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==Feedback and Comments==

Campione! is great, please do your best with it...
{YoshikuniKAITO;13/agust/2011}

...wow, the story looks interesting. I can't help but wait for the next chapter :D - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 21:46, 24 January 2012 (CST)

when Chapter5 will be completed? --[[User:TheRenegade94|TheRenegade94]] 15:21, 17 March 2012 (CDT)

Once the translator, alex, is back. When ''that'' will be... I don't know.--[[User:Kadi|Kadi]] 21:12, 27 March 2012 (CDT)

Aorii u know i really love u???? --[[User:TheRenegade94|TheRenegade94]] 21:50, 9 April 2012 (CDT)

Don't suddenly say something stupid! (ノ゜△゜)ノ~ (;｡▽｡)ヽ save that for the ppl you mean it to -- [[User:Aorii|Aorii]] 05:39, 10 April 2012 (CDT)

When will be v2c7 done ? i simple cant wait for more chapters of this great novel ^^

Translator's working on it. Don't be so impatient...and help us with edits. XD [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:20, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

Translation for v2 is already going very fast so it wont be a very long wait. Prob around the weekend? Lol @ ^[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 18:56, 7 May 2012 (CDT)

So glad that this novel will have an anime adaptation this coming july! another LN to be animated besides <<SAO>> ~ [[User:Ghost|Ghost]] 22:31, 18 May 2012 (UTC + 8)

I don't suppose that it would be possible to get a timeline for the volumes set up? It's getting confusing as to when some of the volumes take place. For instance, I am assuming that vol 12 is taking place some time before vol 10 but I can't say for sure. In any case, thank you for your hard work. It gives me something to look forward to when I wake up or after work. Thanks again,

hello i wanted to know if someone is doing the volume 3??

^ You do know there is a registration page that lists who is going to do what? --[[User:Lighthalzen|Lighthalzen]] 15:40, 27 June 2012 (CDT)

So quick! Volume 5 is going to be finished in no time!? Man, [[User:zzhk|zzhk]] is quite something..... - [[User:SATRIA|SATRIA]]

Thank you very much zzhk. I was already almost thinking, that it won´t be ever translated before you started to work onit. And the speed you are translating with is simply great. I hope your enthusiasm will last and I wish for many other successes.

I hope vol. 3 and 4 be translated soon... --[[User:zerocrack|zerocrack]]

Thank you very much zzhk. I was already almost thinking, that it won´t be ever translated before you started to work onit. And the speed you are translating with is simply great. I hope your enthusiasm will last and I wish for many other successes. [[User:KaprJarda|KaprJarda]]

Hi, I'm not a translator but is there any way that i can help speed up the release of volume 4 chapters?-[[User:Artimech|Artimech]] 01:21, 21 July 2012‎ (CDT)

Is there a plan to make a PDF of volume 4? [[User:Aleaccipiter|Aleaccipiter]] ([[User talk:Aleaccipiter|talk]]) 18:38, 11 August 2012 (CDT)

PDF will come when someone makes it - not me, though. Also, @Artimech, I thought I was translating V4 fast enough :( - [[User:Florza|Florza]]

@Florza, well actually that comment was made before you posted Chapter 1, so it's not really directed to you... *Edits* That's why it's important to sign messages with a time stamp. The standard signature is <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> (4 tildes), for those who don't know. --[[User:Zzhk|Zzhk]] ([[User talk:Zzhk|talk]]) 20:56, 11 August 2012 (CDT)

Well to both Florza and Zzhk -- Your translation speeds are greate. Campione probably is one of the fastest translating projects, and it's alll thanks to you. [[User:Aleaccipiter|Aleaccipiter]] ([[User talk:Aleaccipiter|talk]]) 04:02, 12 August 2012 (CDT)

A really big thanks to all the translators of this great series. I'm really glad you made me discover this great series. It's my favorite so far so thanks a lot.--[[User:MaerisCrisis|MaerisCrisis]] ([[User talk:MaerisCrisis|talk]]) 16:33, 26 August 2012 (CDT)

The anime suck so much, what do you think? [[User:Tel'Aral|Tel'Aral]] ([[User talk:Tel'Aral|talk]]) 19:21, 9 September 2012 (CDT)
 
Anime provides exposure. I read from anime blogs that the LN was much better, so that's why started reading it ;) --[[User:Drowzycow|Drowzycow]] ([[User talk:Drowzycow|talk]]) 19:26, 9 September 2012 (CDT)

I think you guys should go [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=5218 here]. [[User:Arczyx|Arczyx]] ([[User talk:Arczyx|talk]]) 19:50, 9 September 2012 (CDT)

Shouldn't Kadi be removed from the registration for vol. 8? It's been like that for months and seems to just be a giant block in progress for translators and readers.

