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==IS: Outstanding Translation Questions==
Any assistance in interpreting the below lines would be greatly appreciated. Segments in '' contain the content in question.

'''Line 55:''' However, since I said it, as a guy, I can't get out of it. 'And the most important thing is that once I form a crack here, I have to face this awkward environment again'

'''Line 111:''' Thanks to a year of cramming, I was designated a grade A student. As usual, I went about taking exams, and as usual, I was accepted as per normal, so I wasn't nervous when I walked into the examinations area. Though I knew the name of the examination facility, I didn't exactly know the location, and such a normal public facility has many functions. Though it is rare for a private firm to borrow from the public sector, 'those are all regional enterprises, and many obey it exclusively.' 

'''Line 113:''' Not good, I'm lost. Speaking of which, why must this facility be constructed in such a confusing manner? 'Seems like it was constructed by some designer with a rather good background. Also, that person should be born from some localized industry.' 

'''Line 201:''' DANG~! Several girls collapsed onto the floor. What were they expecting from me? 'Stop spouting nonsense.'

'''Line Unknown:''' "Ah~ Great. I really wanted to 'switch him over'." <nowiki></nowiki>
'''Line Unknown:''' A certain country 'A' <nowiki></nowiki>is really a rogue.

== IS: Questions' Answers ==

'''Line 53:''' "Re-really? Really? Really? Ok, 'yo-you said it, so you better do it!'" - This line is in response to the line before it but it doesn't make much sense as a whole... (line before: "No, there's no need to apologize... besides, it's just a self-introduction, so please calm down, sensei.")

'''Answer 53:''' "Re-Really? Really? Really? 'Yo-You said it, so you better do it properly, okay?!'" [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 02:24, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

And these questions are better suited to be on the chapter's talk page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 02:24, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

Thnx Zero2001, for the answer for line 53. that will definitely help the flow. As per your suggestion, i was thinking that it'd probably be better if i moved it, just a little while ago... I'll do it in the morning. [[User:Bnns|bnns]] - [[User_talk:Bnns|Talk]] 02:35, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

== Maybe I'm nitpicking but... ==

When Cecilia first speaks with Ichika, there is this line:
"She pointed her thumb at me, her fingertips nearly touching the tip of my nose." Shouldn't we replace "thumb" by finger ? I feel it doesn't sound right like that.

2012-05-24T07:17:53Z

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2012-05-24T05:32:42Z

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===IS===
Have done some work editing the first chapter of IS even though it hasn't been active for quite a while when i was reading the structure of a lot of the different sentences just didn't sit well with me. Either because the content was made too vague by redundancy of words or it was unclear either what was going on or who was the subject so i started making changes to make it clearer to the casual reader. If you have any questions or issues with edits please feel free to contact me.

You might wanna try signing your posts with. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. This automatically inserts your current signature into your posts. Also you can edit your signature to include a direct link to your talk page, like most advanced users here have, from your preferences. I will be revising your edits. As long as they don't destroy the Japanese feel of the chapters I won't have many problems. I think I had overlooked IS' earlier volumes. I look forward to working with you. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 02:27, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

Thank you very much Zero2001, my primary goal is to keep the authenticity, while making it read fluidly in the English. i will be looking forward to working with you as well. Thanks for the pointers. [[User:Bnns|bnns]] - [[User_talk:Bnns|Talk]] 03:15, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

For IS, about 1/4 of the problem is that the author doesn't have a writing style for a novel, since he's been writing eroges before, which does make things choppy. If you check (and click) the view history tab on the top of each chapter, you will notice some comments Perfect Chaos made about the story. Of course, my preference is flow > literal translation, since each language has their own grammatical rules. When working on this, there are countless situations where I have to wonder what the subject is even though Ichika's the viewpoint the reader looks from most of the time. (Then again, this work isn't a work of art either way)--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 05:53, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks Teh Ping, i took a look at some of Perfect Chaos' comments and i will try to follow his style. I will also follow the guide of flow then literal translation that you've recommended, it seems to make the most sense as by definition a translation is in some form or other an interpretation of the original author's intent. [[User:Bnns|bnns]] - [[User_talk:Bnns|Talk]] 00:30, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

You should add yourself to [[Infinite_Stratos#Editors|IS' editors' list]]. You have been doing some heavy editing, so it's only natural. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:54, 22 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks Zero2001 for the suggestion and the vote of confidence but i wouldn't feel right adding myself to the editors list until i've completed my edits for the first chapter. [[User:Bnns|bnns]] - [[User_talk:Bnns|Talk]] 00:33, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

You're supposed to edit the grammatical flow, not the terms. SHR is a valid term that was used in the novel.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:56, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

I did some checks on your edits. No changes to terms are needed, and you don't have to assume whether Ichika or anyone else is talking or not. I did say 'flow', but I actually meant grammatically.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 03:07, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks for the info. I'll leave the structure and terms within the sentences as they are and focus more on making small grammatical adjustments, though when you say terms do you mean acronyms like SHR? or swapping out one word for another because it reads better? [[User:Bnns|bnns]] - [[User_talk:Bnns|Talk]] 10:28, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

For this kind of story, the terms will refer to things like food, IS parts, lesson related things and such. The text gave it as SHR (Student Homeroom Meeting). You're free to edit any parts that you think doesn't flow/or synthesize the sentences, but do not take out specific terms because they are given as such.(It gets worse later on)--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 10:47, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

Understood. I greatly appreciate your advice and guidance. [[User:Bnns|bnns]] - [[User_talk:Bnns|Talk]] 11:15, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

Would like to say thanks for your efforts for editting the chapter. No offense intended, I saw that there are words such as "conspicuous" in your edits that I could not get the meaning at the first go, well it could be my literacy is a bit too low :(, would it be possible if there are other "simpler" words that can be used to replace for more fluent reading? This most likely won't be a big deal to most readers so there is no need to take my suggestion seriously. Once again, thanks for editting the chapter. :)

Thanks for the message i'll keep that in mind and i'll try to simplify the language that i use. The truth of the matter is for that particular sentence conspicuous fit only slightly better than obvious ... i think i'll change it to unmistakeable.... [[User:Bnns|bnns]] - [[User_talk:Bnns|Talk]] 10:28, 23 May 2012 (CDT)
I'll also try and look over what i did over the last little bit and make sure that the words are a simple as possible. [[User:Bnns|bnns]] - [[User_talk:Bnns|Talk]] 11:18, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

For tougher parts you can use ref notes to explain. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:09, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

Reference notes are only to be used to explain Japanese-related thing or really obscure reference for common people. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 14:19, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

Thanks Zero2001, but in most cases it's about finding the best way to phrase it that's tough and not that it's a concept unique to the story or unfamiliar to the general audience... [[User:Bnns|bnns]] - [[User_talk:Bnns|Talk]] 14:30, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

Vaelis is such a killjoy. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:48, 23 May 2012 (CDT)

Heh [[User:Bnns|bnns]] - [[User_talk:Bnns|Talk]] 00:32, 24 May 2012 (CDT)

====IS: Outstanding Translation Questions====
Any assistance in interpreting the below lines would be greatly appreciated. Segments in "" contain the content in question.

'''Line 55:''' However, since I said it, as a guy, I can't get out of it. "And the most important thing is that once I form a crack here, I have to face this awkward environment again"

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