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Talk:Sword Art Online

2012-01-18T10:10:33Z

Hayate-sama: /* Asuna's Avatar - a mystery */

==Can you Translate the Text on these Images?==
They are the ones at the beginning of the first book. Here are the links:

[[:Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Image:Sword Art Online Vol 01 002-003.jpg]]

[[:Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Image:Sword Art Online Vol 01 004.jpg]]

[[:Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Image:Sword Art Online Vol 01 005.jpg]]

[[:Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Image:Sword Art Online Vol 01 006-007.jpg]]

[[:Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Image:Sword Art Online Vol 01 008.jpg]]

Thanks!!

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I'll use Sharramon's translations for these... Well, for the most part. Lines may be wrong as well. They're just quotes from the story and descriptions anyway. 

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[[:Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_002-003.jpg|Page 002-003]] 
Kirito: “''Strange, Asuna. Why are you showing your face in a place like this?''.” 
''A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level.''

Egil: "''Our shop’s motto is to buy cheap and sell cheap''." 
''A merchant stationed at city [Algate], located at Level 50 of Aincrad.''

Asuna: "''Kirito-kun...''" 
''Of an acquired alias of "The Flash", the sub-leader of the guild "Blood Knights"'' 

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[[:Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_004.jpg|Page 004]] 
Kirito: “''Better than you can, most likely''.” 

Cradil: "…''I’m going to kill you… I’ll definitely kill you…. Do you think a pathetic player like you can protect Asuna-sama!!''” 
''A member of the "Blood Knights", serving as Asuna's escort.''

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[[:Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_005.jpg|Page 005]] 
Heathcliff: “''Fight with me, if you win, Asuna can go with you but if you lose, then you will have to join the Knights of Blood''.” 
''A cross-shield user, the leader of the "Blood Knights" and their strongest.''

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[[:Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_006-007.jpg|Page 006-007]] 
Asuna: "''D, don't...look over here...''" 

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[[:Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_-_008.jpg|Page 008]] 
Gargantuan Game Castle "Aincrad"

A iron-and-stone made castle consisting of 100 floors. Inside it are numerous cities, small towns and villages, forests, grasslands, and lakes. One stairway connects each floor to the previous and succeeding floor, and all of them are in dangerous labyrinth zones where monsters wander about. Players in this world rely on one weapon as they run past them, find the way to the upper floors, and take down strong guardian monsters, single-mindedly aiming for the top of the castle. Aside from battling with monsters, there are many scopes of play from manufacturing like smithing, leathercraft and sewing, to hunting and cuisine, to music. This is not merely adventuring in a vast field, [Life] is literally possible here.

"Aincrad" is the world set as the stage for "Sword Art Online", declared as the world's first in the VRMMO game genre.
 
 
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===More Pic Translations===
Could you translate those sometime too please? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 23:16, 7. Feb. 2010 (UTC)
:We should probably put the illustration translations in the discussion pages of the novel images, and perhaps just put a link here to them as a reminder.
::That was the idea. Or to be precise I would add the translations to the image pages in the image discription. And for those, where it work in the illustration pages, too. I did add they here only to show which images I meant --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 07:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

For Vol2 Img7, do i see....a love interest? XDDD On a more on-topic note, I think i put the translation for that page in the right section (the discussion tab right?), care to check?

-Kenena
====Volume 2====
<gallery>
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 002-003.jpg|Kirito:"...I'm sorry. I couldn't save your friend..." A [Solo Player] swordsman aiming to reach Aincrad's topmost level. Shrika: "...No... Thank you...for coming to help..." A [beast tamer] girl possessing the familiar monster [Feather Ridora].
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 004-005.jpg|Lizabeth:"Err, the dragon's attack pattern is a left right claw, and a water blast and a sudden gust attack! Be careful, okay?" A girl running the blacksmith shop at Aincrad's 48th floor main district, [Lindaas Street]. Kirito: "Idiot!! Don't come out yet!!"
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 006.jpg|Yui: "Wah~ Papa, carry me~!" A mysterious girl found collapsed in Aincrad's 22nd floor's forest.
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 02 - 007.jpg|Sachi: ''Hey, Kirito. Let's go run away somewhere.'' A member in the guild <<Black Cats of the Full Moon>> in Aincrad.
</gallery>

====Volume 3====
<gallery>
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 003.jpg|Asuna: "Quickly...quickly come and save me, Kirito-kun..." A captured girl inside the high specification VRMMO [ALfheim Online].
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 004-005.jpg|Lyfa: "Come, hurry! On to Yggdrasil!" A girl Kirito met in <<ALO>>. The race of her fairy avatar is <<Sylph>>. Yui:"Papa is carefree as usual." A young girl AI who adores Kirito as her papa. Supports Kirito as a <<Navigation Pixie>> in <<ALO>>. Kirito:"Oh...how exciting. At this rate I want to fly all the way." The strongest <<Solo Player>> in <<SAO>>. Turns to a <<Spriggan>> swordsman in <<ALO>>.
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 006.jpg|Kirigaya Suguha: "...I'm so stupidstupidstupid!" Kirito's (Kirigaya Kazuto's) younger sister. She's a third-year in junior high school and is a part of the Kendo club.
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 007.jpg|Eugene: "If you can withstand my attacks for 30 seconds, I'll trust you as an ambassador." The strongest knight among all fairy avatars. His race is <<Salamander>>. Possesses the legendary weapon <<Magic Sword Gram>>. Kirito: You're so generous, aren't you.
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 03 - 008.jpg|Yggdrasil. The destination of all players who log in to <<ALfheim Online>>. The tribe who reaches the legendary floating city above <Yggdrasil> and has an audience with the <Fairy King Oberon>, who lives there, is able to be reborn as a high-class race, the <Alf>. By being reborn into true fairies, the <Alf>, the hover limit imposed on the system is eliminated and unlimited flight is possible. And along with it, they are capable to become the rulers of this infinite sky. It's possible to enter this floating city through a dome at the root of <Yggdrasil>. However, guardian knights who boast of overwhelming strength guard the entrance. One year has passed since the opening of <<ALO>>, and that quest has yet to be cleared.
</gallery>

Quick comment on your translation for ALO. While I haven't seen any official English translation for its name, the Japanese Wikipedia calls it Alfheim Online. Personally, I agree with it since it follows the Mythology theme, with Álfar meaning elves in Norse Mythology, making Alfheim mean Elves' (Alf) Home (Heim). The reason I think it follows the Mythology theme is that I believe Yggdrasil makes an appearance (I couldn't find where I read this, and I have bad memory at best, so possibly wrong), Kirito's class becomes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spriggan Spriggan], Lyfa (or whatever it ends up being) is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph Sylph], and Yui is a Navigation Pixie. Hope this helps. ~EnigmaticRepose

In the Japanese raws of volume 3 (page 61), the name is written in English: "ALfheim Online"

[[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 11:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

* * changes my translation from whatever it was before to spriggan on the img 4~5 discussion page*
-Kenena


I wouldn't have known that I haven't read much and I know nothing about the Mythology theme, anyway Vaelis has indicted its proper English name. Mind putting the link of the jap wiki here? - --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] 12:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Japanese wiki: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%BD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3

[[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 13:01, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

==== Volume 4 ====

<gallery>
Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 002-3.jpg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 004-5.jpg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 006.jpg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 007.jpg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online 4 - 008.jpg|Add translation here
</gallery>

Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)

==== Volume 6 ====

<gallery>
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -002-003.jpeg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -004-005.jpg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -006.jpeg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -007.jpeg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 06 -008.jpeg|Add translation here
</gallery>

Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)

==== Volume 7 ====

<gallery>
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -002-003.jpg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -004.jpeg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -005.jpeg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -006-007.jpeg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 07 -008.jpeg|Add translation here
</gallery>

Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)

==== Volume 8 ====

<gallery>
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 002-003.jpg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 004-005.jpg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 006-007.jpg|Add translation here
Image:Sword Art Online Vol 08 - 008.jpg|Add translation here
</gallery>

Please translate these too ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 04:21, 7 January 2012 (CST)

==Editor==

OK some of you might notice that this thing has an editor all of a sudden. I've done this 'without' a supervisor..... I hope that's OK.... O.o

Feel free to keep editing if you see something wrong though, we're only two pairs of eyes and it's highly probable that we'd miss something. Also we aren't perfect.

This is also not going to affect the speed in any way (well except for only today I think... since y'know it's going to be first 'gap' but it'll be back to normal. Actually you guys won't even notice).

You're never be going to be waiting for too long.... well unless I'm translating slowly. If the editor hasn't put the next chap up in two days I'll put mine up first. The editor can chance it with his (or her???? Now I think about it I don't know O.O) version. But I don't think that that's going to happen.

And thank you all for reading!!!!

--[[user:sharramon|sharramon]]-- Jan. 16, 11:19:24 UTC

Far from perfect. We're both ESL (English as Second Language) people after all. The good news is that I can do Chinese-English proofreading/editing, the bad news is that tenses are a weakness for me. I'm trying to keep an eye out on other people's edits and track what kind of things I miss, but if you notice a particular pattern that I fault in please don't hesitate to fix and/or drop me a note. Also, having more editors is usually a good thing. -- Aorii

I should have asked before putting up my rather literal translation up, but is that okay? It has already be reverted though.
As when I went through the japanese text, some stuff was missing.
By the way, the tense used is past tense, right? Tenses should be same throughout the novel. -KuroiHikari

==This is REALLY GOOD!!!!==
I really like this. When I first started reading it sounded like just another virtual reality/MMORPG anime... thing, but now, it looks really cool!
Please Give us chapter four soon!

I agree with this fellows statement as well. It sounded dumb at first, but the character's feel far more realistic than i would have thought. I hope this gets alot of attention. Good luck Sharramon!

I like this a lot too. Sounded and is very interesting Very good novel. Please continue...

Thank you all ^^ I've done chap four now! But it's more of a run through of how the situation was like in Aincrad. The story starts properly from chapter five. I'll try to translate that as quick as possible too!
:I love you

Thanks for the update

This is good! I like the development in chapter 5. Will wait until next update! I look forward to the next chapter, from what i see in the illustration there will be some romance...

Dammit now I want chapter 6... Please give it to us soon!!! PLEASE!!!! And thank you once again for translating this!

This overwhelming pressure! XD I'm workin' on it! I'll try and get it up soon but the soonest SHOULD be Thursday but we'll see!

Thank you very much for your effort! ^^ Awaiting next update eagerly... You update surprisingly fast^^. Please do not take this as a pressure but as encouragement^^

This is turning into a pretty good response column, and for a nifty reason; SAO is pretty kick ass. All our thanks go out to you, Sharramon, keep up the good work! ps BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile! and as the previous comment mentioned, that isn't some weird pressure build up, its a compliment.

I agree this is really good, thanks for the translations

:BTW you have the fastest chapter updates I've seen in awhile!

That's most probably because this light novel has the shortest chapters that you've seen in a while! :D
And chap 6 done! Hell yeah!

Thanks for chapter 6. This is a really good light novel. Can't wait for the next chapters. I would like to know though when you get volume 2 whether Kirito stays with Asuna after volume 1 or not. Because looking at the covers for volumes 2 and 3 it seems he teams up with other girls.

He does stay with her. Book two's about the past and the third book is about saving her from a game or something by what I gather...

:Thanks for the info. I was agonizing over the thought that she might have died and he moved on to party with another player.

I shouldn't say so much! I'm spoiling people!

Seeing the update section.... I've realized that I've done more than a chap every two days WITHOUT the prologue O.O.....

That's why you're Sharramon-sama :) thanks for the great releases xD

damn! this is like reading Naruto. No, not the storyline, but on the updates... (yours is of course, much faster than the weekly updates) but nonetheless, the suspense, the waiting... it feels the same. Anyway, thank you for the fast updates! SPOILERS!!!!! nuooohh!!!

oh shit now i'm going to this page regularly just to see if there is any updates..

don't understand third volume images ç.ç aren't they supposed to have their true form? so why there are non.humans? waiting fro spoileeeers XD

:You will understand once the translation gets that far. It's not fun being spoiled. Because you just keep wanting to know more.