No, I shouldn't. NEXT!--[[User:Kadi|Kadi]] ([[User talk:Kadi|talk]]) 17:41, 14 September 2012 (CDT)

Thanks to all the people who work on this! (Mokata)

You are super guys especially zzhk, i aven want to ask him to tranlate all the volumes xD

I'm reading the first volume, and in Chapter 2 Part 4 should be written "Castello Sforzesco", not "Castella Sforzesco".
And if anyone wants, "Cuor di Leone" is better than "Cuore di Leone"; it's grammatically correct but, "Cuor di Leone" sounds better and have a different meaning, more appropriate. ("Cuore di Leone" it's like a real hearth of a lion, "Cuor di Leone" it's like the rhetorical figure of the courage of the lion; if it's the name of a weapon, object or item, it should definitely be the 2nd one). P.s. I'm Italian. 23 November 2012

I don't suppose it would be possible for someone to try to get a timeline as far as the volumes go? I just finished reading vol 10 and the first chapters of 11 and 12. Am I right that 12 is set sometime before 12? In any case, thank you for your work. It gives me something to look forward to when I wake up. Thanks again, Acp --26 Nov 2012

hi, thank to all the translator and editors for the novels, since Thatsjustpeachy said he is not going to do the volume 12 will other take his place? - renextronex (05 jan 2013)

just wondering, while are the first 6 volumes of the series protected to prevent editing? i was a whole bunch of errors with grammar but wasn't able to fix them. --[[User:Monsterbandage|Monsterbandage]] 4:39, 22 January 2013 (CDT)

Kadi locked them. You can find the reasoning in the forums. Also, and no offense, but...all in all, this is probably for the best >_> --[[User:Hiyono|Hiyono]] ([[User talk:Hiyono|talk]]) 23:01, 21 January 2013 (CST)

They should be unlocked soon, but in the mean time, just point out your suggested changes on the respective talk pages --[[User:Zzhk|Zzhk]] ([[User talk:Zzhk|talk]]) 23:15, 21 January 2013 (CST)

Sooooo is there a blu-ray side story number 2? It's been bothering me for a while, there's #3 and #1 but no #2. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] ([[User talk:Mufarasu|talk]]) 19:58, 8 March 2013 (CST)

==Enjoying the work and will contribute==
I would like to thank everyone for all the effort on Campione! I enjoy the series and cannot wait for more. While I am not an experienced editor, I will help proof through the pages I read. Thanks!

==Editing Issues==

There's several missing " in dialogues. Is it intentional?[[User:Castor212|Castor212]] 09:39, 19 August 2011 (CDT)

Shouldn't be. Correct them in these cases. Though, be sure that you aren't mistaking it for the monologue. -[[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:27, 25 August 2011 (CDT)

There seems to be some problem with the navigation, after volume 2 afterword, i jump straight to volume 3 chapter 1, skipping novel illustrations and prologue?

Its fixed now. you can jump to vol 3 prologue. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 00:01, 2 June 2012 (CDT)

Old Style:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/f/f1/Campione_v2_139.jpg

New Style:
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/f/fe/Campione_v12_149.jpg

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=== miko's vs mikos vs miko ===

* 16:20, 1 July 2012 Dagger (Talk | contribs) m (42,621 bytes) (Fix "miko's"/"your's")
* 00:50, 2 July 2012 Zakashi (Talk | contribs) m (42,622 bytes) (The translator has reverted changes from "miko's" to "mikos" before, please clarify with him for the details on the use of "miko's" if you are intending to change them)

([[Campione!:Volume 2 Chapter4]])

Can we get a decision on which to use? Pluralizing with apostrophes is wrong, so "miko's" ought to be out; the choice should be between "mikos" and "miko".

I couldn't find a Baka-Tsuki guideline for this, but [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Japan-related_articles#Pluralization the Wikipedia one] says that normally "miko" would be used. That's my preference too, and I'd be happy to go through and change it everywhere. -- [[User:Dagger|Dagger]] 21:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)

This is actually under discussion in the forum [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=4702&sid=c7035c5526973f1f4af6dbb3502c9d3f Terminology thread]. So far, the only one who has weighed in on the issue is Project Supervisor Kadi, who has advocated the unaltered form, i.e. "miko" whether plural or singular. I have no objections to that. In the future, please bring up style issues in the forum thread.

I would appreciate a bit of research before stating something flatly as wrong. Apparently, the use of "apostrophe s" to pluralize foreign words was common before the 19th century, so I guess I'm just old-fashioned and obsolete in that regard :P --[[User:Zzhk|Zzhk]] 03:47, 8 July 2012 (CDT)

Ah, sorry, didn't realize there was a forum thread. I don't think I've even ventured onto the forums before... I did scan the Apostrophe Wikipedia page beforehand, but I mostly figured that the rules for pluralization were well-known -- but then I have to concede that I was unaware of that particular usage. [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VHO1kSJK1JcC&pg=PT50#v=onepage&q&f=false Eats, Shoots and Leaves] is pretty unequivocal in discouraging its use nowadays though. -- [[User:Dagger|Dagger]] 22:00, 11 July 2012 (CDT)

=== I am not certain, but this could be a mistake ===
Volume 5, Epilogue:
"Though all sorts of major... well, not too major things happened, I don't think we really mind. The next time we meet, I hope we can get along better."

