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<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>Hmm, shall be interesting to see how they roll over and die ^_^ --[[User:Tortex|Tortex]] ([[User talk:Tortex|talk]]) 00:27, 10 December 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> Indeed so. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 01:40, 10 December 2013 (CST)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Seirei_Tsukai_no_Blade_Dance:Volume8_Chapter3&diff=235070 2013-03-18T06:41:55Z

<p>Draeke: Created page with &quot;I love you. ~~~~&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>I love you. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 01:41, 18 March 2013 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_7_Chapter_13&diff=231164 2013-03-04T08:23:28Z

<p>Draeke: Created page with &quot;....Holy crap. ~~~~&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>....Holy crap. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:23, 4 March 2013 (CST)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Baka_to_Test_to_Shoukanjuu:Volume6.5_Fumizuki_News_Columns&diff=227923 2013-02-22T06:48:36Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>this is poisoning......<br /> <br /> Terrifyingly so.<br /> <br /> == That Will Melt Even &quot;That Special Someone's&quot; Mouth? ==<br /> <br /> It will certainly melt more than just &quot;That Special Someone's&quot; mouth. I seriously pity Akihisa. Heck,even the pot has melted.<br /> <br /> ==Forget about melting, they wouldn't have even survived if it wasn't due to Rule of Funny==<br /> <br /> With all the substances down there, I'm guessing that the pH is already negative... Also, it's not melting, it's corroding! Good thing that no one got amnesia though.<br /> <br /> Kids, this is why you are not allowed to confuse cooking with chemistry!</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_7_Chapter_11&diff=227815 2013-02-21T18:24:35Z

<p>Draeke: Created page with &quot;Yet Fujibayashi didn&#039;t even react to this as she saluted smartly and departed swiftly. &quot;HmDreyakis (talk) 11:48, 21 February 2013 (CST) ......What a wonderful woman.&quot; &quot;Ha, dre...&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>Yet Fujibayashi didn't even react to this as she saluted smartly and departed swiftly.<br /> &quot;HmDreyakis (talk) 11:48, 21 February 2013 (CST) ......What a wonderful woman.&quot;<br /> &quot;Ha, dream on. She's not the type of woman who'll fall into Toshi-nii's hands.&quot;<br /> <br /> I don't know what to replace this with. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 12:24, 21 February 2013 (CST)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Baka_to_Tesuto_to_Syokanju:Volume6_The_Fourth_Question&diff=227376 2013-02-20T07:55:12Z

<p>Draeke: Removed duplicate line</p> <hr /> <div>==The Fourth Question==<br /> <br /> '''Yoshii Akihisa and Sakamoto Yuuji’s real horror story introduction.'''<br /> <br /> [[File:BTS6 KogureAoi.jpg|thumb]]<br /> <br /> “That’s how it is. I, Yoshii Akihisa, and…”<br /> <br /> “I, Sakamoto Yuuji…”<br /> <br /> “Will introduce to everyone ‘horror experiences’ our readers have passionately sent in.”<br /> <br /> “Isn’t this plan too weird?”<br /> <br /> “Even if you say so, it’s proper manners not to say it out and keep it in your heart, Yuuji.”<br /> <br /> “You already revealed your true thoughts when you say things like that. Never mind, Akihisa. Start introducing the first mail.”<br /> <br /> “Understood. Today’s first mail is from a person with the handle name ‘I’m the strongest A-boy in Shibuya’.”<br /> <br /> “There’s a lot of things I want to say here. He can call himself B-boy anyway, or put the name as Akihabara.”<br /> <br /> “Let’s see…the paragraph in the mail looks like it’s written in a Hip-Hop tune, so I think it’s better to read it in a Hip-Hop manner, I suppose?”<br /> <br /> “Hip-Hop? I don’t understand what that means, but if you can do so, try reading it in a suitable manner.”<br /> <br /> “Got it. Here I go— ‘Yeah, I’m the strongest A-boy in Shibuya yo! Always working hard to glory! But I don’t do for supplementary lessons!’”<br /> <br /> “If you want to head to glory, don’t skip supplementary lessons.”<br /> <br /> “‘Listen to my this, turn around and look!’”<br /> <br /> “See, it’s because you skipped supplementary lessons that you mixed up ‘this’ and ‘disc’.”<br /> <br /> “‘I don’t listen to anyone! I have countless women crying because of me!’”<br /> <br /> “That crying woman should be your mother, right?”<br /> <br /> “My rap is energetic and loud! All the Japs nearby are crying for their mommas!’”<br /> <br /> “Hm…? Rap…? Ahh, I see…oi Akihisa, you don’t have to continue reading.”<br /> <br /> “‘The scary guy is really’—eh? I don’t have to continue? The scary part hasn’t appeared yet.”<br /> <br /> “Don’t mind.”<br /> <br /> “But…”<br /> <br /> “But you can send a mail back to him that he mixed up Rap with supernatural sounds. [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Baka_to_Tesuto_to_Syokanju:Volume6_Translation_Notes_and_References#Translator.27s_Notes]”<br /> <br /> “Heh?”<br /> <br /> “…Don’t make me explain it.”<br /> <br /> “…Ah…I see…”<br /> <br /> “…That’s how it is.”<br /> <br /> “…I shouldn’t have opened that mail in the first place…”<br /> <br /> “…I feel so too…for some reason, I feel like apologizing even though it’s not my fault…”<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> (A test of courage tournament…this is kind of bad. This kind of thing is what I’m weakest at.)<br /> <br /> (Ane-ue, you stepped on it. You stepped on the karakasa-obake!)<br /> <br /> (Ah sorry. I didn’t spoil it, right?)<br /> <br /> <br /> I see. Those two are really amazing. I can’t see them losing their composure or panicking or even geting baited by the honey trap. It’s like there are flowers saddled around them when I look at them. However, it’ll be nice if they can get along well.<br /> <br /> “If it’s the two of them, we should be able to progress safely.”<br /> <br /> “Yeah. The Kinoshitas probably won’t fall into any honey traps.”<br /> <br /> Nothing actually happens on the way, and Hideyoshi’s group finally appears at where that beauty sempai is.<br /> <br /> <br /> (Oh my? You two…I see, since you’re both girls, I can’t stop you two. Please proceed on your own.)<br /> <br /> (That’s what she said, Hideyoshi. We’ll listen to sempai and proceed on.)<br /> <br /> (Muu…even though we’re allowed to pass through, how should I explain the bitterness in my heart…)<br /> <br /> <br /> The senior in the kimono backs aside, not intending to get in their way.<br /> <br /> “That sempai simply opened a way for them.”<br /> <br /> “Yeah. Either way, this lack of resistance from her is way too weird.”<br /> <br /> My stare again returns back to the monitor. As Hideyoshi and his sister moves from the senior in kimono, the other one of the Toko-Natsu pair—the Mohawk head (Tsunemura) sempai is standing there.<br /> <br /> “What in the world? Is this what they’re using to deal with Hideyoshi? But he doesn’t look as weird as that baldy-senpai. I don’t see anything that’s going to make anyone scream.”<br /> <br /> Either way, I can’t see anything weird. That Mohawk-sempai is just standing there. Is he going to call out a powerful summoned beast? Like something that will cause Hideyoshi to scream once he sees something horrible…no, it doesn’t look like he’ll be calling out his summoned beast.<br /> <br /> <br /> (You finally came, Kinoshita. I’ve been waiting for you.)<br /> <br /> (What is it? Were thou waiting for me? What is tis you want?)<br /> <br /> (I don’t know what’s going on, but if you have something on, just hurry up and settle it, Hideyoshi. We still have to go on.)<br /> <br /> (You’re right. I’d not know what you want, but please keep it short.)<br /> <br /> (Un, it’s fine. I won’t take too long…Kinoshita Hideyoshi, please listen.)<br /> <br /> (What is it?)<br /> <br /> <br /> On the screen, the Mohawk-sempai looks serious as he walks towards Hideyoshi.<br /> <br /> Then, he says to Hideyoshi with a clear, unmistakeable tone,<br /> <br /> <br /> (—I've always loved you.)<br /> <br /> <br /> For the first time in my life—I heard Hideyoshi scream for real.<br /> <br /> &lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 200%; border: &quot;&gt;&lt;center&gt;☆&lt;/center&gt;&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> “I, I’m really sorry, Yuuji, Akihisa…I’d actually made such an embarrassing scream…”<br /> <br /> “You don’t have to worry, Hideyoshi. It’s understandable that you were confessed to by a gay—and a disgusting guy like that.”<br /> <br /> “Yeah, Hideyoshi. Your sister was going ‘why am I left aside, why am I…!’ while carrying out wrestling moves on you. It’s impressive that you only screamed out.”<br /> <br /> “Ane-ue’s wrestling moves were really bad…but I’d had the worst when he started reading that love poem that he wrote when thinking about me…”<br /> <br /> That was really an incomparable torture to the body and soul. I stopped trying to maintain consciousness the moment I heard the line ‘You’re the sun shining on me’. Of course, the fear Hideyoshi felt, who listened until the very end, couldn’t be measured.<br /> <br /> “If possible, I’d wanted to use ane-ue’s power to break through C classroom…and even if we couldn’t, I’d hope to at least wear them out.”<br /> <br /> The situation now is bad. There’s not a lot of people who can break through that kimono-sempai (is she called Kogure-sempai or something?). Maybe Yuuji and Kirishima-san can get through safely, but they will have to bear the heavy mission of breaking through A class’ checkpoints. We can’t let them proceed without knowing the traps within A classroom.<br /> <br /> “You don’t have to worry, Hideyoshi. They have roughly gotten information on our side, but we do have a secret weapon here. If it’s these two, they won’t be fooled by appearances, and should probably clear this successfully.”<br /> <br /> “Eh? Do we have such people?”<br /> <br /> The people from F class are being disqualified one after another, and the other ordinary boys from the other classes probably won’t be able to get through Kogure-sempai’s temptation, right?<br /> <br /> “The girls will likely be afraid of the crewcut-sempai (Natsukawa) in girls cosplay and the Mohawk-sempai (Tsunemura) and won’t proceed on…”<br /> <br /> “No, the Toko-Natsu pair won’t be able to scare us anymore. The golita got sent off like that, so it probably won’t appear again. Also, the Mohawk-sempai’s confession seems to be a tactic targeted at Hideyoshi.”<br /> <br /> That’s true. Tsunemura-sempai’s confession just now wasn’t an act as it was able to scare Hideyoshi like that. Hideyoshi will probably be able to see through it if it were an act. Speaking of which, that confession just now…is probably from deep within his heart.<br /> <br /> “Is that so…that moment was a serious move targeted at Hideyoshi…?”<br /> <br /> Seriously. Hideyoshi’s body visibly trembles once he hears that line. It seems that the confession just now left quite an emotional scar in him.<br /> <br /> “That’s how it is. That kind of dangerous attack won’t happen again.”<br /> <br /> From the his tone, it seems that he’s deliberately trying to explain it to me. Why is he explaining it over and over again to me?<br /> <br /> “So you can go on ahead safely, Akihisa and Shimada.”<br /> <br /> “Eh? What? Are you saying the secret weapon is Minami and me?”<br /> <br /> “Do, don’t joke around! You’re sending us to our deaths even after we saw such things?”<br /> <br /> Minami hugs herself as she shows a scared look, maybe because she saw the opponent’s psychological attacks one after another. Looking at her right now, we might be disqualified before we even reach the checkpoint…<br /> <br /> “Yuuji, this is really too hard. Minami’s really scared now, and even if we can really last until the checkpoint, Minami and my points won’t be able to beat the 3-A students.”<br /> <br /> It’s not like Yuuji to not even consider this.<br /> <br /> “You don’t have to think so much. Just enjoy the test of courage trip with Shimada. Shimada…listen to me, you just need to close your eyes and grab Akihisa’s hand.”<br /> <br /> “Uu…I, I’m not scared…”<br /> <br /> “Ahh, I know, I know. What I mean is, since Akihisa will be scared, I hope you’ll accompany him, Shimada. Akihisa has his own pride as a man, so he wants you to close your eyes and grab his arm.”<br /> <br /> “Is, is that so? Since you say so, Sakamoto, it’s not like I can’t close my eyes and grab Aki. But it’s not because I’m scared, and I’m not grabbing Aki because I want to be close to him!”<br /> <br /> “Well…Shimada’s not straightforward…”<br /> <br /> “Did you say something, Kinoshita!?”<br /> <br /> “No, I’d say nothing.”<br /> <br /> Minami’s stubbornness is really troublesome.”<br /> <br /> “Never mind. I don’t know exactly what’s going on, but since Yuuji says so, I’ll go in then. Let’s go, Minami.”<br /> <br /> “Uu…r, right.”<br /> <br /> “We, well, Minami-chan! If you don’t want to go in, I can…”<br /> <br /> “Uun! It’s not like I don’t want to go in! I’ve always been looking forward to it, really, really looking forward to it! Also, Aki and I were already assigned to go in! Hey, let’s go, Aki!”<br /> <br /> “AGAAH! Mi, Minami? You just need to grab the arm. You don’t have to use wrestling moves, right…”<br /> <br /> “Ahh, Akihisa, hold on a moment.”<br /> <br /> As Minami is dragging me and ready to leave the class, Yuuji suddenly calls us.<br /> <br /> “Is, is there anything, Yuuji?”<br /> <br /> We stop, and Yuuji walks over to us to whisper to me.<br /> <br /> (I’m going to give you some instructions. Once you get to that kimono girl, I want you two to hide and check whether there are any other people around and secretly come back. Understand?)<br /> <br /> (Eh? What does that mean? Won’t I be disqualified if I come back like that?)<br /> <br /> Like Yuuji, I keep my voice down.<br /> <br /> (Don’t worry. You won’t be considered disqualified unless you let out a scream higher than the limit, or if your summoned beasts lose in battle. The rules never stated that you can’t come back, so there’s no problem.)<br /> <br /> (It’s fine if there’re no problems, but is there any particular reason as to why we’re to do this?)<br /> <br /> (Alright, just hurry up and get in!)<br /> <br /> Yuuji pats my back and looks like he wants to hurry me out of the classroom.<br /> <br /> It’s simple for me to follow his instructions, but I have no idea why Yuuji wants me to do this. We’re going so far away, and he wants me to secretly come back…what is Yuuji planning to do?<br /> <br /> “Uu, never mind. Let’s do our best, Minami.”<br /> <br /> “Uuu…!”<br /> <br /> My arm that’s being grabbed onto by Minami is starting to feel numb due to lack of blood circulation, and I’m seriously worried about my arm.<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;“…Let’s go, Shimizu-san. Our battle begins.”&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;“…You’re right.”&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> As we walk into the corridor, I seem to hear some whispering.<br /> <br /> &lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 200%; border: &quot;&gt;&lt;center&gt;☆&lt;/center&gt;&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> Pa. It seems that something floats by.<br /> <br /> “Woah!”<br /> <br /> “—!!”<br /> <br /> That surprised me. Is that a cotton cloth floating by? It looks like a ghost in a cloth made from an old curtain, and it does look rather scary with the dim expression.<br /> <br /> “UBOAHHH…”<br /> <br /> “—!”<br /> <br /> This time, it’s a figure of an arm that’s dyed red turning towards an inexplicable direction. That should be someone’s summoned beast, I guess? The main person lets out a horrifying scream from the front, and the summoned beast closes in from the back…this is quite an effective move, but the sight of Kirishima-san punishing Yuuji looks a lot more disgusting than this.<br /> <br /> “It’s a little disgusting, but you can still take this, right, Minami?”<br /> <br /> “(Shakes head frantically)!”<br /> <br /> This isn’t okay at all! Minami shakes her head to refute what I said. Uu…Minami’s creating damage on my body that’s much more shocking to me here, so why is she still so scared here?<br /> <br /> We continue to head to the exit through the maze that’s made of panels and black cloth. Damn it, I can’t see the path below us clearly. We might get lost.<br /> <br /> “Speaking of which…Minami, it’s hard for me to walk when you cling onto me like this…”<br /> <br /> One of my hands is holding onto the camera, while the other one is being held on tightly by her. At this rate, even if I reach the door, I won’t be able to open it. No, the arm held so tightly by Minami, but I hope that the area below the elbow can move freely.<br /> <br /> “—(Shakes head frantically)”<br /> <br /> Not good. Minami’s clinging onto my arm tightly and unwilling to let go. Also, I think my wrist joint is going to get dislocated by her.<br /> <br /> It seems like whatever I say won’t reach her ears, so I can only move forward. Well, about that…I have to say I’ll be lying if I say that I’m not happy, but it’s kind of pitiful seeing her being so terrified. Is there anything that can divert Minami’s attention?<br /> <br /> “Ah, Minami, there’s a window over there. If you just look over outside the window, maybe you can—”<br /> <br /> The cellophane paper that’s stuck on the window limits the amount of light shining into the haunted house, but we can still see the scenery outside the classroom. I suppose Minami should be able to regain some life after seeing something familiar, right?<br /> <br /> (Kihihihihihi…! I hate…)<br /> <br /> The head of a long-necked woman floats by outside the window, and it looks real. Whose summoned beast is that? I can even see the details of the forehead floating by takes to the light. I was careless because I thought we can see the scenery outside, but such a shocking image will definitely cause a stronger fear in her.<br /> <br /> “…Sorry for that. I didn’t actually expect this.”<br /> <br /> “Uu…I don’t want this…I shouldn’t have come…let’s hurry up and go back, Aki…”<br /> <br /> Minami lifts her teary wide eyes and earnestly begs me. Uwa, isn’t that just too cute!? Not good, this isn’t the Minami I know…<br /> <br /> <br /> SHAKA!<br /> <br /> “Heh?”<br /> <br /> Suddenly, a mechanical pencil comes flying from behind, grazing my face and stabbing into the wall.<br /> <br /> Tsul…a bright red liquid slowly drops down my face.<br /> <br /> “Ah, ahaha…what kind of trap is this? It’s really direct…”<br /> <br /> This mechanical pencil that’s stabbed into the wall is made of metal, and it not only destroys the wall, it even pierced through it. This mechanism is really too scary! The rules should specify that direct attacks are forbidden, right? No matter what, that kind of dangerous thing shouldn’t be aimed at the body, right?<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;“…I won’t miss next time, you bastard swine…”&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Damn it! I feel an ever-serious killing intent coming from behind me. This isn’t just the mood of a mere test of courage tournament, but a real terror attacking me.<br /> <br /> “Mi, Minami, let’s just do our best for a little longer. We can go back to the classroom later.”<br /> <br /> “…Si, since you say so, Aki, I’ll do my best…”<br /> <br /> The weak and helpless Minami nods as well. Damn it! This really won’t be good. I really want to turn our F classroom into a haunted house to let Minami be in such a pitiful state all year around.<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;“Shimizu-san, calm down first. It’s still too early to make your move here.”&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;“Yo, you’re right. We should head to a more scary place and pull onee-sama away from that swine.”&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;“It’s a good thing the rules never specified that we can’t switch partners midway. Sakamoto-kun’s setting of the rules is really impressive.”&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Anyway, I better follow Yuuji’s instructions and try to get to that Kimono-sempai first. Yuuji wants me to reach there and then secretly head back. In that case, I can also fulfill Minami’s earnest wish of leaving this place and hurrying back.<br /> <br /> I continue to head to the target based on the vague memory I had of the monitor. Whenever there’s a point where it is scary, Minami will tense up really badly and grab my even tighter, but the killing intent behind me isn’t that obvious. I have no idea what kind of thing is behind us, but if it’s some distance away, that thing probably won’t be able to see our movements.<br /> <br /> “Speaking of which, I didn’t expect you to be so scared of haunted houses, Minami.”<br /> <br /> If I don’t say anything, Minami will probably be more terrified, so I decide to talk to her randomly.<br /> <br /> “Tha, that’s because…it can’t be helped. It’s okay if it’s German ghosts, but I don’t know anything about Japanese youkais…like how a lantern will stick out a mouth and limbs, or an ordinary girl suddenly stretching her neck really long, I don’t know anything about them at all…”<br /> <br /> Ahh, I see. Minami doesn’t know anything about how some of the youkais look like, so that’s why she’s really scared right? People will be terrified of ‘things they don’t really know about’, so it can’t be helped for Minami to be scared when she isn’t familiar with Japanese youkais.<br /> <br /> “But you should hurry up and familiarize yourself with Japan.”<br /> <br /> “It doesn’t matter…if I have to get used to that kind of thing, I might as well return back to Germany.”<br /> <br /> Minami puffs her cheeks unhappily as she says this. Does she really hate youkais…?<br /> <br /> “But Minami, it’ll be so lonely if you head back to Germany on your own…”<br /> <br /> “Of course not. I won’t feel lonely at all. I do have my friends there, so even if I go there, I won’t be alone!”<br /> <br /> Minami argues back against in a stubborn tone. Eh? Is she misunderstanding me?<br /> <br /> “Ahh, no, that’s not what I mean,”<br /> <br /> “Then what do you mean?”<br /> <br /> “The ones feeling lonely will be this bunch of friends here.”<br /> <br /> “…Eh…?”<br /> <br /> Minami can’t hide her face full of surprise after hearing me say this as she turns to look at me. Is it weird that I feel lonely?<br /> <br /> “Aki…why do you feel so lonely?”<br /> <br /> “Ah? You’re asking this? I will feel lonely.”<br /> <br /> “I’m saying, why will you feel lonely?”<br /> <br /> Minami continues to ask insistently.<br /> <br /> What? The terrified expression on her face just a moment ago has disappeared. Minami now looks ever-serious…is the answer to this question so important?”<br /> <br /> “…”<br /> <br /> Minami continues to stare right at my eyes.<br /> <br /> Since Minami is being so serious, I have to answer her question seriously.<br /> <br /> Uu…the reason why I feel lonely when a certain person is not around…I don’t know if this can be considered an answer, but I guess—<br /> <br /> “Because I’ll feel lonely when one of the friends who hangs out with me suddenly leaves.”<br /> <br /> “Normally hang ou…”<br /> <br /> “Un.”<br /> <br /> I probably won’t feel extremely lonely if someone who I don’t usually hang out with leaves. If I feel lonely when someone is leaving, it means that the person is very close to me. I guess it’s because we’re together so often…though my sister and mom are exceptions here.<br /> <br /> “You’re saying…that you hope that I remain with you…right?”<br /> <br /> “Hm? Sorta…I guess.”<br /> <br /> For some reason, I feel that the meaning’s kind of different, but I guess this is roughly what I want to convey.<br /> <br /> “The, then…”<br /> <br /> “Hm? What is it?”<br /> <br /> “Then…if I say that I’m willing to be with you forever…will you accept it, Aki?”<br /> <br /> She wants to sit beside me? Minami still wants to sit next to me, when I have the worst position, in such a bad studying environment? Even if Minami has confidence in her physical health, I don’t want her doing something stupid.<br /> <br /> “My seat and the ones around me are all very hot. Also, cold air will blow in from the gaps during winter. It’s freezing, so I better advise you not to.”<br /> <br /> “Aki, you better not answer me with such stupid words.”<br /> <br /> “Eh? Ah…yes, sorry!”<br /> <br /> What? Why is Minami throwing a tantrum at me? I feel that our conversation don’t seem to match.<br /> <br /> “That’s not what I want to hear. I want to know…”<br /> <br /> Just when Minami feels like she wants to say something—<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;“I feel that onee-sama is being fooled…I hate you…I want to curse you…&lt;/small&gt;I want to kill you!”<br /> <br /> <br /> Crck crck crck crck I feel that there’s a curse that’s being uttered really fast and getting closer to me. Thi, this is too scary!<br /> <br /> “Ky—umu!”<br /> <br /> I hurriedly cover Minami’s mouth just when she’s about to cry out. Now’s not the time to talk about sitting beside me or anything. We’ll definitely be disqualified at this rate!<br /> <br /> “Minami, I know it’s a little rough of me, but sorry.”<br /> <br /> “—Buha! There, there’s something closing in! Aki, we have to hurry up and get away from here…”<br /> <br /> Minami timidly looks over at the pitch-black darkness. To a certain extent, it’s really scary to be unable to see anything at all!<br /> <br /> “No, Minami, it’ll be scarier if we continue running away. Don’t worry, they probably won’t hurt us, so let’s calm down.”<br /> <br /> SHAKAKAKA!! (Mechanical pencils x 3)<br /> <br /> “Let’s go then. How about we run away, Minami?”<br /> <br /> “Un…”<br /> <br /> I continue to dodge the stationery flying over as Minami and I hasten our pace.<br /> <br /> What’s chasing us is definitely not a summoned beast. No, I don’t think this is the doing of the 3rd years either…<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Impact;&quot;&gt;“I won’t let you get away! I’ll continue pursuing you until I get onee-sama back, even if I have to run to the ends of the world!”&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> “Shimizu-san, you’re looking much more savage than any of the youkais around here.”<br /> <br /> <br /> The horror that’s pursuing us—the real identity of the horror may be right beside us.<br /> <br /> “—!!”<br /> <br /> Minami closes her eyes as she grabs onto my hand and runs, but in this posture, there’s a limit to how fast she can try to run faster. At this rate, we’ll probably be caught up soon.<br /> <br /> “In that case…I can only do this!”<br /> <br /> C classroom isn’t that big, so there’s practically no chance of escaping or running away from the pursuers behind us. In that case, we can only use this move to hide.<br /> <br /> “Minami, you hear me? Once I give the signal, keep your voice down and summon.”<br /> <br /> “Eh? I, I got it…I can call out my summoned beast if you want…”<br /> <br /> At this moment, we’re reaching a fork in the middle of this small maze. I deliberately bring Minami to the side blocked by a panel, hide behind it, and give the signal to her.<br /> <br /> (Now, Minami.)<br /> <br /> <br /> (Uuu…sa, summon)<br /> <br /> Minami’s summoned beast appears. Un. As expected, it’s a complete flat piece of wall.<br /> <br /> (Aki, I suddenly have an urge to really beat you up.)<br /> <br /> Minami’s instincts are so sharp it’s shocking.<br /> <br /> (You’re thinking too much here, Minami. Let’s not talk about this. Let your summoned beast stand in front of us…yes yes, just like that. Now, we need to keep quiet, so don’t let out any noises.)<br /> <br /> (It doesn’t really matter…)<br /> <br /> The chibi-sized summoned beasts before would probably be unable to block anything, so luckily, this summoned beast is about the same size as us. In that case, we probably won’t be discovered if we’re hidden behind the concrete wall.<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Impact;&quot;&gt;“Onee-sama, onee-sama…I definitely won’t let you run away…kekekekekekeke~”&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> “Shimizu-san, you’re really so evil that the surrounding air is distorted.”<br /> <br /> <br /> Minami and I hold our breaths as we wait for the evil gods to pass by.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Bts6 0175.jpg|thumb]]<br /> <br /> The demon with 2 drill braids that is dominated by her emotions doesn’t seem to notice the weirdness of the surroundings as it hurriedly passes by the path we were hiding on.<br /> <br /> To play it safe, we continue to remain where we are for a while and peer around for movements…hm, looks like it should be fine.<br /> <br /> “It’s fine now, Minami. That inexplicable youkai living in modern times seems to have gone far away.”<br /> <br /> “Re, really?”<br /> <br /> The timid Minami opens her eyes slightly.<br /> <br /> It seems that this nurikabe is blocking a small room from the wall, and there’s only Minami and me here. There’s nothing to be scared of. This is likely designed to be some sort of rubbish dump or something as there are all sorts of broken stuff here. It looks to be a messy and dirty place.<br /> <br /> “See, there isn’t anyone else here, right?”<br /> <br /> “Ye, yeah, that’s great…”<br /> <br /> Minami finally heaves a sigh of relief. It’s really great that she can regain her composure.<br /> <br /> Alright, what should we do next? Right now, we’ve already hidden ourselves just like what Yuuji instructed us, and it’s about time to head back. Also, it’ll be pitiful for Minami if she’s to see more scary things.<br /> <br /> “Let’s go back, Minami.”<br /> <br /> Minami’s summoned beast isn’t a real object, so I step outside by passing through the nurikabe. But at this moment—<br /> <br /> “Aki, hold on a moment.”<br /> <br /> For some reason, Minami’s pulling my arm. What is it? Is there still a reason for us to hide here?<br /> <br /> “What’s the matter, Minami? What happened?”<br /> <br /> &lt;small&gt;“…Let’s continue.”&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> A soft mutter reaches my ears.<br /> <br /> “Continue…the topic just now. I want to be certain of things here.”<br /> <br /> Eh? She wants me to continue…what we’re talking about just now? I remember…<br /> <br /> “You’ll feel lonely because you view me as a friend, Aki? Or—”<br /> <br /> “Eh? Mi, Minami, aren’t you getting too excited? Calm down first.”<br /> <br /> “You always get the wrong ideas, Aki. I don’t like orangutans or chimpanzees or even sloths! You’ve always been mistaken. Actually, I really like—”<br /> <br /> “You, you really like?”<br /> <br /> “—Mo, mon…st! Hafuu!”<br /> <br /> At that moment, Minami’s body lost all her strength as she collapsed onto the floor weakly. Maybe it’s because of the fear she experienced up till now that she can’t help but faint once she's relaxed.<br /> <br /> “Really…she wouldn’t admit that she’s scared even though she’s terrified to such an extent.”<br /> <br /> She already fainted, and yet she forces herself to say something like, ‘I like youkais’. Minami’s stubbornness is like a metal joint that won’t budge. If I have to say it, it’s really like Minami to protect her pride.<br /> <br /> “Since Minami fainted, I better take her back first.”<br /> <br /> I carry Minami’s lifeless body and turn back to where I came from.<br /> <br /> <br /> “BAAK!!”<br /> <br /> <br /> At this moment, some old props with faces and limbs are all moving on their own.<br /> <br /> I get it. This place I thought was the dumps is actually a place full of demons. I actually brought Minami to hide here and sealed off the place with the nurikabe. I really made Minami suffer here.<br /> <br /> &lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 200%; border: &quot;&gt;&lt;center&gt;☆&lt;/center&gt;&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> “I’m back.”<br /> <br /> I take note not to drop the unconscious Minami as I open the door to F classroom.<br /> <br /> “Ohh, you’re finally back, Akihisa. Nicely done. This operation is very successful.”<br /> <br /> Yuuji, who lifts his head from the tracking monitor, gives me a smirk. Operation successful? What does that mean?<br /> <br /> “Eh? Why? Minami fainted out of fear. We came back without doing anything.”<br /> <br /> “No, I’d dare say that you two did good.”<br /> <br /> “…(Nods nods)”<br /> <br /> “???”<br /> <br /> Even Hideyoshi and Muttsurini are praising our performances, but I really have no idea what the situation is exactly about now. Anyway, I better let Minami lie on the tatami mat first.<br /> <br /> “…”<br /> <br /> As I put Minami down, Himeji-san gives me an ever serious stare.<br /> <br /> “Hm? Himeji-san, is there something wrong?”<br /> <br /> “Ah, no, it’s nothing at all.”<br /> <br /> Himeji-san frantically waves her hands at me as she mutters ‘I should…summon up, some courage…’. Perhaps she finally decided to take part in the test of courage tournament.<br /> <br /> “Akihisa, that act just now had some effects. See for yourself.”<br /> <br /> “Hm? What is it?”<br /> <br /> Since Yuuji says so, I hurriedly bring my face over to the monitor to look.<br /> <br /> What appears on the screen is Kubo-kun and Shimizu-san, who somehow entered C classroom, and right now, they’re facing 2 3rd year-sempais.<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Impact;&quot;&gt;(Hii…fuu…ONEE-SAMA I…WILL OFFER…SACRIFICES TO…ONEE-SAMA!!)&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> (…Hey, hey, is this, your summoned beast? It’s giving off a dangerous presence here…)<br /> <br /> (No, that thing’s about the same as a human.)<br /> <br /> <br /> That sempai’s right. Shimizu-san right now looks like an evil summoned beast that belonged to Kubo-kun and fell into a dark abyss as she has lost all signs of what a human should look like. If the opponent’s summoned beasts are as scary as her, all of us now will probably be screaming in fear and getting disqualified. Kids will definitely be getting nightmares for the entire summer vacation if they see Shimizu-san’s horrifying image.<br /> <br /> <br /> (But that’s really unexpected. To think that there’s a boy who can break through Aoi’s point.)<br /> <br /> (Aoi…? Ah, you’re talking about that sempai in kimono?)<br /> <br /> (Un. You’re not fettered by Aoi’s charms…are you, someone who likes ugly people?)<br /> <br /> (No, I don’t like ugly ones, and I do understand that sempai charms.)<br /> <br /> (Really?)<br /> <br /> (Really, I used to like girls before.)<br /> <br /> <br /> But I’m more concerned about Kubo-kun now.<br /> <br /> <br /> (…Kill…you all…ugh…uu…onee-sama…)<br /> <br /> (Sempai, we better hurry up and end this before Shimizu-san stops talking in human language—summon!)<br /> <br /> (I feel that girl has lost a lot of things as a human…summon.)<br /> <br /> (It, it seems that we’ll get cursed if we don’t end this…summon)<br /> <br /> &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Impact;&quot;&gt;(…Summon…)&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> A class, Kotobuki Minato, Modern Language 289 points<br /> <br /> And <br /> <br /> A class, Nakasone Misao, Modern Language 227 points.<br /> <br /> <br /> Are the end-of-terms questions hard? Or is the top class not exactly how it looks? I see two 3rd years with scores less than 300 points, and their summoned beasts are a yuki-onna and a harpy, normal monsters at that.<br /> <br /> <br /> A class, Kubo Toshimitsu, Modern Language 388 points<br /> <br /> And <br /> <br /> D class, what was originally Shimizu Miharu, Modern Language 135 points.<br /> <br /> <br /> On the second years side, there’s a weird pairing; someone who lost his way in life, and someone who’s just bothering me. Shimizu-san’s eyes look like they’re becoming like a youkai itself…speaking of which, Shimizu-san herself looks more like a youkai than anyone else.<br /> <br /> “Can Kubo-kun’s group win?”<br /> <br /> “Well…this might be a tough battle, they should be able to do so.”<br /> <br /> Amongst the second years, Kubo-kun’s grades are enough to make him top 3. It’s too bad that he doesn’t have a unique ability to let him pass the 400 point mark &lt;!--Not a mistake here--&gt;, but I think he’ll definitely work hard to achieve this victory.<br /> <br /> “Speaking of which, will the opposing yuki-onna do a snowstorm attack or something?”<br /> <br /> Maybe this might become a battle of unique supernatural abilities like how Muttsurini’s summoned beast can transform.<br /> <br /> “No, I guess not. Only a few summoned beasts from before have this kind of ability.”<br /> <br /> “Some…”<br /> <br /> “Only those monsters with more than 400 points.”<br /> <br /> “More than 400 points, huh…”<br /> <br /> Muttsurini and Kudou-san’s health education are more than 400 points, so they would have this kind of ability…however, can Kudou-san’s be counted as a unique ability? This can really be debated.<br /> <br /> “Speaking of this, this battle…”<br /> <br /> “Will come down to beating each other blow for blow.”<br /> <br /> I’ll say that the school better hurry up and fix the summoning system. Asking the A class students to fight like that…is not going to get them motivated, let alone make them lose motivation.<br /> <br /> <br /> (Minato! I’ll deal with this boy. I’ll leave that girl (?) to you!)<br /> <br /> (You can’t, Misao. That boy has higher scores! I should attack him since I have higher scores!)<br /> <br /> (I, I don’t want to! Tha, that girl doesn’t look normal! Her eyes look like they’ll eat someone!)<br /> <br /> (I don’t want to fight her too!)<br /> <br /> <br /> “Our total points may not match the opponent, but looking at things now, I’ll say that we’re winning…”<br /> <br /> “Yeah.”<br /> <br /> “I’d thought I saw Kubo-kun turn into a messenger of death that could control 3 demons at the same time…”<br /> <br /> “…That’s a real supernatural phenomenon.”<br /> <br /> “A, Akihisa-kun…something filthy is in this school! I think Shimizu-san is inflicted by it too!”<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Impact;&quot;&gt;(Onee-sama, one-sama…Miharu’s, beloved, onee-sama…why wouldn’t…you even…look back…at me…)&lt;/span&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> Looking at Shimizu-san on the monitor now, I really worry how she’s going to take the weird stares from her classmates in the future.<br /> <br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;<br /> {{BakaTest Nav|prev=Baka to Tesuto to Syokanju:Volume6 The Third Question|next=Baka to Tesuto to Syokanju:Volume6 The Fifth Question}}<br /> &lt;/noinclude&gt;</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Sword_Art_Online:The_Day_Before&diff=227075 2013-02-18T20:37:14Z