You are awesome and so is this book! I know this is a minor point, but semicolons are meant to separate two closely related things that could be sentences by themselves, like the first line of the synopsis. For parts like "...floating castle, 'Aincrad'; he distinguished...", it should really be commas on both sides of Aincrad.

Wooo, I left this for a while and its already this much already XD YAY! Again and again, thank you so much, Sharramon-sama XD

Thanks for chapter 14! Too bad there isn't a picture of Kirito in his KoB uniform =(

at first, i thought that SAO is just a .hack><druaga><yureka look-a-like... i was wrong.
seriously... i'm jealous of Kirito ;_;
Sharramon-kakka, you have my deepest gratitude (for your speed-translating). keep up the good work! XD
-randompasserby

chapter 18 is already out!! CHEERS! XD

== keep up the good work! ==

you know, you have the breaking record for the fastest update in baka-tsuki...
And we love you!

^^ What this person said. We LOVE you Sharramon-sama :D.

Sama O.O....

Uh...We LOVE you Sharramon-dono*? :D

We aren't samurai either.

Let's go with san!... or kun? Hell I'll take tan!XD

Nah, I prefer Sharramon-kakka myself. So let's use that!

You guys are bloating his persona, he'll be crowning himself emperor of britannia soon at this pace :p
:He IS the rightful ruler after all, so that would make sense.

Nah, You guys... Just say it like this "Sharramon-nyoro!!!!" RIGHT?

How about Shar-tan? He is Paya-tan's master!

All hail Britannia! (really couldn't resist saying that). I wonder what I'd like more... geass or a deathnote?

Easy. You like SAO the most!

Hey, wait... I'm a supervisor???

Started reading the first volume a couple days ago, finished it in one setting. I can't tell you guys how supremely awesome you are for bringing this book into english. Great Job and many thanks!

==Volume Names==
Both the first and second volumes are called "Aincrad"? Weird...

:That's how they are named. Take a look at the third colour page for volume 01 and 02.
{| style="background:black; color:black"
|They are named after the setting they take place in or so it seems.
|}
I know that, I was just commenting on how it was odd.

It all makes sense after reading the descriptions of thos images from volume 3 above.

== So because I couldn't wait... ==

I thought hey why not use ATLAS to translate the raw to at least get a hint of what's going to happen.
This did not go well, I mean although the program boasts its amazing accuracy in translating, when I translated the whole novel it didn't even make sense at all. In fact, a Google online translation did better than the $1,400 program.
So in conclusion, I decided to patiently wait . . . okay never mind! Please!!!! I can't wait! where's the next chapter...
Thank you for translations, I really appreciate it. I LOVE Sword Art Online!-Jun

I actually did the same thing, but I could understand like one sentence out of 15, and it also helps if you know what ATLAS translates the names as. I also found a timeline of SAO's events, and used Rikaichan to skim through it (I probably look for spoilers a little too much on series I really like, and I wasn't disappointed). Anyway though, I've been meaning to ask this: sharramon, are you using official Korean translations or fan translations?
-Enigma

Official. I'm translating with the book in my hands.... I'll have to buy another one. This one's gotten really dirty XP

I did as well. Oddly, I can figure out quite much of chapter 5 with it. It hurt my eyes and mind though. It feels like deciphering a code @-@. I decide to quit because the deciphering work reduce the enjoyment in reading it and when I read sharramon-sama's translation to find out he bits I'm missing, it just won't as fun since I got to know part of the stroy already.

@Enigma wait there is Korean translations of Sword Art Online? If there is, where could I get my hands on it? -Jun
Edit: Oh wait, never mind. I ordered the Korean version through AladdinUS. Can't wait to read it ^_^ -Jun

== Historic moment ==

SAO is most probably the first book in a while that got first place in daily views within a single month of it being put up in this forum! Thank you all!!! (is burning with a NEED to translate faster XD)

== Discussion Forum? ==

Sup. Kenena here~
Anyway, is there a forum for SAO (I guess its also ALO too, but whatever)? I dont wanna making a new comment here every time i want to ask something. Link or something would be great.

-Kenena

In the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Baka-Tsuki Forum] in the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=44 Auxiliary Brigades section] can be created additional threads if they are need for discussions about SAO, but there is also already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=3128 thread for SAO] --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:38, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== Volume 3 ==

Just wondering but could it be that Kirito and Asuna get out of SAO in the 1st volume but Asuna gets kidnapped and put into[Alvheim Online]? And then Kirito goes into the game to save her? Cause this pic looks like Kirito looking at Asuna with the nerve gear:http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/4/43/Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_043.jpg

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_000a.jpg
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_03_-_003.jpg

I think these two should answer your question.

Well usually to know this kind of things you wait for the volume to be translated don't you u_u.

===Chapter 3/4===
If the book version has only three chapters, then our translation should have also only three chapters, since the web version is gone and the book version is working as the translation reference... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 14:38, 11 April 2011 (UCT)

Ive been studying japanese for quite a while now, and can happily sayim slowly progressing,and as such decided to buy the published version that's still in japanese, two questions now: one, is it in kanji/furigana? and two if not what level of reading should i know to be able to read it effectively

== What are we going to do with 16.5 in the full text version? ==

Eventually Volume 1 will be finished, and we will do what we always do with a finished volume: make a full text!! But we have this chapter 16.5 complicating the situation. Does it go in? Stay out? Make two versions (what I think is would be best)? Something else? Let's decide what's going to happen before the volumes done.

I say make a full text with reference to 16.5 but not actual text...or throw in a link to 16.5 with a dire "read at own disgretion" message.

-Ence

i think we should make 2 versions of it, SFW and NSFW... XD - RandomPasserBy

:Don't add it to the full text. I wouldn't even add it to the volume 1 overview nor to the "forward to.." box, to be honest. 16.5 may be canon, but it is not part of the book. As far as I know, he had this chapter only posted on his back-site without any reference on the front page. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 08:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

oh yeah, now that you mention it... the book can't possibly have this chapter...

Considering all the killing, explicit violence that the book has, its already at least 16+ or young adults.. can't rate something M just because of some cybersex.. -Irec

Wouldn't it be better to, at least, put a link in the full text to let those who want to read it in the good context be able to read it ?

I think a link with a warning would work.

== Similar to Prince Revolution? ==

I've read two chapters of SAO and up to chapter 4 of PR's Vol3 and so far the settings are really similar, although they're different in terms of characters and amount of comedy and other things.

It may be very similar, but you can't say that this setting is very unique in terms of anime and manga, I mean, look at .Hack. I think that this is the similarity is only a result of the similar settings.

==Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)==

here, don't you mean 2024??? all the other dates were 2024

Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer occurs before the first 3 short stories.
It's also the most touching if you ask me T_T

[[User:Mikazuki|Mikazuki]] 11:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Am I going bonkers or somehow I can't seem to find chapter 4 for volume 3...flipped through my book. hrmph...

[[User:Datenshi|Datenshi]] 3:29, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I expect tears, given who this chapter involves... T-T

== Korean RAWs? ==

Anyone kind enough to send me Korean RAW scans of volume 2?
I can't find the Korean official translated book anywhere(except on Korean sites, which I can't order from)
Since I'm fluent in Korean, I could help a bit if anyone is doing the translations from the Korean RAWs.
--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 01:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

== Is there going to be a SAO-manga or did I just see something else? ==

Hey,
I just saw some kind of SAO-manga and wasn't quite sure what it actually was - a oneshot? some fan-made stuff? or is there really going to be a SAO-manga?

It's about 33pages long and just looked like the beginning of the first volume, though it was a little different.
And as I neither have seen anything about a SAO-manga existing up till now nor am able to read japanese, I just thought I'd ask here.

Here's the link: http://comic.xxbh.net/colist_171754.html

newer translated link http://www.mangafox.com/manga/sword_art_online
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Isn't that the illustration from Volume 1 page 2-3? Try google translate--[[Special:Contributions/68.100.64.165|68.100.64.165]] 06:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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As I already pointed out it's 33pages long. I should have made that clear, sorry -> http://comic.xxbh.net/201010/171755.html (link to the chapter)

Yup, there is a SAO manga. I read a few chapter in chinese quite some time ago.
- [[User:Destinyz|Destinyz]]

Ah, ok thanks.

Well, for those who intend to read it, a small advice : don't u_u. The novel story is way better, even though I thought it would be great in anime or manga x). - Allucyfer

== LAUGHING COFFIN ARC ==

Ok, I have been debating with myself (I'm going nuts) whether to add the LAUGHING COFFIN ARC in the table of contents- It seems that this arc, happened during Aincrad, a side story that should be included in the Volume 2. But because it's long (4 chapters) the publishers dropped it, but the events in this is mentioned in vol.1, tho, in a few words only. It'd be nice if we can read the entire story about this right? Kirito, Asuna and other Clearers vs the Laughing Coffin Guild, the biggest PKers in Aincrad. - Saorian

I'd love to read the laughing coffin arc. From what I've heard, it might be important to some of the other books. But, would you add it as if it were another book - like instead of Sword Art Online: Volume ## --> Sword Art Online:Laughing Coffin Arc?--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 14:36, 15 April 2011 (UCT)

How about like this: Volume SS - LAUGHING COFFIN ARC , and stick it between Volume 2 and 3? - Saorian

I added it - since Side Stories 1,2,3,6 were made into vol2 Aincrad, Side Stories 4 included in Phantom Bullet vol 5 and Side Story 6 got it's own very own book, vol 7 - It's safe to say that SAO SS 5 - Laughing Coffing Guild arc, won't get published as it's Timeline was passed on already (between vol 2 and 3) The other SS respected the proper timeline...

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Btw. if more timeline issues pop up you could create a timeline page, where the story is listed sorted in chronological order... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 21:57, 16 May 2011 (UCT)

== Simply Amazing ==

This is simply amazing. Honestly I'm not much of a crybaby I watch and read sad animes and mangas all the time and just take them in as a story. So far I've only cried twice during watching all the animes and mangas I've seen in the past 5,6 years of my life, to Bitter Virgin (Manga) and to Kanon 2006 (anime... which truthfully I watch all eps in a single sitting crying from ep 7 onwards practically non stop.). So far this Story has made me cry numerous times. It is so well written and the characters are so real its strange.Only problem I have with it is that I don't like how volume 2 works. I only really like the AsunaxKirito/Kazuka storyline not all that extra stuff that doesn't continue on with the story. Sadly the way I see it after reading Volume 1 I can't see any room for a prequel. The story starts with entering SOA. And nothing that happens up until he kills the Ragout Rabbit matters. I spose how Asuna and Kirito initially met matters slightly but honestly, I find it much better knowning that they knew each other as acquaintances and thats all. Even the part about him having Asuna nap next to him really doesn't add all that much.

Volume 3 while not as touching seems to bring up a lot of my memories of the first volume as well as adding in some slight new things... it doesn't really seem it (so far only on chapter 3) but it does so in a subtler way then Vol 1

- Karnowo.B@gmail.com / Karno
[Edit: Adding to what I have to say.]

Well, read volume 2 as it comes out and stuff. It is full of Kirito's awesomeness. Also, one of the things I love most about this novel is how "The Black Swordsman" is codeword for "Oh Shi-!" [[User:Ax'el|Ax'el]] 21:09, 16 May 2011 (UCT)

== The Tentative time line ==

I think you should remove the tentative time line from the page or put it under spoilers, because it spoils for people who didn't read it, how the first volume ends.

== Suspense: Volume 4 Chapter 9 ==

Ahhh dear editors, don't build up sooo much suspense! I and I think many others are like dying to read the final chapter (though i think the highlight were chapter 7 and 8). But really thanks a lot for all of your work! I really appreciate it!
== confused ==
s00000 uhhhhh chapter 8 was actually the last chapter and chapter 9 was a joke? im confuse.

No it is not, there is a chapter 9, and it will be out soon. If rnn doesn't post it by noon, I will.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 08:48, 24 May 2011 (UCT)

great, something to look forward for tonight XD - RandomPasserBy 08:51, 24 May 2011 (UCT)

ohhhh thx i was confused before but now im excited! cant wait!!!! --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 08:57, 24 May 2011 (UCT)

== Confused, but for a different reason ==

First off, thanks so much for the excellent translating job everyone's doing! But, I'm a little confused as to why v7 is being translated before v5&6. Is v7 a type of stand-alone volume/how does it relate in time to the arch's of v5&6? Ok, now I think I'm rambling, but I hope you get what I'm asking. Thanks again and keep up the good work!