I think it should be minor instead of major, or something like that becouse of the context (later in the sentence he remembered the catastrof and changed the statement), but since I don´t have the original text (and can´t read japanese) I can´t be sure, so just pointing it out for you to consider.--[[User:KaprJarda|KaprJarda]] ([[User talk:KaprJarda|talk]]) 16:01, 10 August 2012 (CDT)

Actually, "major" first slipped out because he was being honest, and then Godou just went into denial-mode over the usual public destruction. Also, he's being nice to her in trying to downplay the havoc. If you have a better way of phrasing it, by all means, go ahead.--[[User:Zzhk|Zzhk]] ([[User talk:Zzhk|talk]]) 17:43, 10 August 2012 (CDT)

No unfortunatelly I don´t have any better idea, I wasn´t just sure whether this was right, but now I understand it, thanks and sorry for bothering you.--[[User:KaprJarda|KaprJarda]] ([[User talk:KaprJarda|talk]]) 05:26, 11 August 2012 (CDT)

In vol 12 chapter 1 When they talk about the 2 members from the idiot trio that came last in the translation it was addressed as if they were godou's best friends when we all know they are Nanami's best friends and they do name themselves that a little while after. I corrected it to Nanami's BUT as this seem to be some kind of changed reality I may be wrong [[User:Aagcnet|Aagcnet]]

Ano~ the 'Remember how all the magic cast on us was deflected by you' in volume 11 near end of chapter 2,can you check it again? In my opinion, 'by' and 'on' should be swapped. It might just be me though. [[User:Resoundz|Resoundz]] ([[User talk:Resoundz|talk]]) 19:33, 4 February 2013 (CST)

Erica is saying the spells cast by others were blocked by Godou. How can it be "cast by us" if Godou doesn't know any magic? Also, "deflected on" doesn't make sense either. -[[User:Zzhk|Zzhk]] ([[User talk:Zzhk|talk]]) 20:05, 4 February 2013 (CST)

I see. I understood it as magics casted by Erica and magis to Godou when it should be magics casted on both Godou and Erica e.g the incident with Biachi's memento mori spell. Thank you for clearing my doubt. [[User:Resoundz|Resoundz]] ([[User talk:Resoundz|talk]]) 21:37, 4 February 2013 (CST)

== Permission to translate Campione to Vietnamese ==

I'm a fan of this light novel and I hope to bring it to the Vietnamese light novel fan community

Message to Trung-t-rung in Vietnamese (sorry, I'm not good at English): Bộ này khó nhai lắm đấy. Đề nghị tra cứu kĩ lưỡng và chọn từ cẩn thận trước khi gõ xuống bàn phím nhé. Và các cảnh mút lưỡi dịch cho hồi hộp, gay cấn, căng thẳng vào đấy, đọc thấy không hay là tớ ném gạch đấy =)) [[User:Gingi|Gingi]] ([[User talk:Gingi|talk]]) 10:37, 28 September 2012 (CDT)

Đừng lo đoạn kiss kiếc mình đã nhờ một bạn chuyên dịch hen phụ rồi

Message to Trung-t-rung in Vietnamese: ngoài mấy cảnh kiss ra còn nhiều thứ khó nhai lắm, như từ cổ, cách xưng hô (vì bộ này có phân biệt giai cấp rất rõ ràng). Đặc biệt trong 2 vol 6-7 liên quan đến Campione ở Trung Hoa, có nhiều từ phải tra raw (hồi đọc 2 vol này mình tra raw và kanji đuối luôn) và có nhiều đoạn dịch theo kiểu kiếm hiệp nghe hợp hơn. Bạn nên lập một topic trong vnsharing hay trang sonako để mọi người góp ý và thảo luận. --[[User:Cogn|Cogn]] ([[User talk:Cogn|talk]]) 08:44, 7 October 2012 (CDT)

== I hope he brings her back ==

I just finished volume 9, and I hope Taketsuki brings Athena back, she was one of my fav female characters and one of the cutest too

God, I just read I a spolier.... FML

I hope he also brings back Lancelot and Geniviere, I got really attached to them.

'''[Warning: spoilers from vol.10]''' As of vol.10, Heretic Athena has become Divine Ancestor Athena, so she should come back. What really bugs me is the parting gift given to Godou; at first, I thought it could be [knowledge], but recently I've started to think it could have been a part of herself by some kind of dissociation like when she became Hecate and Medusa as separate entities. About Lancelot and Guinevere, the former seems confirmed to not come back since her legend has changed too much (though I think she could come back as a primitive version of herself) and the later should need to rest several centuries before coming back ''as a new one'', so unless a reviving ritual akin to the one to revive Asherah, but better, comes up, it does not seem possible.--[[User:Kemm|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm|talk]]) 06:21, 26 April 2013 (CDT)

== The missing chapter ==

Anyone knows what happened to "Volume 8 Chapter 2 - Seeking the Mysterious Devil King, the Campione・FINALE " ? It seems unreasonable that just that one chapter was not translated so maybe the link got damaged or something?. I don't know if this has been addressed before but it was highly confusing so I decided to venture and ask.

I understand translators have their own lives, and am very grateful for the time they give to translate all these LNs but if at all possible before translating further volumes could someone translate the missing chapter? otherwise people will be stuck on volume 8 without being able to read the other volumes which are already translated.