<p>Draeke: Really? Te Day Before? Not likely</p> <hr /> <div>==The Day Before==<br /> [[Image:Sword Art Online The Day Before - 000.jpg|300px|center]]<br /> ===Part 1===<br /> <br /> Aincrad Standard Time, Year 2024, 23rd October, 9 PM.<br /> <br /> I, the level 96 swordsman, Kirito, have proposed to the level 94 fencer, Asuna, and she has accepted.<br /> <br /> <br /> Of course, this happened in a VRMMO known as Sword Art Online—a scene within a RPG. In the real world, Asuna and I have not even seen each other's faces, and in the first place, I'm not even at an age that can legally marry. —Asuna might be just about there in terms of that, though.<br /> <br /> I do not know what was the game that first adopted the «Marriage System», but marriage between fellow characters has always been popular in the world of MMOs, even back since twenty years ago. Some sort of advantage is provided to «spouses» characters in most series, so there are many cases where marriage was done for that purpose alone, and of course, with there being players who marry as a part of their earnest roleplaying, it seems there were also some among those where the in-game marriage ended up being an impetus for marriage in the real world. This is merely my own assumption, but I believe that even if all of the MMO players in the entire world were to be asked the question «Do you have any experience of marrying in a game?», it's possible that more than half of them would give an affirmative reply.<br /> <br /> However, even if it's regrettable (though I'm not quite if I should describe it as so), I have never ever married anyone, within all of the MMORPGs I have played thus far.<br /> <br /> The reason is—well, it's probably due to my weak interpersonal communication skills, but alongside that, I had absolutely no idea on what to make of the concept of an «in-game marriage». If the male character, Kirito, controlled by me, Kirigaya Kazuto, were to marry a female character, Somegirl&lt;ref&gt;Originally &quot;Dareko&quot;, or when transliterated, &quot;who-girl&quot;.&lt;/ref&gt; (fictional), controlled by a female, or perhaps a male (this is easily possible as well) who exists somewhere in this world, is it okay for me to simply interpret it as a permanently fixed party with this Somegirl-san? Or would I have to go to the extent of roleplaying my love for that Somegirl-san? Or perhaps—I would even have to be wary of that certain living being behind Somegirl-san...?<br /> <br /> To be honest, it's not like I had no experience of receiving the offer, &quot;Wanna get married （〃＾▽＾〃）&quot;, from female characters who were registered as friends or guild members in the games I played before SAO. However, in every single one of those cases, I would freeze in front of the monitor while breaking out in cold sweat and end up giving a reply like &quot;（´ノω；｀）&quot;.<br /> <br /> I was too cautious, too analytical, too nervous; even I think so myself.<br /> <br /> However, to begin with, the reason why I indulged in MMO games was because they were temporary worlds. Behind each and every character, there exist unfamiliar players with unrevealed genders and ages. As a result, it can't be helped but to wonder &quot;Who exactly is this person?&quot;. Everyone isn't quite themselves, myself included.<br /> <br /> Despite that, to me, the system, «Marriage», is to collide head-on into that recognition. Even if the marriage was within a game, one can't help but to be self-conscious when linked to a certain someone through a special relationship. Of that «certain person» moving the mouse and typing on the keyboard in the real world.<br /> <br /> As such, I shirked away from becoming permanent partners with people in net games and of course, that shouldn't have changed even in this unnatural death game, Sword Art Online. No, with their avatars and actual appearances being the same, it might provide all the more reason to keep a distance from others.<br /> <br /> However, the one who slowly dispersed, shrunk and finally erased my discomfort—or perhaps anxiety, was certainly Asuna.<br /> <br /> In the slightly less than two years since the start of the death game, though the situation differed at times, that girl did not ever disappear from my sight. She was first a casual party member of mine, and shortly after that, a comrade within the clearing group even after she joined the guild, Knights of the Blood. There was that time we investigated the strange murder case in the area together and that other time I got her to cook an S-grade food item for me. Through those exchanges with Asuna, I realized it.<br /> <br /> That in this world—and definitely in the real world as well, and just maybe in the non-fulldive MMO games I played before SAO as well, what determined whether the people before my eyes really are themselves, was my own self. If I were to leave those doubts and distance aside, they would become lies. If I were to put my trust into them and compromise, they would become real.<br /> <br /> Now, right before my eyes, there is a swordswoman named Asuna.<br /> <br /> I enjoy the time I spend with her. Asuna fighting, Asuna laughing, even Asuna getting angry, watching each and every one of those moments brings forth strong emotions in my heart. She was always within reach and it seems clear that she was interested too. When I look at Asuna now, I don't ponder upon what exactly her true self is like anymore, not even in the slightest.<br /> <br /> Hence, I proposed to Asuna.<br /> <br /> Honestly speaking, it's not that my various doubts are gone. I still do not have the conviction to claim that this emotion of mine that seeks for Asuna to be that so-called «love». I've always kept a distance from my family in the real world and ever since I've come to this world, I've relentlessly persisted on in my solo playing, making me wonder if I really did have the heart to love someone else.<br /> <br /> However, I figured I might be able to find the answer to that final doubt if I'm together with Asuna.<br /> <br /> —And, all of that was the «comprehension of marriage in SAO» I had arrived at thus far.<br /> <br /> On another topic, as it really is marriage, even if it happened in the world of a game, there are still the customary material aspects to it. To be specific, what to do about getting a new home, so to speak.<br /> <br /> We will naturally live together after marriage, but in that case, before even considering my refuge in the back alleys of the main city of Algade on the fiftieth floor, Asuna's mansionette in Salemburg, on the sixty-first floor was already slightly too cramped. Not to mention, putting the issue about the physical area aside, there are circumstances that forces us to be unable to live where we've resided in until now.<br /> <br /> The sub-leader of the guild, «Knights of the Blood», Asuna the «Flash», could be said to be the player most highly idolized in Aincrad at present.<br /> <br /> She was almost always first in the player popularity polls in the newspapers published by the information brokers, even having several fan clubs, with a major general store chain offering not a CD debut, but a RC (recording crystal) debut, though it seems that she drove them off with thrusts from her rapier.<br /> <br /> It feels like ages since her «Little Red Riding Hood» phase at the start of the death game when she kept her hooded cape on the entire time, but anyway, if the public were to know of the marriage of an idol like that, there's no doubt it would get picked up by each and every one of the newspapers, all at once.<br /> <br /> Her many fans will lament and moan, and energy might just be formed by that, eventually converting into a curse property attack, causing her partner in marriage, me, to suffer a drop in my real luck—even if you were to leave that aside, being interrogated and the like is no way to spend a newlywed life, so I would like to keep as much of the truth behind the marriage under wraps as I could.<br /> <br /> Of course, we did send messages to that girl's many friends, and my few ones, so we didn't expect it to stay a secret for long, but nevertheless, we weren't in any position to stay immersed in our honeymoon mood for too long. It has only been four days since the floor boss of the seventy-fourth floor, «The Gleameyes», has been defeated and it should take some time before the boss room on the seventy-fifth floor, the current front lines, is found, but both Asuna and I have no choice but to participate in that boss battle, even if we can desert the labyrinth tower's mapping.<br /> <br /> As such, if we could have ten days... no, two weeks... until that happens, we would have to search for a home where we could pass our time slightly more peacefully.<br /> <br /> If we list the items we have accumulated through our gameplay on the newspapers' classified section, converting most of those we have no pressing need for into col, we might just be able to afford a detached house in the area... or in other words, one within the city walls. However, if we were to set up a new home in a place like that, it would end up being found out by the information brokers on that very day. One that's on a cleared floor unfrequented by players, not to mention built on its edge and having a reasonable amount of space while not being eye-catching—such a house would be ideal.<br /> <br /> Those were rather harsh conditions, but in actual fact, I have already had an inkling of a fitting unit before I proposed.<br /> <br /> It has already been more than a year and a half since the front lines was stationed at the twenty-second floor of Aincrad. It was a low floor while being spacious, but nearly all of it was covered in deep forests, grass plains and lakes, possessing a beautiful, yet smooth topography, and furthermore, neither important quests, nor field bosses exist there. The players of the clearing group took a straight route to the labyrinth from the main town, Coral Village, scrambled up the tower with its mild degree of difficulty, defeating its boss in a number of days quite below the average back then. At the present moment, the only players who visit the twenty-second floor would probably be fishermen heading to the assorted sized lakes and woodcrafters gathering wood materials in the forests.<br /> <br /> Hence, it would be a place I haven't visited for over a year either, but for some reason, a certain spectacular view it had was fixed in my memory.<br /> <br /> It was on the day the twenty-second floor's boss was crushed, when I ran about alone, trying to clear as much of the quests I've left undone ever since I accepted them.<br /> <br /> I found a narrow, small path on the bank of the clear, blue lake, one that wouldn't be noticed unless close by. It seemed unrelated to the quests, but when I tried following the path and climbed the hill, I found a deserted detached log house erected there at the end, surrounded by a thick forest of coniferous trees.<br /> <br /> Its log walls were covered in moss here and there, while two or three saplings poked out from the roof, but it didn't give off the sense of rotting away at all. Rather, it blended in with the nature surrounding it, giving off a sense of beauty, as if it was a home owned by one of the Elven race.<br /> <br /> I quietly opened the wooden gate (as that was possible, it couldn't have belonged to another player), checked the interior with my Search skill (as it was empty, it wasn't a NPC's home either), and after I approached the terrace at its front, I finally found it. A «FOR SALE» wooden tag that hung from the door knob.<br /> <br /> Not having made it to even level 40, I could only point at the price listed on the wooden tag while I counted the number of digits, let out a sigh, and left the place behind while stubbornly glancing back over and over again. Whilst holding on the dream that someday, I will get my item storage bursting with enough col to buy this house.<br /> <br /> In actual fact, when my level was in its seventies while the fiftieth floor was conquered, there was nothing I couldn't afford if I really wanted it. But as one of the clearing group, I couldn't have a place that requires a twenty minute trip to get to the nearest teleport gate as my base of operation. In the end, I set up a refuge in the main city of the fiftieth floor, Algade, and ended up spending my sleeping time there up till several days ago.<br /> <br /> It has actually been a year and a half since I found that house in the forest on the twenty-second floor—<br /> <br /> I decided to propose to Asuna and when I thought about what to do about a new home, what immediately came to mind was that log house. I believed there was no better choice.<br /> <br /> As my proposal speech, I first revealed information on the aforementioned log house, suggested to move there and finally, I said, &quot;Let's get married&quot;.<br /> <br /> I do believe that at least a tiny part of the reason behind why Asuna replied &quot;Yes&quot; without even a trace of hesitation was thanks to the divine protection of that house.<br /> <br /> ===Part 2===<br /> <br /> And, so.<br /> <br /> It's been a night since the proposal, it's the twenty-fourth of October, sometime after 2 PM. Asuna and I visited the twenty-second floor together.<br /> <br /> We called upon the Knights of the Blood headquarters in Grandum, on the fifty-fifth floor yesterday and have already settled the request for both of us to temporarily withdraw. Even if it's temporary, we properly left the guild system-wise, with the guild emblem, the red cross, not existing on our color cursors any longer.<br /> <br /> We exited the teleport gate at the main town, Coral Village, and as we walked towards the large lake to the southwest, I casually asked Asuna at my side.<br /> <br /> &quot;Hey, how long has it been since you joined the KoB, Asuna?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Let's see...&quot;<br /> <br /> Shaking her chestnut-colored hair, the fencer lightly tilted her head.<br /> <br /> &quot;I think the leader invited me in February last year, so... it would be close to a year and a half, I guess. It was right after the boss battle on the twenty-fifth floor ended, so...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I see... The KoB was made right after half of the «Force» got annihilated, wasn't it...&quot;<br /> <br /> I glanced up at the underside of the floor above.<br /> <br /> Three floors above this peaceful one was the twenty-fifth floor of Aincrad that ended up being the next true trial for the players of the clearing group, ever since the first floor.<br /> <br /> Abnormally strong mobs, compared to those on the twenty-fourth floor, obstructed our progress immediately after we left the main city and the field's topography was as complex as a maze; its difficulty created multiple casualties even while we were en route towards the next town. There were barely any NPCs we could obtain information from, while on the other hand, there were plenty of pitfall terrain traps which led to poisonous swamps and by the time we somehow managed to reach the labyrinth tower on foot, the clearing group players were at the end of their rope.<br /> <br /> We roused ourselves with all the spirit we could muster, and the one who motivated everyone was the player who led the guild, «Aincrad Liberation Corps»—that's right, it wasn't a «Liberation Force» yet, back then—who was named Kibaou. His wanton cursing of everyone in that Kansai dialect got them into the mood through those &quot;You bastard!&quot; lines, empowering them to get back onto their feet.<br /> <br /> However. That was how Kibaou, who was unmistakably regarded as the leader of the entire clearing group back then, got hooked onto false information spread by someone with the twenty-fifth floor's boss battle right before him. With only forty or so guild members that couldn't even make up an entire raid group, they rushed into the boss room first. As a result, over half of the Liberation Corps died... and the main force of the clearing group, inclusive of Asuna and me, finally caught up to them at that point, and although we didn't escape without quite a number of casualties as well, we managed to take the monstrous boss down somehow.<br /> <br /> But the joy from crossing Aincrad's quarter point was lacking in everyone. The boss room was permeated in the cries of resentment from Kibaou, echoing throughout the place.<br /> <br /> That was where he parted from the clearing group, bringing along the comrades who were still alive, he left for the first floor on the distant bottom. And thus, they merged with the mutual aid organization, «MMO Today», active in the Starting City—it was from that huge congregation, that the «Force» was eventually formed.<br /> <br /> &quot;...The entire clearing group certainly was in a state of despair at that point... The ones fighting on the front lines were suddenly reduced to two-thirds of what they were and no one even found out who was to blame for setting up that trap, so I guess that was only to be expected. ...Everyone had sullen expressions even on the first field boss strategy meeting on the twenty-sixth floor... but, that was when the newly-formed guild, KoB, proudly marched in. All of the members were fortified in customized white and red equipment; that really had an impact, huh...&quot;<br /> <br /> As we walked on the lake's bank, I recollected what had happened back then and spoke about them in halting sentences. However, the one at my side kept awfully quiet, so I turned to take a glance and strangely enough, Asuna was growing red at her cheeks and subtly looking elsewhere. I snickered in my mind and continued on, pretending not to notice.<br /> <br /> &quot;...Especially that sub-leader who stood at the head of the group; all of us... putting Klein and I aside, even Agil was mesmerized, you know. An outfit that was the exact opposite of all of those plain ones till then, that pure white sleeveless bodice with that deep red miniskirt and those white knee highs to top things off... in that single moment, how should I say this, the hearts of those clearing group that were becoming divided all came together and...&quot;<br /> <br /> Smack! And a blunt-type attack came flying at my left shoulder, stopping just short of causing damage and interrupted my words. When I took a look, that particular sub-leader had her face in a shade of deep red and her right hand clenched into a fist.<br /> <br /> &quot;Geez! Honestly, that time was incredibly embarrassing, you know! I thought that the leader would naturally be at the front, but then with his usual composure, he went, 'I believe we could achieve a much greater effect if Asuna-kun were to stand at the front', having that serious look on, so I went out there in despair!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ha-Hah... —That reminds me, that equipment really was custom-tailored, right? Who came up with the design?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;......All of the other guild members held meetings for the design countless times while keeping it a secret from me. When they first showed it to me, I rejected it with a 'I can't wear something like this!' and was told, 'The cost of even a single set of this was colossal!' by Daizen-san with tears in his eyes, so I had no choice but to...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...I-I see.&quot;<br /> <br /> It seems that even the guild, Knights of the Blood, said to be truly the strongest with their ironclad rules, were up to pretty humorous antics at the start. That said, there was no mistaking how the debut of the KoB increased the morale of the entire clearing group at that time and have always stood at the front lines of this death game ever since then. —Even at this very moment, parties with figures clad in red and white must be carrying out fierce battles on the seventy-fifth floor, opened not so long ago...<br /> <br /> I glanced up at the underside of the upper floor once more. It seems Asuna had read my inner thoughts from merely that. While gently holding onto my left hand with her now unclenched right hand, she spoke.<br /> <br /> &quot;You defeated the seventy-fourth floor's boss mostly by yourself, Kirito-kun. You barely had even two or three pixels left in your HP bar. Even if you get away from the clearing for a little while, no one would complain.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...If the reason for my break were to be exposed, I'll probably get complaints from everyone around, though.&quot;<br /> <br /> I gave that retort sprinkled with laughter and returned Asuna's gesture. The sub-leader showed an expression unsure of whether to get angry or embarrassed and I gave a short chuckle.<br /> <br /> <br /> After going about halfway round a large lake, with a diameter of likely one kilometer, noticeably imposing Japanese cedar—or at least, coniferous trees that looked like them, were sprouting up high. When stared at closely from somewhere near those grand roots, the wide path of the lake shore could be seen splitting into a thin, narrow path heading southwest.<br /> <br /> &quot;...You found this path? You sure are just as observant of these sorts of hidden routes as always.&quot;<br /> <br /> I took those thoughts as a compliment and puffed out my chest.<br /> <br /> &quot;Back then, I didn't even have «Detection» Mob from the Searching skill, so I found it with only my eyes and instincts. You can see the house right after climbing that hill.&quot;<br /> <br /> With that, Asuna's face beamed with joy in an instant as well, this time.<br /> <br /> &quot;I wonder what the house is like, I'm really looking forward to it! Let's hurry!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;......Hey, Asuna-san, it's really a log house with nothing unusual, so even if you anticipate it that much, nothing will...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Well, it has always been my dream to live in a log house ever since I was small. I would be totally, completely and absolutely satisfied if it just has a Russian stove&lt;ref&gt;A unique type of oven/furnace used for both cooking and heating. Originally &quot;pechika&quot;.&lt;/ref&gt; and a rocking chair!&quot;<br /> <br /> Asuna quickly climbed the hill as she spoke, making me chase after her in a hurry. A rocking chair can just be bought from a furniture store, but really now, I can't possibly be expected to recall if there was a Russian stove. No, it's not definite that there wasn't one. The reason why I found the log house just ahead a year and a half before was for the sake of this very day. If this is the guidance of fate, there must be a Russian stove there as well.<br /> <br /> While praying for the existence of a chimney atop the log house's roof, I ascended the hill several seconds after Asuna. I moved beside Asuna, who was standing still in silence and searched for a chimney with my eyes opened wide.<br /> <br /> ——However.<br /> <br /> It wasn't there.<br /> <br /> Not the chimney.<br /> <br /> What spanned out before our eyes was a round space covered in verdant undergrowth, without even a single man-made object of any sort... in other words, the house itself did not exist.<br /> <br /> ===Part 3===<br /> <br /> This is the wrong place.<br /> <br /> That was the most reasonable explanation, so I apologized to Asuna and descended the hill, searching the fields nearby for two hours.<br /> <br /> However, not only was there no log house, I wasn't even able to find any other forks leading to a new small path. Climbing up the first hill another time in melancholy, I gazed through the surrounding landscape yet again.<br /> <br /> &quot;......It was here, definitely...&quot;<br /> <br /> My voice unthinkingly escaped from my mouth.<br /> <br /> A broad, lawny garden (merely empty land without a house though), within which a dense forest of coniferous trees stretches out; the towering pillars that support the outer circumference of Aincrad were visible beyond the grove of trees and at the very end was the infinite sky extending forever. This view remained fresh in my memory despite the gap of one and a half year.<br /> <br /> But that particular crucial log house did not exist. I doubt it would have any effect, but even after I tried stepping into that blank space and walking to its absolute middle, the house showed no sign of spawning.<br /> <br /> As I stood there frozen in a daze, the crunching sound of someone stepping over the undergrowth closed in, stopping right behind me.<br /> <br /> I couldn't bear to turn around. Let's move to a log house on the twenty-second floor, just the two of us; those were the words of my proposal. If that house did not exist, wouldn't the marriage proposal itself seem like a sham?<br /> <br /> &quot;Asuna... —It's true. That house really was here.&quot;<br /> <br /> It happened when I feebly spoke that line out, with my eyes lowered.<br /> <br /> Cutting in right before me, Asuna slapped down onto my shoulders before she held my face within her palms, raising it up. Those hazel eyes were no different from usual, shimmering with a gentle light.<br /> <br /> &quot;I do believe you, isn't that obvious?&quot;<br /> <br /> She gave that simple declaration, released her hands, took a few steps back and continued.<br /> <br /> &quot;It must have been demolished due to some sort of circumstances with the system. It's a pity, but still, it's a very lovely place even without the house, so I'm glad that I got you to bring me here, really.&quot;<br /> <br /> She spun around atop the emerald grass, her skirt fluttering. The scene of the afternoon rays of sunlight shining upon her long hair and silver bosom, reflecting off what hung at her waist, the glittering sheath of the rapier, «Lambent Light», was practically beautiful enough to be used for a promotional video for the game without requiring any editing.<br /> <br /> —And I doubt she read that thought of mine, but after Asuna stopped to face me, she knocked on the belt pouch at the right side of her waist and spoke.<br /> <br /> &quot;Hey, we came all this way, so let's take some photos to commemorate it. I brought a photo crystal along.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ah, aah... That's right...&quot;<br /> <br /> I responded with a smile, but perhaps sensing something from my voice and expression, there appears to be traces of concern on Asuna's face.<br /> <br /> &quot;Was it that much of a shock? That the house disappeared...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Eh, no, not really, it wasn't really...&quot;<br /> <br /> I kept my face and hands as composed as still water, but the anxiety did not leave Asuna's expression. If this is how things are, it wouldn't be possible to simply smooth over my inner thoughts anymore, so I gave up and nodded.<br /> <br /> &quot;Well... I thought of various things for today in my own way. But it wouldn't work out without the house here, so...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Oh? Like what?&quot;<br /> <br /> It was difficult explaining with those large eyes staring at me so intently, but there was no use in getting embarrassed now after I've even proposed to her. After lightly clearing my throat, I tried to first enter the explanation system-wise.<br /> <br /> &quot;Let's see. «Marriage» in SAO is rather simple if you just consider the method. Switching to the Communication tab from the Main Menu, pressing the Marriage button at the bottom of the various invitation options and then target the other party... with that, it's finished if the other party presses the OK button. There's no need to even send any documents to the government office...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;You wouldn't even have to give your greetings at my home, going, 'Please let me have your daughter!', huh.&quot;<br /> <br /> As Asuna abruptly interjected with those words, I inadvertently imagined that forced event (not to mention the one who played the father role was somehow the leader of KoB, Heathcliff), making jolts run down my spine, causing me to shiver. Seeing that, the daughter... no, Asuna giggled, so after audibly clearing my throat, I returned to the main topic.<br /> <br /> &quot;An-Anyway! It's because the process of marrying takes only around five seconds that, well, how should I say this, I want to make it so that it'll remain in Asuna's memories forever; that's what I was thinking of. But unfortunately, we are unable to hold a grand marriage ceremony, so at the very least, I hoped to properly buy a new home and figured that it would be best getting married in front of that house, so...&quot;<br /> <br /> The latter half more or less ended up as murmurs while I looked downwards, but I somehow managed to finish speaking and exhaled a breath of air.<br /> <br /> Immediately following that, I received a high-speed tackle which made me unsteady on my feet. The unexpected impact sent me falling onto my back, onto the grass, but it seemed like Asuna wasn't planning on delivering knuckle attacks after getting in a mounted position on me; she laid on my chest and gave a succinct whisper.<br /> <br /> &quot;......I'm happy.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Eh, no, well, that's just what I was thinking of.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Like I said, I'm happy. After all, Kirito-kun thought that far and tried so very hard to search for that house for me.&quot;<br /> <br /> When I took a proper look, misty tears were running down Asuna's eyes as she grinned right before me. In response to this, I pressed my chest against her as well, wrapping her slender frame within my two arms.<br /> <br /> We stayed that way, embracing each other for over two minutes on the grassy plains as a gentle breeze blew through, before Asuna's soft voice reverberated next to my ear.<br /> <br /> &quot;This is enough.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Eh...?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I already feel like I'm blessed right now. So, shall we have the marriage here and head back for today? We can look for a house another time.&quot;<br /> <br /> It's true that the afternoon rays bathing the upper floor's underside have been gaining quite the yellow tint to it. Nightfall will likely approach in another hour or two.<br /> <br /> &quot;I guess... you're right.&quot;<br /> <br /> I rose gently while still hugging onto Asuna and inspected the verdant garden that grew out, as if to encircle the coniferous forest.<br /> <br /> If we persist, we would definitely be able to find another player home that fulfils the condition of being «a detached house without monster spawns despite being outside the area, in a place with barely any visitors». It wasn't like we couldn't put a request to Argo the information broker either. Even if she's the «Rat», she wouldn't sell the coordinates to our new dwelling, probably.<br /> <br /> Hence, like what Asuna mentioned, there was no need to get all hung up on that phantasmal log house. This lawny garden was memorable enough by itself; even if SAO were to be cleared, it should remain in Asuna's—and thus, my memory for a long time to come.<br /> <br /> ......However.<br /> <br /> That is that, and this is this. Something remained stirring in a corner of my mind, completely unrelated to the marriage. If I have to describe it, I would say it was similar to an uncleared quest, with its solution unfound despite effort put in, festering under the log window.<br /> <br /> &quot;......Kirito-kun?&quot;<br /> <br /> My gaze recoiled with a start when my name was called out all of a sudden. Before I knew it, the thought, «I can tell exactly what you're thinking», showed itself on Asuna's expression right before my sight and my body stiffened up once again.<br /> <br /> &quot;Y-Yes?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...You were probably thinking, that is that and this is this, or something like that, weren't you.&quot;<br /> <br /> Gulp.<br /> <br /> A face that suited that particular emotion seemed likely to form, hence I seized the initiative of making a poker face.<br /> <br /> &quot;Eh, ju-just what would you be talking about?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I understand, you know. About your desire to find out the reason behind the disappearance of the house that was supposed to be here, at least.&quot;<br /> <br /> —And so, it appears that I possessed no talent for poker. Denying it any further in this situation would simply deepen the humiliation as I have already learnt, so I acknowledged it with a nod as well.<br /> <br /> &quot;Well, that is to say, yes... Y-You see, it's way too strange, having a player home vanish by itself and all. You said that it was due to circumstances in the system earlier, but there aren't any GMs in SAO, so it's impossible for it to have been demolished through the management's instructions. Even if it's said to be the result of a program performing a cleanup, it's not like a house with unlimited durability could rot and neither earthquakes nor volcanoes occur in Aincrad... also, as for any of the other possible causes... let's~see...&quot;<br /> <br /> I was about to enter my usual conjecture mode as I spoke, but Asuna's index finger shot forward onto my mouth.<br /> <br /> &quot;Alright, pause! ...Well, we've been together for a long time. I understand that you aren't one to leave something like that alone, at least...&quot;<br /> <br /> Before she could finish her light sigh, I cancelled our poses.<br /> <br /> &quot;Th-Then, I know this is our precious break time, but could I... have just a little time to investigate?<br /> <br /> Asuna softly went on about how she knew it would turn out like this and how it would just change the whole point of us coming, before taking in a deep breath of air and announcing thus.<br /> <br /> &quot;You'll only get until the end of tonight to investigate!&quot;<br /> <br /> ===Part 4===<br /> <br /> Among the countless terrain objects distributed over each floor of Aincrad, over ninety-nine percent of them possess the «immortal» attribute. It's applied over those from nature, such as rocks and trees, as well as those man-made, like houses and castle walls, shielding them from purposeful destruction by players.<br /> <br /> Depending on the dungeon's design, there could be «destructible walls» inside them every now and then, while «smashable rocks» and «fellable trees» could be found in the field, even if they're rare, but I have never even heard of stories involving «breakable houses». In the first place, on the very day a person were to buy a house that could be broken, a huge hole would be suddenly created while that person sleeps, with those from orange guilds flocking in through there... even such a scenario could occur. It's not like we're in the &quot;Three Little Pigs&quot; here.<br /> <br /> And thus, I could hardly imagine that the disappearance of that personal home, that log house I have once found and dreamt of, was due to destruction caused by players.<br /> <br /> &quot;...Well, that's what I believe too.&quot;<br /> <br /> Upon hearing what I had conjectured so far, Asuna nodded once and continued.<br /> <br /> &quot;Unless someone discovered an extra skill like «Land Speculation», that is.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Th-There's no point in doing any of that in a place like this, is there? The lake shore at Salemburg is another story, though.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Aah, it's true that the lakeside's expensive there. It's going for three times the cost of my room. ...But that's right, if we can't find the house here, having a detached house there as our new home might be nice.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Th-That's kind of... that might be tough with my income...&quot;<br /> <br /> It's a joke, a joke, Asuna told me as she laughed at me, who had turned pale, for a short while before her expression tensed up. Half of it switched over to the clearing group's commander mode as she stared at the empty land fixedly.<br /> <br /> &quot;In that case, let's eliminate the possibility that someone demolished it. ...Just to confirm, but the exterior and roof of player homes are outside of the range of customization, right?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Eh... what do you mean?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Look, when you buy a house, you gain control over the Customize Menu exclusive to its owner, don't you? You can install and remove furniture from there, can't you?&quot;<br /> <br /> Finally understanding what Asuna was getting at, I nodded.<br /> <br /> &quot;I see... the possibility that some other player might have bought the house, then removed the walls, roof and flooring through Customize to make it into an empty lot, huh. Hmm... I haven't lived in anything except those similar to apartments, so I haven't really seen the Customize Menu for a detached house...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Actually, I'm the same. ...That's right, I'll try asking Liz.&quot;<br /> <br /> Asuna opened her Main Menu straight away and skillfully typed out a message to her bosom friend, the blacksmith, Lisbeth.<br /> <br /> Liz was my friend, as well as the benefactor who crafted me my beloved sword, Dark Repulser, so she's in the list of those who'll be informed about the marriage between Asuna and I, one among those few players. We planned to send messages to ten or so people, including Liz, right after we're done with buying a house here and the marriage procedures—but to think it would become a discussion over residential issues instead.<br /> <br /> It appears that she received a reply immediately and after Asuna's eyes raced through the words on the window only she could see, she gave a curt nod.<br /> <br /> &quot;It looks like that the exterior and roof can't be removed or moved. Changing the colors or adding objects like bay windows or flower beds seems possible if you fork out a large sum of money, though...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...I guess even if you can change its colors, it's not like you can make the entire house transparent.&quot;<br /> <br /> Both Asuna and I have walked all over this empty land since earlier, so it's confirmed that there weren't even any sort of traces. If there was a transparent house built here, we should have already knocked our noses into it.<br /> <br /> &quot;So... what about the options? Like... some device to hide it underground?&quot;<br /> <br /> As Asuna mentioned something like that and poked the ground with the grass at her feet with the tips of her boots, I unintentionally broke into a wry smile.<br /> <br /> &quot;Haha, it's not like it's the secret base of some evil organization. In the first place, if you were to dig out a hole large enough to bury a house, you'll fall right into the floor below.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Eeh, doesn't it sound lovely. Like a home belonging to the Hobbits.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I do recall that being digging tunnels through hills... Won't the underground be dwarfs instead? See, there was that humongous underground Dwarven castle stretching tens of storeys, wasn't there.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I hate that place. It's damp in there and there were so many bug-type monsters appearing... in the first place, wasn't that really just the insides of a mountain in the field?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That's the problem with Aincrad's structure, there's a limit to the thickness of the ground, so a true to form, gigantic, RPG underground labyrinth can't be made.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It's fine not having something like that! ...Rather, are you fine with this? Chatting and all. I'm enjoying myself, so I don't mind, though.&quot;<br /> <br /> Having it pointed out by Asuna, I turned to look towards the outer circumference with a start. Scattered, wispy clouds gently flowed through a sky of deepening orange. It'll probably get dark if you give it another two hours.<br /> <br /> &quot;Th-That's right, let me see, if it's not transparent or some secret base, next would be... a mobile base? Nah, if there was an object like that, it would be a piece of cake to reach the labyrinth from the main town... so I guess an aerial fortress's out too, huh...&quot;<br /> <br /> At my words that drifted from guesses to delusions, Asuna looked up at the skies with a stumped look. On the other hand, I gazed downwards profoundly and continued earnestly pondering over the matter with my arms crossed.<br /> <br /> &quot;It doesn't look like it vanished through the Customize function. To begin with, that would mean that some other player had already bought it... So I guess it's really a phenomenon unrelated to players...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;......Hey.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That means... a field boss capable of breaking apart terrain objects...? Nah, even the fifty-sixth floor's «GeoCrawler» couldn't break through the village's gates. If such a ridiculous boss appears on the twenty-second floor, there would have been a rapid call to arms for a subjugation raid...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Hey, c'mon, Kirito-kun.&quot;<br /> <br /> With Asuna tugging away at my cloak's sleeve, I broke off my conjectures and looked at her.<br /> <br /> &quot;...What is it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;......That.&quot;<br /> <br /> Asuna had her right hand, fitted in a long, white glove, raised up, so I trailed the direction her index finger pointed towards with my sight.<br /> <br /> It was there, in the space right above a conspicuously large Japanese cedar tree, north of the empty area.<br /> <br /> Hovering unsteadily at a height almost touching the underside of the next floor, there was a single detached house— Although nearly nothing but its underside could be seen from the ground due to the angle, there was no mistake that it was the log house I was seeking, judging by its structure that was formed by a number of splendid logs.<br /> <br /> Despite the joy in finding the house without much difficulty, the surprise from it floating ninety meters above my head overshadowed that, leaving me muttering in bewilderment.<br /> <br /> &quot;......Wh-Why is... the house flying......&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;......Like what you said earlier, Kirito-kun, an option for an aerial fortress... guess that's not it, huh...&quot;<br /> <br /> Following what Asuna mentioned, I concentrated on looking through each section of the house, appearing as small as specks from here, but there doesn't seem to be any wings, balloons or propellers attached to it.<br /> <br /> On the other hand, I noticed two other new things with my sight enhanced through a skill.<br /> <br /> Firstly, there was a shimmering swirl of air much like heat haze underneath the house. That log house was likely airborne by being on something similar to a «tornado fixed in position».<br /> <br /> And the other issue.<br /> <br /> A face timidly poking out from one of the house's windows facing south and a hand frantically waving at us, who were far away on the distant bottom; there was someone there.<br /> <br /> &quot;Th-There's a person there.&quot;<br /> <br /> After I pointed it out, Asuna went &quot;Eh&quot; before she leaned her body forward.<br /> <br /> &quot;Y-You're right. ...We really can't tell whether it's a NPC or a player from this distance...&quot;<br /> <br /> The only definite difference between a player and a NPC in terms of outward appearance was limited to the color of the «Color Cursor». However, with this much distance in between, the color cursor wouldn't even show up.<br /> <br /> I still had no idea whatsoever as to why the house was flying, but if that figure was not a NPC, but a player, there was no way we could leave that alone. After all, even if it's a one in a million chance, anyone's HP would definitely turn to zero if they were to fall from that height.<br /> <br /> &quot;Wh-Which is it...&quot;<br /> <br /> It happened as Asuna and I held our breaths while gazing upwards—<br /> <br /> Suddenly, the hand that the figure was waving about withdrew, before thrusting out once more. The hand released something it held, gleaming as it reflected the rays of the yellow sunlight. It drew a slow arc in the air as it fell towards the empty land we stood on.<br /> <br /> &quot;Wo.... wo-woah...&quot;<br /> <br /> After I got to its endpoint with four strides to the right and three quick steps forward, I caught the small object with my hands. As Asuna immediately rushed after me, both of us examined it in closer detail.<br /> <br /> &quot;A bottle of recovery potion... that has already been used...?&quot;<br /> <br /> I nodded at Asuna's remark before turning up to look at the log house floating in the sky once more, and shouted.<br /> <br /> &quot;—It's a player!&quot;<br /> <br /> An empty potion bottle drained dry of its content will break apart in ten seconds if left alone and vanish. To prevent that and store it as an «Empty Bottle» item, it has to be put away into any sort of bag, or perhaps the item storage at least once. That's not an action taken by NPCs, so the possession of an empty bottle would mean that the one trapped in that flying house is a player.<br /> <br /> &quot;W-We have to help...&quot;<br /> <br /> I spoke with the small bottle held in my right hand and Asuna instantly pointed out.<br /> <br /> &quot;H-How do we!?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;.........&quot;<br /> <br /> That was a truly natural question. In Aincrad, no, in SAO, the means for players to take flight generally do not exist. If there were such a thing, one could ignore the labyrinth tower and head for the next floor... no, they could reach the final goal, the hundredth floor, in just a single flight, after all.<br /> <br /> Several months ago, I did go through the experience of grabbing onto a white dragon's tail and flying alongside Lisbeth, the smith that Asuna sent a message to earlier, but we couldn't choose where to go, there aren't any dragons on this floor, and above all, I have no desire to go through that a second time.<br /> <br /> &quot;......F-For now, let's try going directly below the house.&quot;<br /> <br /> Asuna flashed a doubtful look at my thoughtless suggestion, but soon nodded.<br /> <br /> <br /> As we stepped into the forest from the empty space, the forever overlapping branches above blocked the flying house from our view, but I walked straight ahead with a skill not part of the system, «Intuitively Walking Straight». In the forest with no landmarks for my eyes to latch onto, it was unexpectedly difficult. The trick to it is to move your legs as though they're executing an autorun... which was how I explained to Asuna the other time, although she just gave a look wondering what the heck was I going on about.<br /> <br /> Our aim was true and after merely two or three minutes since we started moving, a remarkably gigantic Japanese cedar tree came into our sight. This was unmistakably that tree growing directly under the house. Scanning upwards as I approached, I looked through the many overlapping branches, allowing me to confirm the silhouette of a lazily hovering speck.<br /> <br /> &quot;...So, what can we do? Even if we climb this cedar, it doesn't look like we can reach the house at all, you know?&quot;<br /> <br /> A question from Asuna while she walked with her view in the skies and a reply from me in the same posture.<br /> <br /> &quot;I thought a shout might reach if we were to get right below it, but... that doesn't seem possible either...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I see, if we could talk, we could receive an explanation for what happened, huh. Maybe we should really climb the tree? Shouting from the treetop might provide enough range.