They are being translated by different groups/people.--[[User:Darn2k|Darn2k]] 19:03, 26 May 2011 (UCT)

Ah! Thanks for the answer. Don't know why that thought didn't occur to me.

== Sword Art Online Extra Story #7 : The Cradle of the Moon ==
===Entry 0 [September 12th, 2009 (Saturday)]===

====■To everyone reading [Sword Art Online] via the Dengeki Bunko publication:■====
This [Sword Art Online Side Story 7] is written in relation to the web version of the SAO series, the 4th Arc: Alicization, but is designed to be read as an independent fantasy novel with names that happen to match. However, there may be some information about the Dengeki Bunko release accidentally obtained by reading this, so I would like readers to take these points in consideration when reading.
====■Glossary■====
*Underworld: Another (VR) World
*Human World: Located in the Western section of Underworld, a country surrounded by the《Mountains at World's End》. Only Human World citizen live here. Capital is 《Centoria》.
*Demon World (Lit="Pitch-Black World"): Area surrounding the Human World. The five races of Demon World citizens, orcs, goblins, ogres, and giants live here. The capital is 《Obsidia》.
*Boundary Wall (Lit:Wall at the End): An infinitely high vertical cliff that surrounds all of Underworld. No race can reach the top of the wall.
*Holy Church: Used to be the governing body that took control of all of Underworld. Later dissovled, it is now re-established as the 《United Congregation of the Human World》.
*Central Cathedral: A tower that was the former Holy Church's headquarters, consisting of 100 floors. Currently the United Congregation of the Human World's base.
*Knights of Virtue (Lit=Alignmen Knights):The strongest knights of the Holy Church.
*Sacred Arts (Dark Arts): The magic used by knights and sorcerers. Uses the eight attributes of Flame, Ice, Wind, Earth, Steel, Crystal, Light and Darkness as it's base.
*Heaven's Blessing: A kind of durability assigned to all things in Underworld. Beings that reach a value of zero will die, inanimate beings will deteriorate.

====■Characters■====
*Ronier Arabel:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Tsukika》.
*Tiez Stolinen:A girl in an apprenticeship to become a Knight of Virtue. Her knight is 《Shimosaki》
*Kirito: Swordsman. Representatve of the United Congregation of the Human World.
*Asuna: Swordswoman. Kirito's partner.
*Fatiano Synthesis Two: Leader of the Knights of Virtue.
*Sheta Synthesis Twelve: Knight of Virtue. Ambassador of the human world.
*Lenri Synthesis Fourty-Nine: Knight of Virtue.
*Mudai Syldrei: Blacksmith. Senior advisor of the cathedral's arsenal.
*Ishkhan: Gladiator. Representative of the Dark World's Five Tribe Congress.

----

Is someone translating this? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 15:43, 14 June 2011 (UCT)

== Appreciate the work ==

Hey, I recently started reading sword art online, and I sincerely appreciate the work that's been done thus far. I'd love to contribute, but an upcoming major exam's hogging my time. Sword Art's been great read, and it really helps in stress relief. Once again, thanks all.
this page has now gotten over 1,000,000 views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

== Great story, great translation! ==

I just finished volume 4 and I wanted to stop by and say how awesome you guys are for translating this.
This series is a great piece of science fiction and I'm glad you guys are bringing it to another audience.
I've heard how troublesome and time consuming translating can be, especially Japanese, but you're all doing an awesome job!

Keep up the good work! :)

== I think this is an issue ==

Chapter four of Mother's Rosario has the link that leads to chapter five, but chapter five isn't shown as being done or having any link on the main project page.

Probably means that the translator doesn't want his incomplete work to be shown to the masses yet I guess.--[[User:WingsofSnow|WingsofSnow]] 09:44, 16 September 2011 (CDT)

== http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=333893 ==

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~ 21:55, 1 October 2011 (CDT)

haha yeah an anime adaptation (w/ Accel world)
Hope it will be good like .hack

i heard a game is coming underway too, is that true?

How many episodes do you suppose there will be in the anime? Hope they're more than 12. Also is there only one season planned or will that depend on the ratings? GAME?!?!? mmo based on ALO or visual novel?

== vol 5 chapter 6 ==

any news on when it will be finished? or if anyone is working on it? kind of been waiting for a while now. --[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 23:16, 2 December 2011 (CST)

According to BCOFM, it will be release within a week (or month) around now. Dunno if it's true though as their TL drop dead midway

KR is still translating it. I just finished my editing portion on it to the current page he is at. The chapter is 98 pages long and he has 21 more pages to go [[User:Lp113|Lp113]] 22:56, 6 December 2011 (CST)

98 pages? Seriously? No wonder it take longer than usual to translate. I'll wait for it to be released, because it feels weird to skip over it and read the volume 6. Good luck~ I'm sure a lot of reader are rooting for you (me included) ;) - [[User:RasteShelphyd|RasteShelphyd]] 15:15, 9 December 2011 (CST)

== Replacement of nav table with nav template ==

I would hence like to propose that we replace the current (and if I may say, extremely limited capability carrying) nav table system:

ie:
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" style="margin: 1em 1em 1em 0; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; padding: 0.2em; border-collapse: collapse;"
|-
| Back to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]
| Return to [[Sword Art Online|Main Page]]
| Forward to [[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2|Part 2]]
|-
|}

with the new [[Template:SAO Nav|SAO Nav Template]].

ie: {{SAO Nav|prev=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 3|next=Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 4 Part 2}}

which is becoming popular and has more capabilities/advantages.

Advantages of the new system:
#We can decrease the overall page storage size. (No need to write long code, just the call code will be enough, take a look of this section in edit mode to get the picture.)
#Have a call code that is easier to:
##memorize
##recall
##and write. (Again, see in edit mode if you still don't understand)
#Have page jumping ability to any page in the series regardless of where we currently are, thus speeding up page navigation in case of checking previous or future facts for comparison.
#Can make changes to template page itself and have the navs on the pages immediately mirror the changes. (Reduction of data redundancy and error, ie: you wont have to go through all the pages and change every single one just editing the template page will be enough).
#Template's next and prev links are generic so they can be used for both volume and chapter pages without problems, ie: uniform system.
#Collapsibility ensures that size is compact and acceptable, for jumping one just needs to expand it by clicking the [show] link.
#Page center aligned. (Not really important, it looks better than right aligning it, still... minor point)

This template was previously fully implemented but then removed due to some issues. All those in favor or against please respond. If you wish any improvements to the template then please suggest them on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. I will address them as best as I can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:25, 11 December 2011 (CST)

Hey hey. If there is no one against it then it is fine to implement it, right? I mean the advantages listed above show that it is more beneficial to implement. And no one having any points against it kinda also suggests the same. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 07:34, 28 December 2011 (CST)

I'm against it and I already implemented a nav bar with most of the advantages you mentioned. I put it in volume 1 and will do the other volume soon.
[[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 08:47, 28 December 2011 (CST)

Hmm so you are using this:
{{Nav|Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|{{SAO List v1a}}|Sword Art Online}}

Page jumping is still not implemented. That is the main functionality of my proposed template. And you say that you are against it? May I ask why? Please explain in detail. I say that there is a great advantage in implementing it because it will allow both users and translators to jump between pages.
*Translators will be able to navigate between their different chapters more easily and create new chapters with just a click. ''(Plus since the chapter page names will be decided beforehand there won't be a chance of page name inconsistency that often happens.)''
*Furthermore, users will be able to navigate more easily as well ''(in the case of dead ends as well as to check a previous chapter for a related fact, or to skip a volume while re-reading, people do that you know)''.

If I recall previously you mentioned that you didn't like how the template ''looks'' like, is that correct? I must tell you that Infinite Stratos, Itsuka Tenma, Toaru, BakaTest, Chrome Shelled Regios, Dantalian no Shoka have all implemented and started making use of similar templates. I'm only trying to do what is best for this project. Please support me. I assure you that you won't regret it. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:26, 28 December 2011 (CST)

On the opposite side the template Vaelis has implemented is rather interesting. Hmm it has properly addressed the problem of repetition, excessive space wastage, as well as the non-user-friendly coding. Particularly that is automatically generating the links. Very interesting. I'll examine it thoroughly. Maybe I can implement that in my templates somehow. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:28, 28 December 2011 (CST)

Hey hey. We need more participants in this discussion. Please tell us which template you think has more functionalities. User feedback is essential. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)

I don't know about other people, but all I need is the link back to Main. The Back and Next is nice extra. For reading, I mainly use my other comp that is not logged on, so I can read cached stuff which is faster. If people don't already know, if you sign in with a name while reading, you get served fresh pages every time, anon people get faster cached pages. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:24, 28 December 2011 (CST)

- Personally, I don't really care as long as "forward" "main page" are included, since I simply tap backspace to get back, though I must say it'd look ugly without the "back button". Also, jumping through halyard from a volume to another volume is, I must say, unuseful in my case. However, I find the nav bar pretty good-looking, which is the reason why I wasn't fully opposed back then, even if I was sceptical about it. Personally, if the bar could simply keep the back/forward buttons, the main page buttons, it'd be fine, though I would like the chapter names indicated on th next/previous button. Also, I feel more concerned about these huge references tag that take too much space in the text than the nav bar... [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:09, 28 December 2011 (CST)

I agree with Kira. Note this isn't about SAO directly but rather about this type of navbar as a whole. If I really want to jump chapters/volumes, I really won't care about 2 clicks instead of 1 (Main -> the chapter I want). Actually, I don't even use the Main button much, just the Forward one. I can't recall ever using the Back button.

For me I'm fine whether or not the chapter name is included, because when just reading I don't care what the name of the next chapter is, I can just click Forward to get to it, and when I'm editing stuff I use the Main Page as a portal (it'd be open in a tab by itself) and the chapter names are available there.

In fact, I've even created a group of navs that have most of the advantages you state and maintains the simplicity of the Nav template, but is in my opinion better than the generic Nav template, in that it is specialized for each novel, so if it needs to be changed for some specific novel it can be done without affecting any of the other novels. They can be found [[:Category:Simple_Navbars|here]]. It would be nice if there is some kind of standard that could be decided, for the moment anyways. By the way, I'm starting to think this doesn't fit in the SAO talk anymore and maybe should have a forum topic.. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 21:43, 28 December 2011 (CST)

Hmm, interesting points, I'll try and explain my reasoning below:

*You guys might say that you don't care but you must admit that it is much easier to navigate if it is a one step method (chapter A -> chapter B) rather than a two step method (Chapter A -> Main Page -> Chapter B). While you may say you might not care, page jumping can help speed up navigation for those who reach dead ends or are translating multiple chapters at the same time. Plus the Next, Previous and Main Page Links are already present in the SAO Nav. Additionally I don't think forum is needed. This is about SAO strictly.
*About chapter names included in the next previous: my stance is that it makes the whole thing look bulky. And you can simply expand SAO Nav not only to see your own position (black text) but also the positions of all the chapters (translated and untranslated) this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.
*Those who strictly want to use the next/previous/main buttons need not expand the template at all just use the Next, Prev and Main Page Name Links. It's a system that caters to both types. And just doesn't restrict itself to one type. Plus the SAO Nav is for the SAO Novels alone so making changes in it will only affect SAO and no other novels.
*I am not a fan of the words forward and back since they give off a vibe in terms of page navigation history rather than novel navigation (by page history navigation I mean those two back and forward buttons in the Navigation Toolbar of your Internet Browser).
*Simple Navs only cater to those who read through linearly and only once. Not everyone does. SAO Nav caters to both parties and it's already ready to roll, so why is it wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:37, 28 December 2011 (CST)

this helps motivate people to translate more chapters in less time because of the clash between the visual red and blue links.