Chapter 1 was being translated, a bit at a time. Chapter 2 hasn't been started yet, to my knowledge. [[Special:Contributions/24.18.107.246|24.18.107.246]]

Ch 2 is being translated by Kadi. Also, since Vol 8 is side stories, you can skip it and read Ch. 9, there is no need to wait. --[[User:Bilagaana|Bilagaana]] ([[User talk:Bilagaana|talk]]) 22:08, 2 December 2012 (CST)

Chap 2 is completed now. Thank Kadi very much --[[User:Cogn|Cogn]] ([[User talk:Cogn|talk]]) 23:28, 2 December 2012 (CST)

== Cover vs Character illustration on title page ==

Now i've been thinking for a while, that Campione is pretty unique in that aspect, all other novels use cover pages of respective volume to differentiate between them, and logically speaking that would be the right choice in this case as well, but - it is up for discussion and Campione translators/supervisor are the ones that ultimately decide about that, so, gimme yer opinions. --[[User:Krytyk|Krytyk]] ([[User talk:Krytyk|talk]]) 04:30, 16 February 2013 (CST)

IIRC, it's because Vaelis was angry about the fact that the covers may spill people or whatever. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 09:19, 16 February 2013 (CST)

Oh~ dat so --[[User:Krytyk|Krytyk]] ([[User talk:Krytyk|talk]]) 16:00, 16 February 2013 (CST)

Even back then the discussion was confused. From what I remember (and the way I understood it), Vaelis was unhappy because the images were too large, size-wise, making the page slow to load and we were spoiling because we ''didn't'' use the covers. My standpoint was the size is very manageable nowadays (I manage, every day, with limited data volume/month on my smartphone) and we don't actually spoil anything because the image we use are only a part of the cover anyway. As for why we use them rather than the cover... they look better. The person who implemented the images thought so, and the majority and I seemed to agree.--[[User:Kadi|Kadi]] ([[User talk:Kadi|talk]]) 11:38, 17 February 2013 (CST)

== V1 Ch6 ==

The unknown god "Eru" is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity) El], the supreme god of the canaanites.--[[User:Kemm|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm|talk]]) 07:08, 14 April 2013 (CDT)

== Blu-ray special story ==

Is there a 6th?--[[User:Kemm|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm|talk]]) 12:10, 16 April 2013 (CDT)

There are seven of them. It has been confirmed by Zzhk and the registration page updtated accordingly. [[Special:Contributions/90.32.244.205|90.32.244.205]] 12:24, 16 April 2013 (CDT)

== About Heretic Lancelot ==

why godou doesn't gain any authority from defeated heretic Lancelot while he get the authority from heretic Circe in vol 13

read volume 10 epilogue part 2--[[User:Lonedemon|loneDemon]] ([[User talk:Lonedemon|talk]]) 21:23, 14 May 2013 (CDT)

thanks bro now I understand

== Volume 14 ==

Mmm, the title of volume 14 is an interesting one. I can't wait for it, then again maybe the 8th Campione...So excited :S ---[[User:Code 06|Code 06]] ([[User talk:Code 06|talk]]) 10:58, 16 May 2013 (CDT)

Maybe the 8th campione will also be japanese
I wonder if it will be a new character or an old one [User talk : ashwathdragon] 16:09 14 May 2013

My guess is that the viewpoint will be in this new character, who likes to bet on it? --[[User:Black Ice Prince|Black Ice Prince]] ([[User talk:Black Ice Prince|talk]]) 11:43, 16 May 2013 (CDT)

I bet it's a new campione, but wouldn't it be a shocker if it was Shizuka?[[User:ZAIZEAH|ZAIZEAH]] ([[User talk:ZAIZEAH|talk]]) 08:27, 21 May 2013 (CDT)

I seriously doubt that .. I'm looking forward to 3rd's and 8th' appearance .. --[[User:Black Ice Prince|Black Ice Prince]] ([[User talk:Black Ice Prince|talk]]) 08:37, 21 May 2013 (CDT)

Road to the new harem, oh and i think it will be a new character i hope it was a girl

Hope they add a chuunibyou character without knowledge regarding magic .. --[[User:Black Ice Prince|Black Ice Prince]] ([[User talk:Black Ice Prince|talk]]) 04:36, 22 May 2013 (CDT)

But if a chuunibyou becomes campione, wouldn´t the delusions become truth? Than there would be no point in making the character chuunibyou.--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 07:40, 26 May 2013 (CDT)

No, I mean for example a transfer student who suddenly sees Godou using magic. Don't you think I'ts interesting that way .. --[[User:Black Ice Prince|Black Ice Prince]] ([[User talk:Black Ice Prince|talk]]) 08:08, 26 May 2013 (CDT)

Wait, another one? But in my counts there's one that we haven't meet. Let's see: Vovan, Cuo Liang, John Smith, Salvatore Doni (The Idiot one), The Black Prince and Goudou.... 1, 2.... 6! I'm missing one? --[[User:Braiam|Braiam]] ([[User talk:Braiam|talk]]) 16:07, 26 May 2013 (CDT)

:Madam Aisha from Egypt if I am not wrong--[[User:Mhafzam|Mhafzam]] ([[User talk:Mhafzam|talk]]) 12:20, 27 May 2013 (CDT)