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;But you see, it's tough climbing coniferous trees like this... Without the «Acrobatics» skill, it might be pretty precarious...&quot;<br /> <br /> It happened then, when we got within five meters or so from the huge cedar with our faces pointed upwards.<br /> <br /> A mob's howl roared out at point-blank range, catching us unaware and we sprang up.<br /> <br /> &quot;Woof, woof woof woof!!&quot;<br /> <br /> I instinctively held on to the grip of my beloved sword, Elucidator, hanging on my back, but ceased that motion there. The reason for that was because the originator of that howl was a quadrupedal beast, with a length of approximately forty centimeters... or to be specific, a «dog».<br /> <br /> Its relatively long coat was of a pale tawny color, its eyes big and round, with a blue ribbon on its fluffy tail to boot. The color cursor showed yellow—a color for NPCs, the pets of beast tamers, or perhaps a non-active monster that hasn't been aggro-ed.<br /> <br /> &quot;Wah, how cute!&quot;<br /> <br /> As Asuna showed a reaction befitting a girl of her age, she squatted and tried to reach out with her hand, causing me to restrain her in a panic.<br /> <br /> &quot;Ho-Hold on, hold on!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Why should I, it's so cute.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I-It might be some sort of trap, you know! In the first place, it's strange having a dog in the field. What will you do if it morphs into a Dire Wolf or something the moment you touch it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Geez, it's fine, look, even its tail is wagging so much.&quot;<br /> <br /> —And during our exchange, the small dog continued its din, insisting &quot;Hug me, hug me!&quot; as it bounced about and barked in front of Asuna. While I grabbed and held onto Asuna's sword belt when she was about to squat down again, I checked the whelp's cursor once more. The name displayed was «Toto».<br /> <br /> &quot;...Toto? That shouldn't be a species name... is it a name unique to this dog...?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Wah, the name's cute too! C'mon, come here, Toto!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Like I said, you shouldn't...&quot;<br /> <br /> While I frantically tried to bring back Asuna, who was at a level of tension as if she was already afflicted with a Charmed negative status, I attempted to see through the whelp's, no, Toto's full, round eyes, searching for any fiendish schemes it might be concealing.<br /> <br /> Then, I noticed that, though belated. Floating around two centimeters atop the dog's round head, a small «?» mark.<br /> <br /> &quot;Hey... a quest mark!? But why is it in progress...?&quot;<br /> <br /> It seems that Asuna noticed the mark too, after my shout, and the vigor she showed earlier dwindled.<br /> <br /> &quot;You're right, there's a question mark on it, huh...&quot;<br /> <br /> The number of quests given out in each of Aincrad's floors was practically endless. They can generally be received from NPCs with «!» marks floating above them, while NPCs related to a quest in progress have that mark changed to a «?».<br /> <br /> In other words, that would mean that this pup was a key person, or rather, a key animal for a quest in progress. But the problem is... I have absolutely no recollection of receiving a quest related to dogs and it's likely the same for Asuna, so...<br /> <br /> &quot;Th-That's it!&quot;<br /> <br /> I ended up releasing Asuna's belt due to her sudden cry. The rapier-user spun around and continued with an intense gaze on me.<br /> <br /> &quot;We always end up having to deal with the clearing of the labyrinth and floor bosses normally, so we don't take up many sub-quests, right? That's why it ended up as a blind spot in our thoughts. If some sort of unexplainable, strange phenomenon happens, the cause is usually a quest. Like... a house flying in the sky, for example!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;......I see.&quot;<br /> <br /> I nodded as it was a plausible deduction and Asuna twirled about once again, facing the tyke that was still making a din.<br /> <br /> &quot;That is to say, if we want to find out what's behind the flying house... we would definitely have no other path than to go into contact with Toto-chan here! I know you'll understand, Kirito-kun!&quot;<br /> <br /> And, with that speech that wasn't exactly completely devoid of adventurous spirit and willingness for self-sacrifice depending on how it's interpreted, Asuna squatted down without giving me a chance to seize her and reached her two hands out to the runt.<br /> <br /> &quot;Woof woof woof!&quot;<br /> <br /> The small, tawny dog leapt into Asuna's chest with a delighted yap, licking her face while it rapidly wagged its tail.<br /> <br /> &quot;Ahaha, that tickles! Haah, it's so cute! I've always dreamed of keeping a puppy like this!&quot;<br /> <br /> —Fortunately, it doesn't seem that Toto will be transforming into a huge, man-eating wolf all of a sudden.<br /> <br /> However, the phenomenon that occurred several seconds later was beyond my expectations by approximately three light years.<br /> <br /> Without any warning, a gale blew at our feet as it spiraled around us into a swirl. The tremendous speed the wind travelled at left no opportunity for us to right our stances. Staggering, our feet left the ground—and frighteningly enough, could not reach the ground regardless of how hard we tried.<br /> <br /> &quot;Ki-Kirito-kun!&quot;<br /> <br /> I instinctively caught onto Asuna's extended left hand while she was holding onto Toto with her right. And that was how we, two persons and one animal, were whisked away in a constrained tornado. The surrounding scenery swung by us in dizzying circles while my coat's hem fluttered about prominently along with Asuna's miniskirt (a phenomenon that would never happen with the usual amount of wind in the fields), but the situation certainly didn't allow me the composure to focus on that.<br /> <br /> &quot;Wa-Waa-Waaah~&quot;, I screamed;<br /> <br /> &quot;Kyaaaa—&quot;, Asuna shrieked;<br /> <br /> &quot;Woof woof woof!!&quot;, the whelp happily barked, and that was when it happened.<br /> <br /> We soared upwards, making a beeline for the log house that was suspended up in the air far above.<br /> <br /> ===Part 5===<br /> <br /> &quot;...I-It's completely pointless if you come here toO!&lt;ref&gt;Argo has an odd speech quirk where she accents the last syllable in her sentences or sentence fragments. It is reflected in the translation by capitalizing the last letter at those positions.&lt;/ref&gt;&quot;<br /> <br /> And that was the first line from the player who asked for help in the log house.<br /> <br /> Approximately ninety seconds ago—<br /> <br /> Asuna, the dog and me were swallowed into the small tornado and flew above the roof of the flying log house, then sucked into an open chimney at its corner, one after another. Beyond the dark, narrow tunnel was a spacious living room with a plain wood finishing and an astounded female player stood alone before us, who landed on our bums.<br /> <br /> To re-activate her head that was frozen by the stunning turn of events, I stared intently at the prior visitor while sitting on the floor. Surprisingly, her face was one I was extremely acquainted with, but as I didn't have the energy to express my shock yet again, I tried saying some greetings.<br /> <br /> &quot;Good day. Long time no see.&quot;<br /> <br /> And that was how the exclamation from earlier came about.<br /> <br /> <br /> One way or another, we should first exchange our information.<br /> <br /> And that female player agreed and loosened the tension in her shoulders at my suggestion, pointing at the round table set up on the living room's floor with her right hand. After Asuna, still clutching onto the dog, and I sat down side-by-side, the girl took a seat as well, a large distance away, on the opposite side.<br /> <br /> It seems Asuna had finally returned to her usual mode by this time and greeted the female player who was a mutual acquaintance of ours.<br /> <br /> &quot;It's been a while, Argo-san.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Hello, Aa-chan. And you too, Ki-bou.&quot;<br /> <br /> Patterns of three whiskers were distinctly painted onto each of the cheeks of this female player who waved her hand nimbly with a delicate expression on. The name of this girl who stuck to this face paint for roughly the two years since the start of the death game, no, adding one month on when including the beta period, was «Argo the Rat». Aincrad's most resourceful information broker.<br /> <br /> She was an associate of Asuna and I since the starting of the game, selling and buying information from us countless times. Aside from that, we have saved and gotten saved by each other on several occasions, but there were clearly no feelings of antagonism between us. Hence, it doesn't make sense for Argo to display caution towards us like what she was doing now of all times, but let's just put that aside and get to the main topic.<br /> <br /> &quot;——So. Argo, what exactly happened?&quot;<br /> <br /> This was a question asked as I waved my right hand around, indicating the entire log house which was radically flying, even now, and the information broker's two eyes blinked incessantly deep within her golden auburn curly hair.<br /> <br /> &quot;What you ask, Ki-bou, if you've gotten in 't this far, you should've gotten 't too, righT? It's a quesT, a quesT!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ah, aah... well...&quot;<br /> <br /> When I glanced at the tyke dozing off while held at Asuna's chest, the ? mark above its head was lit up. In other words, it meant that some sort of quest was in progress, but—<br /> <br /> &quot;But rather than receiving a quest, it clearly feels like we've been dragged into one, you know...&quot;<br /> <br /> I said that and Asuna gave a curt nod as well.<br /> <br /> &quot;That's right. We got blown here merely by me picking up this kid, after all. How should I say this... it's like I picked up a quest that someone left behind halfway, that's what it feels... like...&quot;<br /> <br /> Her mouth suddenly shut close after saying that and she met my glance. I instantly realized what the girl had figured out.<br /> <br /> If «a quest that someone left behind halfway» was what brought around this situation, the one responsible could be no one other than this Argo the Rat right before our eyes.<br /> <br /> Argo lowered her head as though she understood what was up when Asuna's and my sight flicked towards her simultaneously, and spoke.<br /> <br /> &quot;......I'll start from the beginninG.&quot;<br /> <br /> —Recently, I got the information that several strange new quests have been occurring on the lower floors of AincraD. Like a masked ogre that revives over and over again even when defeated, or a jump spinning, fire-breathing tortoise, or a white-clothed female undead creeping out from a cursed message windoW.<br /> <br /> <br /> —'Twouldn't be possible to publish the «Complete Quest Walkthrough Guide Book» if I didn't get information on the new quests immediately. That's why, the day before yesterday, I came to investigate this southwestern area of the twenty-second floor, where there were rumors of a new quest and 'twas fine until I succeeded in finding the quest's starting point, but there was a slight complication with the quest's descriptioN. When I leapt into this house without bringing along the key character required to proceed with the story, the house was suddenly engulfed in a tornado, totally surprising mE!<br /> <br /> And that's why for the two days after that, I was stuck inside this flying house, waiting for someone to reset this quesT.<br /> <br /> <br /> When her explanation reached that point, Argo spread her arms out in exasperation.<br /> <br /> «Resetting a quest» was the action of returning a partially-finished quest that has been left alone for a long time to its initial state, through a menu operation. There were quests that couldn't be taken up by other players at the same time in SAO, though few, so such a mechanism was prepared. Of course, you would have to first get close to the NPC who was the starting point, though.<br /> <br /> In other words, if we opened the Quest tab in the Main Menu when we noticed that ? mark above the head of that pup, «Toto», below that cedar tree, the reset button—might have been there. However, now that we got on the quest, neither Asuna nor I would be able to reset.<br /> <br /> &quot;...Well, I more or less understand the situation now, but... there are still parts I don't get. Argo, what did you mean by the 'complication with the quest's description' earlier?&quot;<br /> <br /> When I voiced out the doubt that naturally came to me, the information broker made the aforementioned delicate expression and sneaked glances at Asuna... or to be specific, the small, moving object sleeping in Asuna's arms.<br /> <br /> &quot;W-Well, that'S... even I have things I'm good at and those that I'm not reallY...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Aah, so that's it. Argo-san, so you're bad with dogs!&quot;<br /> <br /> And in that moment, Asuna completely saw through her with a smile on which caused the three whiskers on the information broker's cheeks to narrow.<br /> <br /> &quot;I-I can't help 'T, that's just how my base stats werE! And Aa-chan, I heard the news that you're bad with Astral-type mobs toO!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Th-That's because those are ghosts! It's only natural to be scared of ghosts. But puppies are cute, you know? Here, how about you try hugging it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;St-Stop 't! Just let 't continue sleeping therE!&quot;<br /> <br /> —And leaving aside Argo and Asuna, who were showing their intimacy through their actions, I took some time to ponder.<br /> <br /> If Argo (despite being a «Rat») was bad with dogs, the fact that the quest in progress mark atop the dog's head was lit up means...<br /> <br /> &quot;Hahah, I get it. Argo, you managed to start the quest, but with the key character being a dog, you dashed away with all your AGI and after you jumped into this house, the quest continued making you fly up, but got stuck because the dog couldn't enter the house, getting you trapped here in the sky for two whole days... that's it, huh. Hahaha, looks like you've been through a pretty fun experience, huh. If you put stories of your experiences in a book like, &quot;Argo's Great Adventures&quot;, in the future, it'll sell.&quot;<br /> <br /> Upon hearing my talk while laughing, the Rat momentarily made a face that said, &quot;Will it really selL?&quot; before she shouted.<br /> <br /> &quot;'Tis no laughing matter, Ki-bou! With things this way, both Aa-chan and you are stuck now too, you know!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Don't make such a fuss about it, at the most, we'll just have to use a teleport crystal to travel to some other city, right?&quot;<br /> <br /> It happened just as I was about to start laughing again after replying so—an odd expression appeared on Argo's and Asuna's faces at the same time. They exchanged a quick glance and Asuna took the initiative to open her mouth.<br /> <br /> &quot;...Hey, Kirito-kun. I don't think there's any chance that Argo-san hasn't tried that out yet.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Heh?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It depends on the quest, but during these compulsory events, most of them prevent teleporting, don't they? Right, Argo-san?<br /> <br /> &quot;Of course 't does!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;......Seriously?&quot;<br /> <br /> Seeing me finally breaking out in a cold sweat, Argo replied with a nod and an expression that seemed to show her disappointment.<br /> <br /> &quot;Well, as a last resort, there's always still jumping out from the window and teleporting immediately before crashing into the grounD... I don't quite want to try that, reallY.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I-I don't want to do it either, reallY...&quot;<br /> <br /> I took a peek out at the sky extending out beyond the window and realized something after all that side-tracking.<br /> <br /> In the first place, what exactly happened on this quest. If one were to receive the quest from the dog in the forest and enter the house together, the house will take flight through the tornado? The links between each part of the story make too little sense at this point. The ones in charge of the SAO game servers' administration should have already been separated from Argus, the developers, so it's not like the quest's scenario could have been written by staff from Argus. In that case, exactly who was one who thought up these illogical developments? And at the present moment when the GM Call does not function, how can we escape from this stuck status...?<br /> <br /> &quot;.....Wait, hold on, now that I think about it.&quot;<br /> <br /> Asuna, who was stroking Toto's head, and Argo, who was looking in that direction with a wary glance, turned in unison at my words.<br /> <br /> &quot;If the reason why this quest got stuck was because the dog... Toto was left behind on the ground, that should have been dealt with already... —So, doesn't that mean that the quest should have been back in motion...?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ah...!&quot;<br /> <br /> Argo snapped her fingers and dashed right beside the window in a breakneck motion. She looked down towards the ground and instantly shouted.<br /> <br /> &quot;W-We're movinG! Or rather, it looks we're nearly going to lanD!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;R-Really!? Thank goodness, looks like we'll be able to go back before it gets dark.&quot;<br /> <br /> Asuna spoke, relieved while looking towards the windows as well, but I couldn't be as optimistic. You could call it a hunch.<br /> <br /> Having an introduction of making an entire house take flight was rather major as a quest. A story that starts this flashy was unlikely to end so easily. In all likelihood, it would make us go this way to search for something, go that way to help someone out... I believe such a development would definitely happen. First of all, even if we work hard at clearing the quest, there was no guarantee that this log house will return to its previous status of being on sale. In that case, would Asuna and I really be able to marry...<br /> <br /> &quot;Ugh.&quot;<br /> <br /> I gave a weak moan and took a look at Argo's meager frame from behind as she kept a subtle distance away from (the dog within the arms of) Asuna.<br /> <br /> She was an old friend of mine, but there was no way I could let her find out about my marriage with Asuna before it happened. If the cat gets out of the bag, an article will end up on the newspaper, «Weekly Argo», with a flourish and I will be cursed to death by everyone in Asuna's fan clubs.<br /> <br /> Hence, it's risky to have her stick around for too long to complete the quest. There's no choice, but to clear it in haste and say &quot;Good work!&quot; before the «Rat's» nose senses something.<br /> <br /> At roughly the same time as I got up while making up my mind, a dull sound rang out from the log house, announcing its arrival at a location unknown to us.<br /> <br /> ===Part 6===<br /> <br /> &quot;...Now that I think about it, what was the name of this quest?<br /> <br /> Argo opened a window at my question and answered.<br /> <br /> &quot;«Witch of the West and the Three Treasures», 't sayS.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...How common. And the build-up was so surreal too...&quot;<br /> <br /> It was the first time stepping onto the ground firmly for Argo in two days, whereas fifteen minutes for Asuna and me, and what stood before the three of us was the next key character shaking about as its body wobbled.<br /> <br /> However, once again, it wasn't a human. Its torso joined into a cross by wooden poles, it was a doll with a round, stuffed head of hemp fiber—namely, a scarecrow. Despite its humorous appearance, it was a splendid monster. These were often placed in horror-type floors, a mob of the «Scarecrow» type.<br /> <br /> What came to meet us wasn't merely the scarecrow. On the left was a hollow set of plate armor, a monster of the «Living Armor» type. And on the right was a lion head atop a human body, a monster of the «Werelion» type. None of the three showed any will to attack. The color cursor also remained as the non-active yellow status.<br /> <br /> Just as I wondered what would happen now, the scarecrow suddenly spoke.<br /> <br /> &quot;Oh, we've certainly been awaiting you!&quot;<br /> <br /> Those words prompted the «!» mark floating above the scarecrow's head to change into a «?», denoting a quest in progress. At the same time, the mark vanished from the pup's head.<br /> <br /> &quot;Awaiting... you say?&quot;<br /> <br /> I gave an appropriate reply in the meantime and the scarecrow launched into a tirade, accompanied by violent swaying of its head. To sum it up, the contents are as follows.<br /> <br /> <br /> —We, «Scarecrow», «Tin» and «Lion», were out on a journey to become humans, but on our way, a female girl who was our companion got kidnapped by the «Witch of the West». We want to help her out, but the witch stole away what was in Scarecrow's head, the gem that was a substitute for Tin's heart and the golden mane that fuelled Lion's courage, so we are unable to battle. Thus, to enlist a swordsman able to fight the witch with us, we cast a tornado spell onto the dog the girl kept, «Toto», and sent it beyond the wall.<br /> <br /> <br /> &quot;Ha, hahah... I get it...&quot;<br /> <br /> Nodding, I took a glance behind.<br /> <br /> According to the map, we were currently still on the twenty-second floor, in the northwest. An area sealed off by a steep cliff, unreachable by foot. The «wall» that Scarecrow referred to was likely that cliff.<br /> <br /> I somehow understood the setup of the quest, but that did not change my assessment of the entire story as being weird. In SAO, where magic did not exist, wouldn't the problem be whether a «witch» or a «tornado spell» was even possible in the first place? And besides, putting Scarecrow and Lion aside, why exactly would the Living Armor's name be «Tin»?<br /> <br /> —And just as I racked my brains over these, as most would agree, pointless doubts, Asuna murmured all of a sudden.<br /> <br /> &quot;...I get it. What this quest is supposed to be.&quot;<br /> <br /> Continuing on, Argo nodded as well.<br /> <br /> &quot;I get 't too. No wonder the house went flyinG.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Heh? What do you mean?&quot;<br /> <br /> I asked as I looked right and left, and Asuna grinned as she voiced out something I didn't expect at all.<br /> <br /> &quot;I think you should have read it when you were a child too, Kirito-kun. Bits and pieces are different if you look at it in detail, but this quest... originated from «The Wizard of Oz»!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Ah, aah, I see, so that's it!&quot;<br /> <br /> And, that was what I shouted out, but to be honest, I couldn't recall a single thing about that tale. A girl and her pet dog were blown away by a tornado with their house and when they landed, they found themselves in a parallel world, went on adventures here and there alongside a scarecrow, a tin figure and a lion before finally returning to the real world—that was how the story went, probably.<br /> <br /> It was now clear why the Living Armor became «Tin», but I still felt anxious about what has yet to come.<br /> <br /> &quot;...If that is the case, this quest is going to be horribly long, huh...&quot;<br /> <br /> Asuna made a questioning, &quot;Why?&quot;, expression when she heard me voice that out with a sigh, so I shrugged my shoulders and continued.<br /> <br /> &quot;Well, you see, if you take a look at how it goes, we'll have to get Scarecrow's brain, Tin's heart and Lion's mane one after another, right? How long will even one of them take...&quot;<br /> <br /> Asuna and Argo exchanged looks at my grumbling and for some reason, smiled complacently.<br /> <br /> &quot;Ki-bou, you don't quite remember how the story went, do you?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ugh... no, well, that's exactly it though...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Fufu, I doubt there's any need to collect the key items. Let's skip that and march right into the witch's castle straight away!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;E-Eeeh!?&quot;<br /> <br /> I must have imagined those three faces that showed the same &quot;Eeeh&quot; emotion on Scarecrow, Tin and Lion, accompanying my yell.<br /> <br /> <br /> I checked the map once again and saw that golden «!» marks (the next objective) were displayed on three parts of the elliptical quest area, with a single grey «!» mark (the final objective, but with its flag yet to be triggered) aside from those. Thinking about it normally, it would be useless even if you go to the final destination before completing the golden marks at those three places, but there was no sign of hesitation in the steps Asuna and Argo took.<br /> <br /> The three monsters who wanted to become human and I chased, with uncertain strides, after those two who briskly proceeded through the road paved with yellow bricks. The tyke held in Asuna's arms was likely the the reason why Argo stayed a slight distance behind.<br /> <br /> Argo and I had suggested for Toto to be left behind in the log house since it had ceased its role as a key character when the quest mark atop its head vanished. However, Asuna kept hugging onto the dog firmly while uttering a &quot;Uu~&quot; with her eyes upturned, so I couldn't persist with much more than that. Personally, I don't care either way, but it seemed a little like a test of emotional strength for Argo who was apparently a dog-hating character.<br /> <br /> If she's keeping to it that thoroughly, it must be as the person herself mentioned earlier, not simply a roleplay limited to this world alone. The Argo of the real world was definitely bad with dogs as well. However, if I was in her shoes, I wonder if I could so frankly show off my inner self—my true self. Wouldn't I forcibly keep my feelings in check, putting on a composed appearance in order to retain the image that I had built up and assumed time after time in this world?<br /> <br /> Could those feelings for Asuna from a person like that really be called love......?<br /> <br /> &quot;......What do you think?&quot;<br /> <br /> I asked of one of the quest NPCs who walked at my side, the lion male who had his «courage» stolen from him, in an extremely soft voice.<br /> <br /> Most NPCs among the countless number set in Aincrad possess an algorithm that did no more than to cycle through pre-set patterns of replies, making it impossible for them to properly hold a conversation with a player. So I wasn't exactly hoping for an answer, but,<br /> <br /> &quot;...Was something taken from you as well?&quot;<br /> <br /> And the lion male gave a subdued response, so I was slightly... no, rather surprised.<br /> <br /> &quot;Hmm... well, that might be the case, huh. After all, I don't remember ever loving anyone for real until I came here.&quot;<br /> <br /> When I got carried away and answered that way, the Werelion male, who looked significantly more dispirited in comparison to those it was based on, the Werelion race that appeared near the fortieth floor, nodded with a distinctively sorrowful expression.<br /> <br /> &quot;I see. Honestly, I don't have confidence either. In whether I really had «courage» before the witch stole my mane from me.&quot;<br /> <br /> The lion male lowered his head with a sigh, exposing the sorry state that a portion of the mane behind his head was in, with much of it gone now as though someone went through it with a pair of clippers.<br /> <br /> When approaching it from that angle, there were stitches at the back of Scarecrow's head, as if there was once a tear in the crudely patched up cloth, while he bounced step after step at the lion male's side and a large hole closed up by an adhesive bandage could be seen on Tin's breastplate too, as he walked ahead. Each of those was probably a relic from the time that «Witch of the West» person stole the items important to the three of them.<br /> <br /> Of course, I have no recollection of my «heart to love others» being stolen by the witch. If I had lost that somewhere, it would be my own fault, keeping a distance away from those around me from young... even from my own family.<br /> <br /> In that case, I wonder where I would have to search to retrieve that heart. Would I find it if I marry Asuna and live together with her? But as the lion male had said, what if it was something I didn't have from the start as a human...?<br /> <br /> And, at that moment, as if she sensed my unease, Asuna turned back to face me from several meters in front. She tilted her head slightly to the side before showing me a smile, one no different from the usual ones she gave me. She pointed her raised right hand forward and shouted out cheerfully.<br /> <br /> &quot;Look, Kirito-kun, you can see it now!&quot;<br /> <br /> Argo clapped together the metal claws equipped on her hands without a moment's delay.<br /> <br /> &quot;If I didn't know about this quest, 't has to be an unexplored dungeoN! There's going to be plenty of untouched treasure chestS!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Hey now, even if you say that, this is the twenty-second floor, so it's obvious there won't be anything amazing.&quot;<br /> <br /> Cutting off the observation that was unlike me, I sped up to chase after those two while gazing up at the castle that appeared beyond a grove of trees. It had an excessive number of long, narrow towers reaching up, with its walls in a shade of grey close to black. Its towering visage with the skies blotched in a deepening red as a backdrop gave off an atmosphere fit for a «witch's castle».<br /> <br /> This quest should be cleared if the witch who resides deep inside there was defeated, but we can't even get in the castle right now, can we? Ordinarily, if the sub-quests at each location weren't finished and Scarecrow, Tin and Lion have not gotten their mind, heart and spirit back yet, the door to the final dungeon wouldn't open or the boss wouldn't spawn. No, rather than all that, wouldn't it be a little pitiful to just ignore what those three are searching for...<br /> <br /> Even as I pondered that issue, Asuna and Argo continued walking rapidly with that delicate distance from each other maintained, and the eerie castle gate just minutes away on our route. The black cast iron gates reaching five meters high were cleanly closed, with no sign of opening as expected—<br /> <br /> Crack, crack, clank.<br /> <br /> And following that distinct unlocking sound, the gates automatically opened to the sides, causing my mouth to open as well. The tyke held by Asuna was woofing away, but I doubt that was the cause of it opening.<br /> <br /> The two female players nodded to each other as if they predicted it, but I personally didn't get it at all. Exchanging looks with Scarecrow and company, who got their brain, heart or mane stolen, I shrugged my shoulders and stepped through the gateway.<br /> <br /> At that moment, a ferocious howl rang out and four monsters spawned within the front yard of the castle. A black panther head atop a bulky torso, they were from the Werepanther race. Witches make use of black cats, so there was no need to say that it was an appropriate choice for guards... perhaps.<br /> <br /> &quot;Gyaoooo!&quot;<br /> <br /> The panthers roared once again and the moment they unsheathed their scimitars with jagged edges, Scarecrow and the other two screamed out a shameful &quot;Eek&quot; and cowered down. It wasn't certain whether they were afflicted with the «Fear» negative status, or simply truly scared; I didn't expect much battle potential out of them, but if they're going to be like this from the start, I worry for them when we get to the boss battle.<br /> <br /> I lightly shook my head and drew my beloved sword, Elucidator, from my back and concurrently targeted the two Werepanthers rushing in from my right. I activated the offensive single-hit, area of effect sword skill, «Serration Wave», of which not many exist for one-handed swords.<br /> <br /> The sword that was brought down onto the ground vibrated at a high frequency and a light effect similar to a saw blade spread out in a radial pattern. Two of the panther males were swallowed by that and stumbled forward. It was a technique meant to impede movement to begin with, dealing barely any damage, but they were monsters appearing in a quest on the twenty-second floor, after all. Before they could right their postures, their HP got shaved away and the panthers split apart before dissipating away in succession.<br /> <br /> The remaining two were killed by Asuna with her left hand still holding onto the tyke, and Argo who was actually pretty strong in an one-on-one situation, ending the battle in an instant. One of the panther males dropped a key with a quest item mark on it, so we used that to open a small door at the corner of the castle.<br /> <br /> I peered at the sky another time before passing through the door; violet had started to mingle into the scarlet. It was around an hour before nightfall, huh. The castle was of quite a formidable size, so it seemed like it would be hard to clear it before sunset.<br /> <br /> —As though reading my mind once again, Asuna pat my back and spoke.<br /> <br /> &quot;Don't worry, I've brought plenty of food.&quot;<br /> <br /> No, I wasn't exactly worrying about dinner, but whether I would be able to marry you within today, Asuna.<br /> <br /> I couldn't answer with that, so I simply nodded in an odd angle and Argo flippantly spoke out.<br /> <br /> &quot;I'm looking forward to thaT! I've totally caught those rumors that say Aa-chan succeeded in producing soy saucE!&quot;<br /> <br /> <br /> It has been merely ten minutes since we've infiltrated the castle belonging to the «Witch of the West».<br /> <br /> Asuna, Argo, Scarecrow, Tin, Lion, that dog and me; our party of six people + one animal have reached a large door that presumably leads to the boss room in no time at all.<br /> <br /> It's due to our battle ability level being far higher than the one suitable for the quest, but what could be considered even more unreasonable was Argo's mobility. She jumped onto balconies that really should require a detour as it was too high, or onto footholds narrow enough for even me to hesitate, with ease, taking short-cuts throughout the route. Thanks to that, there were still tinges of red in the sky from what I could see through a small window.<br /> <br /> &quot;...Shall we have the food after the boss battle?&quot;<br /> <br /> Asuna asked, seemingly rather amazed, and Argo calmly nodded with a &quot;Guess sO&quot;. The monster trio had the usual is-this-really-alright faces on, but their representative, Scarecrow, bounced forward and the single stitch on its cloth head that served as its mouth moved.<br /> <br /> &quot;...The «Witch of the West» uses various terrifying spells. If only my head wasn't quite so empty, I could remember how those spells went...&quot;<br /> <br /> ...As I thought, we really should have dealt with it in sequence through each sub-quest. That was what I thought, but Asuna pat Scarecrow's shoulder (or at least, the pole that served as it), showing no sign of worry.<br /> <br /> &quot;It's alright, if the three of you put your strength together, we'll definitely be able to save Do... that girl who's your friend. Now, let's go.&quot;<br /> <br /> Finishing her speech, she turned a gallant arc towards the front and steadfastly pushed the large door open.<br /> <br /> Inside was a rectangular, spacious area that truly gave off the feel of a boss room. The moment we stepped in, creepy green candles on the chandelier attached to the high ceiling lit up. Our viewpoints gradually grew brighter, allowing us to spot a big cage placed near the wall on the other side.<br /> <br /> The captured young girl collapsed in the cage—beside her, a black-clothed hag stirred away at an enormous, simmering pot with a long ladle.<br /> <br /> &quot;Ooh... that's a witchy witch...&quot;<br /> <br /> My thoughts unintentionally escaped. Offensive magic generally do not exist in SAO, thus there was the belief that magicians do not exist as well, so that would make a monster with a design like that remarkably rare.<br /> <br /> Now then, what kind of attack would that granny use? Just as I was in the midst of wondering that—Scarecrow gave a sudden shout.<br /> <br /> &quot;Oh, Dorothy-san! Dorothy-san will turn into soup at this rate!&quot;<br /> <br /> Continuing on was the noise from each parts of Tin's clattery armor.<br /> <br /> &quot;Dorothy, danger, let's help, hurry!&quot;<br /> <br /> Finally, Lion tried his best to bristle a part of his closely-cropped mane.<br /> <br /> &quot;Hold on, Dorothy! We'll immediately... we'll....&quot;<br /> <br /> But at that point, Lion's mane shriveled, Tin's armor muted, and Scarecrow's shaft bent.<br /> <br /> Replacing the trio who sunk into silence, Asuna, Argo and I stepped forward. Looking at the witch who continued stirring the big pot from her side, we approached with caution.<br /> <br /> The black-robed witch raised her face and looked this way. Her eyes thinning into a complacent expression as they shone yellow, she muttered in a high-pitched voice.<br /> <br /> &quot;Wouldn't the lot of you like to drink the soup this kid makess? One mouth will return your youth, two will endow you with power; it's such a delicious, delicious soup, you know? Yii-hi-hi-hi.&quot;<br /> <br /> If we were to carelessly answer &quot;Yes&quot; here, we might just proceed straight to a forced event where the girl who seems to be called Dorothy ends up simmering in the pot, so I yelled a reply back.<br /> <br /> &quot;No! We're here to help that child!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I seee, I seee, what a pityy. In that case...&quot;<br /> <br /> That was when the witch scooped out some of what was in the pot with the ladle before vigorously exhaling.<br /> <br /> &quot;...I'll make the whole lot of you soup too! Yiii~hi-hi~~&lt;!----&gt;~!&quot;<br /> <br /> Along with that shriek, she splattered the contents of the pot towards us. That converted into a mist dyed a venomous-looking purple, enveloping all of us.<br /> <br /> At the moment, a green-framed debuff icon lit up below my HP bar at the top-left of my sight. Paralysis.<br /> <br /> &quot;Geh...&quot;<br /> <br /> Without even the time to moan, Asuna, Argo, Scarecrow and the rest collapsed onto the ground with me. For all three high levels to be unable to resist, this must be a forced paralysis event, but that doesn't change the peril of this situation. I rushed to retrieve a cure potion from my pouch, but somehow, even my right hand, which should normally be able to move when paralyzed, was numb.<br /> <br /> &quot;Hi-hi-hi... no~ow then, who shall be the first one to be boiledd...&quot;<br /> <br /> While waving around the ladle that served as a replacement for a magic wand, the witch approached in a dance-like motion. This might actually be pretty bad, I thought, desperately trying to stand, but my body was utterly incapable of movement.<br /> <br /> &quot;Yihihi, it's no use, it's no use. Nothing can break this spell aside from a lion's roar.&quot;<br /> <br /> —Oh, I see.<br /> <br /> I shifted my vision at that terribly obvious hint, somehow managing to take a look behind. Scarecrow and Tin certainly were paralyzed like us, but Lion alone did not have a debuff icon. If he were to go &quot;gao&quot; and roar just once, the paralysis for all of us should be cured.<br /> <br /> It should, but.<br /> <br /> Great. Lion was cowering down and trembling with his arms hugging his head, his mane laid completely flat. Hey hey, I retorted in my mind before finally realizing.<br /> <br /> This was inevitable. His «courage» was still with the witch. This wouldn't have been acceptable if we've finished that sub-quest, reclaiming the golden mane that was the source of his courage, but there was no way he could rise up in the current circumstances. It was a predictable outcome, so why exactly did both Asuna and Argo think that there was no need to go about doing the three sub-quests—<br /> <br /> &quot;Woof, woof woof woof!&quot;<br /> <br /> And, the energetic tyke's barks rang out, interrupting my thoughts.<br /> <br /> That wasn't all that stopped. Lion's shivering made a sudden stop as well, and its mane that would lose to no other at shriveling up was gradually swelling up, wasn't it. Why. His courage should have been lost.<br /> <br /> Lying on the ground, I opened my eyes and watched as Lion picked himself up slowly. He had his usual droopy face, but a light definitely shone within those two eyes of his.<br /> <br /> &quot;I... I am here to help Dorothy!&quot;<br /> <br /> He strongly shouted that out and sucked in the air, inhaling his chest to a large extent—Lion went &quot;garooo!&quot;, letting out a rousing roar. As though it was blown away by that lion's roar, my paralysis icon vanished.<br /> <br /> The witch tried her paralyzing attack for the second time, but Tin went next after Lion and even Scarecrow stood up after that, dispelling her charms. Perhaps having exhausted her supply of spells, the witch swung her ladle about as she ferociously charged towards us.<br /> <br /> The black-robed witch with a pointy hat on didn't look capable of weapon skills no matter how you looked at her, but the long ladle she brandished above her glowed red, slightly surprising me. As expected of a resident of this world, it seems she could command sword skills of the Poleax type.<br /> <br /> &quot;Kukeeeee——!&quot;<br /> <br /> She swung down the ladle with that shriek, but I easily took it on with my «Vertical Arc». I countered, driving her attack back, and Asuna turned towards the knocked back witch before switching in with a leap.<br /> <br /> I do wonder if she really had to continue holding onto that tyke with her left arm even in this situation, but still, as expected of her, she succeeded in invoking a sword skill. Receiving five merciless stabs, one after another, the witch got blasted away even further. It was now Argo's turn, charging in without even giving her the time to land. With a dash that would exceed even Asuna's, she went under the witch and burst straight in with skills of the Wild Dance type, using the metal claws on her two hands.<br /> <br /> As expected of a quest boss, the witch survived with barely any of her HP bar left over after suffering a skill combo from three high levels. She fell onto the floor with a thump, but stood straight up without getting stunned and ran back to the big pot deep within the hall. We were about to chase after her the moment our skill delay ended, in anticipation of her casting another spell with that mysterious soup—but it happened before we even could.<br /> <br /> The tyke, no, Toto suddenly jumped out of Asuna's arms and shot after the witch with the intensity of a bullet, biting onto her black high heels. Her leg snagged, the witch pitched forward and tumbled over with great force, plunging head first into the big, boiling pot with a splash.<br /> <br /> Seconds later, a grand monster death effect sprouted up from the inside of that soup.<br /> <br /> <br /> Having let out from the cage, the girl, Dorothy, expressed her gratitude to us repeatedly while embracing her pet dog, Toto. It seems that the girl will be continuing her travels with Scarecrow and the rest to search for «Emerald City» somewhere in this world.<br /> <br /> After seeing off Dorothy and her party at that log house from earlier, I clapped the backs of a reluctant Asuna (probably due to parting with the dog) and a relieved Argo (this was due to the dog too) at the same time. The final «!» mark of the quest was floating within the log house. We should definitely be able to return to our original position if we enter the house and close the door.<br /> <br /> &quot;Now then, let's get back.&quot;<br /> <br /> I watched the sky to the west while saying that line; the setting sun was just about to sink below the sea of clouds.<br /> <br /> ===Part 7===<br /> <br /> The scarecrow, tin figure and lion sought for a brain, a heart and courage, respectively, even in the original &quot;The Wizard of Oz&quot;—that was what Asuna taught me on the way back through the skies.<br /> <br /> However, they did not get them in the end. The Wizard of Oz said this at the end of the tale. That in saving Dorothy, who was kidnapped by the witch, Scarecrow used his wisdom, Tin expressed emotions, and Lion exhibited courage. Hence, all of you already have what you've wanted—<br /> <br /> &quot;...So that's it, huh. That's why both Argo and you knew that Lion and the rest would stand up even without clearing the sub-quests?&quot;<br /> <br /> I spoke with a bitter smile and just as the female team were about to nod in pride, the house landed with a scraping sound.<br /> <br /> Upon exiting, I confirmed that this was the empty land in the forest where I found the log house long ago. Without waiting for Asuna and me as we stood still, Argo briskly cut through the lawn and spoke with a satisfied smile on.<br /> <br /> &quot;Thanks for todaY, both of yoU. In return, I'll keep that bit of information a secret and not sell 'T.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Hah? That bit of information... what are you referring to?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;You know, don't yoU!&quot;<br /> <br /> She gave me a quick wink—<br /> <br /> &quot;I wish both of you the best, Ki-bou, Aa-chan!&quot;<br /> <br /> Leaving us both frozen in shock, Argo disappeared from our sight with the stealth of a ninja.<br /> <br /> Seconds later, Asuna started giggling, prompting me to follow along and loosen the tension in my face. As we laughed together, I felt that final thorn, that was embedded deep within my chest, vanish, leaving not a single trace behind.<br /> <br /> —What I wished for, was already within my grasp the moment I stepped forth, wanting it.<br /> <br /> [[Image:Sword Art Online The Day Before - 070.jpg|thumb]]<br /> I asked for Asuna to always be together with me and proposed. Hence, I have already found what I had lost then. The emotion of loving another.<br /> <br /> &quot;......Asuna.&quot;<br /> <br /> Upon calling her name, Asuna stared at me with a smile still on her face.<br /> <br /> I looked straight into those hazel eyes, glistening beautifully in the afterglow visible beyond the roof of the log house, and opened the Main Menu. Moving through two tabs, I softly pressed my finger against the button I was looking for.<br /> <br /> I pressed down on the word, «Marriage», and touched the name, «Asuna», next.<br /> <br /> Asuna's eyes shifted, noticing the small window appearing before her. Raising her right hand, her slender finger gently caressed the window—<br /> <br /> &quot;......Kirito-kun.&quot;<br /> <br /> Asuna whispered that single word with her eyes unwaveringly on mine and pressed down on the «YES» button.<br /> <br /> <br /> We found out the name of the autonomous control system that regulated this world, «Cardinal» a mere few days later.<br /> <br /> As for the extraordinary «Automatic Quest Generation Function» that Cardinal was installed with, we were informed about that much, much later in the future.<br /> <br /> &lt;div align=right&gt;(End)&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> &lt;/noinclude&gt;</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Seirei_Tsukai_no_Blade_Dance:Volume4_Chapter7&diff=226593 2013-02-17T05:32:50Z