hahaha if only that was true :P

It's not "wrong" imo, it just seems a bit ... overkill. I'm neither for nor against, in that my stance is "I don't really care either way as long as there is some way to get to the next chapter", but I would like it to be standardized. Also, even if this is SAO only I still think it belongs in the forums because it's hard to quote stuff in wiki. --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 00:54, 29 December 2011 (CST)

It's actually true. It's a subconscious trick I learned from my experience with mediawiki. People can't stand redlinks. They desire to remove them or turn them blue. If they can't remove them then they can '''only''' turn them blue by making articles. This is one of the things I have learned. Please have faith in me. I believe this trick has actually helped speed up the translation rates on many of the projects where similar templates have been implemented. I don't know about you guys, but I am sick and tired of waiting. If only I could read kanji/hiragana/katagana, I could help translate. But since I can't I must use such methods. If I didn't I'd just be a simple leacher (At least this way I can contribute indirectly). Furthermore, I assure you that my template will sate '''both''' those who want linear navigation '''and''' those who need to jump between chapters quickly. Isn't that better than just favoring one party? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)

I hereby declare. Implementing SAO Nav '''will''' improve not only the navigation but also the rate of translation. It is a time-tested surefire method. Please support me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:34, 29 December 2011 (CST)

There's no need for that. Ping's doing a good job enough so we don't need to subconsiously press him. IMO, anavbar should just go forward and to the main page. No, wait, you just need to click 'SAO' on the sidebar to get back to the main page. Also, Zero, I'll ask you this: When do you surf through a certain chapter of a volume to another chapter 2-3 volumes after? There's no need for that, and in my old computer, the bar colapses too slowly. Not that I do really mind, since it's at the bottom, but still, it loads unnecessary content. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 11:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)

I prefer the old one for its simplicity. Just go for previous/next chapter, and navigate 2 other chapters frm main page. short n simple. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 11:29, 29 December 2011 (CST)

Time-tested surefire method? Where's the evidence? As for why I personally don't think the chapter jumping is useful, it is because I actually rely on chapter titles to look for where I want to jump to, and this navbar doesn't have (and can't really have) chapter titles. So, to me there is no advantage of this navbar over the old one, so I am not supporting it.

At the same time, to me there is no disadvantage that this navbar brings since my internet and computer are fast enough to load both at around the same speed, so I am not against it either... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 13:13, 29 December 2011 (CST)

I completely agree with 'chapters title' issue --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 13:27, 29 December 2011 (CST)

Simple design is fine, but the aforementioned lack of chapter title is a huge turn-off for me as well --[[User:TheQwertiest|TheQwertiest]] 14:15, 29 December 2011 (CST)

It is time tested. Shortly after it's implementation Infinite Stratos picked up it's pace of translation as did Itsuka Tenma and Baka Test, I will concede that for some reason it didn't work on Hidan no Aria, but it still has a high success rate. Toaru and Chrome Shelled don't count because they are near completion. About the chapters title issue. I can easily implement further variable tags that can take chapter names from writers and thus display them like the nav table of old. Even though I won't like that but if you guys say that you prefer it that way I can do it. Or I can Implement a system like the one in the [[Template:Nav]]. To have both links and have chapter names be generated automatically. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:20, 29 December 2011 (CST)

I surf/go back to check up on a previous fact. For example in chapter 9 of volume 4 the people from Volume 2 make an appearance. I can go back to refresh my memory of them. And sorry I don't just read a story once. I find that I understand new things each time I read them (like foreshadowings, predictions, etc). Each time I read through I find new and more interesting tidbits. And I am not alone in this. Each and every person goes through stories more than once, either due to the aforementioned reasons or just because they want to read through it again. And it is not definite that they will read through all the volumes linearly. Some might want to skip certain volumes. And I for one find going back to the main page tiresome. It's unnecessary. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:33, 29 December 2011 (CST)

Though

1. Infinte Stratos was pretty much because Ping joined in. The content is rather easy. So is Baka-Test. I don't know about Itsuten though. However, the implentation of nav bar coincided with the summer vacations, if I remember well, so it's another factor.

2. OK, fine, some do use the 'skip a few chapters' function. However, from what I see from the comments, no one else needs it really.
[[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:59, 29 December 2011 (CST)

Yeah, I'm not sure that counts as proof, since the cause-effect could really go either way. Rather, I have a feeling it is because the translation speed picked up that there was more attention which led to the navbar being implemented. After all, I only see this navbar in the most popular novels...

And I was talking about the chapter names in the expanded navbar. I don't really care about chapter names in the next/prev because the only time I need chapter names is when I'm looking back for stuff. I don't think this navbar can easily have chapter name support in the expanded mode because some of them are really long.

I'll try to stop writing anything more here since my stance is neutral anyways... --[[User:Jonathanasdf|jonathanasdf]] 17:45, 29 December 2011 (CST)

*''About being not needed:'' Dude, that's how all new things start out. People think they don't need them but give a while of use and it becomes indispensable. A few centuries ago people didn't need electricity or natural gas as much as they do now. But now, they start rioting if it's cut off for too long.
*''About Translation Speed:'' Ping was present before the template was added as well but only two volumes were translated. However after the Infinite Stratos Nav was implemented I believe a fire was sparked in Ping. I believe the redlinks were the motivation or rather the inspiration he needed. Of course I don't think this method affects everyone. But I'm sure it does affect some. and their example will move others, kind of like those cartoons where a little rock knocks down a bigger one which in turn knocks over an even bigger one, thus triggering an avalanche. We need to motivate people, even if the most mundane or subliminal methods are present I believe we should grasp and use them. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:49, 29 December 2011 (CST)

Even if it is circumstantial evidence at best I have faith in this method. About chapter names: True it would be difficult to implement full chapter names. But it is possible in some cases. However we are not talking abpout nav templates as a whole. Only for SAO. Please bear that in mind. And SAO does not have many named chapters. So that isn't an issue here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)

...Zero, why would Ping scroll the nav bar anyways to see the red links? In my case, I post the translation, then I say 'Goodbye' and leave. Also, he posts his translation progression in the forums, in a portfolio.

For the chapter names, I'd like to say that I want to know where I'm heading when I press 'forward'. Especially when there's 24 chapters in a volume that you don't care to remember which chapter you are on. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 21:38, 29 December 2011 (CST)

Seeing red once would be enough, it stays in your head. Plus it is a fact that the pace picked up after implementation. And like I said I can add the next/prev page name display functionality if you guys really want it. But that's something to be requested on the [[Template Talk:SAO Nav]] page. It's actually quite simple to implement that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)
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OK, here are the facts, ingnoring the IS argument since it was mostly because Ping started translating like a madafter he finished Index. They obviously show the opposite of what you are saying. Here's my statement: '''The translation pace does not get faster if there is a nav bar of added, with all the red links and else. It might even slow the pace.'''

*Itsuten: Volume 1 got completed 7 days earlier than Volume 3. Volume 1 was done before the nav bar was added, and volume 3, after. Can't say if it worked or not, but it's more penching towards the 'no' side.

*Hidan no Aria: The comparison before/after is obvious. It didn't work.

*Dantalian: What is the number of chapters completed since the nav bar was added? 0. It probably didn't work.

*Chrome Shelled Regios: 41k done in around four months. Around 178k before for the same length of time. Didn't work.

*Toaru Majutsu no Index, NT and SS: I can't find the updates page, but it probably changed nothing. However, Ping retired shortly after, so the place probably got slower. Following that reasoning, I say that it has less translation after. Though let's put this in the gray zone if you really want to insist.

*Baka To test: Volume7 has been done in 78 days. Volume 3.5 in 76. Hwever, since the nav bar was added during the translation of 7, soI can't use that. As for Volume 7.5, I didn't calculate it as different chapters were done in different orders, and that I use the beginning of the first chapter and the creation of the full text as references.

*Sword Art Online: During the time the bar was used, there were no completed chapters. Did not work.

So, you argument does not stand, Zero. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 15:45, 30 December 2011 (CST)

:Finally, someone who does his homework. I see, but I still hold that it does motivate others at a subconscious level (so much so that people don't realize it, normal rate is that it takes half a year to translate a single volume). It does not change the fact that SAO Nav will make navigation easier. Does it? Easier navigation leads to more popularity in websites which in turn will lead to faster development here. '''[http://www.mardiros.net/good-navigation.html That is a fact]''' (See ''Less clicks the better''). Jeez it's even drilled into every Computer Science student while discussing website development. Just look at the sidebar on the left. Why do you think they listed and linked the project names there when they could have made a separate page with the list? Answer: for faster navigation. Just because you won't use it, it's not right to ignore those who do. If you think there are people who would use it, shouldn't you accommodate them? Or will you ignore them just because they don't think like you. That's why I integrated next prev in all the nav templates, so that ''both sides would be happy''. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)

:You also mentioned (many posts ago) that the SAO Nav would collapse slowly. That's a personal problem. Since coding is used for the collapsing function, it stands that it's the fault of your computer alone. Nowadays everyone has at least a Core 2 Duo level processor. Those who don't are way behind the times. If you also have a Core 2 Duo or higher level processor then you must have CPU % intensive processes running on your computer in the background (try terminating them if there are, just be sure to check if they aren't a critical process on the net). But even if you don't and there is some other reason for the slowness that is no concrete reason to shelve faster navigation. The bar is at the bottom. By the time you would reach the bottom of the page (while reading) it would already have been collapsed. Like I said before it might not seem necessary now but give it a few weeks and it'll become indispensable. That's how it always goes with every new thing. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)

:Toaru and Chrome Shelled Regios were already near completion before the navbar was implemented. The navbar does not seem to work for nearly completed projects for some reason. I acknowledge that weak point. I also acknowledged that the navbar doesn't affect everyone but those it does effect would in turn affect others. As for SAO I don't think enough time was given before it was taken down. Thus that cannot be included. Hidan no Aria: well I won't say anything on those guys. They'd probably take offense. But at least they didn't reject the template so they must have either found it useful or didn't care. Come to think about it if you don't care either way then there isn't any problem is there? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:32, 30 December 2011 (CST)

I was wondering why Zero2001 is arguing so hard, now I know. From the look of Teh Ping's SAO talk page, you are a big fan, haha. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 20:05, 31 December 2011 (CST)

:Yes. Yes. Yes. I am a <big>'''BIG'''</big> fan. But I can't translate (although I can be an editor/proofreader, but I don't think it's enough). So I did what I could and made a nav template with advanced features. I wanted to help in any way I could. And what happened? A few days later all the changes I made were removed just because it looked slightly different from before. Look, with progress comes change. You can't help it. If you can't adapt then we'll just stay stuck in the same place forever. If you google it you'll find thousands of articles by famous website developers saying one thing. The lesser the number of page loadings required to get to a goal the better, aka "less clicks the better". Why do you think the sidebar with links to all projects exist? Why do you think that the chapters are transcluded into one volume page after said volume is completed? Answer: people want to reach their goal quickly and with less page loading. Please, I humbly request that I be allowed to apply SAO Nav. It will speed up page navigation for sure, thus it is '''''beneficial''''' '''(not detrimental)''' to the SAO Project. I only want to help with what I can. Please let me. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:44, 31 December 2011 (CST)

Think I have an idea about the resistance, your version is nice but it's a lot of work to update. I think they want a standardized version that's easy to use, even for people with not a lot of wiki knowledge. Or do you promise to make them forever? [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:04, 31 December 2011 (CST)

:I can promise to make and update them for a long time. And I promise that before I leave I will train a successor that can do it as good as or even better than me. I can't say forever since life doesn't have any guarantees. Plus actually the templates are understandable by anyone who just sits down and looks at the code properly. That's how I learned, at least (ie: By looking at others work and understanding how it is done). Furthermore I think there are candidates for my successor here already. Vaelis who designed [[Template:Nav]] for instance, there's also larethian. And what do you mean it is a lot of work to update? For a new volume, all you have to do is copy the code for the previous row, make the necessary changes (ie: change the volume number and chapter links) and viola! It isn't tough at all. The people at other projects have already learned how to update them. Just a few days ago [[Template:Hidan no Aria Nav]] was updated with a full volume and not by me. I'm always ready to help and teach, you just need to ask. Don't be shy, come on by. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 23:17, 31 December 2011 (CST)

I took a look at your code and made my own, it needs some fixes but should work, here [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 04:53, 3 January 2012 (CST)

:Accel World got promoted from Teaser to Full Project? Whohoo! If you want I can design one of my templates for you. It'll only take less than 2 hrs. Feel free to ask. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:38, 3 January 2012 (CST)

But lets get back to the subject at hand. The SAO Nav is ready to roll for months now. Shall we? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:40, 3 January 2012 (CST)

It's not like something bad will happen if it is applied. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 05:51, 3 January 2012 (CST)

I just updated Wikipedia's SAO page and it was really problematic that I had to go to go through the chapters the way it is now, in order to gather the facts. chapter a -> main page -> chapter b -> main page -> chapter c -> main page -> ... I'm telling you SAO Nav would have been faster. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 06:03, 3 January 2012 (CST)

== No chapter 17 in Volume 6 ==

I had bought Volume 6 recently and I would like to inform everyone that there is no Chapter 17 in Volume 6. Chapter 16 instead is the last chapter of this volume. Thank you.