:Braiam: I think that the description of "The Idiot one" is quite misleading, as it can easily be used to more than half of the aforementioned :). Anyway I suppose I know who you mean. And the last one should be, as someone before me said (too lazy to look into the history), Alexandria`s queen.--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 09:05, 27 May 2013 (CDT)

::Yeah, I just didn't remembered the name at that time (after a night of sleep it suddenly came to me), but between the fools he's still called "Idiot" is quite an achievement. BTW, anyone can point me out were this Alexandria's Queen/Madam Aisha is mentioned? I did a quick search (ctrl + f) with the name but didn't caugh it. About Vol. 14, I would say that is a girl... judging from the cover.
I forgot where..but I remember Her name was mentioned in anime campione episode 2..about three minutes before the episode end...--[[User:Mhafzam|Mhafzam]] ([[User talk:Mhafzam|talk]]) 12:20, 27 May 2013 (CDT)

I don't remember which of the main volumes, but Aisha's mentioned in SS6.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] ([[User talk:Saganatsu|talk]]) 15:23, 27 May 2013 (CDT)

Volume 1, search for "aisha" --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] ([[User talk:Saganatsu|talk]]) 16:02, 27 May 2013 (CDT)

Too bad it would be interesting if it was Shizuka then she would know the true Godou and why he has a harem. Just imagine how much scolding and drama would insure if she knew how far and how often he kisses 4 different girls. wounder if he will tell the girls about bathing with the sworn big sis and even kissing her. and will we ever see him like he was under the curse again he made all the girls flustered if he was like that a school it would be funny to say the least.

:I was kinda expecting this to surface the next time he meets with her (or rather once they come to know, that they have become sworn siblings) with something like: "Wait a minute, Godou, when have you become so close to her?", but looks like it won´t happen. What a pity.--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 10:49, 28 May 2013 (CDT)

well there is possibility to be like that and i think it would be very funny about the siblings . --Mustang (talk)

Just really want to see Godou under the curse again he was such a active playboy teasing all the girls. wounder want the little sis would be like with him under curse as she is a brocon.

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I think it's not Bezobrakov but Bezoblakov. Since he is russian and latter could be translated as "without clouds" or "not cloudy". Not real russian surname though.

Is Liu Yunde alive? The sentence "Then were you aware that the 'Heavenly General' was present with and perished alongside the fleet?" indicates that he's dead but further reading hints that he's alive and is active.--[[User:Vu.P|Vu.P]] ([[User talk:Vu.P|talk]]) 07:04, 2 April 2013 (CDT)
:Don't know where you are getting that vibe from, the whole '13 apostles to 12 apostles' makes it clear he's dead.--[[User:Drowzycow|Drowzycow]] ([[User talk:Drowzycow|talk]]) 07:19, 2 April 2013 (CDT)

:From what I can tell, he is dead. The only line I can think of hinting that he is alive is the one saying "as we are aware of Lie Yunde's movements" or whatever, but that just means they were aware he was active, which is why they know he is dead. As for the russian name, I would be more inclined to think it to be Bezobrazov. ベゾブラゾフ = Bezoburazofu, and there technically is some Russian person named Aleksandr Bezaobrazov according to wiki. Someone who knows Russian probably should attempt to put his or her thoughts into this, though :P --[[User:EnigmaticAxiom|EnigmaticAxiom]] ([[User talk:EnigmaticAxiom|talk]]) 07:20, 2013 April 2 (CDT)
::Yes, Bezobrazov seems to be correct. Previous post about surname was also me. I don't have raws so I couldn't have checked original. [[Special:Contributions/212.45.0.203|212.45.0.203]] 13:22, 2 April 2013 (CDT)

Don't know where I got kov from. Fixed.
Also, bloody Yanks and their heretic spellings >_> [[User:Seitsuki|Seit]] ([[User talk:Seitsuki|talk]]) 17:07, 2 April 2013 (CDT)

"I can’t even say it’s unlikely I wouldn’t be killed by him" - that line doesn't make sense given the context. --[[Special:Contributions/192.5.215.218|192.5.215.218]] 02:38, 4 April 2013 (CDT)

(Agreement with the above; perhaps 'I can’t even say it's unlikely I'd be killed by him'. For a different (and more minor) suggestion, perhaps change "However for the events...Okinawa', can only be" to "However, for the events...Okinawa' can only be".)
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((For my main reaction: So much squeeing! The Yotsuba specialties are the sorts of power I've longed for in the past. The declaration of (and reason for) Miyuki's future position is also wonderful and laugh-inducing. It's slightly concerning that the decision hasn't been cemented as fact for the rest of the family, since unexpected things can happen--but since we readers care more about the siblings than about the rest of the family, that maybe doesn't need to overly bother us.)) -[[User:Multipartite|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite|talk]]) 04:32, 4 April 2013 (CDT)