<p>Draeke: Created page with &quot;Just nine more pages D: --~~~~&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>Just nine more pages D: --[[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 23:32, 16 February 2013 (CST)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Dreyakis&diff=224443 2013-02-06T15:33:31Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>=== '''Questions and Answers''' ===<br /> <br /> '''1. Are you working on the light novels or the web novels? What's the difference?'''<br /> <br /> I'm working from the Chinese translations of the light novels. The web novels were published before the light novels, but the light novels contain more content in terms of character development and extra scenes. In addition, some lines in the web novels were toned down in the light novels. (And there's more fanservice in the light novels.)<br /> <br /> '''2. When are you going to translate the Afterwords or The Late Great Favorite?'''<br /> <br /> Uh, probably some far distant time in the future. (read: never) The Afterwords and the Late Great Favorite bear no impact on the story itself. They are merely the author's thoughts as each novel comes to a close. Hence why their priority is very, very low.<br /> <br /> '''3. Hey, dude, the chapters are out of order! Why did you translate Chapter Y before Chapter X?''' <br /> <br /> Simply put, because someone signed up to do Chapter X before I did. Translators work at different speeds, so some chapters may come out ahead of the others. Everyone works at their own pace, so give them some time.<br /> <br /> '''4. So when's your next chapter coming out?''' <br /> <br /> If I got a dollar every time someone asked me this, I would be able to do this for a living. Click on the User Page tab on the top left corner and you will find my progression on the latest chapter as well as a ''rough'' estimate on when the chapter will be complete. And, no, it has been scientifically proven that asking me to work faster/harder does not improve translation speed. I am working off of PST in California, so do take that into account when looking for the new chapter on my update days.<br /> <br /> '''5. Are you going to translate all the volumes?''' <br /> <br /> Until otherwise stated, yes. Volume 5 may get delayed though, since it is a collection of side stories rather than advancing the main plot. We'll see what happens after the Nine Schools Competition. <br /> <br /> '''6. I got the chapter summaries from somewhere else, may I post them in the forums?''' <br /> <br /> Please don't. Last I heard, the chapter summaries flying everywhere absolutely killed all motivation for the translators. So...... Please don't. Please. <br /> <br /> '''7. I want to join the project, where do I sign up?''' <br /> <br /> I don't have the power to actually grant that, since I am not the project leader for MKnR, larenthian is. If you are interested in joining the project, drop by the Feedback Thread to let larenthian and Seitsuki know. Following that, inscribe your name onto the [[Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Registration_Page|Registration]] page next to which chapter you would like to work on. I will '''not''' provide RAWs, so do not ask.<br /> <br /> '''8. So what happened to your ETA or projected deadline?'''<br /> <br /> While I do receive comments regarding the accuracy of my estimated deadlines, after spending some time reflecting and looking at the overall project, I have elected to restore the function on my User Page. Ultimately, I feel that the unfortunate actions of the minority should not reflect on the benign actions of the majority. Please excuse my temporary fit of pique.<br /> <br /> '''9. I have more questions that you haven't answered here!''' <br /> <br /> Drop me a line in the comments section below. If I can't answer it, go ahead and take it to the Feedback Thread on the forums.<br /> <br /> === '''Comments'''===<br /> <br /> Thanks a lot for the translations so far. Even though a few are asking you to reconsider not translating anymore- whatever you decide has priority should come first. -IndexArcanum<br /> <br /> Thanks a lot for 5th chapter. And i also got a question, on the Mahouka page on facebook there's something called Double Act 7 which is set in the second year, can you tell something more about it and does it come as a novel or in a magazine. Again thank's a lot for 5th chapter. --[[User:Silver Horn|Silver Horn]] ([[User talk:Silver Horn|talk]]) 04:28, 16 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> Double 7 is in Dengeki Bunko or whatever that magazine is. So far, the first 2 segments (I guess chapters 0-6) have been released, and it is 2nd year as you say. It's an unedited portion and &quot;spoiler free,&quot; so it's more akin to the web novels. It would take place after Web Arc 6, of course. --[[User:EnigmaticAxiom|EnigmaticAxiom]] ([[User talk:EnigmaticAxiom|talk]]) 05:15, 16 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> Thanks for the Chapter Drey. [[User:Naavi|Naavi]] ([[User talk:Naavi|talk]]) 20:37, 16 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> Thanks for the translations Drey, always translating at warps speed,keep it up. [[User:Dual Blades|Dual Blades]] ([[User talk:Dual Blades|talk]]) 20:10, 22 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> Awesome job Dreyakis, its getting exciting with each chapter release. however, in my personal opinion, i'm not that hyped about the story spanning over two volumes. In the previous arcs i felt the transition to the next volume didn't go over so well, hell i'm still lamenting about the enrollment arc. that being said the author did improve with the nine-schools arc. maybe the author will surprise us this time. great story anyways. share your thoughts. [[User:Keisanichi|Keisanichi]] ([[User talk:Keisanichi|talk]])<br /> <br /> I had the feeling that he took his time with this chapter. But that is kinda good, because sometimes i get the bad feeling that he works to much for us and even then he is still so fast that you can by no means complain (still one of the fastest translators I seen till now) (not that we have a right to complain anyway).<br /> <br /> hey just 1 question please dont feel offended , just wondering, that are you going to fully translate the whole series in future as per now ?<br /> thanks (kakaroet)<br /> <br /> Dreyakis, what motivates you? I'd really like to know. - Alconi<br /> <br /> If you read the FAQ section by Dreyakis at the top of this page (#5) you'll see the answer is yes. --[[User:Cthaeh|Cthaeh]] ([[User talk:Cthaeh|talk]]) 08:59, 31 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please Dreyakis, update Chapter 7, where i live it's already 4th october ! I want to read it and it's killing me :p.(the end in '''Expressing Gratitude''')[[User:meintos|meintos]]<br /> <br /> ^Please don't start harassing him. He has no obligation to translate and has been doing a phenomenal job. Most people don't even post estimates on when they'll finish but he does to help us. We all want to read the chapter and we all are probably thinking the same as you but asking, putting pressure on, or otherwise demanding anything out of him doesn't help the process (it may even act as a demotivate). He's a real person and things come up. --[[User:Nuralataion|Nuralataion]] ([[User talk:Nuralataion|talk]]) 24:25, 16 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> I see Vol. 8 is starting to get translated. Is Vol. 8 Not going to be translated by you? - Ruckkus<br /> <br /> :Sashiko registered for Volume 8 first, so he will have the first crack at the chapters he would like to translate. If there are any chapters for Volume 8 not completed by the time I finish Volume 7, I will jump in to assist.<br /> <br /> === '''Expressing Gratitude''' ===<br /> <br /> Drey you are the King of translating, all hail the king!!!!!!!!--[[User:1fortis1|1fortis1]] ([[User talk:1fortis1|talk]]) 16:18, 20 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> over 200 pages in 4 days, who the heck is able to translate and type over 200 pages of text in 4 days? A god, that's who. Has it been made clear how awesome you are, Dreyakis? --[[User:PrairieEagle|PrairieEagle]] ([[User talk:PrairieEagle|talk]])<br /> <br /> Just so you know, it wasn't 200 pages in 4 days (well, it's possible he did, but that's besides the point). The ###/### is the page he is currently on compared to the page the chapter ends. Still, his pace is quite quick, and yes, he clearly is quite awesome. --[[User:EnigmaticAxiom|EnigmaticAxiom]] ([[User talk:EnigmaticAxiom|talk]]) 14:14 22, January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> :As Enigmatic surmised, I'm starting on page 220 out of 253, where the chapter ends. Trying to do 200 pages in 4 days would be pushing it even for me. I roughly put out 15 pages/day on most days, with a modest spike in production on my days off. [[User:Dreyakis|Dreyakis]] ([[User talk:Dreyakis#top|talk]]) 23:08, 22 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> Indeed. It's difficult not to appreciate just how fast and capable both Drey and zzhk are. Even given a masterful command of both English and Chinese, there's a lot of cross-referencing that has to happen when you're not translating straight from the Japanese text. The fact that they're both efficient ''and'' consistent is just staggering. &lt;br /&gt;<br /> On a different note, Drey, judging from your language ability and the fact that you hail from the ever-glorious Cali, I'm guessing you're an ABC. How is it you managed such proficiency in both English and Chinese? --[[User:Hiyono|Hiyono]] ([[User talk:Hiyono|talk]]) 16:05, 22 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I am an ABC, but I spent two years in primary school in Taiwan. The rest just happened. [[User:Dreyakis|Dreyakis]] ([[User talk:Dreyakis#top|talk]]) 22:41, 22 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> I think you should add Js06 to the list of one man army translators as well. Sure, he takes longer when translating other LNs, but when a new To Aru Majutsu no Index volume comes out, he can finish the LN in about a week or so with daily updates. Man, these guys are just incredible. - Cataccountant<br /> <br /> I swear, the term 'paying respects' shouldn't be listed here or something. It sounds so morbid...--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping|talk]]) 23:09, 22 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> ^ Totally agree. Changed the section title .. And, yay, thanks for all your efforts Dreyakis! A king among men! [[User:Wilhelmson|Wilhelmson]] ([[User talk:Wilhelmson|talk]]) 08:48, 23 January 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> Thanks for the translations :D - ありがとうございます! ]<br /> <br /> Thanks for the translations , dreyakis i'm not sure your human (you are way too fast) but thank you and ... update please i want to know what come after ! ( sorry if i made a mistake i'm french :p ,P.S. i will be the boss of your fan club in France !)[[User:meintos|meintos]]<br /> <br /> 要加油, Drey. 即使有些人在小看你，人家还是很感激你所付出的努力。--[[User:Hiyono|Hiyono]] ([[User talk:Hiyono|talk]]) 01:22, 4 February 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> First time posting like this so I'm sorry if it is in a wrong format or something. Anyway Drey just wanted to say thanks, never seen updates this fast on Baka-Tsuki before. Really glad you are the one translating my favorite LN. :D - Ruckkus<br /> <br /> Thanks For Translating Chapter 7 and all of Volume 6 Drey!!! ( And Well All Those Other Chapters) That last chapter was really long and it was great to just immerse myself in Mahouka for a solid 1-2 hours. Oh the Happiness! --- [[User:Aircool|Aircool]] ([[User talk:Aircool|talk]])<br /> <br /> Thanks for your translations! This series is my crack and every chapter is a sweet hit of ecstasy! -Vudoodude<br /> <br /> Thanks for the translations! and don't you need some rest? because the speed of your translation is just too much for a human. BUT! we're still eager to read your translation with this pace. Thank you again! -Mumalkatar<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for the update Drey. [[User:Naavi|Naavi]] ([[User talk:Naavi|talk]]) 04:26, 6 February 2013 (CST)<br /> <br /> Thank you for all of the work you have been doing. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:33, 6 February 2013 (CST)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_6_Chapter_6&diff=221554 2013-01-22T07:29:51Z