[[User:Tomtkp|Tomtkp]]

That's how it was until someone changed it... I've put it back correctly and removed chapter 17.

[[User:Vaelis|Vaelis]] 02:27, 20 December 2011 (CST)

Ah, that was me, my bad.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 02:47, 20 December 2011 (CST)

==''' Vol 5 final chapter?''' ==

Is chapter 6 the final one or is it chapter 7? Volume 6 starts from chapter 7, so is it just posted twice in volume 5 and 6?

There is chapter 6 and 7 in volume 5. There is also a chapter 7 in volume 6, that I wanted to make into prologue, but our admin Vaelis changed it back to like the book when he fixed the above mistake. PS: Volume 5 chapter 6 will be a while unless you all beg Teh Ping to help with it. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 23:33, 28 December 2011 (CST)

Aaaaah I see. Thank you for clarifying and keep up the good work, it's a lot more fun to read the properly translated versions over the machine translation.

'''PLEASE TRANSLATE VOL. 5 CHAPTER 6 :D (or upload what's done of it); It feels very awkward to simply skip 2/3 of a chapter.
'''
== About Volume 6 Chapter 13 ==

Excerpted from a dialogue from Vol. 6 Chapter 13:

Kikuoka: “...That was really shocking. I thought that this little thing was the ALO support system «Navagiation Pixie»... but to gather so much information and make conclusions at such a short time. Little girl...are you interested in '''pu'''...no, do you want to work for the «Virtual Division»?”

I think it should be "la" or "ra" instead of "pu". The "ra" part is actually a foreshadowing to the next main arc, Alicization.

I didn't really understand what he meant to say so I left it as the translator had it. I think the "pu" might be part of "public"? What do you think the "ra" means? Anyway this should be in ch 13 Discussion. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:06, 29 December 2011 (CST)

Ok, I will follow your advice and post it under Ch. 13 discussion.

== Sword Art Online Vietnamese Translation ==

Hello, I'm Gingi from vnsharing. Would you mind if I translate Sword Art Online into Vietnamese based on your translation? Thank you for such a great novel and look forward to your reply.

wow...great, I don't think that there will be any problem but still wait for the reply from the project administrator/supervisor/translator(s). Better if you post this in the SAO BT forum for speedy reply. --[[User:Chancs|Chancs]] 04:41, 30 December 2011 (CST)

== volume 8 chapter 2 name ==

shouldn't it be called "Calibur" instead of "Caliber"?

just asking.              ..::[[User:Gradient|Gradient]]::.. 09:29, 4 January 2012 (CST)

That probably makes more sense, but "Caliber" seems to be an intentional English spelling. It is probably meant to be a pun. [[User:Thinklife|ThinkLife]] 10:53, 4 January 2012 (CST)

I originally had it as Calibur for the sword name we are familiar with, but I happen to glance at the last chapter while counting parts, and sigh. The author went and explained the name of the sword when Sinon asked about it. That's how it ended up as Caliber. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 18:40, 4 January 2012 (CST)

kind of like how Excalibur is spelled with a ur instead of er.--[[User:Zer0light|Zer0light]] 00:42, 5 January 2012 (CST)

== Asuna's Avatar - a mystery ==

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say that Asuna did NOT buy the NervGear she uses when playing SAO? If so, why is her avatar a perfect image of herself? Didn't the sellers only scan the people who actually BOUGHT the NervGear? Since Asuna just used the NervGear which wasn't hers... wouldn't that make her avatar look like someone else? @___@

Nah, you remember how Cline said when you start up you have to calibrate it to yourself? So when she put it on, she had to go through the calibration, thus it looks like her. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 01:14, 17 January 2012 (CST)

I doubt that NervGear has the scanning functionality. As a specialized gear, it wouldn't need scanning functionality for normal game play. Another manga with a similar virtual reality background [http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/yureka-r101 Yureka] has a similar avatar system and has a separate body scanning step as well. -[[User:Milki|milki]]

Well, my evidence was these lines:
"There are high density signal sensors in the NERvGear covering our whole head. So it can tell not only how our brains look, but our faces too..."
And
Calibration was where the NERvGear measured «how much you had to move your hand to reach your body». This was done to reproduce the sense of feel accurately within the game. So to say, it was almost as if the NERvGear had data about our exact figures saved inside itself. [[User:Syaoran|Syaoran]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (CST)

I suspect that, while the NERvGear would be able to scan the face to reproduce facial expressions to an extent, it does not do the same for the rest of the body. Calibration could probably be done by just measuring nerve signals - move your hand up towards you until you touch your body, and it would just recognize your hand/arm movement until you touch your body. -[[User:Milki|milki]]

Actually, currently there is a machine that can calculate your body muscle and fat composition by running electricity though your body and it is just as big as a regular scale. Moreover it is easy to obtain your height and leg length through the calibration process. By applying this data, it is pretty easy to build a body that is similar to your current body.

Another theories is to use ultrasonic (or supersonic) sound wave to obtain your body image. NERvGear can emit microwave strong enough to melt your brain so it is not entirely impossible.

My concern is how the did it obtain the character hair style since the NERvGear is like a bike helmet ^^!

This is only my speculation, anybody whom actually an expert in this field please feel free to correct--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 13:11, 17 January 2012 (CST)

The NERvGear is an mini MRI/NMR (for scanning, and pulsed magnetic stimulation for feedback) so it can scan the head and face. No idea how it gets eye and hair color though. It might be able to find out the lenght of the hair and how curly/strait it is by the hight percition scanning. To even work the NERvGear needs submilimeter acuracy so scanning the hair will be easy. (Anon)

For the hair style: I think hair style is something the players can change by themselves, like how one can pick up movable objects, I think combing would be allowed at least. The only difference is hair color which, from what I know from Aria in the Starless Night (SAO SS), is customizable via a monster drop item. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)

For the body, currently it is possible to take multiple photographs from different angles and compile them to make holograms, thus it should be possible to do the same here (especially since the tech is way advanced here). All one would need to make sure is that the height is given which could be used as a scale for the 3d photo. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:57, 17 January 2012 (CST)

The skin tone, eye color etc could also be derived from photos, no mystery at all. You can be assured since I am a Computer Science graduate. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 22:59, 17 January 2012 (CST)

Wasn't there a part where they said her bro bought the NGear and the game, but could not play it as he was overseas, so she was the first to play it? In other words, Asuna would be the first user of the game, and it would be calibrated to her. This assumes that the brother is not a beater, but even then, beta accounts were deleted or reset at the commence of the full game.

If we are discussing about how the body type, height, weight, sex etc was captured, well, they did say they had to key in certain particulars, and run their hands around their bodies. About the Hair styles and color, perhaps its more of what NG reads the mind as being the most comfortable with, through reading of the brainwaves of users in the first hour. Afterall, its not like all the characters in SAO have black hair, but multicolored, which i'm sure would not be true IRL... then again, this is aniverse after all... --[[User:Gabgrave|Gabgrave]] 23:23, 17 January 2012 (CST)

@Zero Yeah, you can use pictures to create a 3D object but the problem is how to take them ^^! unless you have a mirror as big as you, otherwise, it impossible to take those pictures yourself.--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 01:13, 18 January 2012 (CST)

Please note that SAO occurs in a more advanced world. Furthermore I said that height would be given (ie: entered as a perimeter) so that it can be used as a scale. Thus resizing the image would be possible. Nowadays there are graphic plugins for GIMP and Photoshop that allow resizing (blowing up of pictures, or more simply, making them bigger) without loss of quality. In an advanced world it would be a better process and more commonly used (ie: common knowledge). The main point here is that what we consider specialized knowledge would be common in the setting of SAO. After all, ''virtual reality has become real'' in the setting. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 03:09, 18 January 2012 (CST)

Yeah all these question can be answered that "they can do it in the future" then it all solved, no need for discussion O_O .--[[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]] 04:10, 18 January 2012 (CST)

Talk:Sword Art Online

2012-01-18T07:13:35Z

Hayate-sama: /* Asuna's Avatar - a mystery */

Talk:Sword Art Online

2012-01-17T19:12:00Z

Hayate-sama: /* Asuna's Avatar - a mystery */

Talk:Hidan no Aria:Volume8 Chapter1

2011-06-24T18:31:52Z

Hayate-sama: /* Swear words */

==Swear words==

Umm. About the word ''F*%#''... if the Japanese word used does not exactly mean the same thing... Can we use "Damn" or "Shit" instead. Especially if the word used is ''Kuso'' or ''Chikusho''. The F-word is a little too extreme unless the Japanese word used means exactly that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:04, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

So...What would be the Japanese equivalent to 'fuck'...It's in the copyright disclaimer anyways. It may be true that there are some younger audiences reading this novel, but Kinji says it about three times a volume, and contrast is good for effect. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 12:23, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

The Japanese exact equivalent to the f-word would be "[http://www.youswear.com/index.asp?language=Japanese Fakku!]". But with the others there are ''other'' equivalent words as well. This is where the person's personality comes in. Is Kinji a course and uncouth youth? Does he use curse words in each and every sentence that comes out of his mouth, regardless of who he talks with? No, no and definitely no. His personality does not fit with that word. Hence, "Damn" or "Shit" is a better choice. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:18, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

Please don't tell me what is a better choice. Anyone who might be pressured into a situation where they think they are going to die might let off a few choice expletives. At any rate, you act as if fuck and shit are on completely different levels of ribald when in fact, they are used in exactly the same way, an exclamation/an insult/an expletive. Telling someone that they're a little fuck isn't any better than telling them that they're a little shit. I am not going to change how I translate because you personally have a problem with the word. I normally don't swear. However, when I do, do I care whether I say fuck or shit? No, I do not. It is exactly the same thing in my mind, an expletive. Nobody weighs the situation and thinks: "Hmm, is this situation appropriate to say fuck in or should I be conservative and say shit?" As for character, if you asked me, I think that Kinji is a cynical bastard that thinks nothing of swearing and shooting at people to save his own life. The guy headbutted his friend in the face for trying to take a letter from him. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 17:59, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

F-Ranked words are worse than other insults like Shit, Damn, God Damn, etc (By F-Ranked words I mean words like F*%#, Mo$%^& F*%#er, Si$%^& F*%#er, etc). I must humbly say that while words like ''"kuso"'' and ''"chikuso"'' may mean either "shit" or "F*%#" but there are clear levels of insults and "F*%#" is a much higher insult than "shit". Even in TV shows they don't censor the word "shit" but they do censor any and all F-Ranked words. What does this tell you? That the levels are completely different. Kinji is a respectable butei. Therefore saying "Shit" fits with his character more than saying "F*%#" so many times in the space of a few minutes. On the other hand if the Light Novel actually uses the the Japanese word that clearly translates to an F-Ranked word then I would say to use that word freely (See the external link above). ''Please'', try to understand that I am not saying this out of spite. I am doing this to improve the quality of the translation. So basically everything comes down to two questions: Is the clear cut Japanese word for F*%# being used? If no then, does using F*%# so many times in the space fit with Kinji's character? From my point of view he is just a guy who has had a bad experience with girls, gets embarrassed so covers it up by head butting his friend whom he has a good enough relationship to do so, shoots people but adheres to the rule of not killing,thus honorable. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 20:53, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