Low-sigificance comment on the page History's annotation 'Its [sic] a flashback so the use of present tense is not wrong.': As this is 2095AD November 6th, it is (as far as I'm aware) not a flashback, but rather 'the present'. If the impression is based on the line 'It had been one week since[...]', note that, after mentioning what happened one week ago, it goes back to what is happening now (contrasting the two occasions). (*flees from ambiguous tense choice matters which, being ambiguous, in any case do not set off painful mental sirens*) -[[User:Multipartite|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite|talk]]) 08:25, 4 April 2013 (CDT)
:Multipartite is correct here. The 'flashback', uses present tense due to Miyuki's first person perspective. But the current scene occurs in the 'present' and narrative tense would sound better.--[[User:Drowzycow|Drowzycow]] ([[User talk:Drowzycow|talk]]) 14:24, 4 April 2013 (CDT)
::(*happiness*) -[[User:Multipartite|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite|talk]]) 16:11, 4 April 2013 (CDT)

'"Had served/is continuing" is a mismatch etc.': Is it? *curiosity* "I have in the past served [X]'s predecessor, and am continuing with my service in serving [X]"... (Another History annotation comment, directed at the other one of the two.) (Again, not claiming correctness of either side, but pointing out (/any) possible flaws noticed in the reasoning of both/either.) -[[User:Multipartite|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite|talk]]) 08:36, 4 April 2013 (CDT)

Note that in your example you used "I ''have'' served", not "I ''had'' served". "Had" implies two levels of past - an earlier time, and then something had happened before that time. "Had served" sounds like past tense narration here - he "was serving" Maya (already past for the "current" time being talked about), and "had served" her predecessor (further in the past). In present tense narration, I'd expect this to be "He formerly served the previous head, and is now continuing his service under Maya". [[Special:Contributions/80.223.220.209|80.223.220.209]] 09:41, 4 April 2013 (CDT)

After contemplation, another possible example thought of: "I had wanted you to {take over the company once I retired}/{marry person Y instead of person Z}... but no matter.". For another example, "If I'd wanted you to do that I'd have said so", which becomes "If I had wanted you to do that I would have said so" ('If I would have wanted' or 'If I have wanted' doomful.). In both cases, I only see one level of past, but no mental dissonance. *enjoys the discussion*
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(Hmm, to make sure there's no rule about wanting: 'If I'd walked under there I would have died!'. I note I can't immediate rule out the possibility of a rule about two-part usage, though. Ah, but it may be possible to deal with even that with the line of reasoning that the 'before the previous head was replaced' is {implied by}/{assumable from} context.) (*wonders curiously what actually happened to the previous head... and what tends to be the end of Yotsuba heads in general, which could be Miyuki-relevant later...*) -[[User:Multipartite|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite|talk]]) 13:02, 4 April 2013 (CDT)

Hypothetical "if X happened" is a different case. "I don't own that hause; if I did, I would paint it black" - this is in present tense, and the "did" does not mean past. And similarly in past tense "I didn't own that house; if I had, I would have painted it black". [[Special:Contributions/80.223.220.209|80.223.220.209]] 14:45, 4 April 2013 (CDT)

Ahh, the 'would(/ have)' pairing... I see. *nods* Assuming 'had' as in ownership to be wholly inapplicable, only the "I had wanted[...]"/"I had hoped[...]" example above remains (unless there is in fact a separate rule for wanting). *close to being convinced, searches for detailed information on the word*
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Pluperfect (wiktionary, from http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/had ): 'Pertaining to action completed before or at the same time as another', no mention of double pastness. There's also an example of two hads used, but I'm guessing that to have an operation or to have a drink is, like having (owning) a dog, not directly comparable to 'having done something'. Formal definitions can be found which lack a mention of double pastness, but can one be found which supports it?
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--("I had just stepped over the threshold, when BOOM! A djinn appeared in front of me!", but perhaps that could be seen as 'A djinn appeared (past 1) right after I'd gone in (past 2)'... Ah, but then one could argue a "He serves Maya. [He started serving her when she became the leader, and ]he'd served the previous leader before[ that].". Complete omission might be inapplicable though, hmm. *curiosity*) -[[User:Multipartite|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite|talk]]) 16:11, 4 April 2013 (CDT)
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Edit: A better phrasing is perhaps "He'd served the previous leader[ back when the leader was the previous leader, as directly indicated by the 'previous'], and now serves Maya.". "I'd been a tiny child back then... ahh, good times." -[[User:Multipartite|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite|talk]]) 16:18, 4 April 2013 (CDT)

I think the relevant wiktionary page is http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pluperfect_tense, which says "before another past event". [[Special:Contributions/80.223.220.209|80.223.220.209]] 16:33, 4 April 2013 (CDT)
:Convincing! The possible reasoning of the indicated-other-past-event remains, but in any case all possible input by me (on the matter in question) has likely been given by this point. This conversation has been very educational, thank you! -[[User:Multipartite|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite|talk]]) 06:55, 5 April 2013 (CDT)

Guys, please indent your sentences if it is a reply to a post above. Also timestamps --[[Special:Contributions/192.5.215.218|192.5.215.218]] 20:50, 4 April 2013 (CDT)
:Like this? This does seem easier to read, so I'll try to do so from now on--thank you for the request. Curious that the indentation method isn't listed in ?title=Help:Editing . *wonders whether there's a maximum number of indentation levels* Also, as far as I can see, timestamps are all(?) in place via the four tildes. -[[User:Multipartite|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite|talk]]) 06:55, 5 April 2013 (CDT)