<p>Draeke: Created page with &quot;Thank you. ~~~~&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>Thank you. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 01:29, 22 January 2013 (CST)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User:Draeke&diff=203783 2012-11-08T15:27:50Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>So hello, I enjoy reading some of the novels on the site, and sometimes edit things that need to be edited, but not always.<br /> <br /> Well, happy birthday, myself.</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Campione!:Volume_8_Chapter5&diff=189473 2012-09-18T06:24:13Z

<p>Draeke: Created page with &quot;Hmm, so is this separated from the main story? In a way such that it would be okay to read without reading the previous chapters in the volume without spoiling? ~~~~&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>Hmm, so is this separated from the main story? In a way such that it would be okay to read without reading the previous chapters in the volume without spoiling? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 01:24, 18 September 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Campione!:Volume_7_Chapter3&diff=180462 2012-08-22T23:10:14Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>==@Chancs==<br /> <br /> &quot;Realizing the situation making it even harder to rescue her younger sister&quot;: the object being realized is &quot;the situation made it harder to rescue her younger sister.&quot; Using &quot;making&quot; would eliminate the predicate for &quot;the situation.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;felt a certain feeling&quot;: to feel a feeling is rather awkward, wouldn't you agree?<br /> <br /> &quot;traverse through&quot;, &quot;preventing any unauthorized entry&quot;: it is perfectly valid to traverse locations. Not that the addition of a preposition are wrong, but if the original is grammatically correct, it makes little sense to further clutter the already complicated sentence. In the same vein, &quot;any&quot; is not wrong, but redundant.<br /> <br /> Since the author inserts first person thoughts occasionally, if you want to convert them all into third person, please discuss the enforcement of such a deliberate alteration to the author's style in the forum so that it is applied consistently. Alternatively, one may want to italicize first person thoughts as florza has done, but again, an administrative decision should be made to apply it consistently across the board.<br /> <br /> &quot;Such was the initial impression one could get from this woman&quot;: clearly, an observer already received the impression in question. There is no point in weakening the certainty of the statement.<br /> <br /> Hmm, the ending seems abrupt. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:10, 22 August 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169371 2012-07-15T01:51:55Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thinking of it , they never said once that Asuna falled in love with Kirito at the first meeting right ? They said she loved him when she had seen him &quot;living&quot; the game , but being clearers , it was obvious that they had met each other a while before , for Bosses figths , while mapping or other game contents, so the two of them meeting after one month of game isn't weird right ? For the memories, do you recall all the things you've done with your acquaintances ? I can't of course , and in SAO I think there's a lot more of memories than in our real life, so memories about an other player they met and isn't that important for them isn't really worthy of being talked about in the main plot. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:49, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Dunno. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:47, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I know you don't, I was just complaining about something I have no control over, we all do it occasionally. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:50, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Haha. Too true. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> SUBBED! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:11, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll wait an hour before spoiling. Starting from your last post. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:17, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> In a sense , for all of us , it's not really spoils :) Really waiting for Ep3 ! [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:19, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, that was something else, yes, content was thrown out, Diabel was not as bad as he was in the novel, and Kirito was awesome, but mainly when he was berating the other beta testers, that laugh, wonderful, that was awesome, Egil is cool, I could very easily see the foundation that they put for the future, and finally, holy crap, they are jumping straight to Red-Nosed Reindeer? That is a massive jump. And poor Argo, completely cast aside. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> See. And besides, Red nosed reindeer was next chronologically. I mean Rondo and Crescendo aren't completely published yet. Well there's not much in Reindeer so let's hope they don't cut things out this time. At least cutting down Kirito and Asuna's time in Aria serves to address the problem I mentioned in [[Talk:Sword_Art_Online#It's weird]]. But why'd they cut down the whole plot Diabel cooked up along with Argo's scenes? I wanted to see Kiriemon at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:51, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I agree completely, but I also thoroughly enjoyed that episode. Aria did have a really deep story, and they just brushed over it. Oh well, still good, lets hope that they don't just kill everyone off in the Black Cats of the Full Moon immediately, and keep them around for at least one episode before they die. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:03, 14 July 2012 (CDT) (That sounds pretty awful, I know, but no other real way to say it)<br /> <br /> I think that's pretty simple , letting the plot of Diabel and Argo must introduce a friend character to the main one , but never use him again , that's a big problem for the public, next , the plot of Diabel about the Anneal Blade while just drag a lot of questions if they don't add the whole story about the quest to obtain it , explain the whole thing about the Beta-Test , why Diabel knows of Kirito etc , and then that will be 5 episodes of things unrelated to the main plot or to Kirito's mental state and settings [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> At about 3.5 minutes in, How does her rapier fit? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> That might be pretty hard to handle a perspective drawing with a cloak ,how tu put it , if she was just wearing a normal outfit or if the rapier was outside the cloak , we won't have this strange feeling , but , they had to draw it like the rapier comming across the cloak and this ended by having the impression of the rapier being stabbed into Asuna instead. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 18:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> &quot;Red-Nosed Reindeer&quot; will get only 1 ep and after thatcomes &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; with one ep, too. [[User:BlackP|BlackP]] 19:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Umm, okay, where did you learn about this? And if so, then how the heck do they compress Red-Nosed Reindeer into one episode, I could see that stretch three or four episodes. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 19:16, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I couldn't, if they did ALL of Aria (granted they took some stuff out) in one episode then doing the Red-Nosed Reindeer is more than doable in one episode. I wonder tho if they will do the Black Cats portion and the revival portion separate or together, since they could do it as a current event or as a flashback. That said since it seems they are going with one episode for everything like the Murder Case in episode 5 and Sicilia story in episode 4, then its likely they are gonna use the second half for ALO, which all things considering isn't that bad. I wouldn't want a full series for ALO (considering its the worst arc imo) and the ending is more conclusive then the end of the Aincard arc.<br /> <br /> Umm, sure, but where are you getting your information, and tag your name, please. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 19:40, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh, should we update the timeline to include the episodes that were featured in the anime? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 20:26, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Tag my name? In any case i got my information from episode titles, i was told this from a friend but i have no reason to doubt it as i knew the episode 3 title was Red-Nosed Reindeer since before episode 1, episode 4 is supposedly Black Swordsman and such and such. As for the timeline, the anime is simply going chronologically based of the novels events, since after all considering the way volume 1 and 2 are its best to do it chronologically, i'm just curious as to how they are going to use flashbacks as they could see animate &quot;First Day&quot; but as a flashback.<br /> <br /> Yes, tag your name, place four tilde, '~' in a row after your sentence. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 20:51, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169366 2012-07-15T01:26:20Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thinking of it , they never said once that Asuna falled in love with Kirito at the first meeting right ? They said she loved him when she had seen him &quot;living&quot; the game , but being clearers , it was obvious that they had met each other a while before , for Bosses figths , while mapping or other game contents, so the two of them meeting after one month of game isn't weird right ? For the memories, do you recall all the things you've done with your acquaintances ? I can't of course , and in SAO I think there's a lot more of memories than in our real life, so memories about an other player they met and isn't that important for them isn't really worthy of being talked about in the main plot. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:49, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Dunno. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:47, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I know you don't, I was just complaining about something I have no control over, we all do it occasionally. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:50, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Haha. Too true. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> SUBBED! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:11, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll wait an hour before spoiling. Starting from your last post. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:17, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> In a sense , for all of us , it's not really spoils :) Really waiting for Ep3 ! [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:19, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, that was something else, yes, content was thrown out, Diabel was not as bad as he was in the novel, and Kirito was awesome, but mainly when he was berating the other beta testers, that laugh, wonderful, that was awesome, Egil is cool, I could very easily see the foundation that they put for the future, and finally, holy crap, they are jumping straight to Red-Nosed Reindeer? That is a massive jump. And poor Argo, completely cast aside. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> See. And besides, Red nosed reindeer was next chronologically. I mean Rondo and Crescendo aren't completely published yet. Well there's not much in Reindeer so let's hope they don't cut things out this time. At least cutting down Kirito and Asuna's time in Aria serves to address the problem I mentioned in [[Talk:Sword_Art_Online#It's weird]]. But why'd they cut down the whole plot Diabel cooked up along with Argo's scenes? I wanted to see Kiriemon at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:51, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I agree completely, but I also thoroughly enjoyed that episode. Aria did have a really deep story, and they just brushed over it. Oh well, still good, lets hope that they don't just kill everyone off in the Black Cats of the Full Moon immediately, and keep them around for at least one episode before they die. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:03, 14 July 2012 (CDT) (That sounds pretty awful, I know, but no other real way to say it)<br /> <br /> I think that's pretty simple , letting the plot of Diabel and Argo must introduce a friend character to the main one , but never use him again , that's a big problem for the public, next , the plot of Diabel about the Anneal Blade while just drag a lot of questions if they don't add the whole story about the quest to obtain it , explain the whole thing about the Beta-Test , why Diabel knows of Kirito etc , and then that will be 5 episodes of things unrelated to the main plot or to Kirito's mental state and settings [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> At about 3.5 minutes in, How does her rapier fit? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> That might be pretty hard to handle a perspective drawing with a cloak ,how tu put it , if she was just wearing a normal outfit or if the rapier was outside the cloak , we won't have this strange feeling , but , they had to draw it like the rapier comming across the cloak and this ended by having the impression of the rapier being stabbed into Asuna instead. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 18:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> &quot;Red-Nosed Reindeer&quot; will get only 1 ep and after thatcomes &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; with one ep, too. [[User:BlackP|BlackP]] 19:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Umm, okay, where did you learn about this? And if so, then how the heck do they compress Red-Nosed Reindeer into one episode, I could see that stretch three or four episodes. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 19:16, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I couldn't, if they did ALL of Aria (granted they took some stuff out) in one episode then doing the Red-Nosed Reindeer is more than doable in one episode. I wonder tho if they will do the Black Cats portion and the revival portion separate or together, since they could do it as a current event or as a flashback. That said since it seems they are going with one episode for everything like the Murder Case in episode 5 and Sicilia story in episode 4, then its likely they are gonna use the second half for ALO, which all things considering isn't that bad. I wouldn't want a full series for ALO (considering its the worst arc imo) and the ending is more conclusive then the end of the Aincard arc.<br /> <br /> Umm, sure, but where are you getting your information, and tag your name, please. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 19:40, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh, should we update the timeline to include the episodes that were featured in the anime? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 20:26, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169357 2012-07-15T00:40:27Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thinking of it , they never said once that Asuna falled in love with Kirito at the first meeting right ? They said she loved him when she had seen him &quot;living&quot; the game , but being clearers , it was obvious that they had met each other a while before , for Bosses figths , while mapping or other game contents, so the two of them meeting after one month of game isn't weird right ? For the memories, do you recall all the things you've done with your acquaintances ? I can't of course , and in SAO I think there's a lot more of memories than in our real life, so memories about an other player they met and isn't that important for them isn't really worthy of being talked about in the main plot. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:49, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Dunno. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:47, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I know you don't, I was just complaining about something I have no control over, we all do it occasionally. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:50, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Haha. Too true. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> SUBBED! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:11, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll wait an hour before spoiling. Starting from your last post. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:17, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> In a sense , for all of us , it's not really spoils :) Really waiting for Ep3 ! [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:19, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, that was something else, yes, content was thrown out, Diabel was not as bad as he was in the novel, and Kirito was awesome, but mainly when he was berating the other beta testers, that laugh, wonderful, that was awesome, Egil is cool, I could very easily see the foundation that they put for the future, and finally, holy crap, they are jumping straight to Red-Nosed Reindeer? That is a massive jump. And poor Argo, completely cast aside. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> See. And besides, Red nosed reindeer was next chronologically. I mean Rondo and Crescendo aren't completely published yet. Well there's not much in Reindeer so let's hope they don't cut things out this time. At least cutting down Kirito and Asuna's time in Aria serves to address the problem I mentioned in [[Talk:Sword_Art_Online#It's weird]]. But why'd they cut down the whole plot Diabel cooked up along with Argo's scenes? I wanted to see Kiriemon at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:51, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I agree completely, but I also thoroughly enjoyed that episode. Aria did have a really deep story, and they just brushed over it. Oh well, still good, lets hope that they don't just kill everyone off in the Black Cats of the Full Moon immediately, and keep them around for at least one episode before they die. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:03, 14 July 2012 (CDT) (That sounds pretty awful, I know, but no other real way to say it)<br /> <br /> I think that's pretty simple , letting the plot of Diabel and Argo must introduce a friend character to the main one , but never use him again , that's a big problem for the public, next , the plot of Diabel about the Anneal Blade while just drag a lot of questions if they don't add the whole story about the quest to obtain it , explain the whole thing about the Beta-Test , why Diabel knows of Kirito etc , and then that will be 5 episodes of things unrelated to the main plot or to Kirito's mental state and settings [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> At about 3.5 minutes in, How does her rapier fit? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> That might be pretty hard to handle a perspective drawing with a cloak ,how tu put it , if she was just wearing a normal outfit or if the rapier was outside the cloak , we won't have this strange feeling , but , they had to draw it like the rapier comming across the cloak and this ended by having the impression of the rapier being stabbed into Asuna instead. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 18:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> &quot;Red-Nosed Reindeer&quot; will get only 1 ep and after thatcomes &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; with one ep, too. [[User:BlackP|BlackP]] 19:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Umm, okay, where did you learn about this? And if so, then how the heck do they compress Red-Nosed Reindeer into one episode, I could see that stretch three or four episodes. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 19:16, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I couldn't, if they did ALL of Aria (granted they took some stuff out) in one episode then doing the Red-Nosed Reindeer is more than doable in one episode. I wonder tho if they will do the Black Cats portion and the revival portion separate or together, since they could do it as a current event or as a flashback. That said since it seems they are going with one episode for everything like the Murder Case in episode 5 and Sicilia story in episode 4, then its likely they are gonna use the second half for ALO, which all things considering isn't that bad. I wouldn't want a full series for ALO (considering its the worst arc imo) and the ending is more conclusive then the end of the Aincard arc.<br /> <br /> Umm, sure, but where are you getting your information, and tag your name, please. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 19:40, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169352 2012-07-15T00:16:29Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thinking of it , they never said once that Asuna falled in love with Kirito at the first meeting right ? They said she loved him when she had seen him &quot;living&quot; the game , but being clearers , it was obvious that they had met each other a while before , for Bosses figths , while mapping or other game contents, so the two of them meeting after one month of game isn't weird right ? For the memories, do you recall all the things you've done with your acquaintances ? I can't of course , and in SAO I think there's a lot more of memories than in our real life, so memories about an other player they met and isn't that important for them isn't really worthy of being talked about in the main plot. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:49, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Dunno. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:47, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I know you don't, I was just complaining about something I have no control over, we all do it occasionally. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:50, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Haha. Too true. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> SUBBED! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:11, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll wait an hour before spoiling. Starting from your last post. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:17, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> In a sense , for all of us , it's not really spoils :) Really waiting for Ep3 ! [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:19, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, that was something else, yes, content was thrown out, Diabel was not as bad as he was in the novel, and Kirito was awesome, but mainly when he was berating the other beta testers, that laugh, wonderful, that was awesome, Egil is cool, I could very easily see the foundation that they put for the future, and finally, holy crap, they are jumping straight to Red-Nosed Reindeer? That is a massive jump. And poor Argo, completely cast aside. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> See. And besides, Red nosed reindeer was next chronologically. I mean Rondo and Crescendo aren't completely published yet. Well there's not much in Reindeer so let's hope they don't cut things out this time. At least cutting down Kirito and Asuna's time in Aria serves to address the problem I mentioned in [[Talk:Sword_Art_Online#It's weird]]. But why'd they cut down the whole plot Diabel cooked up along with Argo's scenes? I wanted to see Kiriemon at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:51, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I agree completely, but I also thoroughly enjoyed that episode. Aria did have a really deep story, and they just brushed over it. Oh well, still good, lets hope that they don't just kill everyone off in the Black Cats of the Full Moon immediately, and keep them around for at least one episode before they die. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:03, 14 July 2012 (CDT) (That sounds pretty awful, I know, but no other real way to say it)<br /> <br /> I think that's pretty simple , letting the plot of Diabel and Argo must introduce a friend character to the main one , but never use him again , that's a big problem for the public, next , the plot of Diabel about the Anneal Blade while just drag a lot of questions if they don't add the whole story about the quest to obtain it , explain the whole thing about the Beta-Test , why Diabel knows of Kirito etc , and then that will be 5 episodes of things unrelated to the main plot or to Kirito's mental state and settings [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> At about 3.5 minutes in, How does her rapier fit? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> That might be pretty hard to handle a perspective drawing with a cloak ,how tu put it , if she was just wearing a normal outfit or if the rapier was outside the cloak , we won't have this strange feeling , but , they had to draw it like the rapier comming across the cloak and this ended by having the impression of the rapier being stabbed into Asuna instead. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 18:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> &quot;Red-Nosed Reindeer&quot; will get only 1 ep and after thatcomes &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; with one ep, too. [[User:BlackP|BlackP]] 19:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Umm, okay, where did you learn about this? And if so, then how the heck do they compress Red-Nosed Reindeer into one episode, I could see that stretch three or four episodes. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 19:16, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169326 2012-07-14T23:07:44Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thinking of it , they never said once that Asuna falled in love with Kirito at the first meeting right ? They said she loved him when she had seen him &quot;living&quot; the game , but being clearers , it was obvious that they had met each other a while before , for Bosses figths , while mapping or other game contents, so the two of them meeting after one month of game isn't weird right ? For the memories, do you recall all the things you've done with your acquaintances ? I can't of course , and in SAO I think there's a lot more of memories than in our real life, so memories about an other player they met and isn't that important for them isn't really worthy of being talked about in the main plot. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:49, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Dunno. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:47, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I know you don't, I was just complaining about something I have no control over, we all do it occasionally. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:50, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Haha. Too true. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> SUBBED! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:11, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll wait an hour before spoiling. Starting from your last post. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:17, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> In a sense , for all of us , it's not really spoils :) Really waiting for Ep3 ! [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:19, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, that was something else, yes, content was thrown out, Diabel was not as bad as he was in the novel, and Kirito was awesome, but mainly when he was berating the other beta testers, that laugh, wonderful, that was awesome, Egil is cool, I could very easily see the foundation that they put for the future, and finally, holy crap, they are jumping straight to Red-Nosed Reindeer? That is a massive jump. And poor Argo, completely cast aside. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> See. And besides, Red nosed reindeer was next chronologically. I mean Rondo and Crescendo aren't completely published yet. Well there's not much in Reindeer so let's hope they don't cut things out this time. At least cutting down Kirito and Asuna's time in Aria serves to address the problem I mentioned in [[Talk:Sword_Art_Online#It's weird]]. But why'd they cut down the whole plot Diabel cooked up along with Argo's scenes? I wanted to see Kiriemon at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:51, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I agree completely, but I also thoroughly enjoyed that episode. Aria did have a really deep story, and they just brushed over it. Oh well, still good, lets hope that they don't just kill everyone off in the Black Cats of the Full Moon immediately, and keep them around for at least one episode before they die. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:03, 14 July 2012 (CDT) (That sounds pretty awful, I know, but no other real way to say it)<br /> <br /> I think that's pretty simple , letting the plot of Diabel and Argo must introduce a friend character to the main one , but never use him again , that's a big problem for the public, next , the plot of Diabel about the Anneal Blade while just drag a lot of questions if they don't add the whole story about the quest to obtain it , explain the whole thing about the Beta-Test , why Diabel knows of Kirito etc , and then that will be 5 episodes of things unrelated to the main plot or to Kirito's mental state and settings [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> At about 3.5 minutes in, How does her rapier fit? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169323 2012-07-14T23:03:47Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thinking of it , they never said once that Asuna falled in love with Kirito at the first meeting right ? They said she loved him when she had seen him &quot;living&quot; the game , but being clearers , it was obvious that they had met each other a while before , for Bosses figths , while mapping or other game contents, so the two of them meeting after one month of game isn't weird right ? For the memories, do you recall all the things you've done with your acquaintances ? I can't of course , and in SAO I think there's a lot more of memories than in our real life, so memories about an other player they met and isn't that important for them isn't really worthy of being talked about in the main plot. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:49, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Dunno. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:47, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I know you don't, I was just complaining about something I have no control over, we all do it occasionally. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:50, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Haha. Too true. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> SUBBED! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:11, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll wait an hour before spoiling. Starting from your last post. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:17, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> In a sense , for all of us , it's not really spoils :) Really waiting for Ep3 ! [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:19, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, that was something else, yes, content was thrown out, Diabel was not as bad as he was in the novel, and Kirito was awesome, but mainly when he was berating the other beta testers, that laugh, wonderful, that was awesome, Egil is cool, I could very easily see the foundation that they put for the future, and finally, holy crap, they are jumping straight to Red-Nosed Reindeer? That is a massive jump. And poor Argo, completely cast aside. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> See. And besides, Red nosed reindeer was next chronologically. I mean Rondo and Crescendo aren't completely published yet. Well there's not much in Reindeer so let's hope they don't cut things out this time. At least cutting down Kirito and Asuna's time in Aria serves to address the problem I mentioned in [[Talk:Sword_Art_Online#It's weird]]. But why'd they cut down the whole plot Diabel cooked up along with Argo's scenes? I wanted to see Kiriemon at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:51, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I agree completely, but I also thoroughly enjoyed that episode. Aria did have a really deep story, and they just brushed over it. Oh well, still good, lets hope that they don't just kill everyone off in the Black Cats of the Full Moon immediately, and keep them around for at least one episode before they die. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:03, 14 July 2012 (CDT) (That sounds pretty awful, I know, but no other real way to say it)<br /> <br /> I think that's pretty simple , letting the plot of Diabel and Argo must introduce a friend character to the main one , but never use him again , that's a big problem for the public, next , the plot of Diabel about the Anneal Blade while just drag a lot of questions if they don't add the whole story about the quest to obtain it , explain the whole thing about the Beta-Test , why Diabel knows of Kirito etc , and then that will be 5 episodes of things unrelated to the main plot or to Kirito's mental state and settings [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169306 2012-07-14T22:38:21Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thinking of it , they never said once that Asuna falled in love with Kirito at the first meeting right ? They said she loved him when she had seen him &quot;living&quot; the game , but being clearers , it was obvious that they had met each other a while before , for Bosses figths , while mapping or other game contents, so the two of them meeting after one month of game isn't weird right ? For the memories, do you recall all the things you've done with your acquaintances ? I can't of course , and in SAO I think there's a lot more of memories than in our real life, so memories about an other player they met and isn't that important for them isn't really worthy of being talked about in the main plot. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:49, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Dunno. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:47, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I know you don't, I was just complaining about something I have no control over, we all do it occasionally. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:50, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Haha. Too true. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> SUBBED! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:11, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll wait an hour before spoiling. Starting from your last post. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:17, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> In a sense , for all of us , it's not really spoils :) Really waiting for Ep3 ! [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 17:19, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, that was something else, yes, content was thrown out, Diabel was not as bad as he was in the novel, and Kirito was awesome, but mainly when he was berating the other beta testers, that laugh, wonderful, that was awesome, Egil is cool, I could very easily see the foundation that they put for the future, and finally, holy crap, they are jumping straight to Red-Nosed Reindeer? That is a massive jump. And poor Argo, completely cast aside. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169302 2012-07-14T22:11:11Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thinking of it , they never said once that Asuna falled in love with Kirito at the first meeting right ? They said she loved him when she had seen him &quot;living&quot; the game , but being clearers , it was obvious that they had met each other a while before , for Bosses figths , while mapping or other game contents, so the two of them meeting after one month of game isn't weird right ? For the memories, do you recall all the things you've done with your acquaintances ? I can't of course , and in SAO I think there's a lot more of memories than in our real life, so memories about an other player they met and isn't that important for them isn't really worthy of being talked about in the main plot. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:49, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Dunno. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:47, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I know you don't, I was just complaining about something I have no control over, we all do it occasionally. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:50, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Haha. Too true. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> SUBBED! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 17:11, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169295 2012-07-14T21:50:21Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thinking of it , they never said once that Asuna falled in love with Kirito at the first meeting right ? They said she loved him when she had seen him &quot;living&quot; the game , but being clearers , it was obvious that they had met each other a while before , for Bosses figths , while mapping or other game contents, so the two of them meeting after one month of game isn't weird right ? For the memories, do you recall all the things you've done with your acquaintances ? I can't of course , and in SAO I think there's a lot more of memories than in our real life, so memories about an other player they met and isn't that important for them isn't really worthy of being talked about in the main plot. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:49, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Dunno. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:47, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I know you don't, I was just complaining about something I have no control over, we all do it occasionally. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:50, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169289 2012-07-14T21:47:22Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169287 2012-07-14T21:45:48Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well seems they made a drastic fix in the anime. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:31, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do you want to be spoiled? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:41, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Do I? Probably not, I suppose if I did want to know right away I would have just watched the raw to see if her name came up anywhere, so don't say anything, and when are the subs coming. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:45, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169275 2012-07-14T21:29:29Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Like drops from a full bottle, true. And don't worry, I understand. Soon, you'll understand what I'm talking about as well. I'll explain in detail once the subs are out. That way you won't get spoiled and can look forward to it. The ep 2 is good, but it could have been much better. That's my stance. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:37, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Personnaly , I think Aria was made in the anime and cut in that way just to help the new comers with SAO to understand more about Kirito and not to give the whole SS scenario. [[User:Eldivah|Eldivah]] 16:05, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm. Come to think of it. That might be it. I mean there was a slight conflict between the stories of the Aria SS and the main story aka volume 1. See a few sections above if you want to know/be spoiled. I'll explain after the sub is out, but if you take into account what was needed to be done to fix that discrepancy then. Yes, I see. If it's that reason then it's alright somewhat, I guess. But there are a few parts that didn't need to be removed even if that were the case. Still, I'm warming up to the ep 2 now. I suppose time heals all wounds isn't an exaggeration after all. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:27, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will agree to that as well, and a question, did they include Argo as well in episode 2? Because she is one of my favorite characters. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:29, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169252 2012-07-14T20:20:14Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> True for the first. False for the second. The inner skin of an orange itself doesn't taste like orange you know. I'm talking about that thin white skin you see after you peel off the thick outer orange colored skin. You know, the one that holds the inner juiciness together. Besides, I'm saying it's okay. It's just that I don't like the fact that they removed all that good stuff. You'll know what I'm talking about when the subs are out. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:14, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I was just trying to get my point across, I will be sure to watch it, and I may be disappointed, but I also might not, who knows? And for that second one, the white stuff does taste like orange, at least a little bit. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169248 2012-07-14T20:07:33Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And there is a point, and the point is the orange, it is the taste of the orange, the feel of the orange, the experience of eating the orange, whether it be juice, fruit, or some viscous substance consisting of orange, orange is orange, and it tastes like orange. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:07, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169247 2012-07-14T20:02:17Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> There's no point if the anime is a mere summarization of the LN! It's like draining the juice out of an orange and forcing others to eat just the soft inner-skin. Well... it was okay for those who haven't read the LN especially Kirito's really cool part, but I don't like it that they cut all the rest of the plot (don't worry I'm not gonna spoil it). If you squeeze the plot too much it ruins it. Sigh, and they stuck to the plot with Accel World so I was looking forward and hoping... Well lets hope they do better next ep. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:57, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have not seen the episode yet, so I can not say too much, but remember that Accel World had some things that were missing as well, not so much the plot, but things that helped pull things together. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:02, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169244 2012-07-14T19:47:00Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry to burst your bubble... but they ended Aria in one ep. And they cut out a lot of stuff. This is why I hate story butchering. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:38, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, well, based off of this pace, they may very well include volumes 3 and 4, well, I'll watch it no matter what, but I hope they keep to the story. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:46, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169240 2012-07-14T19:32:19Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow (kinda like how one fills in a perfectly good water well). [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm proficient enough in '''verbal''' japanese. Plus it helps to read the novel. Damn it's like they summarized the whole side story. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:28, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Really? Dang, I had thought they would spend at least three to four episodes on Aria, but you seem to be implying that they end it in one, maybe two. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:32, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169237 2012-07-14T19:22:27Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If he doesn't, there are copies in picture format at http://www.manga-zone.org/archives/2468.html <br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Urgh. Well, ep 2 is okay, I guess. But I don't like the fact that they removed so much. It's like the depth of the story has been filled in till the plot becomes shallow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:20, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wait, is it subbed? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 14:22, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169226 2012-07-14T18:09:40Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh hey, there is the raw. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:09, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=169225 2012-07-14T18:08:05Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> GJ. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:04, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Better than having the story butchered or cut short in the middle. I've always thought 12-13 eps was too little. Besides, the wait will make it all the more worthwhile. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:59, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Very true, I feel that if they released them all at once, I would die before I got to watch any. Although, I am actually quite worried, mainly about the few disconnects in the story, sure they have a chance to correct them, but I want things to progress along with the novels, such as Asuna, I have this bad feeling that they are going to try to get them together right away, which I believe would make things worse. Also the others, if they try to make a harem ending, or some kind of ending where it is unclear who Kazuto ends up with, that will piss me off. Waiting avidly for the new episode. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 13:08, 14 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=168866 2012-07-13T07:16:30Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hold on, the anime will be going for about 26 episodes, with one episode per week, holy crap that's half a year, we need to wait half a year to see the end! [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 02:16, 13 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=168761 2012-07-12T23:02:40Z

<p>Draeke: /* Question about Frequency of releases */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about Frequency of releases ==<br /> <br /> I'm just wondering, what's the general frequency of the releases?<br /> <br /> I um... watched the first episode of SAO anime, and then I suddenly flung myself to read all the translated LN for SAO... and just finished reading everything except for volume 10 (untranslated), some of the lower sidestories, and material editions...<br /> <br /> that said, I'm just wondering...<br /> <br /> Given that the releases have been in the order of - April, August, December (for 2 2/3 years) and then switched suddenly to february, July...<br /> <br /> am I correct in deducing the approximate date of Volume 11 is around December(2012)-February (2013) then?<br /> <br /> <br /> Personally, I think it will be closer to February of 2013, but hey, who knows, it is kind of tough to project a solid timeline, so I really can't say when I think it will be. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 18:02, 12 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=168645 2012-07-12T14:01:16Z

<p>Draeke: /* Volume 10 */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis was the one who uploaded these. Hats off dude. But I'd ''reeeeally'' appreciate it if, at the very least, someone translated the vol 7 &amp; 8 pics above. So I can photoshop them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It would definitely be amazing, but seeing as how I can not understand Japanese, I am not really in much of a position to go harassing translators for them. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:01, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=168484 2012-07-12T05:43:10Z

<p>Draeke: /* Volume 10 */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 10 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 002-003.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 004.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 005.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 006-007.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 10 - 008.jpg|Insert Translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please Translate these. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And can you translate '''all''' the untranslated ones above? You merely have to translate the text and post it, leave the photoshop-ing to me. It's a shame that they're left like that when they can be done quickly. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:48, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wow, I am almost scared to see these translated, they look like major spoilers. Does Teh_Ping have the raws yet? [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 00:42, 12 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So... no objections? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I will do it later after deciding how to rename them. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 16:02, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I have heard similar sentences an uncountable number of times from my parents, only to be disappointed. Haven't you? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:53, 11 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=167843 2012-07-09T03:03:34Z

<p>Draeke: /* Cline or Klein */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Cline or Klein==<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.<br /> <br /> Greetings.Finally am able to watch it as well.Regarding name change,can I volunteer to do the name change when it's decided?Although I can't do all in one go.-/-[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 02:24, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I '''can''' make the change in one go. I also volunteer myself for this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:36, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Vaelis actually gave green light to change all the names to ME2 version a while back in forums, I also did change all the names in the works translated by me. So please feel free to change the names in the rests of the volumes/SS. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:43, 8 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oh good, it is solved, because I had gone back through and noticed it had switched back and forth. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 22:03, 8 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Names_and_Terminology_Guideline&diff=167656 2012-07-08T04:08:31Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>Can anyone confirm what name should we use for Kirito's childhood friend in UW? '''Eugeo''' or '''Yujio'''?<br /> <br /> Take any questions you have with names and terminologies to the forums. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:51, 24 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So it is Klein and not Cline? If so then someone will need to go through the novels and change them. Not to mention the pdf's as well. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:49, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> See the statement above yours. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 23:06, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> .... Dang, how did I miss that, okay sorry for the trouble. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 23:08, 7 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=167647 2012-07-08T02:44:47Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - --[[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. It really is. I can't wait for the next one. It was so excruciatingly painful the last few hours before it came online. And yet, it was worth the wait. Now I have to bear the pain of waiting a whole week. Nugaaah! Waku waku, waku waku. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:43, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Doraemon-sama, please lend me your time machine.--[[User:Zmunjali|Zmunjali]] 18:16, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So is it Cline or Klein? Because someone will need to go around changing it in all of the novels, or a group of people.</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Names_and_Terminology_Guideline&diff=167606 2012-07-07T21:49:45Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>Can anyone confirm what name should we use for Kirito's childhood friend in UW? '''Eugeo''' or '''Yujio'''?<br /> <br /> Take any questions you have with names and terminologies to the forums. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:51, 24 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So it is Klein and not Cline? If so then someone will need to go through the novels and change them. Not to mention the pdf's as well. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 16:49, 7 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online&diff=167554 2012-07-07T20:23:43Z