All I see here is you nitpicking at some relatively unimportant factor, and like all your other nitpicking, it makes me grandly annoyed and angry. It is like you see one branch rotting on a tree in a forest and you tell me to replant the tree. In truth, it does not take so much effort to change four letters, yet the most tiny, insignificant, useless and unimportant things you choose to try and change. Why? This is obviously not because you think that Kinji is portrayed as out of character. I do not think that anyone (besides you,) truly believes that Kinji is the type of person who would never say 'fuck' even if he is surrounded by people who can kill him at any moment. You obviously just have some personal discomfort with the word and as such, you want to avoid it. I have a suggestion in those cases, stick to picture books. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 23:39, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

I did some research. It turns out that insults are divided into many categories: sexual, scatological (shit, and some would include ass(butt) as a scatological curse, not a sexual one), blasphemous, etc. Blasphemous insults take the number 1 position (no surprises there). But in English, the insulting words that have a sexual nature come in second. The reason for this is that Christianity regards Lust as one of the seven sins and this crossed over to the English language. Indeed many of the English words have their roots in Latin which is the native language of the Bible. Because of this crossing over, the majority of the English speakers generally regard sexual insults to be worse than others (some slightly others greatly), even if they have become widely used. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:36, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

Furthermore, because English is not my mother tongue (although I am sadly more accomplished in it than my own mother tongue), I consulted with a native English speaker here in the UK (I'm studying here) and asked him if he were to be given a choice between "F*%#" and "shit" then which would he consider to be worse? He replied that he used both frequently but if he were to say then "F*%#" would be worse. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:36, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

And yes you are absolutely right. I do have a personal discomfort with the word "F*%#". My parents taught me to not exceed certain limits when speaking. But even so, ''yes even so,'' I said that if the japanese word for it was actually used, then I would have no problem (Author's choice supersedes my wishes). I do understand your point. I have looked at the [http://www.youswear.com/index.asp?language=Japanese Japanese curse list] it says that "kuso" and "chikuso" can be translated to both. But since you think this is insignificant then it shouldn't really matter if "shit" is used instead. So I hereby humbly ask that "shit" be used. Since it makes no difference to you, it should be fine right? I beg and implore you not to trod over it without considering what I have said properly. To say that I am telling you to replant the tree here would mean telling you to erase everything you have done. I do not want that. Anyone can easily use the search and replace function to make the switches. It's more like grafting roses from different plants onto a single plant to produce a rose bush that blooms many different colored roses. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 01:36, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

I did not even read your paragraphs on text. I am just fucking tired about having to fucking argue about the most fucking retarded (?) things about my translation. The word 'fuck' will never be used again, because Kinji curses in no other manner. I am going to take a break from translating. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 08:53, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

I never thought of Talks as arguments. But the fact that you are just gonna ignore all my research and then blame it on me like this is not very nice. And you declaring that you are going to take a break now like this makes it seem like you're saying it's my fault. I will not agree to anyone blaming me for this. I did not do anything wrong. However thank you for saying that you will never use the word "F*%#" ever again even if you think Kinji curses in no other way. From the bottom of my heart I thank you for that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:24, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

I could not care less if you think it is not very nice. The fact remains that you are the sole reason I do not want to translate. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 10:04, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

So... I should keep my ideas just to myself simply because you might not find them to your liking? I'm sorry but that would be violating my right to free speech. No matter what, I have done no wrong. It is your decision to translate or not. But if you love doing it then no matter what I say, it should have no effect on it. Well the initial problem has been resolved, so I'll stop right here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 10:59, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

I did not say to stop sharing ideas. I just said that your ideas piss me off. I am in no position to stop you. Neither do I ever want to see anything you write ever again. It is a personal opinion, and like all things personal, it can be ignored. It is also my personal choice whether or not I translate for people like you. It is not as if I am translating for a publisher, in which case I would readily change my word choice to be more fitting for the target age group, but that is not it. In fact, I would not even have half the problem with this if you had just changed it without even telling me. I would just click 'diff' see the change, and not care. But then, you have to point out why you are right and why I am wrong and the entire hierarchy of expletives? I will tell this, your word is not law. You have no right to tell me I am wrong and I should use a different word because of what? Kinji's character? Do not make up some half-assed excuses because of your own personal preference, that is what irritates me the most. I do not think you even half-comprehend how much you irritate me. Were I given the choice, I would prefer for you to just stay the fuck away from Hidan no Aria and go edit something else. However, I do not have that liberty, very unfortunately. It is rare for me to hate someone on the internet like this, but the utmost sincerity in all your actions suggests to me that you are the same in real life. Well, since you seem to be very familiar with Japanese to the extent where you can tell me what curse words are appropriate, maybe you should just translate this yourself. If you do so, then I will not make pointless suggestions that do nothing but infuriate. Of course, I may do it just so you know how it feels when you spend hours a day doing something and someone tells you you are doing it wrong. What the fuck do you get out of this? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU FUCKING WANT FROM ME. Please, just leave me the fuck alone and go edit somewhere else. ニコニコ. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 11:43, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

I do not hate you. I have never hated you. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:45, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

Fuck is okay. end of discussion [[User:Xenocross|Xenocross]] 12:47, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

I'm sorry but I cannot agree that that word is okay unless the Light Novel uses the exact japanese word for it. Please see [http://www.youswear.com/index.asp?language=Japanese this]. I have a right to speak my mind here. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:52, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

For me, I feel it's better than using damn or shit or other words. I feel that way when reading. Other words dont convey Kinji's emotion better. [[User:Xenocross|Xenocross]] 12:58, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

I do understand your feelings. Like you said the f-word would make the point harder. But I do not believe that harder is always better. That is why I proposed the change. The f-word is indeed considered more taboo. Translating from one language to another is always difficult because of all the equivalences. However, being a fluent English speaker. I cannot say that the f-word would match with Kinji's personality at all except in rare cases. Saying it multiple times in the space of one or two minutes is not okay. In such cases "shit" or "damn" is better suited to him. I'm saying that if the f-word is sparingly used then it is fine but using it multiple times like this just goes into a weird direction. Am I wrong? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:10, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

I am saying that I loathe you. "Chikusho: shit, fuck Chikusho: This is the strongest word in Japanese. You might translate it as "Fuck!" Literally means...Beast Many of these words translate like English obscenities. They're not, though. The Japanese aren't that shocked by feces, and words like chikusho have the strength of English words like "fuck," not the connotations." - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 13:01, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

:Hm if "Beast" is their strongest word why not just use it then? --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 18:32, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

:Beast is not an expletive in English, so it does not make sense. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 21:44, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

Well I can not think that way. Japanese enforce politeness as a part of their culture (Yamato Nadeshiko) and daily life (office etiquette). Even if Chikusho is the worst thing that can be said in japanese I think we should honor their politeness and choose "shit" instead. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:13, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

I mean their language even separates polite and non-polite speech. That doesn't happen unless the people are generally more oriented towards politeness. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:16, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

I do not care what you think. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 13:32, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

Therein lies the problem. Yoake, we are a team. Supervisors, Translators and Editors all work together. Do not reject me completely. Use me. As I have learned from you, why not learn from me? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 13:55, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

The only problem is that you are here. The sooner you get out of my sight, the sooner all problems are solved. We are not a team. The only thing I have seen you do is make useless references and change punctuation marks to reduce page size. Only when the translation goes against your personal liking do you ever change it. You are completely, utterly useless. The only person I acknowledge as part of a team are the translators and editors that actually do their job. Even anonymous contributors are more helpful than you. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 14:06, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

Thank you for being honest with me. I truly do respect your opinion of me. Yes it is true. All I have done is reduce the page size used, added references and changed a few things. My grasp over the Japanese language is only good in oral form and because of this I am little good in the actual translation (It also doesn't help that I cant get my hands on the Light Novels). You are absolutely right. I am useless. But you know, in both written and oral English, my skills are top notch (and that is why I say that Kinji's character is not that type). I discuss stuff because I do want to be helpful to you guys. You are free to hate me if you wish. But you have no right to throw me out of anywhere. Nor do I believe I have actually done anything to deserve it. At the very least I have not insulted you in any way. I merely showed you a different way to do things. Please calm down. I have never meant you any offense. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:21, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

Off topic. End of discussion, 「チクショ」　will be translated as 'fuck', 「クソ」 will be translated as 'shit'. I will continue translating as soon as you say that you will never bother me with anything so insignificant ever again. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 14:26, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

Very well. As you said a few quotes ago, it wouldn't have blown out of proportion if I had changed things without discussing it ''Quote: In fact, I would not even have half the problem with this if you had just changed it without even telling me. I would just click 'diff' see the change, and not care. But then, you have to point out why you are right and why I am wrong and the entire hierarchy of expletives? I will tell this, your word is not law. 11:43, 22 June 2011 (UCT)'' The real reason I started this was to make sure that the word used in the LN was or not Fakku! which would have exactly translated into the f-word. If then I had changed it I would have been wrong. It seems it blew out of proportion. That is partially my fault. I will henceforth take care to never again bother you with it. I humbly apologize and beseech you to continue with your translation for the sake of the readers. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 14:37, 22 June 2011 (UCT)

"And that is why Kinji's character is not the type" He's like any normal highschool kid, not freaking Shirayuki...I daresay even you will be going fuck when surrounded on all sides by superhumans and demons out to kill you. Furthermore, unless you are Yakuza, a delinquent or some kind of DQN, the average Japanese give the same meaning for fuck in the appropriate situations for common swear words like kuso. So I absolutely do not see the problem at all.

And why the hell are you so hung up with the word fakku anyway? It's an english language import...It's not even the actual Japanese term for it.

About imports: All languages are descended from another or take things from another. Examples: English takes many words of Latin, French, Old Norse, etc languages. Urdu is a combination of Hindi, Persian and Arabic with Arabic writing system. Japanese borrows many words as well as the writing system of Chinese which does so from the Sintic language which in turn does so from Sino-Tibetan languages. To say that already borrowed words or imports are not part of the language is to deny this very fact. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:35, 23 June 2011 (UCT)

There's a major difference between something that's been integrated into language over millenia and something that is essentially urban slang taken direct from its parent language. It's like only the word fuck offends you whereas more explicit stuff like kintama or manko or more insulting things like ama don't. It smacks of double standards stemming from your unfamilarity with Japanese swear words and the degree of severity they attach to sexual insults which is not that great in their language as english and thus other more common words fill that void.

No actually that's not true anymore. Oxford Dictionary has begun to incorporate slang and borrowed words into it's list of english words. I think you do know what [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Dictionary Oxford Dictionary] is don't you? The most widely recognized English dictionary of our time. Actually I've said before that insults of a sexual nature are the ones that offend. Truthfully, I find Yoake's translations to be some of the best out there. Probably the reason why I find so few errors. I found a small problem so I thought I might discuss it. I wanted to help but it kinda backfired. Anyway I've already apologized so can we drop this. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:17, 23 June 2011 (UCT)

I apologize for any and all trouble I caused. I shall try to ensure such a discussion does not happen again. Now can we please stop before something worse gets threatened. But no. I do not like using that term. It just feels like my mouth just got filled with the worst tasting slime ever. But then again that is my opinion, just as it being fine is your opinion. I would say shit even in the worst circumstances, really. But then again that is me. Since now the rate of translation can be affected if I actually tried to explain I will not. I beseech you not to continue this, since I have the fault of seriously pondering and trying to answer any questions put to me, regardless of others intent (sarcasm or otherwise). It is a fault I will henceforth seriously work on. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:35, 23 June 2011 (UCT)

Could those whom involved please delete these this whole page are pretty worthless in my opinion as a reader

==EU vs IU==
EU vs IU, indeed EU was used before in translations of this novel, but after some research editors concluded that IU is correct term, the name IU comes from historical signature of both japanese and german submarines, japanese submarines were marked for example as : "I-31" while german were marked with "U-12" (so called I-boats, and famous U-boats), hence there's a historical reason why its IU not EU. --[[User:Krytyk|Krytyk]] 12:40, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

Yes that is completely true. EU was translated as such solely based upon its pronunciation, which the readers may or may not care about. Either way, it is up to the editors, I will just translate it the way I am told to translate it. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 12:53, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

Why not simply like Yi.U? [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] 13:12, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

There's no Yi pronunciation in Japanese. There's no point in making it Chinese, we should make it have a Japanese pronunciation or a English pronunciation. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 13:33, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

I don't know why but i sense irony from kira's post, the point is, that japanese submarines had BIG ROMAN LETTER "I" along with series number on the submarines body painted on. It's a submarine's codename, it's like translating james bond's 007 to 008 >.>. --[[User:Krytyk|Krytyk]] 13:47, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

About it being a roman character, I did not know that. I thought that they were just designated as 伊－２３ or イ-23 or something. Well, I am going to continue to not offer an opinion. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 14:07, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

Opinion exchanging is okaay, don't drop out and continue to state your point in discussion, that's what the "talk" is here for. I was adamant that it was EU before i had the same discussion with some other wiki user about it and changed my point of view afterwards ;). Take care of me in future;; --[[User:Krytyk|Krytyk]] 14:56, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

You misunderstand, I said that because I said this earlier: "Either way, it is up to the editors, I will just translate it the way I am told to translate it." Truthfully, I do not really care, it is the readers that will benefit from this translation after all, not me. - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 16:46, 21 June 2011 (UCT)

Sword Art Online

2011-06-10T16:29:59Z

Hayate-sama: /* Volume 5 - Phantom Bullet */

[[Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_cover.jpg|thumb|Volume 1 Cover]]
Sword Art Online (ソードアート・オンライン) is a light novel series written by Reki Kawahara and illustrated by Abec. The series has currently 7 volumes.