I find this explanation for the distributed ray of light confusing. Can someone please explain why it being distributed means it can't be reflected or the likes? [[User:IndexArcanum|IndexArcanum]] ([[User talk:IndexArcanum|talk]])
:I read it as unstoppable lasers, defined by Maya choosing where point A and point B go to. --[[User:Drowzycow|Drowzycow]] ([[User talk:Drowzycow|talk]]) 06:14, 5 April 2013 (CDT)
It is more along the lines of she is telling the information body that the light that passed through it is of a extremely high density and there for a hole is opened in it due to the difference in the density of the two. example if u pour an oil and water together the oil will separate itself form the water and rise to the surface due to its greater density. using this example the light that was condensed form the
surroundings has a density that is too great to reflected by anything that can not reflect 100% of all the light that hits it there for when it passes through an inanimate or living object a hole is left {think of flesh like a sheet of paper and the light as a pencil that was thrown or dropped at the paper while it is stretched completely to its limits}.

About Soviet Strategic Class magician. His name shoud be in Russian Игорь Адреевич Безобразов and in English Igor Andre'''e'''vich Bezobrazov. --[[User:Glenrok|Glenrok]] ([[User talk:Glenrok|talk]]) 07:46, 5 April 2013 (CDT)

Talk:Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei:Volume 8 Chapter 4

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Just interested in i a little, but was there any specific reason for leaving the rest of this chapter untranslated? --[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 13:49, 5 March 2013 (CST)

It just fell through a gap so to speak. Since Seitsuki popped up with ch3, Sashiko moved to ch5 assuming Seit moves to ch4, but Seit went to ch6..in short just multiple translator's working on one volume stuff. --[[User:Drowzycow|Drowzycow]] ([[User talk:Drowzycow|talk]]) 14:17, 5 March 2013 (CST)

Is ch4 not getting finished or is the incomplete tag old?

Not sure what is happening with it, but it is still incomplete. Patience, it will get completed when it does.

The MKnR fan in me is dying because he is eagerly waiting to read the chapter (when he is not ripping his hair out from MKnR deficiency) seeing the next chapters there but unable to read on because of an incomplete chapter has him in a frenzy of mood swings from eagerness to frustration.
: Me too but PLEASE, don't bug the magic people that translate this ''obra maestra'' saying such things, or they will return to Neverland

Nooo! they must not go to Neverland they can take there time i will just wait.whimpers.(finds a stuffed toy starts pulling out stuffing.)

Talk:Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei:Volume 8 Chapter 4

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=== '''Questions and Answers''' ===

'''1. Are you working on the light novels or the web novels? What's the difference?'''

I'm working from the Chinese translations of the light novels. The web novels were published before the light novels, but the light novels contain more content in terms of character development and extra scenes. In addition, some lines in the web novels were toned down in the light novels. (And there's more fanservice in the light novels.)

'''2. Hey, dude, the chapters are out of order! Why did you translate Chapter Y before Chapter X?'''

Simply put, because someone signed up to do Chapter X before I did. Translators work at different speeds, so some chapters may come out ahead of the others. Everyone works at their own pace, so give them some time.

'''3. So when's your next chapter coming out?'''

If I got a dollar every time someone asked me this, I would be able to do this for a living. Click on the User Page tab on the top left corner and you will find my progression on the latest chapter as well as a ''rough'' estimate on when the chapter will be complete. And, no, it has been scientifically proven that asking me to work faster/harder does not improve translation speed. I am working off of PST in California, so do take that into account when looking for the new chapter on my update days.

'''4. Are you going to translate all the volumes?'''

Until otherwise stated, yes. Volume 5 may get delayed though, since it is a collection of side stories rather than advancing the main plot.

'''5. I got the chapter summaries from somewhere else, may I post them in the forums?'''

Please don't. Last I heard, the chapter summaries flying everywhere absolutely killed all motivation for the translators. So...... Please don't. Please.

'''6. I want to join the project, where do I sign up?'''

I don't have the power to actually grant that since I am not the project leader for MKnR, larenthian is. If you are interested in joining the project, drop by the Feedback Thread to let larenthian and Seitsuki know. Following that, inscribe your name onto the [[Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Registration_Page|Registration]] page next to which chapter you would like to work on. I will '''not''' provide RAWs, so do not ask.

'''7. I have more questions that you haven't answered here!'''

Drop me a line in the comments section below. If I can't answer it, go ahead and take it to the Feedback Thread on the forums.

=== '''Comments'''===
Hm, seeing how between you and Sashiko you seem to have the remaining two volumes covered.. anything you'd like assistance on once I finish up Yuutousei? Or are you guys fine? [[User:Seitsuki|Seit]] ([[User talk:Seitsuki|talk]]) 23:42, 8 February 2013 (CST)

:I think we're solid for now, but do be on the lookout for messages from me regarding future Miyuki scenes. Unless, of course, you don't want them. /end sarcasm. [[User:Dreyakis|Dreyakis]] ([[User talk:Dreyakis#top|talk]]) 10:57, 9 February 2013 (CST)

How are you translating 灼熱? I put "Flaming Hot" but, since I haven't posted chapter one of Volume 8; I can change it if you have a different translation[[User:Sashiko|Sashiko]] ([[User talk:Sashiko|talk]]) 20:33, 14 February 2013 (CST)

:"Scorching" is how the various other translations have it, though I personally leaned towards "Burning". I'm currently going with "Scorching", though.