<p>Draeke: /* Anime */</p> <hr /> <div>==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==<br /> They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Egil: &quot;''Our shop's motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: &quot;''Kirito-kun...''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''Of an acquired alias of &quot;The Flash&quot;, the sub-leader of the guild &quot;Blood Knights&quot;''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Kirito: &quot;''Better than you can, most likely''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cradil: &quot;...''I'm going to kill you... I'll definitely kill you.... Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A member of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot;, serving as Asuna's escort.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Heathcliff: &quot;''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;''A cross-shield user, the leader of the &quot;Blood Knights&quot; and their strongest.''<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Asuna: &quot;''D, don't...look over here...''&quot;<br /> Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Gargantuan Game Castle &quot;Aincrad&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Aincrad&quot; is the world set as the stage for &quot;Sword Art Online&quot;, declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Thanks!!<br /> <br /> --<br /> <br /> I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> ---<br /> <br /> ===More Pic Translations===<br /> Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)=<br /> :We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.<br /> ::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For Vol2 Img7, do I see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think I put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> ====Volume 2====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/I&gt;Shrika:&lt;I&gt; &quot;...No... Thank you...for coming to help...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--使い魔モンスター《フェザーリドラ》を持つ《ビーストテイマー》の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?&lt;!--...き、気をつけてね!--&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt; A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street].&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Wah~ Papa, carry me~!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--アインクラッド二十二層の森で倒れていた謎の少女--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: &lt;I&gt;''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.''&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;A member in the guild «Black Cats of the Full Moon» in Aincrad.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> ====Volume 3====<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna:&lt;I&gt; &quot;Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun...&quot;&lt;br&gt;A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!&quot;&lt;br&gt;A girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is «Sylph».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yui:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Papa is carefree as usual.&quot;&lt;br&gt;A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a «Navigation Pixie» in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito:&lt;I&gt;&quot;Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Turns to a «Spriggan» swordsman in «ALO».&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: &lt;I&gt; &quot;...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!&quot;&lt;br&gt;Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;!--キリト＝桐ヶ谷和人[かずと]の妹。<br /> 中学三年生で剣道部に所属している--&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: &lt;I&gt;&quot;If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador.&quot;&lt;br&gt;The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is «Salamander». Possesses the legendary weapon «Magic Sword Gram».&lt;/I&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kirito: &lt;I&gt;You're so generous, aren't you.&lt;/I&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|&lt;b&gt;Yggdrasil.&lt;/b&gt; The destination of all players who log in to «ALfheim Online».&lt;br&gt;The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above &lt;Yggdrasil&gt; and has an audience with the &lt;Fairy King Oberon&gt;, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the &lt;Alf&gt;. By being reborn into true fairies, the &lt;Alf&gt;, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of &lt;Yggdrasil&gt;. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of «ALO», and that quest has yet to be cleared.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie&lt;!--Quite the specific race if you ask me--&gt;. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose<br /> <br /> In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: &quot;ALfheim Online&quot;<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> * * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*<br /> -Kenena<br /> &lt;!--Yeah, REALLY specific, although I guess ALO's like that. I wonder if thats the same Yui from vol 2. I wonder what she was doing in there. *hint hint* lol.--&gt;<br /> <br /> I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> With the last pic vol 3 pics are done. So can someone please translate the pics below so that I can photoshop the pics? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:13, 20 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 4 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|「G'morning Sugu. You seem awfully sleepy. What in the world were you doing last night?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Kazuto: The Black swordsman that led the game clear of the nightmare game &lt;SAO&gt;. Other name &quot;Kirito&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Morning, brother.U--mm......[Oh,] on the internet.....」.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirigaya Suguha: Kazuto = Kirito's sister, in her third year of junior high, as well as a member of the Kendo club.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|「Ki, Kirito-kun!! Wa, Wait......alone, it's impossible!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: The young girl Kirito met in «ALO». The race of her fairy avatar is a «Sylph».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「That might be true...... &lt;br /&gt;But, I, have to get there.....!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: The strongest «Solo Player» in «SAO». Becomes a Spriggan swordsman in «ALO».<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|「&quot;I'm here...! Yui-chan, Kirito-kun!&quot;」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - A captive girl in a high specification VRMMO, ALfheim Online.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「&quot;--But Kirigaya-kun, no, perhaps it is better to call you Kirito-kun. To think that you would come all the way here. I cannot decide whether you are brave or stupid&quot;.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oberon, the fairy king - Sugou Nobuyuki in the real world. Ploting on using the trust from the father of Asuna, aka Yuuki Asuna, to force against Asuna's will for a marriage of convenience.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|「......You're......Onii-chan......?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Eh......? ----Sugu......Suguha......?」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Is already edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'll start doing the remaining three now. One per day. I've already done the two-page spread. BTW I used the font '''Anime Ace 2.0''' which is the default for Manga. Plus I intend to continue doing so. If anyone wants this font then all they have to do is google '''Anime Ace font'''. I got it for free that way. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:25, 20 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 6 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|「I......don't want to believe it. There can't be a VRMMO player who doesn't PK but truly kills.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sinon : A female player in the MMO of guns and steel «Gun Gale Online». A sniper wielding the large rifle «Hecate II»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「I am going to fight him...... the «Death Gun». I can't let him shoot anyone with that gun any further.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A boy who, in order to come in contact with the «Death Gun», entered «GGO». The only «Sword» user within the MMO of guns and steel.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|「Even if it is Kirito, he wouldn't go that far. ......well, I don't think he would.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Ahaha, well that could be true too. Plus, with a sword instead of a gun, in a shooting game.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Really......it's a surprise isn't it. Since it's about Kirito-san, I expected him to go guns-ablaze from the start or something.」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;「Brother isn't shown on the screen much--」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Sinon: 「Whenever it is, always check six.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|(Kirito) 「--------!!」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Death Gun) 「You can't do anything. You will be defeated here by me, on the ground helplessly while I kill that girl, being able to only watch.」<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Translated and edited by BeginnerXP<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Only one left. Can somebody translate the last one so I can photoshop it? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:33, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done. I still have the PSD files so if you want any changes just let me know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:46, 3 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 7 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|'''(top)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;......uah...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito: A player called the «Black Swordsman» by other players trapped in the death game «SAO». Real name is Kirigaya Kazuto. Chooses a Spriggan avatar in «ALO».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'''(following is from right to left)'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I think the reason why Scilica-chan is sleepy, is due to that.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lyfa: Kirito's sister, Suguha. In «ALO», she acts as a Sylph magical warrior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;...Ah, I see...&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna: Kirito's lover. An Undine sorceress in «ALO»&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;U... Uu... I'm sleepy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scilica: A girl saved by Kirito in «SAO» Within «ALO», she takes the form of a Cait Sith, capable of Taming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;I wonder why looking at that causes sleepiness... Maybe it's the illusion-type magic that Spriggan are good at or something?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lizbeth : The girl who created Kirito's sword in «SAO». In «ALO», a Leprechaun blacksmith.<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|(left)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;We're almost there! Keep going, Asuna!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yuuki: '''[Text needs to be added here]'''&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(right)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Somehow... Did you really, need me at all? I don't feel like there's anywhere where I could help you all out with...&quot;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:45, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm doing the first one, currently. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:07, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done first one. Can someone provide me with the translations for the rest? Then I can photoshop it into them them too. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:02, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 8 ====<br /> <br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:「......で,团長どのは,何か閃いたことはあるい?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......De, danchou-dono wa, nanika hirameita koto wa aru I?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......So,how is it leader, can you come up with anything?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirito - The player trying to save everyone in the VRMMO Death game «SAO» nicknamed the «Black Swordsman». Only «Solo Player» to possess the «Dual Blades» skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna:「......なんなの,この料理?ラーメン?」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (......Nan'na no, kono ryōri? Rāmen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (......What is with this dish? Ramen?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asuna - Guild «Knights-of-Blood» Sub-Leader. Rapier master nicknamed «Flash».&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff:「では`この偽ラーメンの味のぶんだけ答えよう」&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romaji = (Dewa `kono nise rāmen no aji no bun dake kotaeyou)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Translation = (OK, I can only give you an answer equal to this fake ramen's value)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Healthcliff - Guild Leader of the strongest guild «Knights-of-Blood». Only player to possess the unique skill «Holy Sword», giving him absolute strength. Does not get along very well with Kirito.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here<br /> Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> <br /> Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you guys would add the translations here I can photoshop the text into the pics. So please. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:20, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> You guys realize that all those color pics are in the book like the black and white pics? Well except for some of the explanation ones. If you are bored, go and find where they belong. By the way, some of the pics are translated at the pic location. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:21, 23 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Added translation for the first pics, I cannot make out what healthcliff is saying, I am not a translator nor proficient in japanese. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 12:48, 26 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Got the translation for what healthcliff is saying from reading the chinese translated version, it might not make sense juz by looking at the pic coz it refers to the story. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:05, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Double translation can be problematic. Unlike chapter translation, picture editing takes more effort. To the point where editing is more work than translating. I'd like someone to double check. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:47, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I corrected the Romaji. Cross-checked with Google translate's phonetic typing function. It's translation capabilities might suck but the phonetic speech and typing functions are the real deal. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:54, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> oh, what I meant was I got what healthcliff was saying in japanese but since it did not make sense juz solely based only from the context of the picture I did not put it in. So I was reading the chinese translated version of vol 8, and I got to this particular scene of the story so I could translate it more effectively.It should be correct but I could be wrong. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 02:20, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'd like to scanlate them all '''after''' their text has been translated. So can someone please add the translated text? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:46, 1 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==== Volume 9 ====<br /> <br /> [[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Illustrations|Volume 9 Illustrations]]. I cleaned all of the volume 9 images and have edited one of the color pics to be english translated. Will do the remaining two as well soon. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:47, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Done last two. All color pics now have their levels corrected and also are English translated. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:38, 20 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==Editor==<br /> <br /> OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o<br /> <br /> Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.<br /> <br /> This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).<br /> <br /> You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.<br /> <br /> And thank you all for reading!!!!<br /> <br /> --[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC<br /> <br /> <br /> Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii<br /> <br /> I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though. <br /> As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing. <br /> By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari<br /> <br /> <br /> Hello, i was just wondering if you guys would accept another editor here. I have read almost all 9 volumes, and there are always many, MANY grammatical errors and weird literal translations in the text. The translation itself is solid, but it is just really awkward to read. I do really appreciate the work you guys put into this, and I'm not trying to demean or anything, but i think i could contribute greatly to the editing of this novel. I am very proficient in english, and I could probably edit a chapter in 2-3 days, or faster depending on the length of the chapter. If you'll accept me, you could send me an unedited text from something to test my skills if required. I would be happy to lend a hand to such a great project. [[User:Jasou|Jasou]] 01:20, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Some translations are literal for a reason. Excessive '''Englishification''' ruins the original meaning and funniness. Just be careful. And please sign you posts with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:33, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I've reviewed your edit on Volume 9 Interlude I. I think it's okay, but since I don't have the original japanese LN, I can't say for sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==<br /> I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!<br /> Please Give us chapter four soon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than I would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...<br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!<br /> :I love you<br /> <br /> Thanks for the update<br /> <br /> <br /> This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what I see in the illustration there will be some romance...<br /> <br /> <br /> Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!<br /> <br /> <br /> This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!<br /> <br /> Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^<br /> <br /> <br /> This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.<br /> <br /> I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations<br /> <br /> :BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!<br /> <br /> That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D<br /> And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.<br /> <br /> He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...<br /> <br /> :Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.<br /> <br /> I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!<br /> <br /> Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....<br /> <br /> That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD<br /> <br /> <br /> damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!<br /> <br /> oh shit now I'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..<br /> <br /> <br /> don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD<br /> <br /> :You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.<br /> <br /> <br /> You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like &quot;...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...&quot;, it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.<br /> <br /> Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD<br /> <br /> Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(<br /> <br /> at first, I thought that SAO is just a .hack&gt;&lt;druaga&gt;&lt;yureka look-a-like... I was wrong.<br /> seriously... I'm jealous of Kirito ;_;<br /> Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD<br /> -randompasserby<br /> <br /> chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD<br /> <br /> == keep up the good work! ==<br /> <br /> you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...<br /> And we love you!<br /> <br /> ^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.<br /> <br /> Sama O.O....<br /> <br /> Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D<br /> <br /> We aren't samurai either.<br /> <br /> Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD<br /> <br /> Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!<br /> <br /> You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p<br /> :He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.<br /> <br /> Nah, You guys... Just say it like this &quot;Sharramon-nyoro!!!!&quot; RIGHT?<br /> <br /> How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!<br /> <br /> All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?<br /> <br /> Easy. You like SAO the most!<br /> <br /> Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???<br /> <br /> Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!<br /> <br /> ==Volume Names==<br /> Both the first and second volumes are called &quot;Aincrad&quot;? Weird...<br /> <br /> :That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02. <br /> {| style=&quot;background:black; color:black&quot;<br /> |They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems. <br /> |}<br /> I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.<br /> <br /> It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.<br /> <br /> == So because I couldn't wait... ==<br /> <br /> I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.<br /> This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.<br /> So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...<br /> Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun<br /> <br /> I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?<br /> -Enigma<br /> <br /> Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP<br /> <br /> I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.<br /> <br /> @Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun<br /> Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun<br /> <br /> <br /> == Historic moment ==<br /> <br /> SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)<br /> <br /> == Discussion Forum? ==<br /> <br /> Sup. Kenena here~<br /> Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time I want to ask something. Link or something would be great.<br /> <br /> -Kenena<br /> <br /> In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&amp;t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> == Volume 3 ==<br /> <br /> <br /> Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg<br /> <br /> <br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg<br /> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg<br /> <br /> I think these two should answer your question.<br /> <br /> <br /> Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.<br /> <br /> ===Chapter 3/4===<br /> If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should I know to be able to read it effectively<br /> <br /> == What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==<br /> <br /> Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.<br /> <br /> <br /> I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire &quot;read at own disgretion&quot; message.<br /> <br /> -Ence<br /> <br /> I think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy<br /> <br /> :Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the &quot;forward to..&quot; box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...<br /> <br /> <br /> Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?<br /> <br /> I think a link with a warning would work.<br /> <br /> Chapter 16 still links to 16.5... is this intentional or a a side-effect of the nav template? -[[User:Milki|milki]] 03:53, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I did not realise there was a chapter 16.5 at all before I came over this... And now that I've seen it, I agree that it shouldn't be put in the full text. What I'm wondering about, though, is if Reki Kawahara really wrote this himself, where it was published and how on earth it came to this site. Oh, and this chapter might be a little hard to notice if you go directly to the full text to read volume 1.<br /> <br /> == Similar to Prince Revolution? ==<br /> <br /> I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.<br /> <br /> It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.<br /> <br /> _______________________________________<br /> <br /> Prince Revolution is the name of the site/group that translates the novel &quot;1/2 Prince&quot; by Yu Wo. Not the novel itself. There may be some similiarities to 1/2 Prince, the .Hack//-series or Yureka, but that is because all of them are about virtual reality MMOs. If you look at them from another point of view, you might see the differences in the plot. SAO is about being trapped in the game, with virtual death killing your real body and the struggle to escape this. This is not the case in 1/2 Prince, where the big problem lies in<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT START************ (Is it possible to put the following lines in a spoiler-tab? I have no idea how to do it)<br /> <br /> NPCs getting self-concious and revolting against human players in the game world. Yureka also have a few &quot;virtual death = real death&quot; parts, but the main story is about the main character finding the hacking program called Yureka who is somewhere in the game world. I haven't read .Hack//, so sadly, I can't say anything about that.<br /> <br /> -*************SPOILER ALERT END*************<br /> <br /> So, think of this before you imply that a novel is a copy of another one. Sure, it may have been an inspiration to SAO (Actually, that depends on which of them were written first), but unless the plot is the exact same thing, they are looked at as two different novels. An example of this is Lion King. It is inspired by Hamlet, but would you sue Disney for trying to copy Shakespeare?<br /> ____________________________________<br /> <br /> ==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==<br /> <br /> here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024<br /> <br /> <br /> Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.<br /> It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T<br /> <br /> [[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...<br /> <br /> [[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T<br /> <br /> == Korean RAWs? ==<br /> <br /> Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?<br /> I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)<br /> Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==<br /> <br /> Hey, <br /> I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?<br /> <br /> It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.<br /> And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here. <br /> <br /> Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html<br /> <br /> newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online<br /> ---------------------------<br /> Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> ---------------------------<br /> As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -&gt; http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago. <br /> - [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]<br /> <br /> Ah, ok thanks.<br /> <br /> Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer<br /> <br /> == LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==<br /> <br /> Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian<br /> <br /> I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --&gt; Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian<br /> <br /> I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...<br /> <br /> ----<br /> Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ----<br /> <br /> So is this chapter even published? Because from what I read here it seems it's out but nobody wants to add it cause we already went past it in chronological order.<br /> I fail to see how that's a reason though as the special with Kirito meeting Asuna was inserted after we went past those event.<br /> Can someone clarify?<br /> Thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 22:06, 11 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It's in volume 8 first side story, with the name 'A Murder Case In the Area' --[[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 20:53, 12 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Okay, thanks.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 19:06, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Simply Amazing ==<br /> <br /> This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.<br /> <br /> Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1<br /> <br /> - Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno<br /> [Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]<br /> <br /> Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how &quot;The Black Swordsman&quot; is codeword for &quot;Oh Shi-!&quot; [[User:Ax&amp;#39;el|Ax&amp;#39;el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> ======Request======<br /> Greetings.(Sorry for creating yet another heading.)May I ask about using the image links in SAO English in SAO Indonesian when I start translating them?Thanks before.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 11:57, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> == The Tentative time line ==<br /> <br /> I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.<br /> <br /> == Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==<br /> <br /> Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though I think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!<br /> == confused ==<br /> s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.<br /> <br /> No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> ohhhh thx I was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> == Confused, but for a different reason ==<br /> <br /> First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&amp;6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&amp;6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!<br /> <br /> They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==<br /> ===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]=== <br /> <br /> ====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====<br /> This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading. <br /> ====■Glossary■====<br /> *Underworld: Another (VR) World<br /> *Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.<br /> *Demon World (Lit=&quot;Pitch-Black World&quot;): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》. <br /> *Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall. <br /> *Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》. <br /> *Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base. <br /> *Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.<br /> *Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base. <br /> *Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.<br /> <br /> ====■Characters■==== <br /> *Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》. <br /> *Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》 <br /> *Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.<br /> *Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner. <br /> *Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue. <br /> *Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world. <br /> *Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue. <br /> *Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal. <br /> *Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> <br /> Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Appreciate the work ==<br /> <br /> Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.<br /> this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> <br /> == Great story, great translation! ==<br /> <br /> I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.<br /> This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.<br /> I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!<br /> <br /> Keep up the good work! :)<br /> <br /> == I think this is an issue ==<br /> <br /> Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.<br /> <br /> <br /> Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==<br /> <br /> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)<br /> Hope it will be good like .hack<br /> <br /> <br /> I heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?<br /> <br /> How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?<br /> <br /> == Replacement of nav table with nav template ==<br /> <br /> I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:<br /> <br /> ie:<br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;5&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; style=&quot;margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<br /> | Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]<br /> | Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]<br /> |-<br /> |}<br /> <br /> with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].<br /> <br /> ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}<br /> <br /> which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.<br /> <br /> Advantages of the new system:<br /> #We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)<br /> #Have a call code that is easier to:<br /> ##memorize<br /> ##recall<br /> ##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)<br /> #Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.<br /> #Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).<br /> #Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.<br /> #Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.<br /> #Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)<br /> <br /> This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.<br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm so you are using this:<br /> {{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}<br /> <br /> Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.<br /> *Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''<br /> *Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''. <br /> <br /> If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> - Personally, I don't really care as long as &quot;forward&quot; &quot;main page&quot; are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the &quot;back button&quot;. Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -&gt; the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button. <br /> <br /> For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.<br /> <br /> In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:<br /> <br /> *You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -&gt; chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -&gt; Main Page -&gt; Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.<br /> *About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> *Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.<br /> *I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).<br /> *Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.<br /> <br /> hahaha if only that was true :P<br /> <br /> It's not &quot;wrong&quot; imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is &quot;I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter&quot;, but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.<br /> <br /> At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Though <br /> <br /> 1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.<br /> <br /> 2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.<br /> [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...<br /> <br /> And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long. <br /> <br /> I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> *''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.<br /> *''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> ...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio. <br /> <br /> For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> ------------<br /> <br /> OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''<br /> <br /> *Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.<br /> <br /> *Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.<br /> <br /> *Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.<br /> <br /> *Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.<br /> <br /> *Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.<br /> <br /> So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a &lt;big&gt;'''BIG'''&lt;/big&gt; fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka &quot;less clicks the better&quot;. Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> :I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> :Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter b -&gt; main page -&gt; chapter c -&gt; main page -&gt; ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Look, the system isn't detrimental to the project, in fact it's ''beneficial''. And its already ready for implementation. So I would like to humbly request that I be allowed to implement it. Since there are no real minus points. There won't be any loss, so why not? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:15, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Have you ever heard of the term &quot;silent assent&quot;? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:42, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I made a few adjustments thus reducing the height of the expanded template. Though the width seems to have increased as a result but that's acceptable since this will be on a separate line anyways (plus a small width template occupying a full line seems weird, at least to me). I'd like some feedback at least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==<br /> <br /> I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.<br /> <br /> [[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]] <br /> <br /> That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.<br /> <br /> [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> == About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==<br /> <br /> Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:<br /> <br /> Kikuoka: &quot;...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?&quot; <br /> <br /> I think it should be &quot;la&quot; or &quot;ra&quot; instead of &quot;pu&quot;. The &quot;ra&quot; part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.<br /> <br /> I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the &quot;pu&quot; might be part of &quot;public&quot;? What do you think the &quot;ra&quot; means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.<br /> <br /> == Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.<br /> <br /> wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> == volume 8 chapter 2 name ==<br /> <br /> shouldn't it be called &quot;Calibur&quot; instead of &quot;Caliber&quot;?<br /> <br /> just asking. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That probably makes more sense, but &quot;Caliber&quot; seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@<br /> <br /> Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Well, my evidence was these lines:<br /> &quot;There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too...&quot; <br /> And<br /> Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]<br /> <br /> Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.<br /> <br /> Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.<br /> <br /> My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!<br /> <br /> This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)<br /> <br /> For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game. <br /> <br /> If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which I'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> @Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Yeah all these question can be answered that &quot;they can do it in the future&quot; then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> A famous quote from Arthur C. Clarke: '''&quot;Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic&quot;'''. You shouldn't think so deeply on it. Also it's a fact that as time will pass, what is considered advanced now will be considered common in the future. A general purpose computer, at the beginning, was a machine that was superbly expensive so much so that the normal person could not own it. Nowadays it's in every home. Well that's over the span of 60 years. But with things like [http://www.howstuffworks.com/invisibility-cloak.htm invisibility cloaks] being developed, you really can't say that what I'm saying is wrong. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:15, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Guys, this debate getting too long. I think this talk page should be more for translation related purposes. Please move this to the forums if you wish to continue. Please delete this text list once that has been done.--[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:00, 18 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Just discuss it in the forum ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 01:11, 23 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Volume 5 ==<br /> <br /> any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway<br /> <br /> KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> 98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> <br /> Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?<br /> <br /> There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)<br /> <br /> Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.<br /> <br /> '''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.<br /> '''<br /> <br /> <br /> I don't mean to sound rude or anything but could the translators focus on finishing chapters 6 and 7 of Volume 5 , I do wanna read read aria in the starless night but even more than that I wanna finish reading Phantom bullet and there is just 2 untranslated chapters preventing me from reading an entire volume. Again I'm sorry if I'm acting rude, and I know that its not easy to translate. [[Username:Leonzell (not registered here) 1:44 AM GMT+10<br /> <br /> Given the previous banter from certain users about this topic in the recent past, this does come off as a little rude. One of the translators, [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]] has already addressed this issue and has asked for additional help to translate. Otherwise, you can look at his user page for a timeline. -[[User:Milki|milki]] 09:54, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> If you cannot wait, the first chapter of book 6 does cover the events that happen in those missing chapters in summary. You do not really need to worry if you will miss anything important, the main plot is covered. Just come back to read the details when it is done and posted up. --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 19:56, 19 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Actually, I still patiently waiting for chapter 6 to be fully translated, even though I have an urge to just skip it and read the volume 6.<br /> But....how should I say it.... It feels 'incomplete' if I just skip it (I'm a bit perfectionist, sorry). So I beg you, if you have free time (which must be hard to find since you also have real life), please, would you consider to fully translate the chapter 6? X) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 13:25, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well. I'm sure that's nice to know. The translators have their own timeline and life as well though. If you want to help, try recruiting some more translators to help [[User:Teh_Ping|Teh Ping]]. - [[User:Milki|milki]] 16:34, 27 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> 2 month and still waiting.... - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 01:04, 7 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, I'm not sure about chapter 6, but chapter 7 will be dome translating and put into the hands of the editors sometime within 24 hours, depending on my schedule.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 16:00, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Niiiice♪. But can you help Teh Ping out in releasing Chapter 6 too? I'm sure he'd agree since his schedule is full. Rather he's been asking for help as long as I know. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:06, 21 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Don't know for sure, but I would need to check out how far the other translator got into the chapter. I got only a couple pages left of chapter 7 anyway, I sure could help out. Since your an editor, do you have the link for the google docs where the chapters are? If not, give me your email and I'll send you a link.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 14:26, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Put it on my Talk page. As for how far chapter 6 has gotten: The point where Kirito purchases the Kouken (Light Saber). BTW, why isn't the chapter here on it's respective chapter page? All I see is 100% in editing, I don't get it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:36, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> That's because all editing done by the BCotFM are done through google docs. But sadly, the group has been kinda falling apart as members have to answer to LIFE or got other projects. Personally, I was just procrastinating and going through some issues myself.--[[User:Desodus|Desodus]] 21:16, 22 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Woohoo! Awesome Translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:17, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Quote consistency ==<br /> <br /> There are a lot of different quotes used. Which one's should be used?<br /> <br /> contractions - ' or ’<br /> <br /> terms - «» or &lt;nowiki&gt;'' (two single quotes)&lt;/nowiki&gt; (understand that «» is for SAO terms,<br /> but if &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; is used, I don't know if its intentional or should be «»)<br /> <br /> quotes - &quot;&quot; or “” or ''''<br /> <br /> - [[User:Milki|milki]] 17:03, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Well, while writing on a piece of paper with a pen “” and ’ are used<br /> however &quot;&quot; are known as typewriter quotes and are also completely acceptable<br /> But &quot;&quot; or ' takes up less space so it is preferred for use in Media wiki based websites like this one.<br /> as for &lt;nowiki&gt;''&lt;/nowiki&gt; These are used to ''italicize'' the text. Please ignore them.<br /> <br /> In other words it doesn't really matter unless you want to optimize space usage since they both look the same no matter which one you use. So please ignore it. Though the standard on all mediawiki based sites has '''always''' been &quot;&quot; and '. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Quotation_marks)]) - [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:17, 18 February 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == '''Bullet of Bullets''' or '''Ballet of Bullets'''? ==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused. In the GGO arc... Is it '''Bullet''' of Bullets or '''Ballet''' of Bullets? Considering how Battle Tournaments are normally be named, '''Bullet''' of Bullets makes less sense than '''Ballet''' of Bullets (which actually fits more as far as tournament names go). Reason: fighting and dancing have often been interlinked. In medieval times strong noble warriors were also known for being good dancers since the movements used in battle are often similar to dance movements. See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira Capoeira], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calinda Calinda]. Oh I'm getting off track. Anyways, since fighting and dancing are similar it's more likely the tournament is named '''Ballet of Bullets''' (even if guns are now used, it has historical meaning). So can someone please check and see. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:10, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> Answered already here http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_6_Chapter_7 --[[User:Ff7 freak|Ff7 freak]] 04:46, 5 March 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Is there any official released of the novel in english? ==<br /> <br /> i plan to buy it if it got released in english version<br /> <br /> This is not yet licensed in any English-speaking country yet as far as I know. Wikipedia says so and wiki is always right. --[[User:Milki|milki]] 10:23, 14 March 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Another SAO SS? ==<br /> <br /> Greetings. When I visited the author old site I saw several items that might be SAO SS.(well some are already being translated.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Like [Aria in the Starless Sky], [Absolute Solitude], [Fortune Star], [Resettable Saver], SS5-[A Murder Case in the Area], SS7-[Cradle of the Moon], and [Waterworks] (not sure about some of the title since I'm using Google translate.)&lt;br /&gt;<br /> Aria in the Starless Sky&amp;A Murder Case in the Area are already on translation. If it isn't too troublesome,may I ask if the other will also be put into translation somewhere in the near future? Thanks before.<br /> <br /> I'm very intersting in those you mentioned as I have never run into them before, could you check if there're actual text inside? Of all those, I only have Cradle of the Moon, which is SS based on the Alizication arc, which is still untranslated so it has low priority for now. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 19:34, 15 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Yes,I've checked them.There're texts inside.But since I still haven't learned Japanese yet,I can only save it to MS Word/pdf format.Would you like me to send it to your e-mail address?Ah,I haven't ask your e-mail address yet.(I sincerely hope that they're SAO SS and can be of use to everyone.)[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> I just realized those you mentioned, it's his main site not old site and those aren't part of SAO series, I'm searching for more SAO SS author wrote in many occasions, but so far, no luck yet -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 01:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,that's too bad.So,it's a miss.Thank you.Sorry for the trouble.[[User:User753|User753]]<br /> <br /> Ok so now i am confused, so is &quot;volume 9 - Alicization Beginning&quot; not part of SAO or its is just the &quot;web version - Alicization Arc&quot; thats is not part of SAO?--[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 00:55, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Volume 9 is the version that is published, the web version is the version that was online. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:12, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ok.. so is the web version not part of the SAO universe with the kirito and asuna that we know? or its a separate story all together? [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The web version is similar to the published version, but not exactly the same. Any more information I can give is a spoiler, but if you don't mind spoilers you can go look at the images of volume 9. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] 01:23, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hmm... roger that, coz i was confused looking at the images in vol 9 i see kirito and asuna that we are all familiar with, but in the web version there's a disclaimer saying that the kirito is not the kirito that we know of. I am talking about the roughly translated &quot;Alicization Arc (Web Version)&quot; in the mainpage btw. [[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 01:30, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alicization web version chapter 1 on the wiki is practically the same as the Prologue I of vol 9, author did a lot of minor changes including rewriting in a few places, but the overall summary is still the same. The reason readers felt it wasn't related to Kirito we know will be explained in the later chapters, but he's certainly the same Kirito. Alicization is currently the largest arc of SAO series (and I assume it'd be the final main arc of the series too) and would need 5-6 volumes to cover its entire arc -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 09:19, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> ahhh.. thanks for the clarification, i have one more question, when would be the most optimum time to read the side story &quot;versus&quot;, the accel world crossover side story? I am currently on vol 5. --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 09:42, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure about Accel World side, but for SAO, there's no reference to anything significant after Fairy Dance, so I think it's fine to read it right after vol.4, but the story actually took place just slightly before Alicization arc, so author actually wants readers to read it after vol.8 (Accel World vol.10 released after SAO vol.8) -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] 10:27, 18 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == It's weird ==<br /> <br /> Aria in the Starless Night Side Story is when Kirito and Asuna meet for the first time in SAO. But do both or just Asuna forget about the other? In the other volumes it seems that Asuna got interested in Kirito after she saw him living (lazing around on the field) the game just as he would in reality (ie: the events in Vol8 Ch1, this is mentioned in other volumes too). Did Asuna forget about the events in Aria or what? Or did the author make a slight miss? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:35, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> It might be best to think of it like they simply met at a coffee shop, sure, they were fighting alongside each other, but that wasn't enough to get them past a formal acquaintanceship. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 14:24, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Heeh~ Sure ''and the whole bath thing just went over everybody's head~. Yup~ I'm sure that was something easy to forget~.'' Like that'd ever happen. That's why I'm confused. He was the guy who introduced her to how food could taste better, he was the guy who taught her that there were better living conditions than INNs, he was the guy who taught her not to overkill and how to choose better weapons. I can get them being at the level of formal acquaintances till that point. What I'm confused about is that in the other volumes there is no mention of her meeting him before the lazing around incident. Like they never even met before that. Weird isn't it? Well maybe it will be mentioned in vol8 chap1. I can't wait for the translation. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:39, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I think there was though, although it was a little subtle, back in the first volume, when it talked about Asuna going around and recruiting the boss assault team. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 17:32, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I dunno, Asuna might have blocked off some of that since it wasn't an all pleasant experience for her. Plus she still did keep that I want to clear this as fast as possible attitude til she met him in the upper floors again, so maybe she just forgot about it while trying to clear? I will agree with you, it is a pretty bad plot hole since you gotta think about it a lot to find a reason. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 18:10, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I don't think that it is really a plot hole, as aria is a side story, but then again, recently I have been feeling like Kawahara has been giving them too much time together in side stories, if they were in a group of seven in aria, it would have been much better I believe. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] 18:13, 21 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> It was pretty weird that Asuna and Kirito don't remember this some minor details have also been left out while in volumes but this meeting is just too big of an event so that they could forget but well seeing it is just a side story I guess it should be just fine as just seeing it in a way like you have said before Asuna after not seeing him again just started going crazy wanting to clear the game and Kirito being a Kirito just kinda forgot since the next time they saw each other took place about 1 year and 5 months later??[[User:Lelouch545|Lelouch545]]3:54, 11 Jule (PCT)<br /> <br /> It's possible that the author hadn't thought of any of these events when he wrote Volume 1. There are plenty of other inconsistencies throughout the side-stories, too. Since the side-stories are added after the main arc is over, it's best not to delve in too deep --[[Special:Contributions/92.239.153.44|92.239.153.44]] 06:21, 11 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Material Editions ==<br /> <br /> Material Editions? Is this the name of a new volume? Or a web volume? Or what? I need to know so that I can properly sort the info on the wikipedia page. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:07, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Material Edition (ME) series is a series of '''doujinshis''' created by Kawahara Reki himself using the pen name &quot;Kunori Fumio&quot; (he used that pen name when he was writing the web novel of SAO). Most but not all of the volumes of the ME series are side stories. He sells the ME series at the Comitia market (not Comic Market) and also some doujinshi shops.<br /> Below are the list of Material Edition volumes:<br /> <br /> * ME1 - The Progressor (a short manga chapter drawn by Kawahara himself)<br /> * ME2 - Early Characters<br /> * ME3 - Ceramic Heart <br /> * ME4 - Cold Hand, Warm Heart<br /> * ME5 - Salvia<br /> * ME6 - Algade Showdown<br /> * ME7 - Continuation. Aria of the Starless Night<br /> * ME8 - First Chapter of Rondo (second floor side story)<br /> * ME9 - Monochrome Concerto<br /> <br /> ME9 - Monochrome Concerto. yes, third floor, I'd do it if I can find raws.--[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 21:17, 29 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'll add them in the timeline I need to complete, if I have some informations about their dates (I saw &quot;September&quot; in ME4 for example). -[[User:Misogi|Misogi]] 18:45, 30 April 2012 (GMT+1)<br /> <br /> Okay So if there are any more please update on the list on the SAO Project Page at once. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:49, 30 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Regarding Pryun-san question about Sword Art Online: Material Editions 1.In my opinion,if it's allowed,please include the ME1.As it's a gaiden that's made by the same author supplementing the canon storyline.It'll be a sad thing if it's not posted and no manga reader site have posted it on theirs.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 00:41, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's a manga version (picture, comics whatever, basically like the color pages in the first section of the talk page). Then if someone can translate it I can photoshop it into the pics. Badabing Badaboom! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:43, 1 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I got my hands on ME1 manga, its in chinese, i could translate it into English and photoshop it into the manga. Unless Zero2001 wants to do the photoshopping... I am an amateur photoshopper though --[[User:Kyo171|Kyo171]] 04:34, 4 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> i think so long as the words can be seen in the bubbles and the original are removed, it should be fine.[[User:Fallen3dge|Fallen3dge]] 04:36, 5 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Upload the RAWs, add the translations, create a gallery, And leave the photoshopping to me. I'll do it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 21:29, 6 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Oi... [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sword-art-online-material-edition-soushuuhen-doujinshi-r4781 tap-trans has already done ME 1 and 3]. How much longer before we do it??? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:30, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And then there's ME7... I wanna read ME7~ Waaah~. ''Sob Sob''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:34, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Should we just post links to batoto on the main page at ME 1 and 3? It seems a waste to do the same work twice. --[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 17:42, 2 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm all for that idea. But will it be accepted? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:24, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Based on what I have seen so far I believe that ME1: The Progressors should be named &quot;The Clearers&quot; instead since that is what the title is talking about in regards to the story and all the translations so far have used the term &quot;Clearer&quot; instead of &quot;Progressor&quot; --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 10:43, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> English text on every page of it says &quot;The Progressors&quot;. We know it's weird.--[[User:Saganatsu|Saganatsu]] 12:54, 10 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Wouldn't it be better to rename the chapter pages to include ME#. Example: '''Sword Art Online:ME9:Monochrome Concerto''' I mean now that Rondo has continued, so will Monochrome Concerto. It will avoid clashing in the future since you're probably gonna insert the same include tags as you have in First Chapter of Rondo and then the page name conflict with the side story, y'know. Plus it will become easier to categorize the ME chapters and compile them in the Material Editions volume page when they're all done. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:02, 6 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == PDFs ==<br /> <br /> So I've been a long time visitor of Baka-Tsuki, but never bothered making an account. I've been browsing a bit and was quite impressed with the To Aru Majutsu no Index PDFs. So, feeling obligated to do something, I took it upon myself to turn volume 1 of SAO into a PDF and put it onto MF. I hope that this is alright. <br /> <br /> [http://www.mediafire.com/?4gaf7px2qewd23a Sword Art Online - 01 PDF]<br /> <br /> You can download the PDF I made and see if it's acceptable. <br /> <br /> If this is okay with the translators and editors, I'll try and turn all the completely translated volumes into PDFs and put em on MF. - [[User:Zetsubo666|Zetsubo666]]<br /> <br /> The thread for the PDF is [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&amp;t=4704#p122072 here]. There is a link to it on the main page of the project. [[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:55, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Congrats ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted to thank all you guys for working hard and translating the SAO series.<br /> Now that nearly everything is translated I wanted to ask, how far along is the novel in Japan? Cause when I try to look it up I cant read the pages cause they're all in Japanese D:<br /> And is the &quot;cradle of the moon&quot; chapter going to be translated or not, cause from what I read it's included in the Alicization arc.<br /> If it is I think it should be removed from the page, as everything else is 100% and this is the only non-translated part so it sorta ruins it when you scroll down and see everything.<br /> Thanks again to all the translators and editors! --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 13:31, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> If it's removed. It could be more easily forgotten or shelved indefinitely. And besides, the next volume is coming out within a month, and there are other side stories you still haven't seen translated. Patience is a virtue. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:48, 16 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alright, I'll try my best lol. --[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]] 18:37, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Spoken like a true fan. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:34, 17 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Name Pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Can you guys add a page for character name's pronunciation ? It's hard to talk to others while each got his/her own way of speaking names :P<br /> <br /> P.S: by the way, please make a wider range of question for page-editing. There's always 1 question whenever I look at it. -Anon<br /> <br /> :Well there is the: [[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline]]. I suppose we could add ogg files for pronunciation like wikipedia does. I'll work on it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:50, 18 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> You can do it the IPA way, like this: London /ˈlʌndən/ -Anon<br /> <br /> That won't be completely accurate. English and Japanese have different ways to pronouncing certain sounds like T, D, etc. Furthermore, few people know the phonetic alphabet in it's entirety and certainly not those with English as second alphabet. Better to sound it out for them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:03, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> So anyone who is great at speaking japanese and a good voice, please volunteer to be the pronouncer. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:07, 19 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Most names should be straightforward in pronunciation, I assume the names with issues are Lyfa and Sinon? In that case:<br /> * Lyfa - Ree-fa in JP version, but English changed R to L so Lee-fa is acceptable, just not Lai-fa.<br /> * Sinon - Shi-non, just like her real name Shino.<br /> * Eugeo - Yoo-gee-o.<br /> -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 01:38, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Alternately, for whatever name you have no idea how to pronounce, go to the terminology page, copy the jp name you see, put it into google, then ask it to sound it out for you(somewhere at the bottom right corner). That's the least complicated way, since JP pronunciation is quite simple/fixed. --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 05:13, 20 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yu-Gi-Oh!! Was what I first thought of.--[[User:Mufarasu|Mufarasu]]<br /> <br /> == Argas or Agas? ==<br /> <br /> I'm rereading Volume 1 (while proofreading) and it seems that the spelling keeps switching back and forth. For the sake of consistency, is there an agreed upon spelling? --[[User:Aozf05|Aozf05]] 00:48, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Good question. Take it to the forums for proofers to check(you can post even if you don't have an account there, I think). --[[User:Pryun|Pryun]] - [[User_talk:Pryun|Talk]] 06:24, 27 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> == Anime ==<br /> <br /> The anime ep1 was... AWESOME! They really stuck to the story, and now, since I saw the ending of ep 1 I can say for sure that the anime will encompass Vol 1, 2 and Aria at the very least. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:09, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> The music is done by Yuki Kajiura. YUKI KAJIURA man! Her works are EPIC. You could practically feel the fear and desperation in the air as well as Kirito's determination to live. AWESOME! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 15:13, 7 July 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Truly amazing indeed, I have watched it 5 times already, it just leaves you speechless, it's so good. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 15:23, 7 July 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Chapter_1_Part_4&diff=160610 2012-06-08T06:39:18Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>Thank you very much for the translation.It's quite something there.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 09:08, 7 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Thanks for the hard work again, dudes!!!! XD Ah, so that's who she was. I was honestly expecting someone else, but thinking about it, this is too early for that person to appear in the UW. But still, waiting at the top? Why is it always the top? Top of Aincrad, top of Yggdrasil, top of a list of people shooting each other, and now top of a cathedral? Why can't she wait at the main entrance or something? Or the praying room? Or the waiting room of an airport? That sounds like a place where a lot of people come to wait. I don't think they'd even let her sit on the cathedral's roof --M.A.D<br /> <br /> Because the top is the be-I can't even finish that, it's the cliche, you just need to have it, and just so you know, Aincrad was awesome, and the Yggdrasil was only mildly so. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 01:39, 8 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_9_Chapter_1_Part_2&diff=160015 2012-06-04T14:07:32Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>That was awesome!!! Thank you for the hard work!!! XP Incidentally, did you have a good break? --[[User:M.A.D|M.A.D]] 04:49, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well, I finished reading 3 books so it was productive, I guess, part 6 is editing and should be available soon. Teh_Ping is working on part 3-5 at the moment, the entire volume should be done on 8th according to his timeline, I hope everyone enjoy reading our works as much as we did working on them. -- [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]] - [[User_talk:BeginnerXP|Talk]] 04:57, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Well, I can't speak for everyone, but I'm enjoying this greatly at the very least XD Though, I didn't expect Kirito to become a stranger in the UW. Over 10 years worth of memory was wasted, and his best friend becomes a person whom he had met for the first time, what was the point of Prologue I anyway? Also, he's really starting from level 1? How is he even gonna hold a sword? --[[User:M.A.D|M.A.D]]<br /> <br /> This is really an awesome work.Adding myself in the list of ''everyone'' who're enjoying this greatly as [[User:M.A.D|M.A.D]]-san had said (wait,can't add my name two times).Thank you very much for this awesome work [[User:BeginnerXP|BeginnerXP]]-san.Perhaps the point of Prologue I is about Kirito's memories of &lt;&lt;Underworld&gt;&gt; before the memories in &lt;&lt;Fluctlight&gt;&gt; of every tester (and the whole village) regarding him is changed?And perhaps he can remember it because his restriction is lifted during his treatment due to his mortal injury from &lt;&lt;PoH&gt;&gt; ?If I recalled it correctly,I think their role regarding the cutting of &lt;&lt;Gigas Cedar&gt;&gt; is also reversed.As before the change,Kirito's the one who did a perfect job at cutting the tree and Eugeo's the one who's told of only doing 3-4 perfect cut out of 50.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 05:52, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah, you might want to read the whole thing again, User735. Kirito did indeed do a better job than Eugeo, but both of them have an average of 3-4 hits out of 50 strikes. Back then, Kirito only had 3 hits more than Eugeo. Also, it was Johnny Black. As for why he is here, I think we sshould wait for future chapters instead of making assumption. For example, it could be that since the flesh and blood Kazuto is dead, his FFluctlight comes out of his body and merges with the recording of his Fluctlight in the STL, and he becomes a true citizen of the UW... o.O --[[User:M.A.D|M.A.D]] 09:27, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,you're right.My mistake.Isn't the net game name of Johnny Black is PoH,no?Uu...You're right...Will wait then,thanks for the advice.Ah,it's been a while since I've been called with that nickname.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 16:50, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Nah, those are two different guys. Johnny Black is the partner of Red-eyed XaXa while PoH is the leader. You'll see them somewhere in Volume 8 :P Anyway, how would you like me to call you? --[[User:M.A.D|M.A.D]] 17:20, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Ah,in vol 8 ch 1 pt 11&amp;12,my bad.Thanks for telling me.PoH didn't show up again.Well,it's up to you.Any variation of 753 is fine too,since all of it's variant still hold a meaning.Please don't call me 16.5 though.My friend's been teasing me a lot because of that.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 18:26, 3 June 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> What's wrong with 16.5? Sure, it is a little intense, but that is nothing compared to the OTHER stuff people watch. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:07, 4 June 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Sword_Art_Online:Volume_8_Chapter_1_Part_1&diff=159163 2012-05-31T14:18:39Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>== Wording ==<br /> <br /> Changed &quot;vice-leader&quot; to &quot;sub-leader&quot; since it was used in the previous volumes and it also sounds more natural. --[[User:Arctosa|Arctosa]] 08:56, 6 January 2012 (CST)<br /> <br /> == Continue ==<br /> <br /> Will someone please continue the translation already? I'm tired of coming here everytime I see a change registered in the RSS only to find it's an edit rather than an addition. LOL. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 18:27, 28 April 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Adding &quot;lol&quot; at the end of your sentence doesn't make it any less irritating, you know. If any, it just seems out of place. But I agree with Zero. Why hasn't there been any progress on either this volume or the next one? I know Teh_Ping said that the chapter of Alicization is really long, but that's not the case for Vol 8, isn't that? --[[Special:Contributions/90.204.191.87|90.204.191.87]] 01:58, 9 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings,perhaps Thinklife is busy in the real world?It hasn't been two months since his/her last update.Although it'll be nice if we can hear from him/her soon.An apple taste the best when the one eating is hungry...or it's honey pickled.Hopefully he/she isn't MIA.(Looks like I'm getting paranoid.It's almost a year anniversary...''not good,I'm straying again.'')--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 05:10, 9 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Not a good example. Starving oneself for too long could lead to being rendered unconscious. I had a friend in my O-Levels who would faint in the morning assembly if he hadn't had his breakfast. Seriously. And I did find it funny at the time that whenever I would see an update on my watchlist RSS and come here it would turn out to be a minor edit. Hence the LOL. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 08:16, 9 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hehe,that's a strong point.About that...I can only think of looking for alternative healthy nourishment.Since this apple is still checked&amp;shorted in the cellar,we can only wait&amp;look at the other apple trees.Hopefully this apple doesn't over-ripe/spoil due to overlong storage.About the watchlist RSS,is it the 'Recent Changes' page?--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 09:29, 9 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I didn't know we had RSS feed on the wiki, either. How do I register for it? --[[User:M.A.D|M.A.D]] 11:36, 9 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> While logged in, go to Preferences » Watchlist. Insert the Watchlist Token (There is a random token generated below the textbox). Once that is done. Go to your watchlist. In the left sidebar that has the toolbox at the very end you will see an '''Atom''' link. Click on that to get the Atom feed (my mistake, it's an atom feed not an RSS feed, but they do the same thing). For the '''Recent Changes''' page just go to [[Special:RecentChanges]] and look in the toolbox on the left bottom corner for the Atom feed. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:25, 9 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Perhaps it's just me that's not good with that,since I found it easier to just look at the recent change page and see the character counts(is it correctly named?) of the bolded links.If it's &lt;(+500),it's presumably minor edit/addition.--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 17:48, 9 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Yeah. That's the downside. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:30, 9 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> And this is definitely major addition.Thank you very much Teh Ping-san.It's a great timing to respawn.~Our general has come to lead us.Warriors!Follow his lead!Charge!!*warcry*~(guess I went overboard)...Sounds like Sachi's mentioned here.Btw,the term using ''knife throwing skill'':''flying needle'' is used here,while in the previous volume it's ''throwing pick''.Can I change it?--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 08:18, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Excuse me for interrupting, but since when did Kirito wear black gloves in SAO ?<br /> <br /> Isn't it since Aria?--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 09:14, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Sudden! Amazing! I need to go read it now. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:18, 31 May 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Draeke&diff=159153 2012-05-31T14:05:42Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>== General ==<br /> <br /> Guess I'm just unpopular. Draeke 21:04, 29 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Unpopular how?--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 04:27, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hey there, and I suppose not so, I was just being witty I guess. [[User:Draeke|Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:04, 31 May 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Draeke&diff=159151 2012-05-31T14:04:12Z