The Sword Art Online series is also available in the following languages:
*[[Sword_Art_Online_~Deutsche_Version~|Deutsch (German)]]
*[[Sword_Art_Online_PL|Polski (Polish)]]
*[[Sword_Art_Online_~Russian_Version~|Русский (Russian)]]
*[[Sword_Art_Online_Bahasa_Indonesia|Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian)]]
*[[Sword_Art_Online_~Italian_Version~|Italiano (Italian)]]

==Story Synopsis==
Escape was impossible until it was cleared; a game over would mean an actual "death"―. 
Without knowing the "truth" of the mysterious next generation MMO, 'Sword Art Online(SAO)', approximately ten thousand users logged in together, opening the curtains to this cruel death battle. 
Participating alone in SAO, protagonist Kirito had promptly accepted the "truth" of this MMO. 
And in the game world, a gigantic floating castle named 'Aincrad', he distinguished himself as a solo player. 
Aiming to clear the game by reaching the highest floor, Kirito riskily continued alone. 
Because of a pushy invitation from a female warrior and rapier expert, Asuna, he teamed up with her. 
That encounter brought about an opportunity to call out to the fated Kirito―. 

The legendary novel made an appearance with browsing numbers exceeding 6.5 million page views recorded at the personal website.

==Tentative Timeline==
[[SAO_Timeline|Spoiler warning]]

== Translation ==

=== [[Sword Art Online:Registration Page|Registration]] ===

Those who wish to contribute are asked to first notify a supervisor beforehand.

'''Translators are asked to [[Sword Art Online:Registration Page|register]] which chapters they're working on'''

===Format Standards===
'''Every Chapter (after editing) must conform to the general format guidelines.'''
*[[Format_guideline|General Format/Style Guideline]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Names and Terminology Guideline|Project specific Guidelines: Names and Terminology]]

== Updates ==

*June 4, 2011 - Volume 5 - Chapter 2 completed
*May 29, 2011 - Volume 5 - Chapter 1 completed
*May 25, 2011 - Volume 7 - Chapter 2 completed
*May 24, 2011 - Volume 7 - Prologue and Chapter 1 completed
*May 23, 2011 - Volume 4 - Complete
*May 17, 2011 - Volume 2 - Morning Dew Girl - Part 2 completed, Volume 4 - Chapter 8 completed.
*May 16, 2011 - Volume 4 - Chapter 8 (Part 1 and 2) completed.
*May 8, 2011 - Volume 4 - Chapter 7 completed.
*May 2, 2011 - Volume 4 - Chapter 6 completed.
*April 29, 2011 - Volume 4 - Chapter 5 completed.

Older updates can be found on the [[Sword Art Online:Updates|Sword Art Online Updates page]].

==The ''Sword Art Online'' series by Reki Kawahara==

===Volume 1 - Aincrad ([[Sword Art Online:Volume 1|Full Text]])===
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*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Prologue|Prologue]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|Chapter 1]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 2|Chapter 2]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 4|Chapter 4]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 5|Chapter 5]]
|-
|}
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*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 6|Chapter 6]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 7|Chapter 7]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 8|Chapter 8]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 9|Chapter 9]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 10|Chapter 10]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 11|Chapter 11]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 12|Chapter 12]]
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" width="150" ; style="float:left"
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*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 13|Chapter 13]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 14|Chapter 14]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 15|Chapter 15]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 16|Chapter 16]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 16.5 Warning|Chapter 16.5]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 17|Chapter 17]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 18|Chapter 18]]
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" width="150"
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*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 19|Chapter 19]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 20|Chapter 20]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 21|Chapter 21]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 22|Chapter 22]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 23|Chapter 23]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 24|Chapter 24]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 25|Chapter 25]]
|-
|}

*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Author Notes|Author's Notes]]

===Volume 2 - Aincrad ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Prologue|Prologue]]
*The Black Swordsman (Aincrad 35th Floor, February 2024)
**[[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 1 Part 1|Part 1]]
**[[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 1 Part 2|Part 2]]
**[[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 1 Part 3|Part 3]]
*Warmth of the Heart (Aincrad 48th Floor, June 2024)
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_2_Part_1|Part 1]]
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_2_Part_2|Part 2]]
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_2_Part_3|Part 3]] (~29%)[10/34 pgs]
**Part 4
*Morning Dew Girl (Aincrad 22th Floor, October 2024)
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_3_Part_1|Part 1]]
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_3_Part_2|Part 2]]
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_3_Part_3|Part 3]] (25%)
**Part 4
*Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_4_Part 1|Part 1]] (70%)
**Part 2
**Part 3
**Part 4

*[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Author's_Notes|Author's Notes]]

===Side Story #5 - A Murder Case in the Area ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume SS Chapter 1|Chapter 1]]
*Chapter 2
*Chapter 3
*Chapter 4

===Volume 3 - Fairy Dance ([[Sword Art Online:Volume 3|Full Text]]) ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Prologue|Prologue]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Chapter 1|Chapter 1]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Chapter 2|Chapter 2]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Chapter 4|Chapter 4]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Author's Notes|Author's Notes]]

===Volume 4 - Fairy Dance ([[Sword Art Online:Volume 4|Full Text]]) ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Prologue|Prologue]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Chapter 5|Chapter 5]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Chapter 6|Chapter 6]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Chapter 7|Chapter 7]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Chapter 8|Chapter 8]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Chapter 9|Chapter 9]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Author's Notes|Author's Notes]]

===Volume 5 - Phantom Bullet ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Prologue|Prologue]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Chapter 1|Chapter 1]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Chapter 2|Chapter 2]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]<----(Still not done guys, please be patient and dont try to kill the translator, we still need him alive-----> can we kill him when everything is done ?)
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Chapter 4|Chapter 4]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Chapter 5|Chapter 5]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Chapter 6|Chapter 6]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Chapter 7|Chapter 7]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Author's Notes|Author's Notes]]

===Volume 6 - Phantom Bullet ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 6 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*Prologue
*Chapter 7
*Chapter 8
*Chapter 9
*Chapter 10
*Chapter 11
*Chapter 12
*Chapter 13
*Chapter 14
*Chapter 15
*Chapter 16
*Author's Notes

===Calibur SS===


===Volume 7 - Mother's Rosario ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 7 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 7 Prologue|Prologue]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 7 Chapter 1|Chapter 1]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 7 Chapter 2|Chapter 2]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 7 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]] (~66.9%)
*Chapter 4
*Chapter 5
*Chapter 6
*Chapter 7
*Chapter 8
*Chapter 9
*Chapter 10
*Chapter 11
*Chapter 12
*Author's Notes

===Alicization Arc===
*[[Sword Art Online:Alicization Chapter 1|Chapter 1]]


== Project Staff ==
*Project Administrator: [[user:Vaelis|Vaelis]]
*Project Supervisor: [[user:Sharramon|Sharramon]]

=== Translators ===
'''ACTIVE'''
:*[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]]
:*[[User:Black Cats of The Full Moon|Black Cats of the Full Moon]]
:*[[User:Tap|Tap]]
:*[[user:Thinklife|Thinklife]]
:*[[User:Aiko|Aiko]]
:*[[User:Thunder|Thunder]]

'''RETIRED'''
:*[[user:Sharramon|Sharramon]]

'''M.I.A.'''
:*[[User:BakaSama|BakaSama]]

=== Editors ===
:*[[user:Aorii|Aorii]]
:*[[User:Black Cats of The Full Moon|Black Cats of the Full Moon]]
:*[[user:Saorian|Saorian]]
:*[[user:Thinklife|Thinklife]]
:*[[user:DrFaust|DrFaust]]

==Series Overview==
* Volume 1 - Aincrad (April 2009) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-867760-8</nowiki>
* Volume 2 - Aincrad (August 2009) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-867935-0</nowiki>
* Volume 3 - Fairy Dance (December 2009) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-868193-3</nowiki>
* Volume 4 - Fairy Dance (April 2010) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-868452-1</nowiki>
* Volume 5 - Phantom Bullet (August 2010) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-868763-8</nowiki>
* Volume 6 - Phantom Bullet (December 2010) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-870132-7</nowiki>
* Volume 7 - Mother's Rosario (April 2011) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-870431-1</nowiki>

User talk:Hayate-sama

2011-05-02T14:24:51Z

Hayate-sama:

Hey, Hayatesama, Can you create a new name list for me? the first one you made only covered volume 1-4

Sure, I will make a new name list for the phantom bullet arc but you have to wait till Thursdays or Friday.However you could just go
to the [http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%88%80%E5%8A%8D%E7%A5%9E%E5%9F%9F%20 Chinese wiki] it have all the name there with both Japanese character and Chinese Character (but no English) [[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]]

User talk:Hayate-sama

2011-05-02T14:22:48Z

Hayate-sama:

Hey, Hayatesama, Can you create a new name list for me? the first one you made only covered volume 1-4

Hey, Hayatesama, Can you create a new name list for me? the first one you made only covered volume 1-4

Sure, I will make a new name list for the phantom bullet arc but you have to wait till Thursdays or Friday.However you could just go
to the [http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%88%80%E5%8A%8D%E7%A5%9E%E5%9F%9F%20 Chinese wiki] it have all the name there with both Japanese character and Chinese Character (but no English)

Sword Art Online

2011-04-17T08:24:49Z

Hayate-sama: /* Volume 3 - Fairy Dance */

[[Image:Sword_Art_Online_Vol_01_cover.jpg|thumb|Volume 1 Cover]]
Sword Art Online (ソードアート・オンライン) is a light novel series written by Reki Kawahara and illustrated by Abec. The series has currently 7 volumes.

The Sword Art Online series is also available in the following languages:
*[[Sword_Art_Online_PL|Polski (Polish)]]
*[[Sword_Art_Online_~Russian_Version~|Русский (Russian)]]
*[[Sword_Art_Online_Bahasa_Indonesia|Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian)]]
*[[Sword_Art_Online_~Italian_Version~|Italiano (Italian)]]

==Story Synopsis==
Escape was impossible until it was cleared; a game over would mean an actual "death"―. 
Without knowing the "truth" of the mysterious next generation MMO, 'Sword Art Online(SAO)', approximately ten thousand users logged in together, opening the curtains to this cruel death battle. 
Participating alone in SAO, protagonist Kirito had promptly accepted the "truth" of this MMO. 
And in the game world, a gigantic floating castle named 'Aincrad', he distinguished himself as a solo player. 
Aiming to clear the game by reaching the highest floor, Kirito riskily continued alone. 
Because of a pushy invitation from a female warrior and rapier expert, Asuna, he teamed up with her. 
That encounter brought about an opportunity to call out to the fated Kirito―. 