I have added the missing lines in chapter 6 and 7 of volume 6, tagged with <nowiki></nowiki>. Probably you want to edit those to make the sentences or its surroundings flow more nicely :) [[User:Arczyx|Arczyx]] ([[User talk:Arczyx|talk]]) 01:47, 19 February 2013 (CST)

:Got it. Thank you very much. [[User:Dreyakis|Dreyakis]] ([[User talk:Dreyakis#top|talk]]) 10:16, 19 February 2013 (CST)

Alright will start reading Mahouka to check for spelling and grammar after I wake up. If I find something who do I contact about it then? [[User:Medisuena|Medisuena]] ([[User talk:Medisuena|talk]])

: It's a wiki, feel free to edit typos and grammar if you see something wrong. Just check the project specific guidelines/ general guidelines before starting. Can be careful about changing the meaning of the sentence, unless you think it needs changing then point it out in the relevant discussion page before making the change. --[[User:Drowzycow|Drowzycow]] ([[User talk:Drowzycow|talk]]) 21:40, 28 February 2013 (CST)

Chapter 12 was awesome. BTW, Mahesvara(Maheshvara) is an alternate name for Lord Shiva, the Hindu God of destruction and one of the Hindu trinity consisting of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Maybe useful to add as a footnote.

Is Volume 8 supposed to have such short chapters, or were they simply summarized translations of the full chapters?

:Yes it is supposed to have such short chapters. The chapters alternate between present and past and so each chapter is shorter than in previous :volumes, but there are almost 3 times as many chapters than usual. [[User:SXIII|SXIII]] ([[User talk:SXIII|talk]]) 16:28, 3 March 2013 (CST)

Thank you for the TL --[[User:Kai Ran|Kai Ran]] ([[User talk:Kai Ran|talk]]) 10:27, 4 March 2013 (CST)

Will you be doing the remaining short stories? Just asking because i would like to read the others and your work is fast and easy to understand even in areas with mistakes so i really enjoy reading the the translations done by you. (because I do not have to ponder what the meaning of the lines are based off the lines before and after and can just follow the story).

=== '''Expressing Gratitude''' ===
This Light novel is awesome!! I've been addicted from the get go!, Thank you for doing such a great job translating! I've been Checking constantly to see if the new chapter will be out soon. I wonder when the next volume will come out though.--[[User:Jing577|Jing577]] ([[User talk:Jing577|talk]]) 19:30, 3 March 2013 (CST)

Thanks for Vol 7 Ch 12, I've been checking back every 2 hours for 4 days :3. I shall now go feed my eyes.[[User:All Nighter94|All Night]] ([[User talk:All Nighter94|talk]]) 19:34, 2 March 2013 (CST)

Thanks for Vol 7 Ch 12, I will enjoy reading it. I hope all is well in your life as well. Thanks again. --[[User:Bilagaana|Bilagaana]] ([[User talk:Bilagaana|talk]]) 17:26, 2 March 2013 (CST)

Thx for all your hard work [[User:Medisuena|Medisuena]] ([[User talk:Medisuena|talk]])

Hot damn! I know v7c12 would be a doozie when you hinted at it, glad you weren't just trolling me! Thanks for the great work! [[User:D4mi3n|d4mi3n]] ([[User talk:D4mi3n|talk]])

Haha, thank you for the release again. --[[User:Mada|Mada]] ([[User talk:Mada|talk]]) 00:15, 3 March 2013 (CST)

- Miyuki was utterly breathtaking in the newest chapter (Vol. 7, Ch. 12). That cold fury of hers is just so lovely. Once again, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. =Rune=

And the world froze

Thanks as always, Dreyakis. You're doing one hell of a job! [[User:OL Val|Overlord Val]] ([[User talk:OL Val|talk]]) 08:04, 3 March 2013 (CST)

Ty drey your are the bomb and hopes your not too hard on yourself! [[User:orig27|orig27]] ([[User talk:orig27|talk]])

Thanks again for this wonderful chapter,. as always keep up the good work but don't push yourself to hard [[User:Dreyakis|Dreyakis-sama]]... --[[User:James Gobilzkame|V33]]

辛勤工作的感谢

Most consistent translator ever, translate as fast as I read the light novel in Japanese. :)　お疲れ様です。ありがとうございます！感謝しております。 [[User:pilipok|pilipok]] ([[User talk:pilipok|talk]])

Thank you, thank you for your work, thanks for the speed of your work.
And I'll like to know, how will it go white the volume 9 and 10.
Sorry for being a worrywart. MERCI par avance. Tonda [france]. The tome 9 must be publised in march 2013.

btw can i ask a question how many volumes of MKnR are publish right now? [[User:James Gobilzkame|V33]] 03:41, 4 March 2013 (CST)

Thank you for your the summary releases, Dreyakis! I, no actually, all MKNR fans appreciate your efforts and hard work a lot. Thank you for continuously making us happy. Also, don't overwork yourself okay? Take care of your health too, or we'll all be worried. That's all! God bless! :)~pearl