<p>Draeke: </p> <hr /> <div>== General ==<br /> <br /> Guess I'm just unpopular. Draeke 21:04, 29 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Greetings.Unpopular how?--[[User:User753|User753]]-[[User talk:User753|Talk]]- 04:27, 31 May 2012 (CDT)<br /> <br /> Hey there, and I suppose not so, I was just being witty I guess. [[User:Draeke]] - [[User_talk:Draeke|Talk]] - 09:04, 31 May 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Draeke&diff=158719 2012-05-30T02:04:33Z

<p>Draeke: General</p> <hr /> <div>== General ==<br /> <br /> Guess I'm just unpopular. Draeke 21:04, 29 May 2012 (CDT)</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User:Draeke&diff=158497 2012-05-29T03:48:14Z

<p>Draeke: Created page with &quot;So hello, I enjoy reading some of the novels on the site, and sometimes edit things that need to be edited, but not always.&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>So hello, I enjoy reading some of the novels on the site, and sometimes edit things that need to be edited, but not always.</div>

Draeke https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Baka_to_Tesuto_to_Syokanju:Volume6_The_First_Question&diff=158495 2012-05-29T03:45:25Z

<p>Draeke: Various alterations to wording, hope it makes more sense, feel free to edit if you wish</p> <hr /> <div>&quot;...Yuuji&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;What is it, Shouko?<br /> <br /> &quot;Until when will the special supplementary lesson continue?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I think end of this week to the utmost. Really, even though the first semester finally ended too, to still have to go to school everyday, does that hag doesn't understand the meaning of summer holiday?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....But, it can't be helped for Yuuji and everyone in F class. Since you usually skip classes a lot.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Well, you have a point there.... Rather than that, why are you going to school everyday? A class doesn't have supplementary lessons right?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...There's no supplementary lessons, but we have a summer short course [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Translation_Notes_and_References&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1]&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Summer short course? If I'm not wrong, that's preparation for the college entrance exam right?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Un&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Yare yare. To go to school even during holidays, you're really enthusiastic aren't you? As expected of A class-sama.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....It has nothing to do with A class. Yuuji is there, so I go to school.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;You're still spouting that....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....If Yuuji's not going to school, then I'm also not going. Whether there's a summer short course or not.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Aaah. Got it, got it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...If Yuuji's not going to the wedding place, then I will bring you there. Whether there's any intention to marry or not.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It sounds like a cool line, but remember that it's a splendid human rights violation! Or rather, if it become like that, I will make sure to resist with all my power!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....Resistance is futile. Because I will do my best.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Why are you doing your best on something like that! Don't waste your effort!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Before&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Aan?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....Before, Yoshii said this.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;What? What did that idiot say?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....[I can do my best for the people that I like]&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That's not it, okay!? The implication of what he said wasn't that at all okay!?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Lately, I also think like that.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;What do you mean by also! Even if you look for it, you're the only one in the world who would think like that!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....With Yuuji, I will fight without any petty trick straightly with my arm strength for a marriage.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;What does marriage have to do with arm strengyaaaa! My skull! My skull let out a creaking voice!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Will you, marry me?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I won't! Or rather, I can't! It's too soon you know!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Ah...is that so...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ze...ze... Do you understand now....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Un. I was too hasty....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That's right. I'm still 17 years old you know? Even if I wanted to marry - &quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...At this hour, the wedding place and the civil office haven't opened yet.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That's not the problem you know!?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Un. I know. Just joking...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;.......How do I say this, you, you're steadily getting stupid aren't you....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...So mean.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It's the truth.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....So mean.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Keh.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....But, Yuuji&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Haa?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...That remark earlier, does that mean you will marry me when you turn 18?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Geho geho! What are you spouting about!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...I'm looking forward to it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;You know.... Until when do you plan to keep spouting those words.... It's time for you to return to reality.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...It's alright.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Alright? What's alright?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....Because no matter what, I will always like Yuuji.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Geho geho!&quot;<br /> <br /> <br /> ==First question==<br /> <br /> '''Please change the following words into English'''<br /> <br /> &quot;スペイン語&quot;<br /> <br /> <br /> '''Himeji Mizuki's answer'''<br /> <br /> &quot;Spanish&quot;<br /> <br /> '''Teacher's comment'''<br /> <br /> One of the basic English words, isn't it. Sometimes there are people who forget to write the first letter, S, as a capital letter. Please remain vigilant against those kinds of careless mistakes. <br /> <br /> '''Tsuchiya Kouta's answer'''<br /> <br /> &quot;Speines-&quot;<br /> <br /> '''Teacher's comment'''<br /> <br /> I wonder if you wanted to write &quot;Speinese&quot;, just like the form in &quot;Japanese&quot;. Too bad, but it's wrong.<br /> <br /> '''Yoshii Akihisa's answer'''<br /> <br /> &quot;Spaget-&quot;<br /> <br /> '''Teacher's comment'''<br /> <br /> No matter how I tried to interpret this otherwise, I can't see this as anything other than, you were going to write &quot;Spaghetti&quot; as the answer.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> The finals are over, it's a period where we're covered by an indescribable sense of freedom. The number of days left until July ends become just a few more. The loud voice of the cicada and the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumulonimbus_cloud cumolonimbus] that cover the surrounding skies, the signs that signal that true summer has come are being painted all around us.<br /> <br /> The season where the burning rays of sun rain on us - something that a girl who's mindful about getting sunburned might hate.<br /> <br /> Not only sunburn. The season called summer is hot, noisy, and even insects come out.<br /> <br /> But, even so, for me, this season is the one I like the most in going through the whole year.<br /> <br /> Passing through the cold winter, the season where life starts to bud, spring.<br /> <br /> The color of the mountain change from green into red, the season where preparations against the visiting cold wave start, autumn.<br /> <br /> The air is clear, the season where you can feel the shine of the stars closer than usual, winter.<br /> <br /> Even each of the other seasons have their own mountains of good things.<br /> <br /> But, in spite of all that, I feel that compared to the the other season, the season called summer always has something special.<br /> <br /> The boiling heat, the bug's self-assertion that breaks your eardrums, even the clamor of the baseball club that you can hear from the campus, all of them are the spices to enjoy this special season.<br /> <br /> Going outside, I want to feel the heat that can only be felt on this period. Frowning a little toward the bustling clamor, I want to bask in the burning sun rays. Wiping the unstoppable sweat, I want to move my body as much as I can. That's the right way to enjoy the season called summer, the period of time called broad daylight isn't it.<br /> <br /> That's right. Now is the special season called summer which can make your heart dance. That's why -<br /> <br /> (Yuuji, let's run. From this hell's jail of the soul.)<br /> <br /> (Nicely said Akihisa. I'm already fed up with this iron-fist-supplementary-lesson full course.)<br /> <br /> -That's why, we decided to run away from Tetsujin's supplementary lesson.<br /> <br /> (In the first place, to still have lessons even on summer holiday is a mistake isn't it. Moreover, most of the people in this class is male. Let alone study, it's hard enough to breath inside here isn't it.)<br /> <br /> My bad company, Sakamoto Yuuji, who sit right beside me frowned his full-of-roughness face.<br /> <br /> (And additionally, the one doing the supplementary lesson is iron man too.... He's so sultry even in the winter, in this circumstances, looking at iron man is just like a torture.)<br /> <br /> At the platform, the well muscled hot-blooded teacher, Nishimura-sensei a.k.a iron man is continuing the supplementary lesson without even showing a drop of sweat. The reason he doesn't even slightly show any form of being worn-out is because his trained physical strength through his hobby of triathlon. <br /> <br /> (For Himeji to still be able to take a note seriously in this situation.... Is she a monster?)<br /> <br /> (Just as expected of someone who has the capability of A-class's valedictorian - is what I want to say, but Himeji-san's body is weak isn't she. I wonder if she will be okay.... Lately it seems she's in a good condition, but I'm still worried.)<br /> <br /> For the time being, at least she got the window-seat position where the ventilation is good, but the best position under the shadow of the pillar is already given to someone else. As long as she doesn't forget to keep hydrated, I don't think anything bad can happen suddenly....<br /> <br /> (Iron man is pretty considerate about that think so it should be alright isn't it. Even if he looks like that, in proportion to who the other party is, he's pretty considerate to them)<br /> <br /> (Un..... he indeed look well at who the other party is isn't he....)<br /> <br /> That's why we're placed at the furthest ridge from the window where the heat from the sun is strongest and the ventilation is the worse. This is extreme discrimination.<br /> <br /> (So, Yuuji, how do you plan to slip out? The opponent is that iron man so if we're caught it will be hell.)<br /> <br /> (Akihisa, you invite others to run away but didn't think about any plan at all?)<br /> <br /> (If I already have a plan I would have executed it alone at once.)<br /> <br /> (Well, you're right about that. Now, what should we do....)<br /> <br /> While discussing with Yuuji in small voices, we're looking for iron man's weakness. Of course, we don't have the luxury of being suspected of talking with each other. We suppress our voices to the lowest volume and move our mouth like a ventriloquist when we talk. An indispensable technique for the boys in this class that iron man set his eyes on.<br /> <br /> [-Assume the height of the object before is h, when all of the potential energy in the object is converted into kinetic energy, the formula of the speed of the object in this state, v, is heavily reliant on the gravitational acceleration g and the height h which- ]<br /> <br /> Iron man was facing us while reading the text book out loud.<br /> <br /> To move now is not a good idea. If we made even a slightly stupid move, we will caught immediately wouldn't we. I wonder what should we do.....<br /> <br /> (Oi, Yoshii, Sakamoto. Are you two going to run away?)<br /> <br /> (If you're going to run, we're coming too. We can't stand staying in this hell any longer.)<br /> <br /> (Me too. If I stay like this, I will certainly die from dehydration.)<br /> <br /> While being troubled thinking about the way to escape, our classmate that sit nearby start to talk to us. Of course, their face keep facing the blackboard, and their mouth only move very slightly that you wouldn't think they were currently talking. The only person that iron man hasn't set his eyes on is only Himeji-san and Minami. The other classmates already learned this special skill.<br /> <br /> (Then Yuuji, how does the plan where we simultaneously run away with this many number of men sound?)<br /> <br /> (Human-wave tactic huh? It's a simple yet reliable tactics... Yosh. I'm in.)<br /> <br /> Yuuji, with his farsightedness that I almost don't understand at all, slightly nodded. <br /> <br /> The demon is only iron man himself. If we all scattering simultaneously on different directions to run away, even iron man wouldn't be able to catch us all would he.<br /> <br /> (Everyone agree on it right? No resentment for whoever get caught. If there's no more problem, everyone who wants to do it please nod slightly.)<br /> <br /> After saying that, everyone in the class beside Himeji-san, Minami, and Hideyoshi simultaneously nod. For 47 people out of 50 running away.... even though I'm the one who make the suggestion, but this class really is odd isn't it.<br /> <br /> Although, the more people join means the probability of me getting caught is lower. How convenient.<br /> <br /> All that's left is looking for the chance.<br /> <br /> [ - That means, the speed of a falling object is independent to the weight of the object itself. But, unlike the ideal condition in this theory, in reality there's also the resistance of the air. The reason a feather and an iron ball doesn't fall with the same speed was largely because of this air resistance. When it's inserted into the equation - ]<br /> <br /> Since the explanation finally reach its climax, iron man turn to face the blackboard and start to write something there.<br /> <br /> There's no way we're going to miss this timing when he finally face away from us!<br /> <br /> When we raised our hip to escape,<br /> <br /> &quot;Nobody move!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;&quot;&quot;----!!&quot;&quot;&quot;<br /> <br /> In that instant, iron man get a start on us. Impossible! We were found out!?<br /> <br /> &quot;You punks.... you've got quite some guts to try to escape aren't you. Is my lesson that boring?&quot;<br /> <br /> Iron man slowly turned this way and glared at us. Ku...! Just as expected of inhuman creature. To be able to read our escape just from our presence...!<br /> <br /> While we're being afraid about who'll become the first victim of the iron fist,<br /> <br /> &quot;...Is that so. I didn't realize you were that bored with my lesson. This is my fault for giving a boring lesson.&quot;<br /> <br /> unexpectedly iron man said something like that. Huh? You're not going to hit us?<br /> <br /> &quot;As an apology, I will tell you an interesting story in return. ....Himeji, Shimada, Kinoshita, you three close your ears.&quot;<br /> <br /> Interesting story? that's always welcomed, but I wonder why Himeji-san and the others have to close their ears. If it's something interesting, isn't it better to let everyone hear it?<br /> <br /> &quot;That's right. That was a summer more than 10 years ago - &quot;<br /> <br /> As if ignoring our questions, iron man starts to weave his words.<br /> <br /> &quot;-This is when I was wrestling with a exchange student from Brazil.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;&quot;&quot;Gyaaa&quot;&quot;&quot;<br /> <br /> Damn it! It seems the guys with low resistance are done in by iron man's sweltering words! <br /> <br /> Iron man's wrestling lecture in this scorching condition is just like a death penalty....!<br /> <br /> &quot;The opponent is a giant with a height of 195 cm and weight of 120 kg named Gino Grachero. He was a man whose arm was as thick as a female's waist. Even so, I wasn't going to lose. With my 188 cm tall trained body with a 97 kg weight, we clashed from the front...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Stop it! Please stop it!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;My brain! My brain hurts!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Mamaaa!&quot;<br /> <br /> The sound of the mental breaking seems to can be heard like a clattering sound.<br /> <br /> This is bad! My head starts to feel strange too! Have to think of a counter-measure soon!<br /> <br /> &quot; - But, he mistake wrestling with judo. He do an [http://www.makino418.com/blog/腕ひしぎ.jpg Ude-hishigi] move on me. But, there's no way he can win against this prided biceps of mine. Covered with sweat and with my blood vessel showing up, I continue to resist by not letting my arm get stretched. Then, the other party starts to go around my head without delay, and while pressing that bulky chest muscle of his to my face he start to do [http://www.hktayy3.edu.hk/~judo/newaza/kame-shiho-gatame.JPG Kame-shiho-gatame] - &quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Guaaaaa! No more! I don't want to close my eyes! The worst image cling to the back of my eyelid and it won't come off!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;He's not waking up! Fukumura's not waking up! Oi, get a hold of yourself!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Air! I need cool and fresh air!&quot;<br /> <br /> In this [http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/7/9/3/279344_279345.jpg Abikyoukan hell]-like situation, to bear the mental attack, I continuously looking at our class' 3 girls.<br /> <br /> First is the girl who doesn't understand what's going on and keep closing her ears while staring blankly at us, Himeji Mizuki-san. That gentle hair, that fluffy atmosphere, she's a girl that looks as if all her body is formed from healing aura. Brilliant mind, satisfactory physical growth, killer cooking, she's far above the normal level in all those categories. Just looking at her is enough to escape from this mental attack, and just remembering the taste of his cooking is enough to send you to the other world.<br /> <br /> Next is the girl who's looking at us with a shocked expression while plugging her ears, Shimada Minami-san. A girl whose characteristic is her ponytail, pretty leg, and slender body. A precious girl in the class who we can talk without worry, but just remembering her high attack power that she send out in her joint-lock technique is enough to make cold sweat running on my back. Well, even that will be refreshment in this situation so I can't say that it's something not to be grateful about I guess.<br /> <br /> The last one is the classmate who understand everything and sympathize with us while pushing his ears, Kinoshita Hideyoshi. There's a little sweat at Hideyoshi's eyebrows because of this heat. If it's hot, it would have been better if he would just wear the more breezy girl's uniform too. No, rather than uniform, how about wearing a one piece dress. Wearing a white one piece dress while being fluttered by the wind and standing on a plateau Hideyoshi. Un. It sure feels refreshing imagining that.<br /> <br /> &quot; - and then, using up until the time limit, we continue to attack and defend using Newaza [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Translation_Notes_and_References&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1] - N? What's wrong you guys? Already downed?&quot;<br /> <br /> When I noticed it, almost every classmates of mine already prostrating on the tea table while losing consciousness.<br /> <br /> &quot;Really, no choice then. Let's have a 10 minutes break. Reflect on your action for trying something stupid like escaping.&quot;<br /> <br /> After giving a gesture for the three person who close their ears that they can remove their hands, iron man instructs them to rest and then sit at the teacher's chair. It looks like even though we got some break time, he doesn't have any intention to go out of the classroom. I wonder if it's because he's still wary about us escaping?<br /> <br /> In this class that's fill with dead bodies everywhere, the few survivors approach us.<br /> <br /> &quot;Ano, Akihisa-san. What happened here? Everyone looks like they're suffering....&quot;<br /> <br /> Himeji-san worriedly look at the classmates who fall flat on their face at their tea table. Just as expected, she really is kind.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Uuumm, how do I explain this, it's some kind of verbal punishment, or rather you could say that it's some kind of mental attack....&quot;<br /> <br /> If I want to explain this, I have to re-tell iron man's story. Please spare me from that. <br /> <br /> &quot;Really, in any case it must have been something stupid again isn't it. It's because you think about something like escaping, of course sensei's going to be mad.&quot;<br /> <br /> At Himeji-san's side, Minami's looking at me with a chaperoning expression while letting out a sigh.<br /> <br /> &quot;Don't say that, Shimada. Akihisa and my seat's position is bad enough that it can't be helped that we think about escaping. It's around all-the-water-part-in-our-body-will-evaporate level of bad.&quot;<br /> <br /> Just like Yuuji said, it won't be an exaggeration to say that Yuuji's and my seat's exposure to sun already far past the satisfactory level. The absence of curtain wasn't a problem up until now, but it's because of this kind of period that make me realize the importance of that for the first time. So that thing wasn't only for making people outside unable to see inside huh....<br /> <br /> &quot;Is that so? My seat wasn't that hot so I can't understand that.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;The wind pass through mine too so it's still okay.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It's because our seat is positioned in the place where the sun exposure is the strongest and the ventilation in the worst. It's really awful.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;How awful is it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Around Akihisa's test mark level.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;On the level that human can't be endured by human then.&quot;<br /> <br /> What a thing to say.<br /> <br /> &quot;But, this seat is really around Yuuji's personality level of awful. Just now when I touch the aluminum part of my pen, I get a light burn.&quot;<br /> <br /> If a steel plate was laid out, we could make something like a sunny-side egg on it.<br /> <br /> &quot;You get a burn? Where?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ah, no. It's not something that bad.&quot;<br /> <br /> Minami spontaneously took my hand. It seems she's worried about my burn. Lately, the difference between when Minami in an attacking mode and when she's in kind mode is large. I wonder what happened. I really can't understand girl's way of thinking.<br /> <br /> &quot;What's this Shimada. Aren't you quite kind to Akihisa?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That's right. Minami-chan is too close to Akihisa-kun.&quot;<br /> <br /> Seeing us like that, Himeji-san and Hideyoshi start to said those words.<br /> <br /> &quot;I, it's not like I'm being kind to Aki...! I, it's just that if he's hurt I have to hold back when hitting him...!&quot;<br /> <br /> So you're still going to hit me even if I'm injured....<br /> <br /> &quot;Even so, I also think that Minami is kind.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Eh...? Even Aki too, what are you saying.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;You're helpful, notice about sensitive things, care about your little sister too. And also, you can put your love into animals too - as an opposite sex.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;You still misunderstand about that!?&quot;<br /> <br /> The last part was Minami's big secret that only I know of so I turn down my volume when saying that. A person who loves animal is kind, so Minami is no doubt a kind person.<br /> <br /> &quot;Listen well, Aki! It seems you misunderstand, but I don't have any interest in orangutan, the one that I actually like is - &quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;&quot;&quot;Is?&quot;&quot;&quot;<br /> <br /> Talking about such important topic such as the person she like, everyone in the class, including all the classmates who collapsed earlier, focused their attention on Minami.<br /> <br /> &quot;.........Chimpanzee!&quot;<br /> <br /> Minami boldly confessed in front of everyone's attention.<br /> <br /> &quot;I, is that so...... That's.... sorry, for misunderstanding.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;U.... T, that's right.... it's not like I like orangutan you know....&quot;<br /> <br /> Furthermore, seeing me shocked by the new truth that just come out, Minami slowly murmur &quot;I can no longer be a bride....&quot; with a cry-like face.<br /> <br /> What is it I wonder. Just know I feel like somehow I can understand something from Minami.<br /> <br /> &quot;Shimada. It's hard to be you too isn't it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Sakamoto.... If you're feeling sorry about my situation, please repair Aki's misunderstanding....&quot;<br /> <br /> Misunderstanding? If it's about Minami liking chimpanzee instead of orangutan then I think I already get it though.<br /> <br /> &quot;Well, this seat is indeed hot. I guess it's just normal for you guys to plan an escape.&quot;<br /> <br /> Hideyoshi put his hand on my tea table.<br /> <br /> &quot;Now that you mention it, Hideyoshi was really quiet weren't you? You didn't hear our talk about escaping?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;No, I did hear it....but my seat is a lot more cooler than yours. I dozed off because of that and missed the timing to participate in the plan.&quot;<br /> <br /> Even if his seat is not cooler than ours, to be able to dozed off in this heat, Hideyoshi sure is something else. Furthermore, there's also the matter of him not getting found out by iron man while sleeping. I wonder if his ability to sleep while still looking as if he's awake is also part of his acting ability.<br /> <br /> &quot;What's the matter? Did the escape plan become ugly because I didn't participate?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;No, that's not it. It's just that, as a part of stupid friends group, it feels lonely when one of us is missing.&quot;<br /> <br /> It feels hard to invite Himeji-san and Minami for things like this. It's different for good friends and stupid friends though.<br /> <br /> &quot;Is that so....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;? Hideyoshi, why do you look so happy?&quot;<br /> <br /> Is it just my imagination I wonder. I somehow can see a smile at Hideyoshi's face.<br /> <br /> &quot;Umu. Truth to be told, I'm a little happy to be called stupid friend. It's because lately you think of me as a girl. I'm a little worried about how you don't care about the part in my appearance that's different from my sister.&quot;<br /> <br /> The sister Hideyoshi's talking about is his twin older sister Kinoshita Yuuko.<br /> <br /> Well, both of them really do look alike, they're both very cute too...<br /> <br /> &quot;Hideyoshi also worries too much about weird things aren't you?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;No, taking account of how you treat me lately, I don't think it's weird at all though...&quot;<br /> <br /> Seeing me laughing it away, Hideyoshi said this sourly as if he's still not convinced at all.<br /> <br /> Why is he worrying about weird things like that I wonder.<br /> <br /> &quot;Because, to not care about things other than appearance, there's no way that could happen right?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;But, I&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Indeed, I do think Hideyoshi is cute, but if it's only that, there's no way we'll be together like this right? To study together, play together, it's because I know a lot about how good Hideyoshi is inside that we're together like this you know.&quot;<br /> <br /> To choose your friends based just on the appearance, I think that's a very weird thing to do.<br /> <br /> &quot;......!?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;N? What's wrong, Hideyoshi?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;D, don't look this way&quot;<br /> <br /> Saying that, I don't know why but Hideyoshi turns his back this way as if wanting to hide something.<br /> <br /> &quot;Mizuki..... Kinoshita is really cunning isn't he..... even though he's treated like a woman usually, only at times like this he wasn't thought as an opposite sex and get those kind of words...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;He really is isn't he..... My hard work's in vain....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Mizuki's still better. My hard work only results me becoming a high-school girl who loves chimpanzee...&quot;<br /> <br /> Himeji-san and Minami seem to grumble about something with some sigh mixed in while doing that.<br /> <br /> &quot;Nmu....? By the way Akihisa, I get the feeling you didn't refute the part about thinking of me as a girl though?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ahaha. Hideyoshi really worries about strange things aren't you. It's not like that kind of things need to be answered clearly.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Why are you avoiding making a statement!? Eei, do you think of me as an opposite sex? Answer clearly with a &quot;yes&quot; or &quot;no&quot;!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Youi&quot; [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Translation_Notes_and_References&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1]<br /> <br /> &quot;Mu.... the two answer is mixed in so it become unclear - or not!? You, on top of that, you mix &quot;yes&quot; and &quot;oui&quot; aren't you!? You really thought of me as a girl aren't you!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;By the way Yuuji. Mutsullini looks to be like in a really dangerous situation though.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;You're letting the fact that you just said it doesn't need to be answered slide!?&quot;<br /> <br /> Our friend who usually plays with everyone together or with his camera during break time for some reason doesn't move even the slightest bit and only blankly staring today.<br /> <br /> &quot;It's because his imagining power can't be compared to normal people. The picture of iron man and the Brazilian sultrily wrestling must have been freshly burned in his brain from hearing that story isn't it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;....That happens without difficulty huh?&quot;<br /> <br /> I see. So he become unable to move even an inch because of that. <br /> <br /> &quot;Even so, it sure is hot isn't it.... my sweat won't stop since earlier.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It is.... In this condition there's no way we can put our spirit to study isn't it...&quot;<br /> <br /> The tatami and tea table equipments look like something that further add the sultriness. To be hot during summer is a natural thing, but just as expected this is a little too much....<br /> <br /> &quot;What's the matter, Aki. You were quite spirited in studying during the final exam last time, but now you return back to be just like usual?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That time was an exception for repelling my sister. In the first place, I don't really like studying.&quot;<br /> <br /> The result of the test, in the end I'm in the fix of my sister returning to Japan. Right now, in order to prepare to move here, she returned for a while to my parents place, but my freedom is in a precarious situation now.<br /> <br /> That's why, I wanted to fully enjoy my summer break even more, but of all things to have supplementary lesson is really.....<br /> <br /> &quot;Besides, there's also another reason in the last test.&quot;<br /> <br /> Yuuji, who also shows that his low study motivation like me, said that.<br /> <br /> &quot;Another reason? Is it about the summoned beast's equipment being reset?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Un. It's because mine and Yuuji's equipment is extremely weak. We thought we might get a stronger equipment if we get a new one, but....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;You of all things missed putting the important name field at the test. It will be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_school_uniform#Gakuran Gakuran] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokken Bokutou] again isn't it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Uuu... I wished for at least a metal weapon....&quot;<br /> <br /> I don't want a bokutou because I feel like it will be worn out just from clashing with other's weapon....<br /> <br /> &quot;Well, with that result Akihisa's weapon might not be changed, but what about Yuuji? Didn't your score go up quite a bit since the last class division test?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;N? Now that you mention it. I wasn't paying attention to my score or my equipment since I'm too caught up in with other people's score.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It's because Yuuji is in the position of giving command right? You assumed that there won't be many instance where you have to fought directly with your enemy aren't you?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Aa. Instead of upgrading my equipment, having the others' equipment strengthened will make the battle easier.&quot;<br /> <br /> That kind of thought just naturally come to me, so this guy really must have commander disposition by nature.<br /> <br /> &quot;My final exam's result was quite good too. Perhaps my equipment became better too.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Compared to class division test, I can read the question better too on the final exam, so mine might get a little stronger too.&quot; <br /> <br /> It seemed Hideyoshi's and Minami's test result became higher. I'm so jealous.<br /> <br /> &quot;I'm sorry.... It seems mine doesn't change that much.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;No no. If Himeji-san's result become even higher it will be too amazing you know.&quot;<br /> <br /> Even if there's no limit to the test's score, to get a higher score than that is extremely difficult isn't it.<br /> <br /> &quot;Ah. If that's so let's all summon our summoned beast once. I'm curious about what everyone's equipment became too.&quot;<br /> <br /> Perhaps my equipment also turned better. Since the equipment before is the worst, there's no way it will become worse than before I think.<br /> <br /> &quot;You're right. To grasp our fighting potential is an essential need for test summoning war. Fortunately we also have iron man here, let's get permission for summoning and check the new equipment right away.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Right. Excuse me, Nishimura-senseeei.&quot;<br /> <br /> I called iron man who's sitting on a pipe chair near the blackboard to look at the class' situation. When I do that, iron man looks this way with a dubious expression on his face.<br /> <br /> &quot;What is it Yoshii. How rare it is for you to call on me.&quot;<br /> <br /> Of course I am. I'm not as stupid to voluntarily talk to someone when it'll add bruises to me proportional to the number of conversation we have.<br /> <br /> &quot;Excuse me. I have a request for sensei.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Request? It's not a strange request right?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;No, it's not. We just want to get a permission to summon our summoned beast.&quot;<br /> <br /> When I said that, iron man clearly showed an expression that said &quot;troublesome things occurred&quot;. I wonder why. Is there some problem or something?<br /> <br /> &quot;Aaah... Listen here, Yoshii. You're the Kansatsu Shoubunsha. Your summoned beast have more power than most people, and furthermore, it can touch things and people. To recklessly summon that kind of thing is not something good. Don't think about useless things like that - &quot;<br /> <br /> N? His condition is really strange. Even though he'll usually talks about everything clearly, he's really awfully ambiguous now. Is there something he feel guilty about I wonder.