words for numbers (e.g., five), unless it comes to maybe 10-yen coins. Not like someone can say "one million yen", right, as opposed to "1,000,000 yen"?
: - screams we'll have to think about, it's kind of hard to romanize say, Sunohara's ひぃぃぃぃぃぃ！！
: - most of the stuff above is freeform, so like you said, will depend on context.
: [[User:Velocity7|velocity7]] 10:09, 6 February 2007 (EST)

: Ditto with velocity7. But I think the interjection translations should be guidelines; translators should retain free rein in using alternatives to naturalise/normalise the speech. Same goes for wild random screaming, this should be translator's call?
: More importantly, characters need to sound consistent throughout the game. Either this should be handled by QC, or translators can route-specialise. Or something; i'm new to this game.
: American English, or British English?
: --[[User:Kwok|Kwok]] 05:40, 13 February 2007 (PST)

== Naming ==
May I suggest adding a Female Youth name as a translation for 少女, shoujo, as a name title especially for the first Kotomi scene. At that first meeting, Tomoya was not too fond of her, hence the more formal name (albeit more conventional, in my opinion), even though name titles are not actually supposed to reflect relations.[[User:Jc100|Jc100]] 03:34, 6 February 2007 (PST)

I'm inclined to follow your suggestion too, but will there be space constraints? Also, 'Female Youth' sounds rather detached and unemotional for a guy's thoughts, so would 'Girl' be simpler and sweeter? It's more casual and normalise the scenario that way. Same for shounen; we could call them "Guy".--[[User:Kwok|Kwok]] 05:29, 13 February 2007 (PST)

== Punctuation and General Typography ==

In the guidelines page, ellipses were written as '...' (3 periods). However, there exists a special character for groups of 3 ellipses, '…'. This character is also used in the game text. Unless it is due to technical restrictions(which I doubt there is), the second ellipse should be used. That is to distinguish the ellipses from the period following, as per The Chicago Manual of Style[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%A6]. Yes, a period is required after ellipses when writing in English. I would not recommend using a program to substitute periods for this character after translating for fear that it might make some unwanted changes in the text.

There are also other things to take note of. The hyphen at your keyboard is only for hyphens. For dashes, use the following

For a limited range, e.g. '07–15' (haven't encountered any), or prefixing a term e.g. 'pre–World War II', use an en dash '–' (XP users: Alt+0150)

For an open range, e.g. 'Saturday—' an em dash '—'(XP users: Alt+0151)

A word that is cut off halfway (say, when some interrupts your conversation) is denoted by a character more commonly seen in Unicode art (well, it sure isn't ASCII, and it's not Shift-JIS)(part of the box drawing character set). It seems like Key used that character as it did not have gaps when placed consequentially. Long lines are usually multiples of this character too. I would recommend using the horizontal bar '―' (U+2013; ampersand, hash, 8213, semicolon), as it also joins with another itself.

As stated in the previous topic, the chouon is used for creative purposes in shouts and yells. The em dash is an excellent substitution for it.

The full width tilde '～' is used in several instances, like ぐっ～～. Seems like Key used it instead of the more politically correct wave symbol '〜' (they probably didn't know of it's existence). Both are in East Asian character sets. I can't find of any non-Asian character that imitates the full width tilde satisfactorily. Maybe we should default to half width tildes?

There is a quotation dash ⁓ (U+2053; ampersand, hash, 8275, semicolon). However, I currently cannot think of any instance it might be required in the script.
[[User:Jc100|Jc100]] 03:05, 13 February 2007 (PST)

:I understand that there is a love for Unicode characters in the script at the moment. However, if you would all please have a look at [http://dev.haeleth.net/rldev/manual.html#htoc26 this website...]
:You'll notice that I am currently using Western encoding to encode the script with rlBabel. At the time of this writing, this is currently the only way to compile the script so that it looks and works fine. In other words, if the character is not supported under CP1251 or ISO-8859-1, it is not very likely to work. This includes all Japanese characters.

:That's the reasoning for my use of "..." at the moment. For all other characters, they will have to be replaced or modified in some way in order to match up with this. I haven't had time to go look back in scripts to fix this, so if you have time, please feel free to fix them.

:--[[User:Velocity7|velocity7]], February 13, 2007, 8:59 AM EST

CP1252 uses the code point 85 for ellipses, which is unassigned in ISO-8859-1. I'm guessing that this was what Haeleth meant by (ISO-8859-1 with extensions). Why not give it a try?

[[User:Jc100|Jc100]] 12:37, 13 February 2007 (PST)

Talk:Clannad:SEEN3416

2007-02-12T22:18:00Z

218.186.8.13: New page: <0163> She's one of those unconcerned student that talks to me even though they know I'm a delinquent. // 不良のレッテルを貼られている俺相手に、平気に話しかけて...

<0163> She's one of those unconcerned student that talks to me even though they know I'm a delinquent.
// 不良のレッテルを貼られている俺相手に、平気に話しかけてくる数少ない生徒だ。

Shouldn't this be translated into:

"She was labeled as a delinquent; few were able to speak to her without getting tense." ?[[User:218.186.8.13|218.186.8.13]] 14:18, 12 February 2007 (PST)

(ja wikipedia)不良少年である主人公にもためらわず声をかけ、歯に衣着せぬ物言いをする。
"even the delinquent male protagonist hesitates to talk to her,..."

don't you think so?[[User:218.186.8.13|218.186.8.13]] 14:18, 12 February 2007 (PST)