Zetsubou

2007-09-13T22:55:55Z

219.102.58.233: /* Ep 6 */

Well, if I'll fansub something, I want to make the outcome the best quality ever in the fansub scene. D: but, I'm not sure I can hold such a big ambition all the way... I can spend full-time translating Zetsubou-chan..

here is elaborate scheduling for processing for multple episodes, and anyway, my preferences and current status of translation.

I'm an eager supporter for FREE CULTURE. Even if our activities aren't legitimate, we don't need to be REAL evil. so, I'll highly recommend to release with SOFTSUB, a separate ass file and dictation file. As for my translation work, I'll release it under PUBLIC DOMAIN.

My translation is primarily for my learning purpose. How do you motivate me to translate them more eagerly than usual? That's easy. improve my English to sound more usual English. choose my translation suggestion, and preferably, tell me the reason of the choice. tell me some amount(not ""a lot"") of English thingy related the translation work. If I find translating something educational, my motivation for translation is greatly enlarged... D:

== Separation of translation ==
*main part: relating to the main conversation with some related translation notes
*sub part: all of other translation notes, back ground conversation, signs on blackboard, static texts.

== translation process ==
I need some time to break between each phrase to refresh my brain, and spot any mistakes, yet, I can address multiple episodes concurrently....
Also, I don't want to waste meaningless efforts. so, I want to adjust my speed to the pace of the following processes.

===Adding some texts to the OP===
there is some japanese in the OP.. so I think I need to translate it too...

===translating part : Translators(including me) are mainly responsible.===
Even if we want a parallel translation, I think dictations should be done by a native speaker, like me, and mishearing will be eliminated, which is the most cause of mistakes of fansubbing in my experience. but for now, there is no stock of dictations..

*1st pass: dictate the whole episode
**I realized that I need to dictate the script in advance to create the BEST quality translation... D:
***Even if my motivation is all spent at this stage, other translators can utilize this outcome to ease the translation without the possibilities of mishearing.
***Honestly, I don't wanna dictate it, because it's not educational at all.. Even though, I'm not so lazy or baka to make other non japanese native speakers to dictate it instead of me... Hopefully, I can get a japanese native spekaer as a "Dictator"...
*2nd pass: check for the dictation.
*3rd pass: translate "main part"
**prefebrably, at this point, "main part" are roughly timed. so I can easily tlc "main part" at the "2nd pass" and concentrate on tl-ing "sub part". another reason to do that is that seeing progression is a sweet candy.. :D
*4th pass: translate "sub part" and add translation notes with the importance, using the japanese wiki page for Zetsubou-sensei, and tlc "main part" by myself to check the flow of translated conversations.
**tlc-ing "main part" by others are ready..
***but, I'm quite sure there is little japanese-related mistake, but there is many english mistakes...
**"sub part" is also roughtly timed.
*5th pass: final check.
**tlc-ing "sub part" by others are ready...

===QC part===
*tlc
*qc
*release?

the reason I said "roughly" is that it's very likely to chenge the script becaues of my questionable english.. and tlc-ers and qcers have some difficulties to see the ass file.. btw, i dunno how many people can be involved in the quality assurance processes.

my english is questionable so I'll add elaborate editorial alternatives for the translation and explanations.
so, before type-setting any translated text, we should eliminate english problems which is easy for every native speakers, but difficult for me from the plain-text file, and which isn't depending on the story in order to reduce the work of the following TLC and QC.

== "sub part" translating problem ==
I hope someone diligent provide me screenshots for all static texts, otherwise, I'll do it myself...
the images should have the playing time for the ease of type-setting the texts.

Look at [http://www.baka-tsuki.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24728#24728 this forum post]. Smidge has already taking screencaps and is currently looking for a translator to ease the process.

--[[User:Jumpyshoes|Jumpyshoes]] 04:16, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

Oh, thanks.. :D
/me gives a taiyaki to Jumpyshoes and Smidge

--[[User:Akiha|Akiha]] 16:19, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

== About translation notes ==
maybe, I'll add loaded translation notes, because it's likely to notice many japanese-specific cultural references....
maybe, so we have several edition for the track of ass file... that's why I split the script into two part..
#simple edition : only indispensable conversation texts.
#normal edition : simple edition + important translation notes.
#detailed edtion : normal edition + all translation notes.
#japanese edtion: no english subtitles, but japanese translation notes? i wonder we'll go along with this edition.

== ideas for supporting for japanese learners ==
I very want to help japanese learners.
so, I want to add the japanese track to the ass file.
so, I added the dictation in natural japanese and in romaji.

in the past, when I was talking with the_naming_game, we've come to think that it's cool to type-set the various uses of japanese onomatopoeias in anime, because foreigners can sense the atmosphere of them with sounds.

== especially specific to Zetsubou-chan ==
Useful Information resource: http://zetubou.hewl.info/wiki/
We should credit this site into our releases by courtesy of it.

=== style problem ===

ZETUBOUSHITA should be left japanese?
should I use the same saying as the a.f.k. for the itoshiki-sensei's habit of saying?

==== translation table for specific irregular words ====
*"Sensei" -> "Sensei"
**I'll leave english-talented people how to deal with the japanise-ish calling.
*"桃色係長" "Momoiro Kakarichou" -> "Pink Supervisor"

== current status ==
=== Ep 6 ===
*doing "3rd pass". --[[User:Akiha|Akiha]] 20:59, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
*"3rd pass": 80% --[[User:Akiha|Akiha]] 03:53, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
*"3rd pass": completed --[[User:219.102.58.233|219.102.58.233]] 15:55, 13 September 2007 (PDT)

=== Ep 7 ===
being done by Yont.

=== Ep 8 ===
Nothing is done.

=== Ep 9 ===
Nothing is done.

=== Ep 10 ===
Nothing is done.

=== Ep 11 ===
Nothing is done.

=== Ep 12 ===
Nothing is done.

Zetsubou

2007-09-12T21:18:28Z

219.102.58.233: /* translating part : I'm mainly responsible. */

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