<br /> <br /> &quot;Nishimura-kyouyu [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Translation_Notes_and_References&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1]. It's not like we're planning something bad. We're just purely curious about what our summoned beast's equipment has become.&quot;<br /> <br /> Hideyoshi interrupted to help. Iron man won't believe me or Yuuji no matter what we said, but he won't be able to ignore if it's Hideyoshi or Himeji-san or Minami who says this.<br /> <br /> &quot;No, even so, Kinoshita, to call out a summoned beast besides using it for summon war is not something very good you know.&quot;<br /> <br /> He said that as if there's something caught in his molar. Just as expected there's really something wrong going on.<br /> <br /> &quot;Iron man. What are you hiding to that extend? Is there something inconvenient with our summoned beast?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;No, there's nothing going on, Sakamoto. Rather than that, the break will soon end. Return to your seat and prepare for the next class.&quot;<br /> <br /> To not complain even a word when called as iron man, this is really a rare sight.<br /> <br /> Seeing this situation, not only Yuuji who realized this from the start, even Minami and Himeji-san start to realize there's something wrong with iron man.<br /> <br /> &quot;Nishimura-sensei. Did something happen to our summoned beast?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Our summoned beast can't touch things so it's okay to summon it right?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...Now then. Let's start the lesson.&quot;<br /> <br /> Iron man ignored both of them and return to the teaching platform.<br /> <br /> &quot;Wait a minute.&quot;<br /> <br /> Yuuji grabbed his hand.<br /> <br /> &quot;What is it Sakamoto?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It looks like there really is something going on. I'm not going to ask to give use permission to summon our summoned beast anymore then. But, I want an explanation on what's going on - Awaken!&quot;<br /> <br /> Reacting to Yuuji's voice, the silver bracelet activated. This guy's silver bracelet ability is to create a summoning field. In other word, we can summon our summoned beast even without permission from the teacher.<br /> <br /> &quot;Well then, without further ado - Summon!&quot;<br /> <br /> Letting that familiar keyword from my mouth, A magical array like geometrical pattern appeared in front of my feet. And then, from the center of that, some kind of figure come out gradually. If there's no change in equipment, the one coming out there should be a deformed version of me in a Gakuran and Bokutou, but -<br /> <br /> &quot;Huh? My summoned beast somehow look....?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Oi oi.... What an extravagance equipment for someone like Akihisa. Is that armour?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It even brought a sword. It's completely different from before isn't it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;And also, isn't it's kinda tall?&quot;<br /> <br /> The one appearing is a knight carrying a big sword with body covered in silver armour.<br /> <br /> &quot;A, amazing! It somehow looks quite strong!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Oh dear.... This think really looks amazing isn't it. The summoned beast war gonna look like a real war isn't it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That's right isn't it. If it's like this, it wouldn't look that much different from real people would it?&quot;<br /> <br /> The summoned beast is usually the deformed form of myself, but looks like this time it's different. It's almost as big as my real body.<br /> <br /> &quot;The face also looks completely similar to Akihisa-kun isn't it. Unlike the cuteness up to now, <br /> this time it looks quite gallant.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Eh? I, is that so?&quot;<br /> <br /> It's somehow feels a little embarrassing to be called gallant.<br /> <br /> &quot;Himeji's quite whimsical aren't you? What's good about this ugly thing?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ouch.&quot;<br /> <br /> Pakon! Yuuji nudged my summoned beast's head. And then, that nudged head is separated from the neck and slowly fall to the tatami due to its weight.<br /> <br /> &quot;&quot;&quot;..........&quot;&quot;&quot;<br /> <br /> In front of us who turn speechless, the summoned beast's head who's separated from the body rolls quietly. That freshly severed head is rotating on the tatami for many times over and stopped when hitting one of the tea table's feet in a condition where its eyes looking to us. <br /> <br /> &quot;&quot;Kyaaaaa!?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Eeeeh!? W, what is this!? Why is my summoned beast's become unable to be showed on living-room!?&quot;<br /> <br /> The body is still standing in a [http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/nio.shtml Niou], only the head is moving on the floor. How do I say this, it looks even more grotesque due to it not being in a deformed form.<br /> <br /> &quot;N? Aaah, sorry. I didn't mean to hit it that hard, but I didn't think that it would get detached like that... Wait a moment. I'm going to bring a stapler.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Yuuji, what are you talking about!? You should be using glue if you want to stick something together!? Because you will make holes and it hurts if you use a stapler!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I think that's not the problem though&quot;<br /> <br /> Geez.... Does he forget about the fact that I'm a Kansatsu Shoubunsha?<br /> <br /> &quot;By the way, even if Akihisa's test result is close to zero, it doesn't have to become unable to battle as soon as it appears isn't it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Eh? Is this because of that?&quot;<br /> <br /> During the last final exam, my test score did indeed become zero because I misplaced putting my name on the test paper, but I wonder if that is really the reason it become like this. Up until now, if the score is zero we would just become unable to summon our summoned beast no matter how much we call it.....<br /> <br /> F Class Yoshii Akihisa<br /> Comprehensive Subject Score 1503 point <br /> <br /> As usual, the score number is displayed a little later after the summon.<br /> <br /> Un. It's not too high but there's definitely some score left, so looks like Yuuji's explanation is wrong.<br /> <br /> &quot;Akihisa. It looks like your summoned beast's neck getting detached doesn't mean that it became unable to battle.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Un. It sure looks that way.&quot;<br /> <br /> Just as Hideyoshi said, even if its head had fallen off, my summoned beast still calmly stood, and when I tried to move its hand, it moved without any problem at all. That means it became a summon beast with an attachable head right? It's looks like a very vanguard-ish ability..... but if possible, I would prefer a more normal one.<br /> <br /> &quot;Himeji-san, Minami. It's okay to open your eyes now. It looks like this isn't a dead body.&quot;<br /> <br /> I called out to the two girls who firmly close their eyes. To become frightened by that, just as expected, they really are girls aren't they.<br /> <br /> &quot;Hau.... Even if it's not a dead body, it's still scary....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I, I was just surprised you know. It's not like I get frightened by something like th...&quot;<br /> <br /> Those two awkwardly avert their gazes away from my summoned beast. The frightened Himeji-san and the pretending Minami bring a smile to my face.<br /> <br /> &quot;Now then iron man. What is this about. You know about this don't you?&quot;<br /> <br /> Yuuji unnaturally turn his gaze away to inquire iron man.<br /> <br /> Iron man let out a big sigh, and as if giving up, start to explain while clicking his tongue.<br /> <br /> &quot;....I also doesn't know about it much, it seems the summoned beast that you summon now will become a monster of some sort.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;A monster?&quot;<br /> <br /> If we're talking about a monster with a detached neck, furthermore with a knight figure to boot....it should be something like Dullahan right? But, why is such a thing get summoned?<br /> <br /> &quot;Just like you knows, the summoned beast system doesn't consist of only scientific technology. There's many coincidences and occult-like element surrounding it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;??? That means, what exactly?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ahh...in a word....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;They failed when adjusting the system.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Don't say it blankly like that.&quot;<br /> <br /> Iron man respond with a sour look toward Yuuji's answer. Is that so. I indeed heard that the summoning system's condition wasn't good before, so this is the result of that.<br /> <br /> &quot;From looking at Akihisa's summoned beast, it seems the adjustment made the occult part stronger. This is also interesting though.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I see. It's because if we're talking about occult, we can't help but think about monster isn't it.&quot;<br /> <br /> If I see things like this on a road during the night I won't be able to keep standing.<br /> <br /> &quot;Even so, why is it Dullahan? If it has to be a monster, there should a lot of Japanese monster that can be used too isn't it?&quot;<br /> <br /> I wonder if there's any reason to use monsters that's not that familiar in Japan.<br /> <br /> &quot;From what I heard from the headmaster, it seems the monster selected is chosen based on the summoner's characteristic and true nature.&quot;<br /> <br /> Iron man explained while folding his hand.<br /> <br /> &quot;Characteristic and true nature? If that's so then the reason Dullahan is chosen for me is because my knightly spirit affect my summoned beast isn't it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Akihisa, don't turn your eyes away from reality.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Eh? That's not it? If that's so, the only other reason I could think about is a manly person who looks good in an armour, or maybe a person with the strength to swing around a broadsword?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It's probably &quot;No head = Stupid&quot; isn't it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It came out! The reality that I tried desperately to turn my eyes away from was said bluntly by Hideyoshi!&quot;<br /> <br /> Uuuu... So that's really the reason.... To think that even the test summoning system thinks of me as stupid....<br /> <br /> &quot;Even so, if it's just from looking at it like this, it seems stronger than the summoned beast from before isn't it. The weapon is made from metal, and it wear an armor too.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;T, that's right isn't it? It looks stronger than before isn't right?&quot;<br /> <br /> Leaving aside the characteristic and true nature part, getting stronger is something to be happy about.<br /> <br /> &quot;I don't think it's stronger though.&quot;<br /> <br /> Even so, Yuuji said something that dampened the festive mood.<br /> <br /> &quot;What is it Yuuji? Is there something unsatisfying about it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That detachable neck is a big problem isn't it? What do you think will happen if it got off in the midst of a battle?&quot;<br /> <br /> Yuuji point at the summoned beast's fallen head.<br /> <br /> Ummm, if the neck fall of to the ground during a match,<br /> <br /> &quot;....it will get targeted, for sure.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I think so too.&quot;<br /> <br /> The head is the weak point when you want to beat up someone. If that weak point fell off and not protected by the body, of course it will become a target.<br /> <br /> &quot;Uuu... So it's like that....&quot;<br /> <br /> When you say it like that, indeed you can't say that the summoned beast is stronger now even if the equipment get more or less upgraded. On the contrary, the summoned beast from before is stronger because it can use both of its hand freely.<br /> <br /> While we're making a fuss like that, several of our classmates who finally woke up from the nightmare that they got from iron man approach us.<br /> <br /> &quot;Yoshii, seems like you've been doing something interesting for a while aren't you?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Is this summon beast? You said about something regarding characteristic and true nature right?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I see. So that's why Yoshii's summon beast doesn't have any head.&quot;<br /> <br /> I don't want to hear about that from these guys.<br /> <br /> &quot;If you want to talk like that then call yours too. A worse summoned beast than me will surely come out.&quot;<br /> <br /> When I said that, the three of them stand in line, the top of their lips distort, and an unpleasant smile surfaced on their face.<br /> <br /> &quot;Oi oi Yoshii. Are you sure you want to say something like that?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;There's no way our summoned beast will lose to the one belonging to number one idiot in Japan such as you right?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It's because no matter how you see it our characteristics is gentlemanly. There's no way a terrible summoned beast would come out you know? Watch this-&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;&quot;&quot;Summon&quot;&quot;&quot;<br /> <br /> Reacting to those three's summoning voice, their summoned beast's figure starts to appear one by one.<br /> <br /> ......Zuzuzuzu &lt;- Zombie comes out<br /> <br /> ......Zuzuzuzu &lt;- Zombie comes out<br /> <br /> ......Zuzuzuzu &lt;- Zombie comes out<br /> <br /> I see. I guess it's because their nature is rotten to the core?<br /> <br /> &quot;I, it's scary, Akihisa-kun...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Y, you lot! Quickly put something filthy like that away!&quot;<br /> <br /> Those three guys who got told that their true nature is filthy embrace each other's shoulder and start to cry.<br /> <br /> &quot;Even so, this is interesting in its own way isn't it? What about Hideyoshi's summon beast?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Nmu? Mine? That's right.... When you said about my characteristic, it's acting I guess. Instead of a demon, a mysterious person who's famous on the stage is more appropriate isn't it? ...Let's see. Summon.&quot;<br /> <br /> ....Pon &lt;- [http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nekomata Nekomata] comes out.<br /> <br /> &quot;Heee~. A cat monster isn't it? It sure is cute. It really suits Hideyoshi well.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It seems that Hideyoshi's characteristic is [cuteness] isn't it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;E, even the summoning system finally treats me like this....&quot;<br /> <br /> It seems not everything is scary even if its a monster. How do I say this, it's soothing...<br /> <br /> &quot;Kinoshita lured Aki like that again...!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I, I also won't lose&quot;<br /> <br /> Minami and Himeji-san make a scary face in proportion to how not scary Hideyoshi's summoned beast is.<br /> <br /> &quot;Akihisa-kun, please watch me. I'm going to show you a cute summoned beast too.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ah, un. I'm looking forward to it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Yes. I'll do my best.&quot;<br /> <br /> It's the kind Himeji-san. I'm sure it will be something like an angel or a goddess that's going to come out.<br /> <br /> &quot;I'm going to do this. Summon...&quot;<br /> <br /> ....Bon &lt;- Succubus comes out<br /> <br /> &quot;Kyaaaa!? A, Akihisa-kun!? Don't look at it!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Kupe!?&quot;<br /> <br /> On the instant I lay my eyes on the summoned beast, my neck is turned 180 degrees by Himeji-san. This is bad. Looks like my real body's neck going to come off too.<br /> <br /> &quot;W, what an amazing summoned beast..... ....... Especially on the chest.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Even though the exposure level isn't that big, but the largeness is extremely emphasized isn't it....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;A, anyway, some outer clothing.....au! it went through......!&quot;<br /> <br /> I was only able to look for an instant because my head got twisted, but I somehow get the feeling that Himeji-san's summoned beast is quite sexy.<br /> <br /> &quot;........Akihisa...! This isn't the time to go down....!&quot;<br /> <br /> And then, I don't know since when, Tsuchiya Kouta, who's known as Mutsulini, is desperately taking picture although his face is dyed by fresh blood, while handing me one spare piece of each photo. No matter how many times you press the shutter button, I think it's useless when the lens is covered by blood though.....<br /> <br /> &quot;Himeji. If you want to hide your summoned beast then get away from me. It should naturally disappear if you move away from the field's effective range.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ah.... O, okay. I'm going to do that.&quot;<br /> <br /> Himeji-san nods her head in response to Yuuji's words, hurriedly move away from him, and after making sure that her summoned beast has disappeared, she return back right away.<br /> <br /> &quot;Uuu.... So awful.... That kind of outfit, that's just so embarassing....&quot;<br /> <br /> Himeji-san, who turns red right down to her neck, made a crying-like expression.<br /> <br /> &quot;But, even if you say that, that is Himeji's true nature you know. There's no other way around it right?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;M, my true nature.....?&quot;<br /> <br /> Himeji-san's face is clouded with uneasiness while looking at us. U..... It's hard to answer that....<br /> <br /> &quot;U, ummmmm..... that's.... How do I say this....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;T, that's right..... It's hard to say, but.....&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It's the big chest isn't it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Uwaaaannn!&quot;<br /> <br /> Just as expected of Yuuji. He calmly said the thing that we have trouble saying.<br /> <br /> &quot;T, that's not the case at all! I indeed grew a little fatter, but it's not as major as it becoming my characteristic at all!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Stop right there, Himeji-san! If you say about that matter further a certain someone will get huh? Suddenly my vision field seems to darken?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Aki. If you have something to say let's hear it now.&quot;<br /> <br /> Minami smilingly pushes my carotid artery.<br /> <br /> E, even though I've went out of my way to stop the topic out of consideration...<br /> <br /> &quot;Leaving aside the outer appearance characteristic, the other characteristic I can think of is [Boldness] I think? After all, it's a succubus.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;B, boldness?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Aa. Now that I think about it, I can occasionally see that characteristic in Himeji. When you went home with Akihisa before you also said something like [I'll control myself so that I won't attack Akihisa-kun].&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Now that you mention it, before, during the opening of school festival, she also pushed down Akihisa didn't she?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Y, you're wrong. T, that was, umm, a desperation measure, or rather, a spur of the moment, anyway, that wasn't it...&quot;<br /> <br /> Himeji-san hang her head with a bright red face as if she's really embarrassed. I don't think she should mind about it too much though since there's a lot of circumstances going on at that time like the course of the conversation, or the effect of sake.<br /> <br /> Looking at Himeji's situation, a triumphant smile surfaced on Minami's face.<br /> <br /> &quot;Fufu. Poor Mizuki. It's because you have that kind of chest that that kind of summoned beast appeared.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Uuu.... This is too much...&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;But, on that point, there's nothing for me to worry about. Surely instead of an indecent thing like that, a fairy, a goddess, a war maiden, or something cute like that will come out. Just see - Summon!&quot;<br /> <br /> Gogogogo... &lt;- [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurikabe_(folklore) Nurikabe] comes out<br /> <br /> Not good. If I laugh now I'll be killed.<br /> <br /> &quot;...Ne, Aki.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;W, what is it Minami?&quot;<br /> <br /> The Minami who speak while keeping her back facing this way is bizarrely scary. Around the level of the-likes-of-Zombie-and-Dullahan-means-nothing scary.<br /> <br /> &quot;This summoned beast, I wonder if there is something you want to say to me?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I, I wonder what?&quot;<br /> <br /> While making my word ambiguous, I tried to look around for hel - it's no use! Yuuji and Hideyoshi already averted their gaze away while making a pitying expression.<br /> <br /> If it's like this I have to evade the topic to some other characteristic than the perfectly level part of her body! The only thing I can count on right now is only my own brain! Ummm, Nurikabe's characteristic other than the perfectly level is -<br /> <br /> &quot;That's right! I'm sure Minami is hard just like a Nurikab... ouch....&quot;<br /> <br /> After saying that, I realized something myself.<br /> <br /> So that's it.... This question, in the first place, there's no right answer that will enable me to survive with my life.<br /> <br /> &quot;Hee..... So I'm hard. At which part I wonder?&quot;<br /> <br /> If that's so, at least let's live till the end with dignity....<br /> <br /> &quot;Un... Surely,.... your chest is har... agaa! That's right! Your fist! Your fist is also hard gyaaaa!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;What do you mean by also! Even though you've never even touched it! Stupid Aki!&quot;<br /> <br /> I do touch your fist in real time currently though!<br /> <br /> &quot;Mutsullini, what kind of summoned beast did you get? You haven't check it yet right?&quot;<br /> <br /> Hideyoshi, it could be to save me, starts to talk to Mutsullini who have finished doing treatment to stop the bleeding. It's a little late, but nice follow.<br /> <br /> &quot;....Summon&quot;<br /> <br /> With a murmur from Mutsullini, nearby, a boy wearing a tuxedo with a bad complexion appear. It's somehow looks cool, but this is...<br /> <br /> &quot;I see. Somehow the image of always wanting some blood fits really well isn't it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;There's also a resemblance in the liking-young-women part too.&quot;<br /> <br /> It really is a vampire isn't it. It really fits Mutsullini in a sense.<br /> <br /> &quot;Since we've come this far, I'm curious about Yuuji's too. How about you summon yours too?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;N? You're right.... Well then, since I can't call my summoned beast this way, I guess I'll turn off the field and ask for permission from iron man. Even iron man won't complaint about it now right?&quot;<br /> <br /> Hearing Yuuji's word, iron man murmured a &quot;yare-yare&quot; and nod his head.<br /> <br /> &quot;Unlike us, Yuuji's personality is aggressive. The one coming out might be a combat-oriented demon.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Indeed, you have a point there. An ogre who brings a large crowbar, or Jason with a big sturdy chainsaw, or maybe even a god of death possessing a dreadful scythe will come out.&quot;<br /> <br /> The only image of Yuuji that I have is exactly like an ogre.<br /> <br /> &quot;Well then, here I go. .....Summon!&quot;<br /> <br /> While listening to our prediction on the equipment, his summoned beast appeared in response to his call.<br /> <br /> That thing's equipment is - a trained up body, a tightened body, and a body surrounded by muscle.<br /> <br /> &quot;It's empty-handed again isn't it!&quot;<br /> <br /> Yuuji's summoned beast appeared confidently bare-fisted. This guy, doesn't he know any other attacking method beside using his fist!?<br /> <br /> &quot;Rather than that, doesn't Yuuji's summoned beast regressed instead!? It's just equipped with a trousers isn't it!?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Furthermore, there's no special characteristic at all. The one that's coming out looks like Yuuji himself isn't it. Beside the difference in clothing, it's perfectly similar to Yuuji.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I, it's a little embarrassing to see isn't it....&quot;<br /> <br /> Himeji-san turn her sight to outside of the window. Yuuji's summoned beast only wore trousers on the bottom half while the upper half is stark-naked.<br /> <br /> &quot;Yuuji....first of all, quickly call that summoned beast that make everyone who look at it become unlucky back.&quot;<br /> <br /> To say this bluntly, this is nothing other than an opposite of service-shot.<br /> <br /> &quot;I got it. This kind of thing, even I don't want to look at it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Even so, in the end, what kind of demon is Yuuji's summoned beast? I really can't find out about that even the slightest bit from looking at it.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;.....Doppelganger maybe?&quot;<br /> <br /> Hideyoshi and Mutsullini tilt their head a little bit. Hm? I wonder if those two doesn't know what kind of demon this is?<br /> <br /> &quot;What are you two talking about? Isn't this a new variety of demon found recently in Japan called [Sakamoto Yuuji]? In the story, it deceives its pretty childhood friend with its ugly figure and dirty personality.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Akihisa. Call out your summon beast.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;N? Well, I have no problem doing that. Summon&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Aim toward World Cup! (Gako)&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Agaa! Yuuji!? You kicked it didn't you!? You treat my summoned beast's head as a soccer ball and kick it into the trash bin!? What a cruel thing to do!?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Don't be so mad, Akihisa. They said it a lot right? [Your friend is the ball]&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;It's [The ball is your friend]!? It's just bullying when you switch the order like that you know!?&quot;<br /> <br /> If the ball has its own will, it will surely cry being swarmed and kicked by many friends.<br /> <br /> &quot;In the first place, I never recognize you as my friend.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Then don't kick it!&quot;<br /> <br /> Even I don't think this kind of idiot as my friend!<br /> <br /> When, I just about to think &quot;Anyway, let's first take the freshly severed head from the trash bin&quot;,<br /> <br /> &quot;Nmu? Yuuji, your summoned beast's condition is strange isn't it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;O? It really is. What happened to it?&quot;<br /> <br /> When we thought that Yuuji's summoned beast's body are starting to tremble, its mouth start to split and hair starts to grow on the body with a huge force. <br /> <br /> &quot;&quot;Kyaaaa!!&quot;&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;......A werewolf.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;I see. So that's it.&quot;<br /> <br /> One of Yuuji's characteristic, that spiky hair, stood up even more, and that face that was full with air of wildness, turns into the very definition of wildness itself. Is that so. So Yuuji's characteristic is wildness.<br /> <br /> &quot;B, but, isn't it strange that it transform even though there's no full moon right now?&quot;<br /> <br /> Maybe because she's afraid of Yuuji's werewolf form, Himeji-san hold on my sleeve while asking that.<br /> <br /> &quot;Beats me. Maybe it somehow saw some kind of round thing? It's because the legend itself was quite vague in the first place. Something close to that should be reasonable isn't it.&quot;<br /> <br /> If you say a round thing......could it be the head of my summoned beast that was kicked before? The appearance while it rotate after getting kicked did indeed resemble something round, but is that really it? It was indeed the result of an adjustment failure, but they really are extremely half-hearted when making it aren't they?<br /> <br /> &quot;By the way, will this summoned beast really be fixed by the time we can do the summoned beast war again? If it's like this, it will become a big demon war when we do inter-class match won't it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;T, that will be troubling.... The scariness will be troubling, &lt;small&gt;and my summoned beast is really embarrassing too....&lt;/small&gt;&quot;<br /> <br /> Himeji-san's hand that's been grabbing my sleeves is grabbing it even stronger. To be afraid even at a bright place like this and with this many people around, I feel a little guilty to the person herself for thinking this, but I somehow she's a little cute like this.<br /> <br /> &quot;I also doesn't know that much about the summoning system adjustment. The headmistress might know about something regarding this.&quot;<br /> <br /> Iron man narrowed the gap between his eyebrows. It seems that this situation is something that even the teacher side dislike about.<br /> <br /> &quot;It seems that indeed it will be better to ask the headmistress rather than iron man regarding this matter isn't it? After all, she's the summoning system developer herself.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That's right isn't it? Let's ask the headmistress about this.&quot;<br /> <br /> I stood up together with Yuuji, and headed to the headmistress room. Summoned beast war is a really important subject for us. There's no way we can leave it alone like this. We really need to confirm it as soon as possible.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> [YOU TWO! YOU'RE RUNNING AWAY AMIDST THE CONFUSION AREN'T YOU! ]<br /> <br /> &quot;Damn it, Yuuji! We're found out!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Run, Akihisa! If we manage to run to the headmistress room it's our win!&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Roger!&quot;<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> &quot;Well, what's going on, headm - hag.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Please tell us, headm - hag.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;...I wonder why can't you just obediently call me headmistress....&quot;<br /> <br /> When we press her for an answer, the headmistress sighed as if she's tired of us.<br /> <br /> Damn it. Lately, whether it's iron man, hag, or Mutsullini, I somehow got used to calling them by their nickname.<br /> <br /> &quot;I'm sorry. Headmistress.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Han? Do you think I'll tell you if you change your remark, you stinky brats.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;No way!? That's just cruel, head-hag.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That way of calling is the cruelest one you've ever called me you know!?&quot;<br /> <br /> Not good. It's strangely mixed in because the spur of the moment.<br /> <br /> &quot;Oi Akihisa. Don't speak rudely to the headmistress who has a reputation as a young person in public (lol)&lt;!--(T/N note : the original version also have this &quot;lol&quot; word to indicate that he indeeds laugh when saying that part as if mocking her)--&gt;.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;You're also plenty rude yourself, stinky runt.&quot;<br /> <br /> It looks like the headmistress' mood got even worse than before. This is bad.<br /> <br /> &quot;Well, hag. What's the situation actually? Is it getting restored well?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Haa? Restored? What are you talking about you little baldy. You said it as if there's a defect in the summoning system.&quot;<br /> <br /> The headmistress looks at us as if she's looking at some stupid people. Leaving aside Yuuji, to look at me like that is just unthinkable.<br /> <br /> &quot;But, even if you say as if, the adjustment failure can be seen in plain sight isn't it?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;No, that isn't a failure.&quot;<br /> <br /> The headmistress shake her head just like a foreigner in a mail order channel. What does she mean by not a failure?<br /> <br /> &quot;That's just a little playfulness.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Playfulness? What are you talking about?&quot;<br /> <br /> I can't see this as something other than failure no matter from where I look at this though.<br /> <br /> &quot;It's because it's summer now. Isn't this is a season that somehow screams to bring a test of courage on?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Ha?&quot;<br /> <br /> What is this old woman suddenly talk about?<br /> <br /> &quot;In other word, you want to say that you tried to match with the season of test of courage and customize our summoned beast into a monster form specification?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That's right. This is a modest present to my cute students who still come to school even though it's in summer holiday.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;A present, that's ridiculous...&quot;<br /> <br /> Even if that's true, there should be some kind of announcement beforehand. It's really suspicious.<br /> <br /> &quot;Nn... is that so. Well, if the hag said that then let's leave it at that.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;E? We're not going to ask what's really going on?&quot;<br /> <br /> I'm surprised at Yuuji's unexpected words. I was certain with his personality he will press further question toward the headmistress after grasping her weakness.<br /> <br /> &quot;It's not like there's any merit for the hag to say &quot;Actually, this is an adjustment failure&quot; right? Let's gratefully make use of the headmistress' kind consideration here.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Make use?.... You mean, we should really use our summoned beast and do some kind of courage test just like she said earlier?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Aa. The headmistress said that it's the present that she gave with that kind of consideration right? Since we've reported about the change in the summoned beast, there's no way the academy side who care about their appearance in public eye will do nothing isn't it?&quot;<br /> <br /> When Yuuji send out a gaze, the headmistress nodded with a sigh.<br /> <br /> &quot;Yare yare.... Your brain works really fast only on things like this aren't you?&quot;<br /> <br /> His brain works fast? What does she mean?<br /> <br /> &quot;In other words, the academy side don't want to admit that not only that they operate an experimental system, they also failed doing the adjustment. It's good if it kept hidden, but they can't have it get found out by the student of all people.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Aa, I see. That's why they make it looks like &quot;an incident that we planned since the beginning&quot; by inviting us to do the courage test right?&quot;<br /> <br /> It's tough to get the attention from the world isn't it....<br /> <br /> &quot;Then, since it's like that, it's okay to do the courage test for the remaining two days of the supplementary lesson period isn't it?&quot;<br /> <br /> Yuuji happily inquire the headmistress. Then this guy, from the start he planned to use the test of courage front to thwart iron man's sultry supplementary lesson isn't he? What a good idea to think about. Good job.<br /> <br /> &quot;No, if it's just a normal test of courage then I have to reject it. The summoned beast is in the end a tool to raise the will to study. I won't recognize it as something related to a class if you use it only to enjoy its appearance.&quot;<br /> <br /> Only on that point I won't yield, the headmistress who just said that shake her head.<br /> <br /> In other word, it's no good unless we incorporate the using-test-score-as-a-contest's-element part right?<br /> <br /> &quot;If that's so then let's make some kind of check point, and do some kind of contest there sound. You have no further complaint if it's like that right?&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;That's right.... It depends on the rule, but it should be okay for me to approve it I guess.&quot;<br /> <br /> &quot;Yosh. It's decided then.&quot;<br /> <br /> Yuuji satisfyingly nodded.<br /> <br /> With this, we become involved in an unconventional test of courage that use the academy and summoned beast system.<br /> <br /> &lt;noinclude&gt;<br /> {{BakaTest Nav|prev=Baka to Tesuto to Syokanju:Volume6 Novel Illustrations|next=Baka to Tesuto to Syokanju:Volume6 The Second Question}}<br /> &lt;/noinclude&gt;</div>

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