The legendary novel made an appearance with browsing numbers exceeding 6.5 million page views recorded at the personal website.

== Translation ==

=== [[Sword Art Online:Registration Page|Registration]] ===

Those who wish to contribute are asked to first notify a supervisor beforehand.

'''Translators are asked to [[Sword Art Online:Registration Page|register]] which chapters they're working on'''

===Format Standards===
'''Every Chapter (after editing) must conform to the general format guidelines.'''
*[[Format_guideline|General Format/Style Guideline]]

== Updates ==
*April 12, 2011 - Volume 3 - Chapter 3 completed.
*April 6, 2011 - Volume 3 - Chapter 2 completed.
*April 3, 2011 - Volume 3 - Chapter 1 completed.
*December 5, 2010 - Volume 2 Warmth of the Heart - Part 2 completed.
*October 25, 2010 - Volume 2 Warmth of the Heart - Part 1 completed.

Older updates can be found on the [[Sword Art Online:Updates|Sword Art Online Updates page]].

==The ''Sword Art Online'' series by Reki Kawahara==

===Volume 1 - Aincrad ([[Sword Art Online:Volume 1|Full Text]])===
{| class="wikitable" width="150" ; style="float:left"
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*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Prologue|Prologue]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 1|Chapter 1]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 2|Chapter 2]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 4|Chapter 4]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 5|Chapter 5]]
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" width="150" ; style="float:left"
|
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 6|Chapter 6]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 7|Chapter 7]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 8|Chapter 8]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 9|Chapter 9]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 10|Chapter 10]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 11|Chapter 11]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 12|Chapter 12]]
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" width="150" ; style="float:left"
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*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 13|Chapter 13]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 14|Chapter 14]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 15|Chapter 15]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 16|Chapter 16]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 16.5 Warning|Chapter 16.5]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 17|Chapter 17]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 18|Chapter 18]]
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable" width="150"
|
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 19|Chapter 19]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 20|Chapter 20]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 21|Chapter 21]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 22|Chapter 22]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 23|Chapter 23]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 24|Chapter 24]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Chapter 25|Chapter 25]]
|-
|}

*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 1 Author Notes|Author's Notes]]

===Volume 2 - Aincrad ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Prologue|Prologue]]
*The Black Swordsman (Aincrad 35th Floor, February 2024)
**[[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 1 Part 1|Part 1]]
**[[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 1 Part 2|Part 2]]
**[[Sword Art Online:Volume 2 Chapter 1 Part 3|Part 3]]
*Warmth of the Heart (Aincrad 48th Floor, June 2024)
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_2_Part_1|Part 1]]
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_2_Part_2|Part 2]]
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_2_Part_3|Part 3]] (~29%)[10/34 pgs]
**Part 4
*Morning Dew Girl (Aincrad 22th Floor, October 2024)
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_3_Part_1|Part 1]] (76%)
**Part 2
**Part 3
**Part 4
*Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer (Aincrad 46th Floor, December 2023)
**[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Chapter_4_Part 1|Part 1]] (?more? %)
**Part 2
**Part 3
**Part 4

*[[Sword_Art_Online:Volume_2_Author's_Notes|Author's Notes]]

===Volume SS - Laughing Coffin Guild Arc ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume SS Chapter 1|Chapter 1]]
*Chapter 2
*Chapter 3
*Chapter 4

===Volume 3 - Fairy Dance ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Prologue|Prologue]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Chapter 1|Chapter 1]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Chapter 2|Chapter 2]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Chapter 3|Chapter 3]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Chapter 4|Chapter 4]] (0%)
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 3 Author's Notes|Author's Notes]]

===Volume 4 - Fairy Dance ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Prologue|Prologue]]
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 4 Chapter 5|Chapter 5]] (? %)
*Chapter 6
*Chapter 7
*Chapter 8
*Chapter 9

===Volume 5 - Phantom Bullet ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 5 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*Prologue
*Chapter 1
*Chapter 2
*Chapter 3
*Chapter 4
*Chapter 5
*Chapter 6
*Chapter 7
*Author's Notes

===Volume 6 - Phantom Bullet ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 6 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*Prologue
*Chapter 7
*Chapter 8
*Chapter 9
*Chapter 10
*Chapter 11
*Chapter 12
*Chapter 13
*Chapter 14
*Chapter 15
*Chapter 16
*Author's Notes

===Volume 7 - Mother's Rosary ===
*[[Sword Art Online:Volume 7 Illustrations|Novel Illustrations]]
*Prologue
*Chapter 1
*Chapter 2
*Chapter 3
*Chapter 4
*Chapter 5
*Chapter 6
*Chapter 7
*Chapter 8
*Chapter 9
*Chapter 10
*Chapter 11
*Chapter 12
*Author's Notes

== Project Staff ==
*Project Administrator: [[user:Vaelis|Vaelis]]
*Project Supervisor: [[user:Sharramon|Sharramon]]

=== Translators ===
:*[[user:Sharramon|Sharramon]] (retired)
:*[[User:BakaSama|BakaSama]]
:*[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]]
:*[[User:Black Cats of The Full Moon|Black Cats of the Full Moon]]
:*[[User:Tap|Tap]]
:*[[user:Thinklife|Thinklife]]

=== Editors ===
:*[[user:Aorii|Aorii]]
:*[[User:Black Cats of The Full Moon|Black Cats of the Full Moon]]
:*[[user:Saorian|Saorian]]
:*[[user:Thinklife|Thinklife]]

==Series Overview==
* Volume 1 - Aincrad (April 2009) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-867760-8</nowiki>
* Volume 2 - Aincrad (August 2009) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-867935-0</nowiki>
* Volume 3 - Fairy Dance (December 2009) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-868193-3</nowiki>
* Volume 4 - Fairy Dance (April 2010) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-868452-1</nowiki>
* Volume 5 - Phantom Bullet (August 2010) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-868763-8</nowiki>
* Volume 6 - Phantom Bullet (December 2010) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-870132-7</nowiki>
* Volume 7 - Mother's Rosary (April 2011) - <nowiki>ISBN 978-4-04-870431-1</nowiki>

Sword Art Online

2011-04-13T11:11:32Z

Hayate-sama:

User:Black Cats of The Full Moon

2011-04-09T15:30:52Z

Hayate-sama:

Black Cats of The Full Moon
-Sword Art Online novel translation project-
Current Members:

Translator: desodus, GapTinMana

Proofreader: [[User:Kira0802|Kira0802]], [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]]

Editors: drksmkpunchr, patchkn, [[User:darn2k|darn2k]]

Collaborators: [[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]], Oxe2011, [[User:rnn|rnn]], Izumi.Konata Aka [[User:Hiyono|Hiyono]]

Current status:

Volume 3 Chapter 1: Proofread complete.

Volume 3 Chapter 2: Proofread 55%. Editor should not try to edit this before it has been proofread unless you have read the original/translted novel.

Volume 3 Chapter 3: Translating + Editing + Proofreading. It will be uploaded when the proofreading is done.

Meeting Place:
http://forums.mangafox.com/threads/238831-Light-Novel-Discussion/

If there is anybody willing to help, go to the link above and just give us a shout!

User:Black Cats of The Full Moon

2011-04-09T15:06:29Z

Hayate-sama:

Black Cats of The Full Moon
-Sword Art Online novel translation project-
Current Members:

Translator: desodus, GapTinMana

Proofreader: [[User:Kira0802|Kira0802]], [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]]

Editors: drksmkpunchr, patchkn, [[User:darn2k|darn2k]]

Collaborators: [[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]], Oxe2011, [[User:rnn|rnn]], Izumi.Konata Aka [[User:Hiyono|Hiyono]]

Current status:

Volume 3 Chapter 1: Proofread complete.

Volume 3 Chapter 2: Proofread 55%. Editor should not try to edit this before it has been proofread unless you have read the novel.

Volume 3 Chapter 3: Translating + Editing + Proofreading. It will be uploaded when the proofreading is done.

Meeting Place:
http://forums.mangafox.com/threads/238831-Light-Novel-Discussion/

If there is anybody willing to help, go to the link above and just give us a shout!

User:Black Cats of The Full Moon

2011-04-09T15:05:36Z

Hayate-sama:

Black Cats of The Full Moon
-Sword Art Online novel translation project-
Current Members:

Translator: desodus, GapTinMana

Proofreader: [[User:Kira0802|Kira0802]], [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]]

Editors: drksmkpunchr, patchkn, [[User:darn2k|darn2k]]

Collaborators: [[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]], Oxe2011, [[User:rnn|rnn]], Izumi.Konata Aka [[User:Hiyono|Hiyono]]

Current status:

Volume 3 Chapter 1: Proofread complete.
Volume 3 Chapter 2: Proofread 55%. Editor should not try to edit this before it has been proofread unless you have read the novel.
Volume 3 Chapter 3: Translating + Editing + Proofreading. It will be uploaded when the proofreading is done.

Meeting Place:
http://forums.mangafox.com/threads/238831-Light-Novel-Discussion/

If there is anybody willing to help, go to the link above and just give us a shout!

User:Black Cats of The Full Moon

2011-04-09T14:56:10Z

Hayate-sama:

Black Cats of The Full Moon
-Sword Art Online novel translation project-
Current Members:

Translator: desodus, GapTinMana

Proofreader: [[User:Kira0802|Kira0802]], [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]]

Editors: drksmkpunchr, patchkn, [[User:darn2k|darn2k]]

Collaborators: [[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]], Oxe2011, [[User:rnn|rnn]], Izumi.Konata Aka [[User:Hiyono|Hiyono]]

Our Current Work:

Translating: Vol 3 ch 3 & vol 4 last chapter/

Editing: Vol 3 ch 2

Meeting Place:
http://forums.mangafox.com/threads/238831-Light-Novel-Discussion/

If there is anybody willing to help, go to the link above and just give us a shout!

User:Black Cats of The Full Moon

2011-04-09T01:47:52Z

Hayate-sama:

Black Cats of The Full Moon
-Sword Art Online novel translation project-
Current Members:

Translator: desodus, GapTinMana

Proofreader: [[User:Kira0802|Kira0802]]

Editors: drksmkpunchr, patchkn, [[User:darn2k|darn2k]]

Collaborators: [[User:Hayate-sama|Hayate-sama]], Oxe2011, [[User:rnn|rnn]], Izumi.Konata Aka Hiyono

Our Current Work:

Translating: Vol 3 ch 3 & vol 4 last chapter/

Editing: Vol 3 ch 2

Meeting Place:
http://forums.mangafox.com/threads/238831-Light-Novel-Discussion/

If there is anybody willing to help, go to the link above and just give us a shout!

User:Hayate-sama

2011-04-03T17:59:49Z

Hayate-sama:

Just want to make this nickname blue XD.

We - Black Cats of the Full Moon - are reciting translators, editors and proofreaders for Sword Art Online (JP-EN, CH-EN or Kor-EN - well, we don't have korean raw but SAO has been licensed in Korea).

[http://forums.mangafox.com/threads/238831-Light-Novel-Discussion/]

BTW if you haven't read SAO yet go read it. ^_^, most yummy novel that I have eaten for along time.

User:Hayate-sama

2011-04-03T17:55:11Z

Hayate-sama: Created page with "Just want to make this nickname blue XD. We - Black Cats of the Full Moon - are reciting translators, editors and proofreaders for Sword Art Online (JP-EN, CH-EN or Kor-EN - wel..."

User talk:YoakeNoHikari

2011-04-03T17:47:51Z

Hayate-sama:

Wow, superb job on the Hidan no Aria series. Godspeed my friend :)

Good to hear : ) - [[User:YoakeNoHikari|YoakeNoHikari]] 13:18, 2 April 2011 (EDT)

Yep awesome, really solid and fast translation of a pretty good novel.

Do you have any plan after volume 2 ? Volume 2 of Sword Art Online is missing some chapter and all the translator of that volume is inactive, could you help with that ^_^

User talk:YoakeNoHikari

2011-04-03T17:47:20Z

Hayate-sama: