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User:Trev lite

2014-08-26T04:08:49Z

Trev lite:

A roaming editor. 
Current projects:
* Mushoku Tensei [[User:Trev_lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology]]
* Kindle Support

Mushoku Tensei Status:
* Reference clean up: chapter 63.5 (on hold)
* Terminology clean up: chapter 1 (restarted due to terminology changes) (on hold due to school)

Timespamp: --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 20:11, 23 August 2014 (CDT)

User talk:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-24T03:20:52Z

Trev lite: Trev lite moved page Talk:Trev lite:Mushoku Tensei Terminology to User talk:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

It might be better if a translator takes care of the terminology lol. You look like you'll get confused. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 14:00, 22 August 2014 (CDT)

I agree. I will wait for the translators to fight about what should be the correct translation and come to a consensus. After that i will begin my standardization. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 17:37, 22 August 2014 (CDT)

When i have time i will update this page to the new terminology. School started so i will not be able to do any editing for a week or two. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 20:12, 23 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-24T03:20:51Z

Trev lite: Trev lite moved page Trev lite:Mushoku Tensei Terminology to User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
Note: out of date. will be updated eventual. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 20:13, 23 August 2014 (CDT)
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> (the) elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> (the) intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> (the) advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> (the) saint rank(ed)
* King -> (the) king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> (the) emperor rank(ed)
* God -> (the) god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana

===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Magic Titles ====
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (a) Fire-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (a) Earth-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (a) Wind-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (a) Fire-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (a) Earth-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (a) Wind-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a/the) Fire-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a/the) Water-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a/the) Earth-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a/the) Wind-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> (a) Magic Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)
* antidote healer -> (a) Antidote Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)

==== Magic Ranks ====
===== Magic Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (the) Fire-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (the) Earth-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (the) Wind-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (the) Fire-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (the) Earth-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (the) Wind-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (the) Fire-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (the) Earth-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (the) Wind-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (the) Fire-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (the) Earth-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (the) Wind-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Titles ====
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: King =====
* Sword King -> (a) Sword-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (a) North-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Emperor =====
* Sword Emperor -> (a) Sword-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (a) North-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Ranks ====
===== Sword Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Sword Saint -> (the) Sword-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (the) North-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Sword King -> (the) Sword-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (the) North-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Sword Emperor -> (the) Sword-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (the) North-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Worlds =====
* The human world
* The demon world
* The dragon world
* The beast world
* The sea world
* The heaven world
* The void world
===== Gods =====
* Human God -> (the) Human-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Dragon God -> (the) Dragon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Beast God -> (the) Beast-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God -> (the) Sea-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Heaven God -> (the) Heaven-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Void God -> (the) Void-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Titles: God =====
* (the) Human-God Hitogami
* (the) Demon-God Laplace
* (the) Dragon-God Orsted

===== Titles: Emperor =====
* Magic/Devil Emperor -> (the/a) Demon-Emperor
* (The) Demon World's Great Emperor Kishirika (unique title)
* Dragon Emperor -> (the/a) Dragon-Emperor

===== Title: King =====
* Magic/Devil King -> (a) Demon-King
* Dragon King -> (a) Dragon-King
===== Title: Lord =====
* Magic/Devil Lord -> (a) Demon-Lord
===== Continents =====
* Grand Continent -> (the) Grand continent (former)
* Central Continent -> (the) Central continent
* Milis Continent -> (the) Milis continent
* Heaven Continent -> (the) Heaven continent
* Begaritt Continent -> (the) Begaritto continent
* Magic Continent -> (the) Demon continent

===== Languages =====
* Human Language -> (the) human language
* Beast God Language -> (the) Beast-God language
* Heaven God Language -> (the) Heaven-God language
* Fighting God Language -> (the) Fighting-God language
* Magic God Language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God Language -> (the) Sea-God language
===== Races =====
* Human race -> (the) human race
* Magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* Beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
* Sea race -> (the) sea race
* Heaven race -> (the) heaven race
* Dragon race -> (the) dragon race
* Void race -> (the) void race
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 

=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
===== Capitalization =====
* a sensei, the senpai, my shishou (regular noun: lowercase)
* used the word Sensei, called him Senpai, doesn't like Shishou (mentioned the word: uppercase)
* Sensei did, need Senpai, get Shishou (title: uppercase)
* Rudeus-sensei, Fitts-senpai, Roxy-shishou (suffix: lowercase)
* Sensei Rudeus, My Senpai Fitts, The Shishou Roxy (prefix: uppercase)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User talk:Trev lite

2014-08-24T03:17:04Z

Trev lite:

== Mushoku Tensei ==

Thanks for your work! I did think it was slightly annoying when I saw the names changing from one group of chapters to the next... but could you please mark the changes as Minor Edits? It makes it easier for me (and others I assume) to browse the Recent Changes to see if anything has been updated. Thanks again! --[[User:CrimsonLord|Crimson Lord]] 11:39, 1 August 2014 (CDT)

Ok I will do that from now on. I thought that changing the name of a major character was not a minor change. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:06, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Dear Trev Lite,

Thank you for your contribution, for enquires about what is protocol regarding the names and terminology.
What you see on the name and terminology project specific guidelines,
is the currently accepted forms that when and if there is a conflict of such issue, the ones on that page shall prevail until such point that the project teams agrees in mutual consensus that a change to any on the list should be different.

Once again, thank you for your contribution.

Best Regards,

Onizuka-GTO 01:33, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Thank you for updating the names.--[[User:Tasear|Tasear]] ([[User talk:Tasear|talk]]) 22:45, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Your Welcome. If there are more names to update please ask me here or on the terminology talk page. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:05, 4 August 2014 (CDT)

== Shishou ==

First of all, I don't see why there's a need to remove the 'u' like Kaito sometimes does.

Second of all, I've already discussed this issue with Kaito in the past (roughly 2-3 weeks ago).

Though I previously translated it as 'master' as it carries more or less the same connotations in English that shishou does in Japanese, Kaito brought to my attention the fact that Julie uses the terms 'grandmaster' and 'master', so the two of us agreed that to make a distinction, 'Shishou' would be used.

At any rate, as a term that could be used in martial arts, it's not really too different from the specialised term 'sensei', and I don't think the readers will have a problem. Cheers.

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 06:00, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

I am actually all for adding the u to shisho(u)
For now i will stop my convertion of Shishou into master.
If asked i will revert Master back to Shishou.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite#top|talk]]) 14:34, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

== ""s and []s ==

SilentWolfie did this for his own tastes, but the raw Japanese use the completely normal 「」 quotations marks that you'd find anywhere else.

It's simply normal "".

One thing that should be noted (and is absent from Kaito's chapters due to his romaaji machine) is that chapters where they speak different languages make a distinction with the speech marks.

When speaking in the language that isn't the main one for the scene, he'll use 『』 instead. I've used these as well, but you might prefer to use [] in its place.

Anyway, as I mentioned just now, this factor is absent from Kaito's translations due to his machine, and someone will have to go add this distinction back in. Some notable examples where they use different speech marks are during the Japanese and Human language scene with Nanahoshi, Rudy and Sylphy (their first meeting).

Volume 12's conversations with the Battle God Language and Elinalise's Human Race Language also make such a distinction (two such conversations are the one they have after saving the merchant, and the one where she scolds a warrior).

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 06:05, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

I will no be doing any changes to ""s and []s for a while. I am not sure i will have it in me to do the monstrous task of changing all of the chapters to the new standard for quotations. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite#top|talk]]) 14:40, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

== * Grayrat to Greyrat ==

The standard for this project is American English (which I personally hate, btw), so could you explain the reasoning behind this? [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 06:06, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

I am just making sure the name is consistent. The name Grayrat is only used in a few chapters. Since the name of Greyrat is used in most chapters and is on the Terminology page, i will be converting to Greyrat.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite#top|talk]]) 14:43, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

== Misuse of namespace ==

Hi, could you move your extra talk page to a place under your user namespace. For example, User:Trev_lite/"something" --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari|Talk]] | ) 20:15, 23 August 2014 (CDT)

woops. i thought it was under my namespace. i will fix this asap. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite#top|talk]]) 22:17, 23 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-24T01:13:22Z

Trev lite:

User talk:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-24T01:12:43Z

Trev lite:

User:Trev lite

2014-08-24T01:11:37Z

Trev lite:

A roaming editor. 
Current projects:
* Mushoku Tensei [[Trev_lite:Mushoku Tensei Terminology]]
* Kindle Support

Mushoku Tensei Status:
* Reference clean up: chapter 63.5 (on hold)
* Terminology clean up: chapter 1 (restarted due to terminology changes) (on hold due to school)

Timespamp: --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 20:11, 23 August 2014 (CDT)

Talk:Mushoku Tensei Names and Terminology

2014-08-24T01:10:46Z

Trev lite: /* Rudeus/Ludeus/Roux'Deus */

== Misc ==
http://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/636576/ <--- Author BLOG character bio page (incomplete + spoilers)

http://ncode.syosetu.com/n9669bk/192/ <--- Map 3 raw page, if you want to figure out location names. I'm still bothered over Milis, Milishion, and Arusu (capital of Asura)

Thanks for making this page, it was needed though I'm not good with these types of translations. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 05:28, 11 July 2014 (CDT)

After trying to find out who Zenisu was, the need for such a page became obvious. Please put any names you stumble upon during translation into it so that we can make it uniform throughout the translations. We still need to decide on the variants, though (i.e. Janis or Janice?) [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 05:54, 11 July 2014 (CDT)

The names here and the names in the "Character Introductions" on the Main Page were written differently. Please fix it. --[[User:Yoyoyo5678|Yoyoyo5678]] ([[User talk:Yoyoyo5678|talk]])

Exact names are not yet stabilized. Usually the first translator to stumble upon one decides on it, but here even the same translator frequently switches from one romanization to another. Feel free to discuss any discrepancies here, so that we can select the best ones. [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 06:06, 11 July 2014 (CDT)
Also, sometimes later information forces to correct earlier spelling. I.e. when choosing between Greyrat/Greyrait, later there is a reference to "mousy family name". [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 06:12, 11 July 2014 (CDT)

SilentWolfie translate Rapurasu(sp) the Demon Lord as Lapius. I think the name is a reference to Laplace's Demon. --[[User:Silereamer|Silereamer]] ([[User talk:Silereamer|talk]]) 02:08, 13 July 2014 (CDT)

I'd like to piggyback on the former comment about the discrepancy for Zenisu being translated as Janice instead of Zenith. The katakana and no less than 4 translation engines spit 'Zenith' out as a solid match. That being said I'll leave my naming contribs here and let you all decide where to go since I'm fielding vol.7 academy arc. Localization of names I'd rather leave to the editors, since they do the polishing anyways. ザノバ・シーローン Zanoba is an ethiopian name and quite common around north africa. No complaints about Shiron/Shirone as the territory surname attributed to him being prince. ギレーヌ・デドルディア Guillain Dedorudia it's a french name, and perhaps an ironic joke, considering Robert Guillain was a french author on works about the nation of japan who was also an eyewitness to the atom bomb drop on hiroshima (sounds like the mana calamity, right?) クリフ・グリモル Cliff Grimoire yet another play on words to his occupation. A grimoire being quite literally 'book of grammar', though this time in an esoteric sense, since he's quite knowledgeable on written magic formations having to do with the nature of summoning magic. ナナホシ should remain Nanahoshi instead of Sevenstar (or variant), at least until any wordplay becomes prevalent, though there is a great deal of mythos in this series dealing with the number 7. アリエル・アネモイ・アスラ Ariel Anemoi Asura is legit. 'Anemoi' is a greek psuedo-deity of the wind, with the lesser chief wind dieties being Eurus, Boreas, Notos, and Zephyrus (the Grayrat branches in the book) カラヴァッジョ　Caravaggio was a 16th century Italian Painter, other localizations of his name also include Caravage. イゾルテ (Izorute) sounds similar to 'Iseult' of Tristan and Isolde fame. A nice story or fast wikipedia read will show similar details in reference to plot involving her character... sort of anyway. キシリカ・キシリス Kishirika Kishirisu - keep the r's and drop the u if it makes it feel easier to the eyes, otherwise it's fine, I think it's personally a play on the word '軋る' Kishiru; which is an annoying sound like a floorboard squeak or the grating of a metal fence post when you swing it open. And considering her FUHAHAHAHAHA she does near every other line she is quite annoying when she's not being useful. (as well as Badi-Gadi and the other Immortal Devil Kings, there is appropriate wordplay for them as well.) For the beasts of the forest of milis continent ギュエス Gaius from the Dorudia tribe is a play on words and also associates with his daughter the dog-beast girl プルセナ Parusena (Lars Porsena, was a king who besieged rome at one point, and had an attempted assassination by a youth named Gaius, even though the youth failed, His bravado caused king Porsena to enact a peace treaty and lift the siege.) ミニトーナ Minito-na (Minnetona) and テルセナ Terusena (Tersena) I haven't found the complete wordplay on yet, so it might just be random, I'll do some looking into it later on if clues arise. 聖獣様 Seijuu-sama Lit. Esteemed Sacred Animal/Holy Beast-sama. He figures quite a bit in vol 18+ because of the importance of ララ (Lara? Lara just fits best in my mind anyway so far) so confirming what to call his name as should be important. Though He does end up being called "Leo" later on. リニア Rinia. No wordplay with this so far, so keeping this as such for now. I expect some wordplay will fall into place since she is something 人神／ヒトガミ Human God/Hitogami keeps throwing Rudeus' way. And it is important to differentiate 人神 Human God from just 神 God (who happens to be ロキシー/Roxy!). and lastly スペルド族 The Superudo Tribe. A couple takes see it as Spelled (as in having an obvious magic enchantment) and one that I didn't get at first, since my brain read it's katakana as 'Speared' having to do mainly with the tribe's affinity to spears which is a major crux of Ruijerd's plot. Anything is fine though. ラプラス Rapurasu is clearly a reference to the Demon of LaPlace, since he was one of the Immortal Demon Lords according to the 400-year history of the world (just currently sealed away in the fortress Chaos Breaker.) --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 03:08, 13 July 2014 (CDT)--

^+100 points, that's some awesome reasoning and precisely why I'm no good with names. One thing on the Holy Beast, I've been translating it that way because of Holy sounds best for most aspects of that continent, technically that entire area uses Saint rather than Holy. IE Saint Beast-sama, Saint Milis, Saint Milis Country would be an alternative name for that one though since every other location is named Kingdom and Saint doesn't fit well as a country/kingdom name, I went with defining it as Holy Milis Kingdom. Also, it could have been taken as Sword Saint/Saint Sword Highway, I don't know if that could have some background in regards to Saint Beasts. One thing I do agree on is the meaning behind Superudo, I think I'm going to switch to using Speared for that one. Also, agree on Laplace Demon (Maxwell is a later mentioned character as well AKA Maxwell's Demon entertaining that page is linked to the Wiki page for Laplace, and Maxwell is related to Atofe I believe both who are related to Laplace if I'm remembering the events right).--[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 06:53, 13 July 2014 (CDT)

Wow, I didn't know there were so many Greek god references but I'm not surprised. About 人神, it's stated in chapter 160 「準備」 that the world knows him as 人神 (pronounced Jinshin) and Hitogami is more like a personal name that few people know, making his full name 人神ヒトガミ (Jinshin Hitogami, perhaps better translated as Human God Hitogami). Leaving his name in romaji also fits with all the times people ask others about him (for example, when Rudeus first asks Ruijerd about 人神, to which Rujierd quizically replies "ヒトガミ？"). That's my opinion. On a side note, I always thought キシリカ's name would sound good written as Kicilica Kicilice, as it seems etymologically similar to the 魔大陸 town リカリス which is close to リコリス/Licorice. Just figured I'd put it out there. (Alternative spelling for maximum mind-screw: Cicilica Cicilice.) --[[User:Myopius|Myopius]] ([[User talk:Myopius|talk]]) 05:34, 14 July 2014 (CDT)

Translations engines are not an authority on romanizations, as well as katakana. Best way to find romanizations for names is to look for known persons with such a romanization. Janice is just as good a match.
Guillain is ギラン, not even close to Girune, which is ギレーヌ [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 22:15, 15 July 2014 (CDT)

Sinisl, because naming sense in katakana is truly a troublesome thing, do you mind if I share how I even came to 'Guillain' as the translation? Before anything else, let me apologize now if I come off sounding rude, I don't mean it to be anything other than an objectionary statement.
Firstly, until just this edit, I haven't consulted a translation engine on the matter. Secondly, isn't ギルーネ Giru-ne and ギレーヌ Gire-nu? I sounded ''''レ'''' as ''le'' opposed to ''re'', and got Gilenu, which if you carry the re/le sound with the hyphen, you get a double vowel result ree/lee, which results in something like Gileenu. The '''ee''' coming off as similar to the ''a'' in s''a''y. Thirdly, is that this author does borrow his fantasy names from a wide range of European sources, and just sounding it out made my intuition say it was french.
But, then I decided to check out what the translation engines and pronunciation engines have to say on the matter, since you did have a good idea there, and got these links as what I guess would be empirical evidence for my claim on the name as Guillain.
[http://www.sljfaq.org/cgi/k2e.cgi?word=%E3%82%AE%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8C Katakana to English similarities on ギレーヌ] and [http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=guillain French pronunciation of ギレーヌ] with the second link, to me at least the 're' can sound like a 'le' and the 'nu' is just pronounced softly. But if you have a better suggestion than that, please go for it. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes, rather, I am just trying to help fill in troublesome blanks if I can. It can stay Gire-nu indefinitely if it's easier for everyone.
And as for ゼニス ... [http://www.sljfaq.org/cgi/k2e.cgi?word=%E3%82%BC%E3%83%8B%E3%82%B9 Katakana to English similarities for ゼニス]. '''Je'''nice is listed, and I can see a logical jump there, but '''Ja'''nice is more like '''ジャ'''ニス if it's JanISS as opposed to '''ジャ'''ニ'''ー'''ス if it's JahNEESE (yes, ask me how I know two women who pronounce their names that way as well -_-). I just can't wrap my head around the entire oversight of reading ゼ '''ze''' as ジャ '''ja'''. Plus, this author uses Rudeus to spout Dragon Quest related nonsense everywhere, and King Zenith ゼニス王 was a ruler of the floating castle of Dragon Quest 6 also happened to be a human instead of what the previous owners were: dragons, so it's not entirely implausible he would use that name using the Zenith->ChaosBreaker->Pergius chain, since Rudeus makes all those 'I became a sage...' jokes to hysterical comic relief, and Sage just happens to be a recurring class in the DQ series. Anyways, that's just speculation on my part, I just happen to see these weird puns like that littered throughout the novel. Anyway, once again I sincerely apologize if my remarks came off as rude, it is not intentional at all. I'm just trying to be constructive and informative about how I come to reach my naming suggestions. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 02:08, 16 July 2014 (CDT)

Ah, of course it is Girenu, eyes get tired of reading katakana so much. Wiki says Ghislaine Thesmar is written as ギレーヌ・テスマー, so that's one good reading right there that doesn't require any inventiveness. [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 11:47, 16 July 2014 (CDT)

Ghislaine eh? wow that's beautiful, because you just pointed out something interesting. Both a Ghislaine ((Which does have a verifiable prounciation as "Gee-len" [http://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/ghislaine See audio result #2]) and Linnea (リニア)
("Lin-e-AH") [http://www.forvo.com/word/linn%C3%A9a/ Swedish pronunciation of Linnéa.] Are types of Foliage. Ghislaine being a Rose, and Linnea being a Twinflower. That becomes incredibly humorous when you think how Linnea and Pursena are almost always together. I don't think I would have caught that. Nice job!

Girenu or Ghislaine or Guillain or Ghyslaine? Confused cross-referencing this list and AnimeSuki for the names.. We are talking about one character - right? right?
Whenever you guys want I can try to walk through all the pages and fix the names given permission.. Because I'm in the mood for fixing the names.. If we ever reach a conclusion o_O [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 20:33, 16 July 2014 (CDT)

For now, I think we should just stick to the Names and Terminology page for consistency with the current Tled chapters. Once names are finalised, if they need to be changed, they can be done. [[User:Pumkingboyz|Pumkingboyz]] ([[User talk:Pumkingboyz|talk]]) 03:25, 18 July 2014 (CDT)

Just throwing these ones out here again with links, but as Skuizaan already mentioned above possible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamba_(mythology) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iseult Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarilo --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 09:13, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

They are a miss: Iseult starts with 'Ise', not with 'Ize', Jarilo ends with 'ro', not with 'ru'. [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 11:29, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Have to agree with [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] in that Jarilo is a complete miss. The 'j' in Jarilo is a 'y' sound: ヤリーロ
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ヤリーロ [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 13:00, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Jarilo (Cyrillic: Ярило or Јарило; Polish: Jaryło; Template:Lang-slo; Croatian: Jura or Juraj; Serbian: Đurilo; Slavic: Jarovit), alternatively '''Yarilo, Iarilo,''' or Gerovit, was a Slavic god of vegetation, fertility and springtime. I think we should rename him Gerovit, lol. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 13:26, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Ariel's attendent's names need to be standardized.
Erumina/Erumoa Bluewolf/Blue Wolf (I recommend Elmina/Elmoa Bluewolf)
Kurine/Kuriine Erurondo (I recommend Kurine Elrond)
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 18:35, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

The big city that Rudeus goes to to tutor Eris is called both Fedoa (same name as the region it is in) and Roa. Could some one look over this please.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 00:53, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

== About Rudy's armor ==

It was actually spelled as madou yoroi = magic/magical armor, just like how 魔導書 was spelled as madoushou = magic/magical tome or grimoire for short (well, correct me if I was wrong ^ ^)--[[User:Endo|Endo]] ([[User talk:Endo|talk]]) 00:02, 18 July 2014 (CDT)

== Zantport and Wenport ==

Suggestion: If you're going to be liberal and translate 'wenpooto' as 'Windport', you may as well go the whole mile and translate 'zantopooto' as Sandport.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 01:01, 20 July 2014 (CDT)

Reason being that Japanese don't have trouble rendering 'Wind' as 'Windo' e.g. the word ウィンドサーフィン, or the company 株式会社WIND also written as 株式会社ウィンド. Gunna be frank here; if the author is aware of a name like Ghislaine, then I'd bet that he knows 'wind' is not typically written as 'wen'. In other words, either he's hinting at 'wind', which makes it possible that 'zanto' is hinting at 'sand', or he didn't have 'wind' in mind at all, and it's supposed to be 'wenport'. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:46, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Be a rebel and translate it as Saint Port (though it is the Mirisu side). I didn't think Zanto had the sound of Sand, I guess that does sort of make sense after its pointed out. Names too hard for me I should just start naming all characters with letters, though I would run out and have to mix them with numbers, Rudeus is now called A1 in my translations... --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 01:15, 20 July 2014 (CDT)

Gunna rebel and start using Rooday'Az.[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 11:52, 20 July 2014 (CDT)

As for the wenpooto/zantopooto business, I would like to let alllllll you editors know, that I personally feel that you either stay fundamentalist for both (Wenport and Zantport), or liberal for both (Windport and Sandport). Also, I don't think there's a problem with Begaritto IMO, unless someone finds convincingly corresponding sounds in names of European places. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:24, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

EDIT: Also, still waiting on your input about changing the MC's name to Rooday'Az lol. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:27, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

When it comes to names I have no issue with any changes to them it's better if they're all the same across the board. Just try to avoid any names that might massively alter the meaning. That Special/Good Life thing in volume 7 bothers me a bit in such a way. I always thought of Girenu as a Gelaine kind of name but if you guys want to take that as a Ghyslaine, that's similar and fine, just don't expect me to remember how to type it out like that when I'm translating it later, your free to fix it after to whatever is decided. Also, I mentioned it as a joke before but after giving it some thought I seriously started to consider Zanto = Saint, Saint Port as a connection point between what should have been Country of Saint Milis and it's at one end of the Sword Saint Highway. Anyways, good luck with the names no need to ask me any further. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 07:45, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Mmn, I think Saint Port might be good too. I just suggested Sand Port because I found it weird that 'wenpooto' was taken so liberally (I don't think a normal Japanese would get 'wind' from 'ウェン'), but you guys didn't noticed that 'zantopooto' might be sand in that case. If anything, you should be using Wenport and Sandport, not Windport and Zantoport (which would be much more normal for Japanese).

The reason is because 'zanto' resembles the German/Dutch pronunciation of 'sand', and so the four letter combination 'sand' ends up as ザント in Japanese.

e.g. in Log Horizon, ザント is used in the name of a place called ザントリーフ (taken by most translators as Sand Leaf). e.g. http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ザントハウゼン (Sandhausen) 
e.g. http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/マルティン・ザントベルガー (Martin Sandberger) 

On the other hand, the four letter combination 'wind' is basically always ウィンド (windo) and not ウェン (wen). For this reason, imo the possible names should be like this, from most liberal to most fundamentalist:

1. Saint Port and Wind Port 
2. Sand Port and Wind Port 
3. Sandport and Wenport 
4. Zantport and Wenport 

And yeah, the Special/Good Life thing is bothering me as well lol. It's weird because in English we don't associate 'life' with 'student'. Readers might get the wrong impression. Honestly "the Good Life" sounds like the name of some pyramid scam.
Also I think that Gelaine might be a corruption of Ghislaine. I've personally never heard of Gelaine though, but it doesn't seem popular judging by google searches. It's just conjecture, but perhaps it's an 'alternate' spelling of Ghislaine. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 09:37, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

== Shiron Kingdom ==

Throwing in support for 'Shirone' or something like that instead of Shiron. Reading the raws for volume 7 at the moment, and found that it's シーローン王国. Usually the long 'roon' (ローン) is used for words that sound like 'lawn' (as in the grass) or loan (as in the investment). [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:55, 21 July 2014 (CDT)

At animesuki I saw them use Pax Shiron/Shirone instead of Pakkusu, since its a fairly well known latin word. Its also ironic considering the prince is anything but peaceful.--[[User:Nosobi|Nosobi]] ([[User talk:Nosobi|talk]]) 22:07, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

== エリナリーゼ ==

Would like to suggest ending エリナリーゼ's name in lise or liese, as it is reminiscent of the German/French name ending. I'm currently suggesting Elinalise as it sounds like parts of a real name, but as I realise there's no long vowel in エリナ, I'm ambivalent towards both 'Elina' and 'Erina'. 

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/リーゼ

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 01:21, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

It's only like that cause the earlier chapters were tl'ed like that and changed for consistency. If Kaito doesn't mind, i'll change 'erinarize' to 'Elinalise', 'begaritto' to 'begarit' and 'Shiron' to 'Shirone', should Zanto port/Wenport stay as it is or be changed to sand port/wind port? There was also talks about Girenu/Ghislaine/Guillain/Ghyslaine but a decision was never made. Please let me know if you want these changed [[User:Pumkingboyz|Pumkingboyz]] ([[User talk:Pumkingboyz|talk]]) 01:59, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Shouldn't this be discussed amongst the editors? Kaito himself has said that he'd leave things to the editors. I understand my place as well, and will obey the will of the majority. Still, I have the right to stubbornly try and change your minds lol. For one thing, I'm pretty sure Guillain is a man's name, and written as ギラン(giran). ギレーヌ (gireenu) is almost certainly Ghislaine or one of it's variants (Ghyslaine for example) and not Girenu. It's also not Ghislain because that's also a man's name (lol). [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:24, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

^^^^
It is probably Guilléne. Guillén and Ghislain are male, you add 'e' to the end - Guilléne and Ghislaine to make them feminine.

Yeah no way I want to change names without a consensus because I'll feel guilty if I destroy people's translations. However I went to AnimeSuki forum and even there they said the only consensus they ever come to is Orsted (instead of Orusuteddo or Orstedd) because there was a roman writing. If you guys need help I can go through and make the names consistent. Just tell us editors what to do. There're like 4-5 version of names out there including the online-translated stuff that didn't get romanized. Give us the trigger and I'll start referring to this page to fix all the names and terminologies. Unlike Vanant while I obey the will of the majority I have no reason to change peoples' minds lol because seems like a lot had already done their research. Oh, can we get more wiki/reference links in the page so new editors know why did people come up with the names? :) [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 10:59, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Was just reading [[User_talk:Pumkingboyz]] and [[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] was talking about flower names being used for Lilia, Ghislaine, Ginger, and Juliet. Was there a reason we're using Lylia instead of Lilia? Was it game reference? We're not prioritizing flower name usage? [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 12:26, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Christian_%C3%98rsted Orsted.] also if it's the difference between male and female changing Ghislaine with Ghyslaine go with the feminine. Elinalize or whatever is fine. No real references found with her or aisha. Pakkusu should be Pax though, without a doubt, since 'Pax' means peace, and we know he is anything but peaceable. Lilia is not in any DQ game, though you might find it funny that our friend Cliff Grimoire is. From DQ4, also the origin of Zenith (Castle), Kurifuto was a PC if I remember my NES, and I don't. Take away the -to and you have Kurifu. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 02:09, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

== ギュエス (gyuesu) ==

I suggest Gyes. In Japanese, the Hekatonkheir Gyes (Γύης) is romanised as ギュエス(gyuesu) or alternatively ギューエース(gyuueesu). Considering all this other shit the guy knows about Greek mythology I'm going to go out on a limb and suppose that he's heard of the hekatonkheires. In the first place, Gyes is one of the hekatonkheires that appears in Owari no Chronicle.

Incidentally, one of its other names is Gyges (Γύγης), is brought into Japanese as ギューゲース (gyuugeesu). 

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ヘカトンケイル [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:39, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Whoa, didn't see ^this link before. Go with that by all means.--[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 12:39, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

== イゾルテ・クルーエル (izorute kuruueru) ==

Copy of conversation:

You need to have a look at how they romanise things here: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/トリスタンとイゾルデ

Isolde is イゾルデ(izorude) and Iseult is イズールト(izuuruto). You have the grounds to change Iseult to Isolte or something or other, but there's no grounds for you to say that "oh, it's not a 'so' sound but a 'zo' sound so let's change it to Izolte"
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:29, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

If you look, you'll notice that イゾルテ is neither of those - it is not ending in 'De', and second syllable is not 'Zu'. Modified reading of Isolde into Isolte, that corresponds to the change of 'de' to 'te', is as good reading as any, unless an example is found of word with existing translation with exactly that reading [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 12:39, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

You're missing my point completely, lol. I'm saying that no matter if it's a テ or a デ, "Iseult starts with 'Ise', not with 'Ize'" is completely invalid. Iseult and Isolde are both transliterated as 'z' sounds (see righhhhhhhht above this message. I'll even bold it for you.). Not to be rude here, but you're going to have to learn that '''Japanese don't take pronounciation cues from English alone''', buddy. A great example is how they write 'Bach' lol. How about you tell me that バッハ isn't Bach, because Bach should end in a っく sound.

When it comes to fantasy names, they're usually not taken directly from an actual name/location name. That's why we do the best we can to find parts that they may have pieced together, or taken cues from. For example, Iseult and Isolde.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:44, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

EDIT: For the record, I have no idea who this izorute character is lol. I'm just arguing because I can't agree with the basis behind [[User:SinsI|SinsI]]'s modification to Izolte (http://i59.tinypic.com/291gyuw.png). If he's being picky about the 'te' ending instead of 'de' ending, then use Isolte. It makes no sense to use 'izolte' when Japanese have clearly shown that they use イゾ to represent the 'iso' sound in Isolde.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:53, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

BTW I was just pointing Iseult wiki page out as the most likely origin for her character (matches her character description as well), Izolte, Izolde, Isolde, or Isolte all work IMO for names, it says right on the wiki page that Isolde is an alternative spelling for Iseult, put that through a Japanese pronunciation grinder and any of those work really. She appears in the Eris side stories along the later volumes, also in volume 16 chapter 5 Letter Arrives that I translated previously. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 13:23, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

@[[User:SinsI|SinsI]]: As I've said, if you're unhappy with Iseult, then use Isolte. There's no need for Izolte because 1) it's not a name 2) The 'iso' in 'Isolte' is read as 'イゾ(izo)' anyways. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 14:25, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

As much as I lit the fire here... Izolute was how I read it at first, and was just looking for what was phonetically close, because katakana is... well yeah. Honestly, I was wondering if Izolute wasn't some kind of counter word to something like Resolute. If not, I mean, you have Final Fantasy Tactics' good old [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Isilud_Tengille Izlude]it's literally one kana off. イズルード (Izoru-do) instead of イズルテ (Izorute). And we know this guy is all about Square-enix games. We can ignore this character for a while, but she will be dealt with during Eris side stories, and in vol.18 I believe. BUT I'm going to throw this out here. Tristina. Tristina is mentioned around this time as well and you have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_and_Iseult Tristan and Iseult]. I mean yeah it's somewhat stretching it, and honestly, I don't care enough to pursue it at this time. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 02:09, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

== リニア(rinia) & プルセナ(purusena) ==

==プルセナ==
I feel that the Porsena Lars thing is grasping at straws a bit. First of all they write him as ポルセナ王(king porusena). Second of all he's not that famous. Pursena is probably just a made up name that Ludicrous Backscratcher came up with.

http://www.oct.zaq.ne.jp/poppo456/in/p_Publicola.htm (mentions of porusena as ポルセナ王)

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/shizuo_asogawa/e/697fadb7ae033607473d74979fb4e891 (mentions of porusena as ポルセナ王)

http://wikimatome.com/wiki/ポルセナ

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 07:00, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

It's fine to do whatever on this one tbh, I'm not gonna be obstinate. Mainly because I've read this: [http://altneues.com/sagon/haevest/h/Haevest.html Haevest] which happens to have a character in it named Purusena, same as in this one.--[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 12:30, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

Since her name matches with her sister, should we change that other girl to Tersena? Or should we go with Purusena for this one?
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 22:35, 29 July 2014 (CDT)

==リニア==
Linnea the flower would be リンネ(rinne) wouldn't it? http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/リンネソウ

The only mention of リニア(rinia, the character's name) with regards to botanology would be the calandrinia (カランドリニア) so I'm pretty happy with Rinia as things are. ATM the idea that the author was going for some flower naming scheme seems just a tad dubious. Speaking fairly though, I'm only up to volume 8.

As for the Swedish name, it's リネア(rinea):

"スウェーデンで「リネア」は女の子の名前としても大変有名です。" - http://woodenhorse.shop-pro.jp/?pid=42910460 
"In Sweden, the girls' name 'Linnea' is very famous."

Hotel name transliterated as リネア(rinea), not リニア(rinia): http://www.jtb.co.jp/kaigai_fit/fr/v2/hotel/1081529/index.html;jsessionid=D04A45F1D49693C8E9605EEE5703A4C9

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 07:00, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

[https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%E3%83%AA%E3%83%8B%E3%82%A2+and+%E5%90%8D%E5%89%8D+and+Linnea Googled the following: リニア and 名前 and Linnea] It's legit. Some people do pronounce it Lin EE ah リニア, not just Lin AY uh リネア. Honestly if it was me, I wouldn't even attempt to localize any of these names. Until the end Rinia would be Rinia, Purusena Purusena, Gire-nu Gire-nu, etc. I worry that the people who want to do the manga scanlation (BTW chapter 1 is out in Monthly comic flapper- june issue) are going to be taking the naming cues from us. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 12:11, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

From experience the manga scanlators are worse in romanizing names. e.g. Lots of weird names for Hyouketsu Kyoukai no Eden first time, but the author himself did give the characters some hard-to-pronounce names tho lol. But yeah my first sentence still stands. [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 12:15, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

Oh cool! Stand corrected. -salutes- [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 17:40, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

Has there been an official decision on this name yet? Personally i am in the Linnea camp (because that is the flower's name), but if the wiki makes a decision i will commence with the standardization. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:42, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

== Bog? Quagmire? Morass? Marshland? Swamp? Mire? Fen? ==

Lets decide this please.

I prefer "Morass" because it makes for a great word in the following chapters.

But i'm willing to settle for "Marshland", "Mire" or "Fen".

"Bog" is a slang for a toilet and quagmire reminds me of "Family Guy", so they will never sound "cool" in my head....ever.

--Onizuka-GTO 03:30, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

I stand by "Bog" first, he gets comments on how "dirty" his name sounds when his nickname comes up. Though just going with the simple "Mud" might work as well. "Rudeus of the Mud". "Rudmud" or "Mudeus" for short. Lol. That sounds so bad but I don't think his name was intended to sound cool. In terms of English transition Quagmire might work for comedic effect, "Oh Rudeus of the Quagmire you're so dirty~" It's like an unintended English reference. (Or maybe the Author was really just that bad ass to put that into consideration when he came up with it as a reference?) My opinion: 1. Bog, 2. Quagmire 3. Mud --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 04:23, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

"Bog" is a slang for a toilet and quagmire reminds me of "Family Guy", so they will never sound "cool" in my head....ever.
Have to agree with both of these, but the first comment in particular. Seeing peopel write it as 'bog' is just really uhh... Like, I can't imagine that anyone could associate that with respect lol.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 15:12, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

Okay, since Kaito makes a point that it shouldn't be "cool" i can understand it for later usage, but i really can't stand "bog" or "mud", "Quagmire" irritates me, but that's from a cultural standpoint and i suspect for non-western/Native English-speaking readers, the reference wouldn't be an issue.
So i propose that we stick with "Quagmire", as it is not anyones favourite and irritates us all equally, which can be used in later comedic instances.

Onizuka-GTO 01:05, 26 July 2014 (CDT)

It is written Rudus of quagmire. Is it simple typo or does he goes by Rudus instead of Rudeus? ~Anonymous stranger

It's a typo of Roux'Deus.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 07:30, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

== Voiceless or Chantless? ==

Which one? I'm seeing both in the translations.
[[User:DaiZzed|DaiZzed]] ([[User talk:DaiZzed|talk]]) 16:37, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

I'm the one who usually uses Voiceless Incantations (I think it started from Silent's translations?), but that might assume he's still using the incantation just in his head. Chantless is the proper way of using it, and you're free to fix them if you see it. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 16:58, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

he doesn't "chant" per se, he "imagines" or virtually 3D builds the magic mentally, therefore i feel "chantless" is more accurate.
Onizuka-GTO 01:07, 26 July 2014 (CDT)

Chantless would certainly be closer to the term used in the Japanese. 無詠唱　[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 04:19, 26 July 2014 (CDT)

==Zenith Greyrat==

Has a decision been made on the name of Rudy mother's name?

its zenith but they havent been updated yet

Made the update --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:49, 31 July 2014 (CDT)

== Rudi or Rudy? ==

Since someone is changing Rudi to Rudy, we should at least get consensus on this.
I prefer Rudi, but there's no real basis behind it.
--[[User:DaiZzed|DaiZzed]] ([[User talk:DaiZzed|talk]]) 21:36, 30 July 2014 (CDT)

I prefer Rudi as well, that's what Paul uses, that's what Sylphy uses...

Though occasionally they cut Rudeus short in context to Rude as well it's usually a surprised speech or that sort when it comesu p.. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 22:55, 30 July 2014 (CDT)

I prefer Rudy because it's the common spelling for the dimunitive form of Rudolph (also known as "I've met two people named Rudy and one more on the internet, but I've never come across a guy called Rudi"). That's probably because I don't speak any German though.
At any rate, will continue translating it as such; editors can do whatever. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 07:29, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

I know Rudy is usually a shortened form of Rudolph and probably Rudeus, plus I saw somewhere Rudi is usually a girl's name. -[[User:Marrow|Marrow]] ([[User talk:Marrow|talk]]) 08:36, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

Oh, just started reading volume 12. I see now why people said his name is probably Ludeus. Will we end up changing it to Ludeus or? [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:45, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

Think the author is a fan of FFIV? [http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2322387/ this character's name] is familiar.... anyway [[User:Onizuka-gto|Onizuka-gto]] can you just decide? I really don't mind either way, but we're split here and just need an executive decision on this. --[[User:DaiZzed|DaiZzed]] ([[User talk:DaiZzed|talk]]) 00:04, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

That seems like good evidence that the name should be Ludeus Grayrat (i would keep the nickname as Rudy though). I can do the work editing everything to say Ludeus if a change is to be made. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:44, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

Umm.. so no one has caught the joke with his name yet either?
'Ludius' is the old Latin word for 'Player' MC's name is literally 'Player' as in Player 1. This extends to 'Ludi' as well.
I like Rudeus though.--[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 17:28, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

My personal opinion is that Rudeus is more or less accepted and we should not change it this late in the story. (Lets all avoid and side step the L = R headache)
As for it's shorten form, since the name "Rudeus" is already unique in some ways, i would prefer "Rude" as it's more of a logical shorten form of "Rudeus", on the other hand "Rudi" does indeed sound more feminine and finally "Rudy" is already associated with "Rudolph" so i would like to avoid using that.
As mentioned before, we are dealing with a fictional names, so there really isn't any point trying to associate it with a real life established name, so Lets just keep it consistent, fiction names with fictional shorten forms and real names with real shorten names.

Regards,

Onizuka-GTO 21:31, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

I don't think "Rude" would be a good choice as that name is a negative adjective. Rudi is usually associated with females but I think we should go with it. Here's the reason why: [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rudi Urban dictionary]

'''
"An extremely attractive guy that is very succesful at what he does. Can also be very funny and make people like him for making them feel good."'''
"That guy is so goodlooking, he is such a Rudi"

The fact that some chapters use Rudi and others Rudy is driving me crazy. I hope a decision is made so that i can fix this problem. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:37, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Ah, i forgot that "Rude" is in English is someone who is not very polite! Sometime reading in the Japanese romanji method can be a bad habit. haha.

Okay, lets stick with "Rudi" then.

Onizuka-GTO 00:18, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== Fitts or Fitz ==

Seen both, clarification would be appreciated -[[User:Marrow|Marrow]] ([[User talk:Marrow|talk]]) 14:09, 31 July 2014 (CDT)

Since Fitts is derived from Fedoa's Region, we need to change the latter so that they match. [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 04:05, 1 August 2014 (CDT)

How is that ever going to work? Any ideas? [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:08, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

The Fedz. They're always looking out for you. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 23:14, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

I will commence the standardization then. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:45, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

there is some talk in vol 9 about the one requirement to become prince entourage is he/she must be a noble child, so they masquerading Sylphy as a bastard son of noble. and here "Fitz" name come to[reference to "Assassin Apprentice" by Robin Hobb, must read first half of that book to know the origin of "Fitz"] --[[User:zmunjali|zmunjali]] ([[User talk:zmunjali|talk]])

== Protection Art User Derrick Redbad ==

I haven't read past volume 11 yet, so if it turns out to be wrong, forgive me.

I was thinking that "Protection Art User" might be better worded as "Guard Magician" or "Guardian Magician". The reason is that there are two 'positions' for the guards; one is Guardian Knight（守護騎士, shugokishi） and the other is Protection Technique Expert （守護術師, shugojutsushi）. Unless Sylphy turns out to be practising some unique form of protection magic or other protection skills that a 守護騎士 wouldn't, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to consider 守護術師 as a shortened title for Guardian Magician （守護魔術師, shugomajutsushi）, since it's one knight and one magician.

Yes? No? Would be happy if someone who read ahead or knew more about the situation around the royal family responded.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 08:57, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

I had changed it to Guardian Magician after the initial upload. After-edits must have changed it back. I was pondering over whether or not to leave it as Magician (since Jutsushi also does translate to Magician without needing the 'Ma' character) or try something class like Sorceror or Wizard or something, but then one of those two classes WOULD have really required it to be Ma-jutsushi. Any instances of Protection Art User, should be Guardian Magician to fit in theme with the whole fantasy world setting and knight/wizard entourage. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 17:05, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

== Soldat ==

エレクトロゾルダート is Elektrosoldat because it is a German word, and in German ''''s' before a vowel is read as English 'z'''' (http://joycep.myweb.port.ac.uk/pronounce/consons.html). Are we sure that it has German reading here as well? Any others with German names in his party? [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 11:40, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

Oh, actually knew that. Guess I'm just tired. My bad. And I don't think it's a matter of his party being German themed; it's probably just because Backscratcher is an otaku, and so knows of Elektrosoldat (the character). His party and clan are lightning themed.

EDIT: Incidentally even googled this beforehand, so dunno what on earth I was thinking when I wrote that.

"...ゾルダート」の小説を読む. '''ゾルダート(Soldat)とは、ドイツ語で｢兵士、軍人｣の意である。''' pixivでは主に｢ｱｰｲ!｣ことエレクトロゾルダートの絵につけられることが多いタグ。 ... pixivに投稿された作品 pixivで「ゾルダート」のイラストを見る · テスト; ゾル; ゆっくりし ..."
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 11:56, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

== Trev_lite's Standardization ==
Moved stuff to a different page since it will get long fast.
[[Trev_lite:Mushoku_Tensei_Terminology]]

Future stuff:
* Race and Tribe (awaiting final decision)
* ""s and []s (will hold off on this one since it will be a lot of work)
* Ariel's attendants' names (awaiting final decision)
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 05:30, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

Discussion and requests go here:

== King or Emperor ? ==

Since we are using "Saint" for magical/skill levels and "God" for the highest magical/skill level than i would prefer we stick to one.

I personally favour "Emperor" rather then "king".

Onizuka-GTO 21:51, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Gonna sneak this in real quick to avoid some confusion.
Ranks as it appears in vol.1 ch.3 in webnovel. 級 = Rank/Grade/Class

初級、Beginner (Elementary)

中級、Middle (Intermediate)

上級、Upper (Advanced)

聖級、Expert (Saint) <-- this kanji has 2+ reads, common are: Hijiri - (Master/Expert) and Sei - (Saint/Holy)

王級、King

帝級、Emperor

神級。God

--[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 22:24, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Due to the often used double meanings in regards to holy/saintliness/sages I think it should remain Saint rather than Master/Expert. Emperor and King are two separate levels though as Skui said, with Emperor being one level above King. On the lower end I'm more of a fan of Elementary, Intermediate, and Advanced. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 23:41, 4 August 2014 (CDT)

Perfect. Lets go with the above.

Onizuka-GTO 00:59, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Incidentally, just the kanji itself has the connotation of expert, even disregarding on/kun reading uses. In the past they did use the 'term' 剣聖 after all. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 01:29, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I also noticed that about 聖級. By convention 剣聖/kensei would be translated now as "Sword Saint" but if you look that up in a dictionary there's an established translation, "master swordsman", and I think that's very close to what the author intended when, for example, he used it in the first Eris side story chapter. I believe that this probably happened because previous generations of Japanese attempted to figure out Western equivalents for Japanese cultural terms, and they ended up with religious words. --[[User:Myopius|Myopius]] ([[User talk:Myopius|talk]]) 09:11, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== Magic or Demon ==

Should magic race/continent be considered the official translation over demon race/continent.
If so it should be added to the terminology page.
I will do the conversion of the chapters once it is added.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 22:41, 4 August 2014 (CDT)

Considering the author's background and Rudeus' background, I would wager that Demon Continent and Demon Race are closer to the intended meaning. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 01:24, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I'm of the same opinion and though I was using Magic to match the stuff up when I started on volume 3 with Silent, I've hesitated over it a lot (which is why it's edited as Demon on the map chapters). I think Demon makes the most sense... though in theory both work... There's always them Magic Lord/Kings after all.. though you don't hear about them often. I'll leave this one to someone else to decide. Magic Lord/King vs Demon Lord/King which makes more sense. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 01:43, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

How does the issue of the Magic/Demon race/continent/language (Roxy as an example) compare to the issue of the Demon/Devil King/Emperor/God (Badigadi and Laplace as an example)?
Also is there a difference in kanji between Demon God (Laplace), Demon God (Language) and Demon God (of mythology)?
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:50, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Demon King/Lord are preference based Vanant and I use different ones but they refer to local region lords/kings in Demon Continent (Mao/Maou). Demon God(Majin) is a title similar to Dragon God/Human God/Sea God/Beast God, those are limited to one being, and at least in one case are known to be titles passed down by some unknown standard. The only Demon God ever specifically mentioned is Laplace. Though the way it is in the context is that he "inherited" that when he was born. The more confusing one is Kishirika Kishirisu, she uses Makai Mikado which would be Demon/Underworld/Hell Emperor/Empress, about the only case of that usage. Ma = Demon/Magic, the Demon/Magic God = Majin, all the languages except human language, are referred to by their Gods language, IE Demon God Language, Beast God Language, Fighting God Language, Sea God Language, only human language isn't referred to as Human God Language. Devil is generally only used when making one out to be evil or more evil for some purpose. Humans call the Supard races devils/demons (akuma), though it can have a similar meaning to Demon Race. Akuma(Evil Demon/Devil) vs Mazoku (Demon Race) --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 02:04, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Also, throwing down some situations where you wouldn't change Magic: Magic Armor, Magic Item, Magic Tool, Magic Circle/Formation, Magic Crystal, Magic Stone, Magic Power, Magic Disturber and general references to magic as magic, like fire magic, etc.. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 02:11, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

魔王、魔界、魔大陸、魔石 etc. are all of 'ma'. The reason I translate some as 'demon' and some as 'magic' is simply because this novel series is heavily influenced by rpgs.

In RPGs, 魔王(lit. 'ma' king) are always Demon King or Demon Lord in English versions.

In RPGs, 魔界(lit. 'ma' realm) is always Demon World or Demon Realm in English versions.

In RPGs, 魔力(lit. 'ma' power) is always mana or prana or MP.

Basically how I do it is look at the context and description of the place/item/whatever and decide if it would be 'Magic' or 'Demon' in an rpg. As you can see above, Kaito does the same, where he considers the context, and decides if it's a strict reference to 'magic', or if it's a general 'ma'(in which case you'd consider precedent i.e. RPGs).

For this reason, the 魔族 are almost undoubtedly 'demon race' because they live on the 魔大陸 which is compared to the 魔界 by Rudy. Incidentally, the 魔大陸 is lorded over by a bunch of 魔王, meaning that it's almost undeniably intended to be Demon Race living on the Demon Continent, lorded over by Demon Kings(Lord is less literally, but absolutely correct in light of RPGs) and a Great Empress of the Demon Realm.

It's for this reason, for example, that 迷宮(labyrinth) is translated as dungeon (despite definitely meaning 'labyrinth' and not 'dungeon' at all).

Edit: I think the main reason that there's even a discussion is because SilentWolfie was too devout a believer, and didn't want to liken Roxy to a demon, but yeah.

And yes, as Kaito mentions, the Japanese makes a clear distinction between 悪魔(devil/akuma, and what they call the Supeld) and the 魔族(demon race/demon clans).

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 09:35, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== Badigadi/Bardy Gardy? ==

Simply put, i prefer "Badigadi"

The other one sounds like a bald cross dressing man in a pride parade.

Onizuka-GTO 00:21, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Hell yes. That's all I have to say. If we're going to use Bardy Gardy, Rudeus needs to be renamed Roux'Deus. If people really have to try and find meaning behind the name just google it there's a legit place in the middle of a desert in the middle of nowhere that no one has ever heard of named Badigadi. It works. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 00:44, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Isn't his name supposed to be two words? BadiGadi, Badi-Gadi, Body Gody, Body Gaurdy, BadyGady, BaddyGaddy ... I have no idea how to romanize his name.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:09, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

His name doesn't have the space in it that others do when they're spaced like Kishirika.Kishirisu. I'm not really one who can talk about kanji/kana/spacing but it always appeared differently than spaced names to me, it's a whole as Badigadi instead of Badi.Gadi. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 01:15, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

The kana listed for his name is バーディ・ガーディ and has the name divider ・ symbol in it. Is this a mistake?
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:26, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Fixed. Someone asked for his name earlier, and when I was typing it in, by habit... [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 01:27, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Ok. I have no problems with Badigadi now. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:32, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

我が名は魔王バーディガーディ！ /End

Possible etymological influences... [http://ejje.weblio.jp/content/%E3%83%8F%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3 Hurdy-gurdy] ([http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hurdy-gurdy definition]), [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bawdy?ref=dictionary&word=bawdy# bawdy] [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaudy gaudy]. --[[User:Myopius|Myopius]] ([[User talk:Myopius|talk]]) 10:33, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== Jinas, Jenius, Jenas or Genus? ==

Lets settle this as well,

I'm just going to go with either "Jinas" or "Jenas"

its just a preference because "Jenius" sounds too close ti "Genius" and "Genus" just doesn't work with me, since i've only just got my head round to "Jinas" as the headmaster(?)...person.
So lets just decide on one and move on.

Onizuka-GTO 01:02, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I am all for Jinas.
I already changed Jenas to Jinas so its less work for me.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:10, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== Paul vs Paulo ==

Requesting the reasoning on why Paul is being changed to Paulo.
(I think it is because the kana ends with a ro, not with a ru (which is a dummy vowel for kanaization))
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 02:03, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I did some research and パウロ and ポール are both kanaizations of Paul.
ポール is used for the modern name Paul, while パウロ is used for the ancient name Paul.
I think the reason is that the form パウロ is borrowed from Portuguese (for names of religious figures).

I think that the name Paul should be used since we refer to Pope Paul as Paul (not the Latin Paulus) and Paul the apostle as Paul (not the Greek Paulos).
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 02:24, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

@Trev, it's not a dummy vowel in this case. Paulo = Paul because the name is associated with the Christian figure, who was first brought to prominence in Japan via Portguese missionaries. A modern person named Paul would write their name as ポール. In the end it's just a matter of taste. I write Paul out of habit, but Paulo is arguably more correct. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 09:24, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== "Mana calamity" or [insert other name]? ==

I've noticed there is two (or three?) names for this event, i forget where i saw it, so i just need some clarification of what this event should be called and stick to one.

Onizuka-GTO 23:01, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

This is another thing the author caused. He calls it at least 3-5 different names. Maryoku Saigai, Teni Jiken, Teni Saigai, Dai Saigai (Log Horizon?), Maryoku Tensai... Honestly, I can't even remember them all, but the reason they're all over the place isn't just a difference in translation on this one... so it would be pretty hard to differentiate. It might even change the meaning, if in one of the political chapters they refer to it as a "disaster" vs "incident" since it was made use of politically.

On the disaster end it could be incident, calamity, disaster, or natural disaster. But, I don't think these should be changed, calamity and disaster are interchangeable but natural disaster and incident are different in the context themselves tensai & jiken vs saigai (calamity/disaster).

Basically the only changes should be: instances where it's referred to as Metastasis/teleport, we should choose one: '''Teleport, Transfer, Shift, or Metastasis.'''

Also, in regards to mana it's up for question whether to leave that as mana or use magic power. '''Mana Calamity vs Magic Power Calamity/Disaster'''. (Both are maryoku saigai in the raws) --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 23:53, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

In case that ^ was confusing what I'm suggesting is basically, if we pick "Teleport", "Mana", and "Disaster".

Then teni jikens would all become "teleport incident", maryoku saigai, would become "mana disaster", teni saigai would become "teleport disaster", the other ones that refer to it as "natural disaster" should be left alone, though if they have metastasis or magic power then change them to "teleport" and "mana" accordingly. Mana vs Magic power, Disaster vs Calamity, Metastasis vs Teleport. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 02:37, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

"Mana", "Teleport", "Disaster" and "incident" Sounds good to me, as long as there is consistency.
Onizuka-GTO 04:06, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

I don't mind using "Teleport" at all, but perhaps we can add something to the terminology page that explains that (what we've been calling Metastasis) is actually time-and-space teleporting? Reaching vol 12, We've learned that the Metastasis Formations cause a time-lag or a natural passage of time while the person using them are being teleported. Metastasis conveys that idea to a degree that mere teleporting does not. It gets confusing, especially in the dungeon chapters where they are doing more "teleporting" of an closer-to-instantaneous nature than cross-continental teleporting, which invokes a perceivable time-lag.--[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 21:01, 10 August 2014 (CDT)

== Roxy "Shisho" or "Master"? ==

Preferably "Master" since we have been going with "Master" or "Grandmaster" for certain titles, so i would like to keep it consistent.

Onizuka-GTO 23:03, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

there was a small talk about it on codebreaker talk page. to quote dark kaito "Just to throw this out as well if you've been changing shishou to master, I'd suggest avoiding it volume 7+, it might get mixed up with how Juli uses the Engrish word Master and Grandmaster to refer to Zanoba & Rudeus later, while Zanoba refers to Rudeus with the Japanese shishou same as Rudeus refers to Roxy. I don't think Zanoba wants you assuming he is Juli's Master (shishou) even though he is her Master. And you don't want to make Zanoba angry."

^
Yeah, Zanoba refers to Rudeus as shisho, and tells Julie to refer to himself as Master and Rudeus as Grand Master.

The way Rudeus refers to Roxy is different depending on when/where he uses it... sometimes it's shisho, sometimes it's sensei, other times it's kami. That one is a bit harder in her regard... I personally think sensei works the best for Rudeus referring to Roxy, I can't specifically remember how I've translated it... but I'd suggest sensei or shisho for Roxy. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 23:45, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I see, it make sense to make a difference from "Master" that is to Julie and "Kami" is given, so lets just settle for "Sensei" then, it's at least something English readers are familiar with that has a martial connotation (Besides "Sifu").
Onizuka-GTO 04:02, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

You can't make it sensei. There's a different in connotation between 'sensei' and 'shishou'. Imagine having both as 'sensei' and then reading the conversation where Roxy tells Rudy to call her 'sensei' and not 'shishou'.

I can understand your wish to simplify things for people with zero exposure to Japanese culture, but it just won't work in some cases, and sensei and shishou are completely different. It'd be like writing all instances of 'oiran' as 'geisha' in a story about Kabukichou. How well do you think this is gunna go?

Also it's just a personal preference, but would it be possible to use 'shishou' (or 'shishō' if you're insistent on looking professional)? [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 06:11, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

Seems like it's more complexed then i though, personally i'm not completely sure what's the difference between a "sensei" and a "shishou".

But i'll take your word for it, lets just leave it at "Shishou" then.

Onizuka-GTO 19:58, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

== Trick God vs Technique God ==

Just opening these up now since I've seen differences here and there. I don't know the kanji/kana but I see it as Wazashin. Technique God, Art God (would confuse the meaning of the waza aspect like that like he's some sort of artistic god), Technique Divinity. Those are how I see this one, but otherwise more input would be good here. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 19:17, 7 August 2014 (CDT)

I think it's meant to be gishin LOL(like 'gishin ni iru'), but anyway, I liked that you picked 'Technique God'. It doesn't have any weird interpretations that Art God might have (dude sitting there painting a fresco OTL) and is really easy to understand. Though someone might think 'wth is a technique god', once they get far enough in, they'll realise it's a perfect name.

Well, if you really aren't happy with it, may I suggest 'Skill God'?

'Trick God' might be taken as a trickster god, or as a god of petty tricks.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 05:03, 8 August 2014 (CDT)

"Technique God" or "Skill God" is fine with me.
Onizuka-GTO 07:42, 9 August 2014 (CDT)

== Fighting God vs Battle God ==

The characters for this one always killed me, we've mostly used Fighting God in every case it came up the language, the seven world powers, etc... but would Battle or War fit the characters better? Up to others, but I think Fighting God has been used in over 90% of instances already so there's not so much arguments for this one. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 19:17, 7 August 2014 (CDT)

I prefer 'Battle God' purely because 'Fighting God' sounds just a little (to me) as a god that's currently fighting. There's no such dissonance when I hear 'Battle God'. What does everyone else think? [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 05:01, 8 August 2014 (CDT)

I like "Battle God" as well.
Onizuka-GTO 07:42, 9 August 2014 (CDT)

== Touki/Tou-ki vs Fighting Spirit ==

This one I'm split on the most. We've been translating it directly as Fighting Spirit until now, but I have to admit it lacks impact as an "ability", when it comes up early on you just get the vague image of "willpower" when it's described as fighting spirit. Whether or not this should be left raw as touki/tou-ki or continued as Fighting Spirit. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 19:17, 7 August 2014 (CDT)

For the record, I support use of 'touki', 1) because I've been indoctrinated by Hokuto no Ken, and 2) because it seems here rather than the meaning of 'fighting spirit', it's closer to 'battle ki'. i.e. a special type of 'ki' (Don't they shoot out touki to use the Longsword of Light? It's just like tenha kassatsu lol), 3) dude who did DxD also translated as 'touki'.

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 04:59, 8 August 2014 (CDT)

I like "touki", also for the reason above@ (DxD!)
Onizuka-GTO 07:43, 9 August 2014 (CDT)

== Rudeus/Ludeus/Roux'Deus ==

Going by the initials he mentions in volume 12 or 13 or something, his name is probably supposed to be Ludeus or Loodeus or something. On the other hand, we're obviously going to do the whole

'''Luu'''deus + '''Shi'''rufi = LuuShi = Lucy

crap anyway, so I don't feel there's a point to changing his name. We're not going with accuracy for this, so it's fine to just change the initials in the story to make it work.

Besides, Backscratcher is Japanese. Who's to say the guy even knows the difference between L and R trololol.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 05:08, 8 August 2014 (CDT)

I think that Loux'Dayuz/Roux'Deus is silly. Rudeus or Ludeus should be used. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 20:10, 23 August 2014 (CDT)

== Race ==
should we stick with Long Ear tribe/race or Elf tribe/race? [[User:Ren|Ren]] ([[User talk:Ren|talk]]) 00:35, 9 August 2014 (CDT)

One of the early on chapters, I think in like volume 4-8 describes all of the races literally and how they are usually described. Almost all of the instances in text they are "described" refers to them as "child race" "long-ear race" "coal-mine race" and ones like those...

Since they sound pretty terrible I suggest going with what they were literally described as by Rudeus in the early volume. Hobbits, Dwarves, and Elves. It's easier to type when translating as well and it actually gets described as that in one of the chapters so it should be fine. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 01:01, 9 August 2014 (CDT)

In the earlier chapters, they came with readings (that read elf, hobbit, dwarf) etc. The same way that they don't keep sticking readings next to 魔道具 and whatever the fuck stone bullet was, they stopped putting the readings next to the elf stuff.

But yeah, 'long eared tribe' is meant to be read as 'Elf'. By convention of most light novel translations, and most of this series, we use the reading for the translation. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 04:41, 9 August 2014 (CDT)

Yes, might as well called these description for what they are.
Just add them to the page then to keep it consistent.
Onizuka-GTO 07:45, 9 August 2014 (CDT)

== Consistency - tou-san/kaa-san/danna-sama ==

I've noticed a mixture of "tou-san" followed by "father" then "kaa-san" but then in another "nephew" and "daddy" and finally "danna-sama".

I would prefer we just stick to english or Japanese romanji, one or the other.

Onizuka-GTO 00:47, 13 August 2014 (CDT)

The same as always with this that's the authors doing switching around so often to cover the vague differences in respect/relationships.

Every so often he throws out Papa and Daddy as a joke in Engrish for Rudeus to refer to Paul, though generally Rudeus refers to Paul as tou-san, and Paul refers to himself as tou-san when talking to Rudeus. There's also the times when they chichi/chichiuya or whatever other spellings to refer to father and such.. the times when father comes up it's usually someone else referring to their relationship, like Gisu saying "your father". Danna-sama =husband/master, and Lilya uses it because she's both a maid and his wife, Gisu uses danna occasionally just to put himself "below" whoever he refers to as it like Rujierudo.

You'll probably notice but in these recent chapters Rudeus has completely switched over from shishou to calling Roxy sensei, that's not an error but it's something he either did consciously or subconsciously probably to refer to the distance between them closing.

I do admit it's a bit of a headache though so if the editors want to uniform them all they can, just saying that's how it is in context. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 01:08, 13 August 2014 (CDT)

As for me, I use kaa-san, tou-san etc. when it's written that way, but if it refers to the concept of father, or if it's the humble (and hence "simple") form (chichi, haha, soba etc.), I'll write 'father', 'mother' and 'grandmother' etc.

Not sure if you're learning JP/reading the raws, Oni, but I hope this explains stuff for you. I'm pretty sure this is more or less what Kaito is doing as well (judging from his previous chapters, and what he's saying above). And yes, as he says, occasionally he does say stuff like 'papa' in joke monologues. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:07, 13 August 2014 (CDT)

Unfortunately, my Japanese reading isn't anywhere to the point that i can read it off the cuff unless it's in romanji, and have a dictionary website out ready and lots and lots of spare time, to which i'm terribly lacking sadly.
So i'm not aware of the word play the author is doing.

But just as Kaito mention, it's become dangerously headaching with all the switching from just reading the English.

So perhaps we can just settle on just a few, such as "tou-san" and "kaa-san" and "danna-sama", "danna" and "ojou-sama"?
There is plenty of English words to describe the different forms of those words and both parents formally and informally.
Such as "old man" or "dad" for informal (perhaps in a way Rudeus and paul refers to) and when he's trying to sum up the dignity of a male parent its more suited to refer to it as "Father".

"kaa-san" as well, lets just refer to it as "mum" or when paul is talking about Zenith to Rudeus it more of a formal "mother".

As for "danna-sama" i guess "husband" is formal enough then "Master of the household" or "Master".

Or as gisu referring with "danna" i suppose "Master" or "Sir" could be used?

I won't even touch the "onii-chan" or the "onii-sama" or "nii-san" or any "-sama" ending, i suppose its better to keep those inconsistency as its already pretty familiar romanji that the readers are aware of, that and there really isn't any english equivalent of "brother" to convey the honourifics nature.

"ojou-sama" can be easily substitute as "mistress" or "lady" depending on context.

Onizuka-GTO 02:32, 13 August 2014 (CDT)

True, true. Honestly it's my personal preference to use as little of these as possible, but during my time practising chapters concurrent to Kaito's translation, a few people told me that they preferred me to write 'nee-chan' over 'miss', 'onee-san' over 'miss', and 'ojou-chan' over 'miss', and 'jou-chan' over 'little missy' etc., and 'onii-san' over 'mister', so I forced myself to use them and just add little notes to explain the usage.

I honestly find it squirmy and jarring to write though. I can't believe it's come to this (or more like, that people don't do this more often), but can we set a cut-off for how weeaboo our terms of addressal should be?

Perhaps we should first separate shit into tiers, like:

'''Tier 1 [everyone knows this usage]''' 
e.g. Nee-, Onee-, Tou-, Ojou-, -dono, -sama

'''Tier 2 [less people understand this usage]''' 
e.g. Danna-sama (as master), Goshujin-sama (as master)

'''Tier 3 [few people understand this usage]''' 
e.g. Oku-san, Danna-sama, Nee-chan (miss), Onii-san (mister), Jou-chan (little miss)

'''Exceptions due to circumstances''' 
e.g. Shishou, Sensei

And having decided all this, fix everything in one go. :X

EDIT: "Such as "old man" or "dad" for informal"

The "problem" (I don't think it is personally) is that rather than a lack of informal terms, we're lacking in formal terms. 父上殿、父上様、父上、お父様、父様、お父さん、父さん, all of which would normally just be 'father' in English (excepting the first two which are sort of ridiculous, and unless you want to start using shit like 'esteemed father', 'honourable father' and the like). Incidentally, Paul is ...yeah, so if you want, we could just look at what '''has''' been used thus far, which would reduce the problem. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 03:06, 13 August 2014 (CDT)

== Perugiusu (ペルギウス) ==

Would like to suggest Perugius/Pergius → Pelugius (as the standard for all chapters) on account of Pelagius being a real name.

The Japanese text is one kana away: ペルギウス vs ペラギウス.

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 05:14, 13 August 2014 (CDT)

== Ruudo Ronumaa (ルード・ロヌマー) ==

Would like to propose translating the name ルード・ロヌマー and all further instances of the pseudonym ルード as Rude over Rudo, to reflect the long vowel. And yes, I'm aware that it's a word in English, but the professional localisers for FF7 didn't seem to think it a problem to use Rude as a name, but... is it really no good after all? I'm just a stickler for long vowels, and yes, I know sometimes they don't actually matter, but well... [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 05:22, 13 August 2014 (CDT)

B-but... Rudeus+Quagmire= The Evil Wizard Rudemire!!! not Ru-doronuma!!!! FUAHAHAHA!!!! But yeah Ru-do can be Rude, it works phonetically with most of the jokes anyway.--[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 21:30, 13 August 2014 (CDT)

I'm fine with "Rude" but perhaps adding the hyphen or something in between to help differentiate it from the English word would help with the reading? i.e. "Ru-de" or "Ru~de", which will also reflect the Japanese style?

Onizuka-GTO 21:43, 13 August 2014 (CDT)

p.s: We have to find a replacement for the four-tidal symbols, as it's popping translators signatures in scripts! lol.

Oh. I thought we were just going to give up on translating the joke lol. I mean, in the first place noone is going to know that doronuma = quagmire. It's like impossible to make it work in English lol. Rube Ogg. Ruke Wagmyer. LOL

As for the name, I was considering Rüde, since noone in English pronounces ü any different to u, but if there are any German readers out there, they might think the name is リュード or something.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 08:51, 18 August 2014 (CDT)

"Rüde" is acceptable to me as well, just to give some indication that the meaning differ it from the english word (even though everyone will still read it as "rude")
It's enough to give a visual cue.

Onizuka-GTO 20:05, 18 August 2014 (CDT)

== Leo and Jirou/Giraud ==
What name should we stick and use for Leo? Holy Beast, Divine Beast or Sacred Beast?
and was it Jirou or Giraud the name of the armadillo?

I'm not commenting on the title of Leo, Saint Beast might work as well if you want to do a bit of word play AKA Saint Beasts Byakko, but Vanant or Skui would be better for commenting on that. I will stone anyone who calls Jirou as Giraud. Giraud is what you get when you put the characters through a google search, his name is Jirou or Jiro. Dillo and Jirou sound similar in Japanese probably one of the reasons he ended up with that name. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 13:02, 20 August 2014 (CDT)

I will call your bluff, and raise it.

I propose DGhis'KRohxs. The G, s, K, x and s are silent letters. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 16:34, 20 August 2014 (CDT)

== Detoxification or Antidote ==

I think we should really stick with either Detoxification or Antidote magic. though I think when hearing Antidote I only think of it only curing poison [[User:Ren|Ren]] ([[User talk:Ren|talk]]) 04:23, 19 August 2014 (CDT)

== dedorudia/adorudia/dorudia デドルディア/アドルディア/ドルディア ==

Hihi, I was wondering if we couldn't change the 'ドルディア' bit from 'dorudia' to 'doldia'.

Dedorudia → Dedoldia 
Adorudia → Adoldia 
Dorudia → Doldia 

It's just that I think dedorudia and adorudia might be bit of a mouthful, and IMO dedoldia and adoldia flow well (and I personally like the feeling in my mouth when I say them lmao).

Just a request.

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 13:24, 22 August 2014 (CDT)

== Dear Any-editors-with-nothing-better-to-do ==

I've just put in furigana versions for the spells, races, and items that have them.

These are the way they would be in a published version of the book, so please do go through Volume 1~19 and find any instances of these spells and items and replace them with the furigana versions that the '''great I''' have provided.

'''The race replacements''' will need more than haphazard ctrl+h or whatever, as they '''rely on context, and will need a more dedicated editor.'''

'''Guidelines''' for the use of the race '''have been given''' in three easy to understand examples.

お願いしまーす

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 13:33, 22 August 2014 (CDT)

User talk:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-22T22:37:31Z

Trev lite:

User:Trev lite

2014-08-11T03:09:20Z

Trev lite:

A roaming editor. 
Current projects:
* Mushoku Tensei [[Trev_lite:Mushoku Tensei Terminology]]
* Kindle Support

Mushoku Tensei Status:
* Reference clean up: chapter 63.5 (on hold)
* Terminology clean up: chapter 17

Timespamp: --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 22:09, 10 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-11T03:00:11Z

Trev lite: /* Titles: Emperor */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> (the) elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> (the) intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> (the) advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> (the) saint rank(ed)
* King -> (the) king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> (the) emperor rank(ed)
* God -> (the) god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana

===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Magic Titles ====
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (a) Fire-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (a) Earth-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (a) Wind-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (a) Fire-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (a) Earth-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (a) Wind-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a/the) Fire-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a/the) Water-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a/the) Earth-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a/the) Wind-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> (a) Magic Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)
* antidote healer -> (a) Antidote Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)

==== Magic Ranks ====
===== Magic Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (the) Fire-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (the) Earth-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (the) Wind-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (the) Fire-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (the) Earth-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (the) Wind-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (the) Fire-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (the) Earth-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (the) Wind-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (the) Fire-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (the) Earth-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (the) Wind-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Titles ====
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: King =====
* Sword King -> (a) Sword-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (a) North-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Emperor =====
* Sword Emperor -> (a) Sword-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (a) North-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Ranks ====
===== Sword Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Sword Saint -> (the) Sword-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (the) North-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Sword King -> (the) Sword-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (the) North-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Sword Emperor -> (the) Sword-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (the) North-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Worlds =====
* The human world
* The demon world
* The dragon world
* The beast world
* The sea world
* The heaven world
* The void world
===== Gods =====
* Human God -> (the) Human-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Dragon God -> (the) Dragon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Beast God -> (the) Beast-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God -> (the) Sea-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Heaven God -> (the) Heaven-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Void God -> (the) Void-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Titles: God =====
* (the) Human-God Hitogami
* (the) Demon-God Laplace
* (the) Dragon-God Orsted

===== Titles: Emperor =====
* Magic/Devil Emperor -> (the/a) Demon-Emperor
* (The) Demon World's Great Emperor Kishirika (unique title)
* Dragon Emperor -> (the/a) Dragon-Emperor

===== Title: King =====
* Magic/Devil King -> (a) Demon-King
* Dragon King -> (a) Dragon-King
===== Title: Lord =====
* Magic/Devil Lord -> (a) Demon-Lord
===== Continents =====
* Grand Continent -> (the) Grand continent (former)
* Central Continent -> (the) Central continent
* Milis Continent -> (the) Milis continent
* Heaven Continent -> (the) Heaven continent
* Begaritt Continent -> (the) Begaritto continent
* Magic Continent -> (the) Demon continent

===== Languages =====
* Human Language -> (the) human language
* Beast God Language -> (the) Beast-God language
* Heaven God Language -> (the) Heaven-God language
* Fighting God Language -> (the) Fighting-God language
* Magic God Language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God Language -> (the) Sea-God language
===== Races =====
* Human race -> (the) human race
* Magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* Beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
* Sea race -> (the) sea race
* Heaven race -> (the) heaven race
* Dragon race -> (the) dragon race
* Void race -> (the) void race
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 

=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
===== Capitalization =====
* a sensei, the senpai, my shishou (regular noun: lowercase)
* used the word Sensei, called him Senpai, doesn't like Shishou (mentioned the word: uppercase)
* Sensei did, need Senpai, get Shishou (title: uppercase)
* Rudeus-sensei, Fitts-senpai, Roxy-shishou (suffix: lowercase)
* Sensei Rudeus, My Senpai Fitts, The Shishou Roxy (prefix: uppercase)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-11T02:55:46Z

Trev lite: /* Capitalization */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> (the) elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> (the) intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> (the) advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> (the) saint rank(ed)
* King -> (the) king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> (the) emperor rank(ed)
* God -> (the) god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana

===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Magic Titles ====
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (a) Fire-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (a) Earth-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (a) Wind-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (a) Fire-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (a) Earth-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (a) Wind-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a/the) Fire-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a/the) Water-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a/the) Earth-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a/the) Wind-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> (a) Magic Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)
* antidote healer -> (a) Antidote Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)

==== Magic Ranks ====
===== Magic Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (the) Fire-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (the) Earth-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (the) Wind-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (the) Fire-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (the) Earth-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (the) Wind-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (the) Fire-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (the) Earth-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (the) Wind-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (the) Fire-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (the) Earth-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (the) Wind-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Titles ====
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: King =====
* Sword King -> (a) Sword-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (a) North-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Emperor =====
* Sword Emperor -> (a) Sword-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (a) North-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Ranks ====
===== Sword Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Sword Saint -> (the) Sword-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (the) North-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Sword King -> (the) Sword-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (the) North-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Sword Emperor -> (the) Sword-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (the) North-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Worlds =====
* The human world
* The demon world
* The dragon world
* The beast world
* The sea world
* The heaven world
* The void world
===== Gods =====
* Human God -> (the) Human-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Dragon God -> (the) Dragon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Beast God -> (the) Beast-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God -> (the) Sea-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Heaven God -> (the) Heaven-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Void God -> (the) Void-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Titles: God =====
* (the) Human-God Hitogami
* (the) Demon-God Laplace
* (the) Dragon-God Orsted

===== Titles: Emperor =====
* Magic/Devil Emperor -> (the/a) Demon-Emperor
* Demon Worlds's Great Emperor Kishirika (unique title)
* Dragon Emperor -> (the/a) Dragon-Emperor
===== Title: King =====
* Magic/Devil King -> (a) Demon-King
* Dragon King -> (a) Dragon-King
===== Title: Lord =====
* Magic/Devil Lord -> (a) Demon-Lord
===== Continents =====
* Grand Continent -> (the) Grand continent (former)
* Central Continent -> (the) Central continent
* Milis Continent -> (the) Milis continent
* Heaven Continent -> (the) Heaven continent
* Begaritt Continent -> (the) Begaritto continent
* Magic Continent -> (the) Demon continent

===== Languages =====
* Human Language -> (the) human language
* Beast God Language -> (the) Beast-God language
* Heaven God Language -> (the) Heaven-God language
* Fighting God Language -> (the) Fighting-God language
* Magic God Language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God Language -> (the) Sea-God language
===== Races =====
* Human race -> (the) human race
* Magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* Beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
* Sea race -> (the) sea race
* Heaven race -> (the) heaven race
* Dragon race -> (the) dragon race
* Void race -> (the) void race
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 

=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
===== Capitalization =====
* a sensei, the senpai, my shishou (regular noun: lowercase)
* used the word Sensei, called him Senpai, doesn't like Shishou (mentioned the word: uppercase)
* Sensei did, need Senpai, get Shishou (title: uppercase)
* Rudeus-sensei, Fitts-senpai, Roxy-shishou (suffix: lowercase)
* Sensei Rudeus, My Senpai Fitts, The Shishou Roxy (prefix: uppercase)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-11T02:55:28Z

Trev lite: /* Honorifics and Titles */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> (the) elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> (the) intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> (the) advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> (the) saint rank(ed)
* King -> (the) king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> (the) emperor rank(ed)
* God -> (the) god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana

===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Magic Titles ====
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (a) Fire-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (a) Earth-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (a) Wind-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (a) Fire-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (a) Earth-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (a) Wind-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a/the) Fire-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a/the) Water-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a/the) Earth-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a/the) Wind-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> (a) Magic Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)
* antidote healer -> (a) Antidote Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)

==== Magic Ranks ====
===== Magic Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (the) Fire-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (the) Earth-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (the) Wind-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (the) Fire-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (the) Earth-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (the) Wind-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (the) Fire-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (the) Earth-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (the) Wind-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (the) Fire-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (the) Earth-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (the) Wind-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Titles ====
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: King =====
* Sword King -> (a) Sword-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (a) North-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Emperor =====
* Sword Emperor -> (a) Sword-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (a) North-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Ranks ====
===== Sword Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Sword Saint -> (the) Sword-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (the) North-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Sword King -> (the) Sword-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (the) North-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Sword Emperor -> (the) Sword-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (the) North-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Worlds =====
* The human world
* The demon world
* The dragon world
* The beast world
* The sea world
* The heaven world
* The void world
===== Gods =====
* Human God -> (the) Human-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Dragon God -> (the) Dragon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Beast God -> (the) Beast-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God -> (the) Sea-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Heaven God -> (the) Heaven-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Void God -> (the) Void-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Titles: God =====
* (the) Human-God Hitogami
* (the) Demon-God Laplace
* (the) Dragon-God Orsted

===== Titles: Emperor =====
* Magic/Devil Emperor -> (the/a) Demon-Emperor
* Demon Worlds's Great Emperor Kishirika (unique title)
* Dragon Emperor -> (the/a) Dragon-Emperor
===== Title: King =====
* Magic/Devil King -> (a) Demon-King
* Dragon King -> (a) Dragon-King
===== Title: Lord =====
* Magic/Devil Lord -> (a) Demon-Lord
===== Continents =====
* Grand Continent -> (the) Grand continent (former)
* Central Continent -> (the) Central continent
* Milis Continent -> (the) Milis continent
* Heaven Continent -> (the) Heaven continent
* Begaritt Continent -> (the) Begaritto continent
* Magic Continent -> (the) Demon continent

===== Languages =====
* Human Language -> (the) human language
* Beast God Language -> (the) Beast-God language
* Heaven God Language -> (the) Heaven-God language
* Fighting God Language -> (the) Fighting-God language
* Magic God Language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God Language -> (the) Sea-God language
===== Races =====
* Human race -> (the) human race
* Magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* Beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
* Sea race -> (the) sea race
* Heaven race -> (the) heaven race
* Dragon race -> (the) dragon race
* Void race -> (the) void race
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 

=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
===== Capitalization =====
* a sensei, the senpai, my shishou (regular noun: lowercase)
* used the word Sensei, called him Senpai, doesn't like Shishou (mentioned the word: uppercase)
* Sensei did, need Senpai, get Shishou (title: uppercase)
* Rudeus-sensei, Fitts-senpai, Roxy-shishou (suffix: lowercase)
* Sensei Rudeus, My Senpai Fitts, The Shishou Roxy (prefix: uppercase
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-11T02:48:03Z

Trev lite: /* Continents */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> (the) elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> (the) intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> (the) advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> (the) saint rank(ed)
* King -> (the) king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> (the) emperor rank(ed)
* God -> (the) god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana

===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Magic Titles ====
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (a) Fire-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (a) Earth-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (a) Wind-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (a) Fire-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (a) Earth-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (a) Wind-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a/the) Fire-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a/the) Water-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a/the) Earth-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a/the) Wind-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> (a) Magic Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)
* antidote healer -> (a) Antidote Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)

==== Magic Ranks ====
===== Magic Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (the) Fire-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (the) Earth-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (the) Wind-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (the) Fire-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (the) Earth-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (the) Wind-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (the) Fire-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (the) Earth-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (the) Wind-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (the) Fire-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (the) Earth-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (the) Wind-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Titles ====
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: King =====
* Sword King -> (a) Sword-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (a) North-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Emperor =====
* Sword Emperor -> (a) Sword-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (a) North-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Ranks ====
===== Sword Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Sword Saint -> (the) Sword-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (the) North-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Sword King -> (the) Sword-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (the) North-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Sword Emperor -> (the) Sword-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (the) North-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Worlds =====
* The human world
* The demon world
* The dragon world
* The beast world
* The sea world
* The heaven world
* The void world
===== Gods =====
* Human God -> (the) Human-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Dragon God -> (the) Dragon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Beast God -> (the) Beast-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God -> (the) Sea-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Heaven God -> (the) Heaven-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Void God -> (the) Void-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Titles: God =====
* (the) Human-God Hitogami
* (the) Demon-God Laplace
* (the) Dragon-God Orsted

===== Titles: Emperor =====
* Magic/Devil Emperor -> (the/a) Demon-Emperor
* Demon Worlds's Great Emperor Kishirika (unique title)
* Dragon Emperor -> (the/a) Dragon-Emperor
===== Title: King =====
* Magic/Devil King -> (a) Demon-King
* Dragon King -> (a) Dragon-King
===== Title: Lord =====
* Magic/Devil Lord -> (a) Demon-Lord
===== Continents =====
* Grand Continent -> (the) Grand continent (former)
* Central Continent -> (the) Central continent
* Milis Continent -> (the) Milis continent
* Heaven Continent -> (the) Heaven continent
* Begaritt Continent -> (the) Begaritto continent
* Magic Continent -> (the) Demon continent

===== Languages =====
* Human Language -> (the) human language
* Beast God Language -> (the) Beast-God language
* Heaven God Language -> (the) Heaven-God language
* Fighting God Language -> (the) Fighting-God language
* Magic God Language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God Language -> (the) Sea-God language
===== Races =====
* Human race -> (the) human race
* Magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* Beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
* Sea race -> (the) sea race
* Heaven race -> (the) heaven race
* Dragon race -> (the) dragon race
* Void race -> (the) void race
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 

=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-11T02:46:57Z

Trev lite: /* Gods */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> (the) elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> (the) intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> (the) advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> (the) saint rank(ed)
* King -> (the) king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> (the) emperor rank(ed)
* God -> (the) god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana

===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Magic Titles ====
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (a) Fire-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (a) Earth-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (a) Wind-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (a) Fire-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (a) Earth-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (a) Wind-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a/the) Fire-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a/the) Water-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a/the) Earth-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a/the) Wind-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> (a) Magic Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)
* antidote healer -> (a) Antidote Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)

==== Magic Ranks ====
===== Magic Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (the) Fire-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (the) Earth-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (the) Wind-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (the) Fire-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (the) Earth-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (the) Wind-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (the) Fire-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (the) Earth-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (the) Wind-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (the) Fire-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (the) Earth-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (the) Wind-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Titles ====
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: King =====
* Sword King -> (a) Sword-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (a) North-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Emperor =====
* Sword Emperor -> (a) Sword-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (a) North-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Ranks ====
===== Sword Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Sword Saint -> (the) Sword-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (the) North-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Sword King -> (the) Sword-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (the) North-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Sword Emperor -> (the) Sword-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (the) North-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Worlds =====
* The human world
* The demon world
* The dragon world
* The beast world
* The sea world
* The heaven world
* The void world
===== Gods =====
* Human God -> (the) Human-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Dragon God -> (the) Dragon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Beast God -> (the) Beast-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God -> (the) Sea-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Heaven God -> (the) Heaven-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Void God -> (the) Void-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Titles: God =====
* (the) Human-God Hitogami
* (the) Demon-God Laplace
* (the) Dragon-God Orsted

===== Titles: Emperor =====
* Magic/Devil Emperor -> (the/a) Demon-Emperor
* Demon Worlds's Great Emperor Kishirika (unique title)
* Dragon Emperor -> (the/a) Dragon-Emperor
===== Title: King =====
* Magic/Devil King -> (a) Demon-King
* Dragon King -> (a) Dragon-King
===== Title: Lord =====
* Magic/Devil Lord -> (a) Demon-Lord
===== Continents =====
* Central Continent -> (the) Central continent
* Milis Continent -> (the) Milis continent
* Heaven Continent -> (the) Heaven continent
* Begaritt Continent -> (the) Begaritto continent
* Magic Continent -> (the) Demon continent
===== Languages =====
* Human Language -> (the) human language
* Beast God Language -> (the) Beast-God language
* Heaven God Language -> (the) Heaven-God language
* Fighting God Language -> (the) Fighting-God language
* Magic God Language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God Language -> (the) Sea-God language
===== Races =====
* Human race -> (the) human race
* Magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* Beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
* Sea race -> (the) sea race
* Heaven race -> (the) heaven race
* Dragon race -> (the) dragon race
* Void race -> (the) void race
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 

=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-11T02:42:24Z

Trev lite: /* Races, Languages, Gods and Continents */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> (the) elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> (the) intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> (the) advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> (the) saint rank(ed)
* King -> (the) king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> (the) emperor rank(ed)
* God -> (the) god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana

===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Magic Titles ====
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (a) Fire-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (a) Earth-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (a) Wind-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (a) Fire-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (a) Earth-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (a) Wind-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a/the) Fire-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a/the) Water-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a/the) Earth-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a/the) Wind-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> (a) Magic Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)
* antidote healer -> (a) Antidote Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)

==== Magic Ranks ====
===== Magic Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (the) Fire-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (the) Earth-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (the) Wind-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (the) Fire-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (the) Earth-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (the) Wind-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (the) Fire-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (the) Earth-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (the) Wind-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (the) Fire-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (the) Earth-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (the) Wind-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Titles ====
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: King =====
* Sword King -> (a) Sword-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (a) North-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Emperor =====
* Sword Emperor -> (a) Sword-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (a) North-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Ranks ====
===== Sword Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Sword Saint -> (the) Sword-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (the) North-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Sword King -> (the) Sword-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (the) North-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Sword Emperor -> (the) Sword-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (the) North-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Worlds =====
* The human world
* The demon world
* The dragon world
* The beast world
* The sea world
* The heaven world
* The void world
===== Gods =====
* Human God -> (the) Human-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Dragon God -> (the) Dragon-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Beast God -> (the) Beast-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God -> (the) Sea-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Heaven God -> (the) Heaven-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Void God -> (the) Void-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Titles: Emperor =====
* Magic/Devil Emperor -> (the/a) Demon-Emperor
* Demon Worlds's Great Emperor Kishirika (unique title)
* Dragon Emperor -> (the/a) Dragon-Emperor
===== Title: King =====
* Magic/Devil King -> (a) Demon-King
* Dragon King -> (a) Dragon-King
===== Title: Lord =====
* Magic/Devil Lord -> (a) Demon-Lord
===== Continents =====
* Central Continent -> (the) Central continent
* Milis Continent -> (the) Milis continent
* Heaven Continent -> (the) Heaven continent
* Begaritt Continent -> (the) Begaritto continent
* Magic Continent -> (the) Demon continent
===== Languages =====
* Human Language -> (the) human language
* Beast God Language -> (the) Beast-God language
* Heaven God Language -> (the) Heaven-God language
* Fighting God Language -> (the) Fighting-God language
* Magic God Language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Sea God Language -> (the) Sea-God language
===== Races =====
* Human race -> (the) human race
* Magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* Beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
* Sea race -> (the) sea race
* Heaven race -> (the) heaven race
* Dragon race -> (the) dragon race
* Void race -> (the) void race
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 

=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite

2014-08-10T07:43:31Z

Trev lite:

A roaming editor. 
Current projects:
* Mushoku Tensei [[Trev_lite:Mushoku Tensei Terminology]]
* Kindle Support

Mushoku Tensei Status:
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Timespamp: --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 02:43, 10 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T06:36:59Z

Trev lite: /* Magic Titles: Healing Magic */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> (the) elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> (the) intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> (the) advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> (the) saint rank(ed)
* King -> (the) king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> (the) emperor rank(ed)
* God -> (the) god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana

===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Magic Titles ====
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (a) Fire-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (a) Earth-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (a) Wind-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (a) Fire-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (a) Earth-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (a) Wind-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a/the) Fire-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a/the) Water-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a/the) Earth-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a/the) Wind-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> (a) Magic Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)
* antidote healer -> (a) Antidote Healer (only capitalized when used as a title)

==== Magic Ranks ====
===== Magic Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (the) Fire-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (the) Earth-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (the) Wind-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (the) Fire-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (the) Earth-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (the) Wind-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (the) Fire-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (the) Earth-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (the) Wind-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (the) Fire-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (the) Earth-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (the) Wind-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Titles ====
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: King =====
* Sword King -> (a) Sword-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (a) North-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Emperor =====
* Sword Emperor -> (a) Sword-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (a) North-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Ranks ====
===== Sword Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Sword Saint -> (the) Sword-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (the) North-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Sword King -> (the) Sword-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (the) North-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Sword Emperor -> (the) Sword-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (the) North-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T06:20:59Z

Trev lite: /* Magic Titles */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> (the) elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> (the) intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> (the) advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> (the) saint rank(ed)
* King -> (the) king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> (the) emperor rank(ed)
* God -> (the) god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana

===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Magic Titles ====
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (a) Fire-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (a) Earth-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (a) Wind-King Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (a) Fire-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (a) Earth-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (a) Wind-Emperor Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a/the) Fire-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a/the) Water-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a/the) Earth-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a/the) Wind-God Ranked magician (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> (a) Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> (a) Antidote Healer

==== Magic Ranks ====
===== Magic Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (the) Fire-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (the) Earth-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (the) Wind-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (the) Fire-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (the) Earth-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (the) Wind-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (the) Fire-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (the) Earth-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (the) Wind-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (the) Fire-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (the) Earth-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (the) Wind-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Titles ====
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: King =====
* Sword King -> (a) Sword-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (a) North-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Emperor =====
* Sword Emperor -> (a) Sword-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (a) North-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Ranks ====
===== Sword Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Sword Saint -> (the) Sword-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (the) North-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Sword King -> (the) Sword-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (the) North-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Sword Emperor -> (the) Sword-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (the) North-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T06:12:35Z

Trev lite: /* Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> (the) elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> (the) intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> (the) advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> (the) saint rank(ed)
* King -> (the) king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> (the) emperor rank(ed)
* God -> (the) god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana

===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Magic Titles ====
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (a) Fire-King Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (a) Earth-King Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (a) Wind-King Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (a) Fire-Emperor Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (a) Earth-Emperor Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (a) Wind-Emperor Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a/the) Fire-God Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a/the) Water-God Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a/the) Earth-God Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a/the) Wind-God Ranked (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

==== Magic Ranks ====
===== Magic Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (the) Fire-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (the) Earth-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (the) Wind-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Fire King -> (the) Fire-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth King -> (the) Earth-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind King -> (the) Wind-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Fire Emperor -> (the) Fire-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Emperor -> (the) Earth-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Emperor -> (the) Wind-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (the) Fire-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (the) Earth-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (the) Wind-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Titles ====
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: King =====
* Sword King -> (a) Sword-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (a) Water-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (a) North-King (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Emperor =====
* Sword Emperor -> (a) Sword-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (a) Water-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (a) North-Emperor (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)

==== Sword Ranks ====
===== Sword Ranks: Saint Ranked =====
* Sword Saint -> (the) Sword-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (the) Water-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (the) North-Saint rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: King Ranked =====
* Sword King -> (the) Sword-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water King -> (the) Water-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North King -> (the) North-King rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: Emperor Ranked =====
* Sword Emperor -> (the) Sword-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Emperor -> (the) Water-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Emperor -> (the) North-Emperor rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Ranks: God Ranked =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God rank(ed) (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:59:24Z

Trev lite: /* Magic and Sword ranks */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed)
* King -> king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> emperor rank(ed)
* God -> god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:57:44Z

Trev lite: /* Magic and Sword ranks */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed)
* King -> king rank(ed)
* Emperor -> emperor rank(ed)
* God -> god rank(ed)

===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:36:35Z

Trev lite: /* Honorifics and Titles */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:36:18Z

Trev lite: /* Cities and Locations */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
===== Do Not Confuse =====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:35:16Z

Trev lite: /* Cities and Locations */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
====+ Do Not Confuse ====+
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)
 

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:34:32Z

Trev lite: /* Cities and Locations */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
==== Do Not Confuse ====
* Roa (capital of Fedoa region)
* Ranoa (magic university location)

=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:21:11Z

Trev lite: /* Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
===== Attack Magic =====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:20:37Z

Trev lite: /* Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
====== Attack Magic ======
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:20:11Z

Trev lite: /* Magic Types */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic

===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:19:22Z

Trev lite: /* Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic
====== Attack Magic ======
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 

=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T05:18:37Z

Trev lite: /* Magic Types */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
* summoning magic -> Summoning Magic

====== Attack Magic ======
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic

===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic

===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 
=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T04:58:27Z

Trev lite: /* Magic Titles: God Ranked */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
====== Attack Magic ======
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic

===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: Healing Magic =====
* magic healer -> Magic Healer
* antidote healer -> Antidote Healer

===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 
=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-10T04:57:09Z

Trev lite: /* Magic Types */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types =====
* attack magic -> Attack Magic
* healing magic -> Healing Magic
====== Attack Magic ======
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Healing Magic =====
* Healing Magic -> healing magic
* Barrier Magic -> barrier magic
* Antidote Magic -> antidote magic
* Divine Attack Magic -> divine attack magic

===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 
=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite

2014-08-10T04:44:00Z

Trev lite:

A roaming editor. 
Current projects:
* Mushoku Tensei [[Trev_lite:Mushoku Tensei Terminology]]
* Kindle Support

Mushoku Tensei Status:
* Reference clean up: chapter 63.5 (on hold)
* Terminology clean up: chapter 7

Timespamp: --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:44, 9 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-07T01:32:19Z

Trev lite: /* Honorifics and Titles */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types=====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 
=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) <- Master (undo previous change)
* shisho -> shishou
* shishou -> Shishou (as a title or stand alone)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-06T19:56:34Z

Trev lite:

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types=====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (a) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> (the) Sword-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God style -> (the) Water-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God style -> (the) North-God style (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water God -> (the) Water-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
* North God -> (the) North-God (will remove hyphen if asked)
 
=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language (will remove hyphen if asked)
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) -> Master (as a title or stand alone) (on hold, will revert if asked)
* x-Shisho(u) -> Master x (on hold, will revert if asked)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:56, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-06T19:55:04Z

Trev lite: /* Magic Titles: Saint Ranked */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types=====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint (will remove hyphen if asked)

===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God
* Water God -> (a) Water-God
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> Sword-God style
* Water God style -> Water-God style
* North God style -> North-God style
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God
* Water God -> (the) Water-God
* North God -> (the) North-God
 
=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) -> Master (as a title or stand alone) (on hold, will revert if asked)
* x-Shisho(u) -> Master x (on hold, will revert if asked)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 05:23, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

Talk:Mushoku Tensei

2014-08-06T19:52:18Z

Trev lite: /* quotes or brackets */

== Anyone know? ==
Anyone know how to make a new page for this title--Specifically a separate page for the past updates? Thanks. - Endless

create past updates [[User:X-Rates|X-Rates]] ([[User talk:X-Rates|talk]]) 23:11, 17 June 2014 (CDT)

== teaser tag ==
I don't think that this project should has a "Teaser Tag" - I think we should replace it with another tag (After all, it is 'Hosted Project'). --[[User:Yoyoyo5678|Yoyoyo5678]] ([[User talk:Yoyoyo5678|talk]])

== volume 02 last chapter ==

i don't know if SilentWolfie reads this or not, so if someone can tell him to look here please do so.
i've looked over the raws for volume 02 and found out that the last chapter he uploaded is the epilogue and not the "Extra Chapter - Goddess of the Forest" (番外編 - 森の女神). in the raws i have it starts on page 301, right after the Roxy image.

That doesn't appear in the web novel、I don't think. Could it be a published-only chapter? [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 10:04, 8 July 2014 (CDT)

Could someone with the published novels go over volume 1 and 2 too see if anything is missing.
Also could notes be added to were there are changes from the webnovel.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 00:58, 29 July 2014 (CDT)

== Update Questions ==

I'm wondering why is the update keeps jumping around. For example suddenly Volume 16 chapter 5 is out, whereas volume 3 hasn't even finished yet. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate every update there is and feeling grateful to each of the translator. I just think it's not an efficient way to translate distant volume which couldn't be read before we finished reading all the volume before it. Thank you for the translations.

Volume 1-3 are being done by Silent, I helped out starting with going through him, then I decided to post directly to BT, I had already posted partial chapters on a forum of volume 4 & 16, so I just finished those up and posted them here while doing volume 4-5. Then someone else also decided to post his translations for the more recent chapters that he does as they come out daily. - [[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]]

== Volume 4, すれ違い chapter name ==
Would suggest a change to 'crossing paths', since that gives the mistaken impression of actually coming across each other. I wonder if there isn't a more eloquent way of saying "passing by each other without meeting". [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:28, 8 July 2014 (CDT)

: Perhaps the phase "a passing encounter" might work?
: Suggesting they almost met but instead, passed each other entirely.
: Onizuka-GTO 02:55, 8 July 2014 (CDT)

Spoilers: Technically their paths do cross, it's not just referring to one person, but Rudeus runs into Kishirika, and Roxy runs into Rujierudo & Eris. Their routes overlap in the same town as well. So I think Crossing Paths is pretty relevant either way. Mushoku Tensei is surprisingly deep when it comes to double meanings someone mentioned the term Chekhov's Gun to me in regards to that previously. -[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]]

But the issue is that though 擦れ違い has multiple meanings, "crossing paths" isn't one of them. They're all related to ''not'' crossing paths.

For example, 1) walking right past someone
2) having different opinions to someone （意見の擦れ違い）
3) passing by someone without coming into contact with them

The thing about learning languages is that sometimes people look too deeply into commonly used phrases. Though I can't say for certain, I'm of the strong opinion that a Japanese hearing スレチガイ wouldn't ever think of crossing paths. It's used a lot in literature, and it's always a strong focus on passing by each other.

Of course I'll accept your final opinion without qustion, but I wanted to try and convince you first ahaha. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 09:23, 8 July 2014 (CDT)

Hmmm... it's almost philosophical, I get the literal meaning, but I would consider something like getting on trains going in opposite directions of the same station without meeting, both Crossing Paths and Missing Each Other, heck you could even walk right by each other without realizing it in some situations. Maybe "Missed Encounter" would work better. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 09:37, 8 July 2014 (CDT)

SPOILERS: 
Ah, I forgot to mention, but when I first posted this I wasn't thinking of the later chapter with Roxy. (I read a few chapters ahead before starting my practice). I had thought the name of the chapter had actually referred to the boat-construction guild head lol. In an earlier chapter, he was entertaining the delusion of saving a ship-builder's daughter, and then getting into his good graces. In reality he knocks the guy out ahahaha. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 10:00, 8 July 2014 (CDT)

Maybe leaving it would be better just to cruelly give people false hope that they end up meeting there only for them to not? It's a bit too obvious that they miss each other based on the title. Maybe I'm just a sadist. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 10:30, 8 July 2014 (CDT)

== Volume 18 & 19 ==
I'm pretty sure these chapters are machine translated from google though i could be wrong. There are a lot of awkard grammar, tenses and mistakes. Cross checked with google and most of the lines are exactly the same with minor edit here and there. Can someone check them? -[[User:pumkingboyz|pumkingboyz]]

By the sounds of it, the whole of 18 and 19 needs to be redone, which will take a while. There are still small and large mistakes in Volume 3 and 4. Since he's only one guy, Kaito hasn't gotten around to editing them yet. If you can read enough Japanese to skip to 18 and 19, wouldn't it be fine to edit them yourselves? Ah, though it sounds rude on the net, I'm not trying to be aggressive or anything. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 09:15, 8 July 2014 (CDT)

I'm still learning Japanese but i have a basic undestanding of what happenning from the posts in AS forum, I could edit it later for more readability but can't guarantee anything for those muddled up sentence I find. [[User:pumkingboyz|pumkingboyz]]

Why are these chapters even here? You might as well just give people the link to the webnovels and have them paste it into google translate themselves. There is no "editing" to be done; anyone touching those chapters that can spot errors would have to retranslate the whole thing anyway. --Anonymous

To the anon above: cleaned up/partially corrected machine translations are far easier to read than raw output, so they're appealing to the type of people who'd rather read this with Google Translate than wait for a better TL. That said, I think that [http://www.baka-tsuki.org:8080/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1705 this policy] might apply here. P.S. Sign your posts in the Talk pages with 4 tildes (~) in a row. --[[User:Myopius|Myopius]] ([[User talk:Myopius|talk]]) 22:29, 14 July 2014 (CDT)

Thanks for Myopius, and I do full translation for vol 19, as for volume 18, I will leave it for later and do lower volume first. -- [[User:zmunjali|zmunjali]]

I'm currently editing Volume 18 and 19 that [[User:zmunjali|zmunjali]] had given me.

I can't edit Volume 16 since it's practically a mess. Volume 18 and 19 are a little bit better.

I propose to remove the chapters in Volume 18 and 19 who's still haven't been edited.

Those with an "Editing in Progress" tag and "Editing completes" tag shouldn't be removed since I already confirmed it with Zmunjali.

I'm currently editing the whole Volume 17 and will have a TLC with Zmunjali or the other translators after I'm done.

[[User:C0debreaker6|C0debreaker6]] 21:01 22 July 2014 (CDT)

I've added ambiguous and/or plain nonsensical lines from Vol 19, Chapter 1. There's about 30 lines that need TC.

--[[User:DaiZzed|DaiZzed]] ([[User talk:DaiZzed|talk]]) 19:39, 29 July 2014 (CDT)

== Silentwolfies script to wiki ==

Translator Silentwolfies has given consent to copy the scripts hosted on Silentwolfies deviantart website to Baka-Tsuki.

They are available for grammar and spelling correction, original link to the deviantart are to be moved to the corresponding chapters in the registration page for record and accreditation purposes.

I would appreciate any help in this matter, whether you are project staff or not. :)

Best Regards,

Onizuka-GTO 01:00, 9 July 2014 (CDT)

== Chapter names and web novel ==

I think the "Web novel chapter XX" should stay in the names of the chapters, because the text has been translated from the web novel and not the novel, so for example if somebody did TC, or just moved from the japanese novel (or to the novel), there would be some discrepancies.--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 07:53, 10 July 2014 (CDT)

Agreed that's why I added them there when I translated the titles (it was hard to keep track for translating purposes with the different chapter #s as well otherwise). The only ones that don't need it are the first 11 chapters, since it only gets confusing starting from chapter 12 which starts after the prologue of the 2nd volume. For whatever reason it seems like the author stopped using prologues after the 2nd volume. Also, side stories/extras aren't included as chapters according to the authors chapter numbering. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 09:30, 10 July 2014 (CDT)

As previously messaged to Zuruumi, the primary reason i removed them was that the inclusion of two "Chapter XX" within the same chapter title can be confusion from a readers perspective. They rarely care where it's from, only that it is in an clearly marked order. I guess the secondary reason of that it contributed to an already long chapter name to begin with.

However i understand the concerns, to differentiate between published and web sources, so perhaps a compromise?

I proposal attaching a simplified indication, perhaps something like - "[WNXX]" on the end of the chapter title to stand for: "Web Novel XX".

Regards,

--Onizuka-GTO 09:38, 10 July 2014 (CDT)

That works for me. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 09:41, 10 July 2014 (CDT)

== easier to translate. ==

is it easier for you guys to translate this because it is available as a web novel instead of mostly light novel?
let me guess you guys are translating it like this. you have two windows open one for the docs and one for the web novels.

It is mostly because most people are using some tools to help with their translations. Even if you used only a wocabulary for every 1000th word it is much eisier to just copy-paste it than to search for it for 15 minutes. Well it is also truth, that this novel doesne´t use so much of hard kanji, therefore making it much easier to translate than for example Mahouka or Mondaiji (well there it is hard because of the riddles).--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 07:38, 12 July 2014 (CDT)

== TL notes ==
Hello, I just combed through the pages and creates Full Text pages so the epub generator can pull the stuff in.
My question is, how much of the (TL: ---) stuff you want to put in the TL notes and references? everything or just the ones talking about definitions? [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 00:07, 11 July 2014 (CDT)
EDIT: Nevermind I found the answer. One of Onizuka-gto's notes: (editing needed! Reference & TL notes need tagging!)

== Name suggestions ==

I've come up with some romanization suggestions for several names of the cast:
*キシリカ・キシリス -> Xilica Xilis
*アリエル・アネモイ・アスラ -> Ariel Anemoi Asura (this one surprinsingly goes with the Greyrat naming conventions, as the middle name, Anemoi, is the name given to all of the Greek wind gods; to add to it, "Ariel" comes from the name of a wind spirit from Shakespeare's "The Tempest")
*クリフ・グリモル -> Cliff Grimoire
--[[User:Kemm|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm|talk]]) 09:14, 13 July 2014 (CDT)

== Forum for Mushoku Tensei ==

Its about time that the feedback forum is added to the wiki of Mushoku Tensei i believe, so that we can talk about it and share our view points about how things are going. This will be positive towards the popularity of this light novel, that way we can expect that more people will read it and possible some other translators will be interested in it and join the team of translators making us happy =P
--[[User:Trejon|Trejon]] ([[User talk:Trejon|talk]]) 14:48, 13 July 2014 (CDT)

There was already a [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=10166 thread in the Teaser section], so that one should probably be moved/merged into the one you created in the Aux Brigades. I'm just not sure if I have the forum user rights to do it myself... maybe it's time to test it and find out. --[[User:Cthaeh|Cthaeh]] ([[User talk:Cthaeh|talk]]) 15:11, 13 July 2014 (CDT)

If not, i'll do it later today.
ah...please send me the link via email or put it here, i'm afraid i won't be able to remember anything after i wake up...at work.
*finally glad the 4am World Cup is over*
~goes back to bed to wake up again in an hour~
--Onizuka-GTO 16:57, 13 July 2014 (CDT)

Seems like I managed to merge it without breaking anything, so it should be good now (unless you want to put in a poll, which I didn't do because I think the polls are silly). --[[User:Cthaeh|Cthaeh]] ([[User talk:Cthaeh|talk]]) 17:45, 13 July 2014 (CDT)

Thank you. Poll aren't required, because no silliness have been brought up.....yet. :p
Onizuka-GTO 20:22, 13 July 2014 (CDT)

== Raws ==

By the way, I was thinking, whether it is also forbidden to link to raws for this series. It is from understandable reasons forbiden for other series, but as this is a web novel and thus it would break no laws it might be allowed (maybe). Well this is nothing important really, just for my information, as I was considering adding the link to the web novel there.--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 10:02, 19 July 2014 (CDT)

just put the links it the talk section--[[User:Cabman11|Cabman11]] ([[User talk:Cabman11|talk]]) 17:07, 19 July 2014 (CDT)

Linking to raws on the talk pages is also forbidden. A link to the web novel if it's still available on the author's site should be allowed. However, it's usually the case that the author takes the web novel down once it gets a published book. So if it's a copy of the web novel somewhere else besides the author's original posting, then that is still not allowed. --[[User:Cthaeh|Cthaeh]] ([[User talk:Cthaeh|talk]]) 17:49, 19 July 2014 (CDT)

The link Zuruumi makes reference to is the link to the author's site, with no cached copies intermediary. It seems to me that the author has decided to keep the web version due to the stylistic differences and extra info (like the identity of the video wich was the cause of it all being an amateur self-taken video of her very underaged niece bathing). The fact is, the original web version is still up.--[[User:Kemm|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm|talk]]) 06:37, 20 July 2014 (CDT)
:I've just added the link. You can check that it's the official site.--[[User:Kemm|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm|talk]]) 06:43, 20 July 2014 (CDT)
:Rather than saying it is still there it is more like it is still living and getting perriodical updates. It might also be the case, that he is trying to go with the:"Buy the book to support me" approach, which is recently seen so often on the internet. And thanks for adding the link :). I hope it will be helpfull to some people (especially as this is quite easy to read thanks to it being in text format and not images as other raws, thus making to quite convenient for using some tools).--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 10:17, 20 July 2014 (CDT)

== QUESTIONS!! ==

Can anyone tell me how are there 19 Volumes of the Light Novel while there are only 3 volume that came out in the Series Overview section?
Also, are the chapters that you guys are translating are coming directly from the Light Novel or are they just taken from the Web Novel?
Thank you for translating this. [[User:Takatathien|Takatathien]] ([[User talk:Takatathien|talk]])

Yes they are web novel volumes other than the first three which have been published as light novels. Eventually the LN version will come out but generally some of the content will be toned down because the web novel is actually a more raw version. For your other question I'm pretty sure that, up until volume 2's prologue, they are LN translations and after that it is all web novel translation. I'm only guessing but it is on the basis that they only start counting the web novels from there but someone else may correct me on that. I do know that silent wolfie did translate the web novel from the start so it could be that he just contributed those translations. BTW make sure to leave your name next time by writing 3 ~ in a row. 
-[[User:Yascob99|Yascob99]] ([[User talk:Yascob99|talk]])

Thanks, dude! [[User:Takatathien|Takatathien]] ([[User talk:Takatathien|talk]])

The name of volume 11 Chapter 6 is "Maid and Boarding Student - Second Part" but I can't find a chapter with the name "Maid and Boarding Student - First Part" - Please check it--[[User:Yoyoyo5678|Yoyoyo5678]] ([[User talk:Yoyoyo5678|talk]])02:09, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

The mistake was in copy/pasting a previous title format and then forgetting to delete the XXXX part from it, the correct title is just Maid and Boarding Student no parts. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 02:45, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

How old is Rudeus in volume 19 and who can he beat in a duel?--[[User:Mytsy|Mytsy]] ([[User talk:Mytsy|talk]]) 17:42, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

Around 20-21 years old and it would probably be a shorter to list to ask who he can't beat. Which would be most of the Gods, and even fights with Sword God/otherwise. Fights in Mushoku are like rock/paper/scissors. He has opponents he's stronger than but bad at fighting as well. He's pretty strong by that point though through various means. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 18:44, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

== Rudeus rank question!! ==
In volume 19, it was stated that Rudeus can use emperor rank water magic, so does that mean that he is Water Emperor ranked magician?
--[[User:Ren|Ren]] ([[User talk:Ren|talk]])

Rudeus is one step away from become [God] rank in every magic since basically [Emperor] rank magic is combination of basic spell or [saint] rank spell. example in volume 16 Rudeus unintentionally casting [saint] rank water magic, Cumulonimbus. which caused downpour of rain then he lowered the temperature enveloping the village rapidly and cast, Frost Nove[water splash+icicle break] in vast area[entire villae in an instant. later Orstedd said that what he use isn't Frost nova, but [Emperor] Rank water magic [Absolute Zero]

Frost Nova[advance] = Water splash[basic] + Icicle break[intermediate]

Absolute Zero[MASSIVE AoE Frost Nova] = Cumulonimbus[Saint] + Icicle Break[this magic is to loweirng the atmospher in the area]

yeah, he is already [Emperor] rank in every Offense magic

[Saint] in Healing and detoxification

[intermediae] in God barrier

--[[User:zmunjali|zmunjali]] ([[User talk:zmunjali|talk]])

I see that explains a lot.. thanks --[[User:Ren|Ren]] ([[User talk:Ren|talk]])

== Rudeus magic question!! ==
Can anyone tell me the spells rudeus uses and its rank? ex. Water Ball = Elementary rankn Water Cannon = middle rank, Cumulonimbus = saint rank, Absolute Zero = Emperor rank? thanks
--[[User:Ren|Ren]] ([[User talk:Ren|talk]])

There's a large difference between magic that uses incantations and chantless/voiceless incantations. The purpose of the incantation in magic is to set the parameters like speed, rotation, size, shape, etc... There's formula behind those seemingly mysterious spell words and magic circles. However, when you use chantless magic you're directly modifying the parameters with magic power, through making figures Rudeus has learned how to modify parameters of magic that are normally defaulted with incantations, IE shape, and certain other variations that add to power/hardness.

Therefore, a lot of his magic even basic spells gain Emperor level power, or can't be defined as clearly as others. The way he converts Roxy's King class Water magic into a stun gun/AoE lightning strike is similar, breaking down the phenomena then directly manipulating the magic power to cause the same/similar effect with less wasteful casting as in the incantation. For that same reason it's hard to define if he's considered an Emperor class magician, though many of his spells have that level of power, he's not "officially known" as one. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 01:11, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

so that means he is already emperor rank in all attack magic but it isnt known by other people --[[User:Ren|Ren]] ([[User talk:Ren|talk]])

Basically that. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 02:39, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

== Very low Quality? ==

I will need a clarification over this new labelling.

If this is because they are machine translation, then they must be tagged as "preview" to give awareness that they have not been translated with context in mind or that they are a "substitute" in lieu of the registered translated version.

If they are indeed human translated but in a very rudimentary elements then i would rather that the labelling be changed to "'''Editing in Progress'''".

Regards,

--Onizuka-GTO 02:16, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

It's actually a very good idea.

There some readers that's complaining about the poor quality of the chapter. Volume 16 up to Volume 19 that was handled by [[User:zmunjali|zmunjali]] was machine translated with him checking the authenticity from the raws.

I agree with this idea.

I'm already done editing Chapter 1-3 of Volume 17, but I changed many lines since it's inconceivable. I'm just awaiting TLC from the translators.

--c0debreaker6 02:49, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

I've seen mention of including volume 16 in that here and there, but the two volume 16 chapters currently up were done by Myopius and I, as far as I know they're both actual translations not machine read/otherwise. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 02:56, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

In that case, I will be labelling all of Volume 17 with Preview tags and add the "Editing in Progress" labels.

Volume 16 chapters are fine and do not need any additional labelling besides the normal odd editing.

Regards,

Onizuka-GTO 03:34, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

Ooopppss..... that was a mistake.

I got a copy of Volume 16 from [[User:zmunjali|zmunjali]] that was basically messy.

-- [[User:C0debreaker6|C0debreaker6]] ([[User talk:C0debreaker6|talk]]) 19:16 23 July 2014 (CDT)

is volume 19 really translated that bad? don't worry about holding back your answer, I could use this as reference for doing better works.

-- [[User:zmunjali|zmunjali]]

Actually it's what i expected from a raw translation without initial rough editing, but from a readers perspective it's almost liken to a "machine Translation" and it can be hard to reader or understand, especially to non-native english readers. Therefore it is appropriate to draw as much Editing attention to work on these chapters and to tell readers that they are essentially walking on the concrete while it's still wet.
I also think , it will go a long way if you can also add in the Japanese lines on the more "raw" sentences and paragraphs, that way the editors and free translators can help you fine comb and smooth it out and let them help you fill in the content, this will spread the workload and get you moving on to the other chapters faster.

Onizuka-GTO 09:13, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

Hi [[User:zmunjali|zmunjali]]

I'm editing vol 19, chapter 1, and it's... pretty rough. There's a lot of places where I have to link the original text because I felt I might be changing too much.

--[[User:DaiZzed|DaiZzed]] ([[User talk:DaiZzed|talk]]) 19:17, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

Pardon my frustration, but it is vexing to see completion just for the sake of completion. I did a brief rundown of what has been translated so far, and the quality has been inferior to that of plywood. It is very grating to see people just dump words down there, expect the machine to do all the work, and not checking through the results before submitting it.--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping|talk]]) 21:16, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

== About the names ==

I think we should have at least an "official" terminologies for the names... There are times when I idiotically mistook the name "Zanis" as a new character since I was a little drowsy, it was a fault made by myself but seriously, it should have been "Zenith". So, I would like to advice/propose that someone (other than myself) to edit those terms on the near future if spotted... If it's okay with you people/translators and editors. [[User:Oninn|oninn]] 23 July 2014 08:50

You can direct your naming inquiries and discussions to the project guideline page:
[[Mushoku_Tensei_Names_and_Terminology|Mushoku Tensei Names & Terminology Guidelines]]

Regards,

--Onizuka-GTO 04:33, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

== translators ==

thats a poop ton of translators. damn

== Editing issues ==

So after looking through the a few of the volumes I found that there are a lot of sentences that sound awkward.

For example, in Volume 1 Chapter 3 I see this:
"The literacy of Japanese was nearly 100%, but there were many people who were poor in the English language, so there were many people who balked at the idea of going overseas, and they even treated foreign languages as a skill set."

The sentence would sound better if it was rephrased into:
"The literacy rate of Japan was nearly 100%, but there were many people who were in poor in the English language, so they balked at the idea of going overseas and even treated foreign languages as a skill set."

Basically, I'm wondering how much I can change the words and sentence structure when I'm editing. I noticed that translators are worried about changes that remove important information and foreshadowing elements from the story, so I just want to get this issue out of the way now.

--[[User:Sarnik|Sarnik]] ([[User talk:Sarnik|talk]]) 00:54, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

I find that editing acceptable. as long as you do not add any words that can change the contextual meaning of the sentence. i.e. changing English to German etc etc etc.

All you did is change "Japanese" to "Japan" add "rate" and "in" (although i suspect that's a mistake).

Regards,

Onizuka-GTO 01:40, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

Speaking of editing issues, volume 6 is in need of heavy editing.

I'll upload volume 10 chapter 1 "Rough Translation" later and will help with the editing on sunday.. --[[User:Ren|Ren]] [[User talk:Ren|talk]]

== Anyone else excited? ==

Me, Im particularly excited about who he marries and the sister chapter. I like seeing how powerful he gets, but at the same time, I like to see how he cultivates his relationships with others. I think that is where he really went wrong in his past life, thus, is what should be major points in his new life. [[User:Bunnybacon|Bunnybacon]] ([[User talk:Bunnybacon|talk]]) 16:40, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

I want to ask some questions before I started to read this. I read the summary on other website and it said that the story has a Harem tag. Can someone clarify if this is true, and if it is, is he going to marry them all?
Thank you! [[User:Takatathien|Takatathien]] ([[User talk:Takatathien|talk]])

Unlike those typical harem wannabe where the mc can't choose, in this LN the mc married all three heroine. Two childhood friends and his god

I don't want to spoil you or the others who still reading or started.. But you can search in google about rudeus greyrat wiki if you want to find out. --[[User:Ren|Ren]] ([[User talk:Ren|talk]])

If that is the case, then he certainly is living his life to the fullest. I want to live life like him ^.^
Thanks, dude. [[User:Takatathien|Takatathien]] ([[User talk:Takatathien|talk]])

== Machine Translators ==

Can we have all the chapters that were machine translated moved into preview scripts? Editing google translate is not translating; it is editing google translate. [[Special:Contributions/173.248.247.253|173.248.247.253]] 04:25, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

I think we have too much Machine Translators and it might cause to the quality of the translation to be lower.
We should consider Machine translation only as preview and leave the translate job for human translators!--[[User:Yoyoyo5678|Yoyoyo5678]] ([[User talk:Yoyoyo5678|talk]])06:50, 27 July 2014 (CDT)
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I agree , I am just using google since it'll speed up my work , but I'll put it as preview for now , check the quality and decide whether to put it in as an actual translation.[[User:Kazeboy|Kazeboy]] ([[User talk:Kazeboy|talk]])02:35, 27 July 2014 (GMT)

Okay, this is just getting ridiculous. If people can't even take the effort to correct the names on their machine translations, they shouldn't even be allowed to post them. [[Special:Contributions/173.248.247.253|173.248.247.253]] 21:07, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

At the rate this is going, the guys are doing transliteration instead of translation...--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping|talk]]) 21:18, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

== Volume 9 PREVIEW??? ==

I just saw that a PREVIEW for all the volume 9 has been uploaded, and its just a machine translation, but arent vanant and kaito working on volume 9? from what i guess is that just some random user just uploaded a machine translation for all volume 9 since nobody registered, besides vanant and kaito are already progressing with volume 9, so what needs to be done? [[User:Trejon|Trejon]] ([[User talk:Trejon|talk]])

I think the translator is practicing his translation? Not sure if he got permission from the supervisor but yeah [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 15:23, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

Though he has writen on his profile, that it isn´t machine translation... this seriously seems to be nothing else than google translation (or something similar). Anyway, as it is preview and there are other registered translators, I suppose moving it to the right side (only on the preview word) and renaming it so, that there is space to place the regular translation, might be the best way to solve this. I already transformed chapter 2 in the way I think should be appropriate. I think there should be no harm for neither the registered translators nor for the one who did the privews if it is done this way. Well if you don´t agree you may revert it, but if you agree you may edit all the other chapters to this less confrontational format.--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 16:29, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

Yeah don't do that to the ToC page or supervisor will be annoyed. You can do what Zuruumi did and it's fine like that. (FYI too lazy to do what Zuruumi did so if someone can do that..)[[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 17:25, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

Yeah, I share exactly the same problem as you, which is one of two reasons why I did it only to one chapter :) (the other one is, that if someone was against it he could easily revert it). Well if someone a bit more hardworking than I am comes and sees this it would beš a help if he did the rest.--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 18:00, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

Preview scripts are fine, but they must not be on a page with "preview" in the title, to differentiate it from the officially named chapter page.

HI well its correct that machine translation is bad in qualiti but if you use more than one my example is using 6 at the same time by this way you can correct the blind spot of them and the result is similar to human translation --[[User:COTHER|COTHER]] ([[User talk:COTHER|talk]]) 11:04, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

Hi Cother, unfortunately the quality of the translated chapters is nowhere close to human translation. If you use too many at the same time it will destroy the original meanings. Also, it's pretty obvious didn't use 6 because the untranslated kanji and romaji. [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 11:14, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

====Preview Scripts ====
Each preview must have the "preview" tag and i will lock all "preview" scripts on chapters with registered translator.
Onizuka-GTO 20:07, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

Some of the preview chapters have a preview header but the chapter link or title does not indicate that it is a preview. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 00:58, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

== Rename the links ==

I missed this but I hate the way web novels are being linked as if they are published novels. The web novel also does not have illustrations. You have 24hrs to correct this. --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari|Talk]] | ) 19:31, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

Ignoring v1 as im pretty sure that that Tl'ed using the publlished volume, but for the other vol something like this? or couple you provide an example.

Volume 2 - XXXXX 
Published Novel illustration 
Web Novel 11 - XXXX 
Web Novel 12 - XXXX 

As for the images you mean remove from the chapter and placed in the 'Published Novel illustration' or completely remove the novel illustration ? [[User:Pumkingboyz|Pumkingboyz]] ([[User talk:Pumkingboyz|talk]]) 21:08, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

Make a new section for the web novel. --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari|Talk]] | ) 21:22, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

I think Kuroi wants to see something like in [[Log Horizon]] [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 21:48, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

Formatted to something similiar to Log Horizon page but don't i have right to delete/remove the page for vol2-4 in published section and vol 1 in the WN section. Addiionally not sure why Orginal Wn section isn't showing up in the app, probaby something to do with the collapse table but i'l stop here b4 it break even more [[User:Pumkingboyz|Pumkingboyz]] ([[User talk:Pumkingboyz|talk]]) 23:07, 27 July 2014 (CDT)

There's no need to hide anything. How you want to format things is for you guys to decide. What I want is a clear distinction between the translations from published novel and from web novel; and that includes their url. --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari|Talk]] | ) 05:23, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

Really, isn´t the WNXXX part in the name of chapters quite sufficient? Not even speaking about the fact, that the LN is in this case mostly only slightly edited WN. In the first place, the first volume and a part of volume 2 were made from the LN and the rest was translated from the WN, yet there was no inconsistency. I don´t see any reason to complicate things any more than they already are, therefore I don´t see a reason to change it.--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 07:27, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

You can't tell when you're on the page. Link them like so: Mushoku_Tensei:Web_Volume_02_Chapter_01 --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari|Talk]] | ) 07:59, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

So it was a problem with the naming of the pages? so if i removed the WN section, reverted back how it was before but changed each of the individual chapter page like Mushoku_Tensei:Web_Volume_X_Web_Novel XX, that would be acceptable? [[User:Pumkingboyz|Pumkingboyz]] ([[User talk:Pumkingboyz|talk]]) 08:18, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

Since, it's very unlikely that someone will put of a translation of the published version after the web translation is out, I'll make a compromise and we'll just rename the links. My original idea was to have them in separate section and in different naming. --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari|Talk]] | ) 08:45, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

When you mean 'rename the links', do you mean 'move the pages'? Normal users like me won't have that authority right? [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 13:10, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

Changing the link name Mushoku_Tensei:Volume_3_Chapter_1|[WN20] Chapter 1: Swindler Calling Himself God]] to something like Mushoku_Tensei:Web_Novel_Chapter_20|[Web _Novel 20] : Swindler Calling Himself God]], so that the page reflect the link name [[User:Pumkingboyz|Pumkingboyz]] ([[User talk:Pumkingboyz|talk]]) 18:38, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

Yeah but that means we have to move the pages right? This needs administrative privileges right? [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 18:43, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

No need admin rights. --[[User:KuroiHikari|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari|Talk]] | ) 19:16, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

Ohhh thanks Kuroi - I just went to the IRC channel to ask how. Pumking, tell me if you want to divvy up the work. --[[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 21:03, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

sure but i 'm kinda confused now, for example 'Mushoku_Tensei:Volume_3_Chapter_1|[WN20]'
i can rename 'WN20' fine but if i renamed the 'Volume_3_Chapter_1' part, the preview show it as a red link. [[User:Pumkingboyz|Pumkingboyz]] ([[User talk:Pumkingboyz|talk]]) 21:23, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

You'll have to move the page. I'll do one example for that one for you in a bit. [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 21:25, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

Looks like we're done for now? [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 22:54, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

i noticed that if you go through the navi bar, the old page are still there with rediret link, any idea if they need to be updated ? [[User:Pumkingboyz|Pumkingboyz]] ([[User talk:Pumkingboyz|talk]]) 23:16, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

Thanks for all the dirty work, Edit-Slaves. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 23:22, 28 July 2014 (CDT)

== The Machines Have Taken Over ==

This entire project is basically a joke now and some admin needs to purge it. [[Special:Contributions/173.248.247.253|173.248.247.253]] 01:10, 30 July 2014 (CDT)

Man this whole project started perfectly then went downhill to a spiral of badness.Now it looks like one whole choo choo crash.--[[User:Mytsy|Mytsy]] ([[User talk:Mytsy|talk]]) 02:14, 30 July 2014 (CDT)

What are you even talking about? Sure there is one guy with unintelligible text straight from a machine but those are properly put in as previews. The others are pretty fast and good imo.--Random guy

There is only one translator remaining on this project who doesn't rely heavily on some sort of machine process afaik. But sure, if you enjoy Ren, COTHER, zmunjali, and Kazeboy's "translations", be my guest~ [[Special:Contributions/173.248.247.253|173.248.247.253]] 13:12, 30 July 2014 (CDT)

Meh, it's silly to even mention COTHER or zmunjali since they're just a couple of guys who uploaded a batch of machine translations which are previews and being replaced anyway. As for Ren and Kazeboy, I don't know their methods, they're not perfect but a million times better than trying to actually decipher a machine translation, you can actually follow the story from them. Also Kazeboy said he translates from romaji afaik. If you notice some wrong translations or bad english nothing prevents you from helping out and editing it. There are also at least 2 proper translators working on it atm which is easily visible from the registration page. Anyway, not sure what you think whining will accomplish, personally I am happy to not be forced to read ACTUAL machine translations.--Guy

Ren is clearly translating from a machine. One of the lines is the first paragraph he "translated" is almost copied straight from Google translate. The 毒牙に掛かる one. His "translations" should be moved to preview too. And as for Kazeboy, just checking the most recent edit on his chapter, when the story is talking about 下着 (underwear) and you translate パンツ as pants... What you're basically saying is them deciphering a machine translation is better than you doing it. 05:27, 31 July 2014 (CDT) [[Special:Contributions/173.248.247.253|173.248.247.253]] 05:27, 31 July 2014 (CDT)

I think that Skuizaan is the only one who doesn't use machines at all lol. As I've mentioned before, I'm really new to learning Japanese, so there are heaps of phrases that I need to look up on ALC or weblio. Usually even that isn't enough, so I do google searches on how different people on the internet have used it lol. And even that doesn't work sometimes. The dude just uses a lot of 'sound' type words, like 'xxxっと' and a few times I haven't been able to figure out exactly what it means. I'd be really happy if a real translator (experienced JP to ENG plz) took over the whole thing and did everything from scratch, but by now all the real translators might hate us lol. Maybe we should come back after a 6 year time-skip and redo them all with our mad translation powers. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 09:58, 31 July 2014 (CDT)

Shh, it's a secret, but from time to time if certain compound kanji aren't in my kodansha kanji dictionary, I have been known to visit wwwjdic for some clarifications. And have no fear, I'll be more than happy to go over everything, include my own chapters to verify everything is a-ok. Also, if there is ever something obscure or you stumble across some kind of onomatopoeia that you feel needs attention, post it in that chapter's talk page so I can look into it for you. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 11:23, 31 July 2014 (CDT)

Mushoku Tensei has more unique kanji than a typical light novel, so I think it's unlikely that someone (even a native Japanese speaker) will have memorized every single kanji that appears and not have to look anything up. Rather than online kanji dictionaries or rudimentary parsing aids like WWWJDIC or Rikaichan, I think that "machine translation" typically refers to phrase-based full translation services like Google Translate and Honyaku. At least that's definitely how it works in the visual novel translation community. --[[User:Myopius|Myopius]] ([[User talk:Myopius|talk]]) 03:17, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

== Protection LEVEL UP ==

Since the last few days we have had quite a few trolls in mushoku tensei, people writing stuff like machine translator is a god comments in chapters names along with machine translated chapters without even a hint of edition, those that without even asking added themselves to editors and translators, particularly in volume 12. This was notified to Onizuka-GTO, and he managed to fix all the trolls and changed the edition to only confirmed users. Meaning we won’t have trolls anymore. Its sad that we had to come to this but troll users sadly exist :(. Now i think i can speak for all editors that translators using machine translations need to work out their translations better so that the context can be understood and that we editors can fix it and correct any minor mistakes or problems with redaction.
Now speaking of MT users like Kazeboy, he is using machine translations but he is comparing Japanese properly and then after he is done a proper translation he uploads it. Now those translations can be edited since the context is there and exist just some redaction and writing issues. As for Ren and zmunjali, I haven’t seen their work since don’t want spoilers but they can’t be worse than cother. I wouldn’t call what he uploaded even a preview since you can’t make sense half of it, and then expect that editors fix the problem for you, anyone can upload what he did in a few min, so i ask to anyone who uses MT, at least take a few hours of work to do the machine translation properly so it makes sense since editors can’t just guess what its written unless he knows how to read Japanese and read the original text and then fix it but in that case he could be a translator instead. [[User:Trejon|Trejon]] ([[User talk:Trejon|talk]]) 14:07, 30 July (CDT)

Technically I'm a machine translator as well, via converted romaji. I have some issues with certain kanji luckily Vanant and others point it out when it comes up. My only opinion through all this is that when I started it there were no other translators. Wolfie was only going up to volume 3 and after that there were going to be 0 translators. This series deserves more than my bad translations but those are still better than 0 translations for people to enjoy a nice series. I'm glad things have gained interest up to here these past 1-2 months. Thank you, and keep up the good work with the anti-trolling Oni! --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 15:25, 30 July 2014 (CDT)

Oh , I just started reading the discussions. It's well , what to say , some like it and some kicked me so hard :) . Let's put it this way , were there ever anyone who translated fro the start with no mistakes ??? I picked up translation after 7-8 years , my English is sure lacking , my Kanji knowledge is 200 atm , so I am using google's romanji to figure out the context and use 3 dictionary to read the Kanjies I cant read [which are a lot] but am actually translating , sometimes I make mistakes , sorry about that. So I would like it if you helped out , Like [[User:Trejon|Trejon]] after his editing my work looks far better , also I'll start comparing my script against the Japanese text to remove the mistakes such as the one between (underwear and pantsu) , and I just pitched in since I wanted to read the series and share it , if someone else does a better translation [which I am sure there a lot of guys better here , Vantan , Dark Kaito , Silentwolf ... just to name a few] feel free to replace mine :) [[User:Kazeboy|Kazeboy]] ([[User talk:Kazeboy|talk]]) 09:30, 31 July 2014 (CDT)

Some of the translators that I know uses Machine translating apps to do their work and checking for accuracy from the raws.
I even asked them what they think about their first translations, they basically wanted to get it and throw it in an incinerator.
I'm partnering up with [[User:zmunjali|zmunjali]] at the moment for his translations and I can assure you that he's getting better. I asked him about replacing his previous 'machine translated' chapters and he said that he will do it. I ask the readers to be patient since our translators at the moment are mostly new at this. We editors would also do our best to make this series 'decent' to 'better'. All will be solved with a passage of time.

--[[User:C0debreaker6|C0debreaker6]] ([[User talk:C0debreaker6|talk]]) 23:29, 1 August 2014 (CDT)

Hi , I'd like to help with the mushoku Tensei project , I know that there are already a lot of translators that's why I was planing to re-do just the machine translated chapters.
Is it ok ?
If so which chapters should I do ?
--[[User:giorgio wu|giorgio wu]] ([[User talk:giorgio wu|talk]])

Yo , I did re-read and fixed the issues on Chapter 84 , Trejon did the editing along with Marrow [those are the one I know about], I would appreciate it if you guys can have a look and let me know how it looks now. [[User:Kazeboy|Kazeboy]] ([[User talk:Kazeboy|talk]]) 14:55, 1 August 2014 (CDT)

== quotes or brackets ==

Should spoken text use quotes"" or brackets []?
There is not consistency across different chapters.
It seems that brackets[] are used more often.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 00:07, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

The Japanese version uses brackets which is their version of quotes, to identify spoken sentences by the characters.

Since so far it has been mostly brackets, lets just stick to it and go with the flow.

Onizuka-GTO 01:04, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

As one who started out with brackets then switched to quotes, I'm fine with this (It is how the author does it as well), the only thing that needs to be mentioned is to be careful about the difference between ability names in brackets within quotes. The way I usually do it is:

Monologue = Plain Text

Dialogue = Quotes ""

Secondary Thoughts/Deep Monologue (usually something done differently formatting wise on Authors side, these are pretty rare) = Parenthesis ()

Skill/Names/Abilities/Titles = Brackets []

Foresight = arrows <>

The biggest problems would be with the secondary thoughts, skills, and foresight in (), [], and <> already. If they get changed incorrectly it might read out as if he's saying what he sees in foresight or thinks in his head as dialogue. Just be careful of those things when bulk converting. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 01:31, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

This is more complicated than what i thought. I will but this planned edit on hold until my editing skill gains a few levels. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:52, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User talk:Lamaroxy

2014-08-06T19:48:48Z

Trev lite: Created page with "Thanks for helping out with the cleaning up of the references. --~~~~"

Thanks for helping out with the cleaning up of the references.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:48, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User talk:Trev lite

2014-08-06T19:43:00Z

Trev lite: /* * Grayrat to Greyrat */

User talk:Trev lite

2014-08-06T19:40:29Z

Trev lite: /* ""s and []s */

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-06T19:35:38Z

Trev lite: /* Honorifics and Titles */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types=====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God
* Water God -> (a) Water-God
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> Sword-God style
* Water God style -> Water-God style
* North God style -> North-God style
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God
* Water God -> (the) Water-God
* North God -> (the) North-God
 
=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) -> Master (as a title or stand alone) (on hold, will revert if asked)
* x-Shisho(u) -> Master x (on hold, will revert if asked)
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 

=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 05:23, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User talk:Trev lite

2014-08-06T19:34:42Z

Trev lite: /* Shishou */

== Mushoku Tensei ==

Thanks for your work! I did think it was slightly annoying when I saw the names changing from one group of chapters to the next... but could you please mark the changes as Minor Edits? It makes it easier for me (and others I assume) to browse the Recent Changes to see if anything has been updated. Thanks again! --[[User:CrimsonLord|Crimson Lord]] 11:39, 1 August 2014 (CDT)

Ok I will do that from now on. I thought that changing the name of a major character was not a minor change. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:06, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Dear Trev Lite,

Thank you for your contribution, for enquires about what is protocol regarding the names and terminology.
What you see on the name and terminology project specific guidelines,
is the currently accepted forms that when and if there is a conflict of such issue, the ones on that page shall prevail until such point that the project teams agrees in mutual consensus that a change to any on the list should be different.

Once again, thank you for your contribution.

Best Regards,

Onizuka-GTO 01:33, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Thank you for updating the names.--[[User:Tasear|Tasear]] ([[User talk:Tasear|talk]]) 22:45, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Your Welcome. If there are more names to update please ask me here or on the terminology talk page. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:05, 4 August 2014 (CDT)

== Shishou ==

First of all, I don't see why there's a need to remove the 'u' like Kaito sometimes does.

Second of all, I've already discussed this issue with Kaito in the past (roughly 2-3 weeks ago).

Though I previously translated it as 'master' as it carries more or less the same connotations in English that shishou does in Japanese, Kaito brought to my attention the fact that Julie uses the terms 'grandmaster' and 'master', so the two of us agreed that to make a distinction, 'Shishou' would be used.

At any rate, as a term that could be used in martial arts, it's not really too different from the specialised term 'sensei', and I don't think the readers will have a problem. Cheers.

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 06:00, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

I am actually all for adding the u to shisho(u)
For now i will stop my convertion of Shishou into master.
If asked i will revert Master back to Shishou.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite#top|talk]]) 14:34, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

== ""s and []s ==

SilentWolfie did this for his own tastes, but the raw Japanese use the completely normal 「」 quotations marks that you'd find anywhere else.

It's simply normal "".

One thing that should be noted (and is absent from Kaito's chapters due to his romaaji machine) is that chapters where they speak different languages make a distinction with the speech marks.

When speaking in the language that isn't the main one for the scene, he'll use 『』 instead. I've used these as well, but you might prefer to use [] in its place.

Anyway, as I mentioned just now, this factor is absent from Kaito's translations due to his machine, and someone will have to go add this distinction back in. Some notable examples where they use different speech marks are during the Japanese and Human language scene with Nanahoshi, Rudy and Sylphy (their first meeting).

Volume 12's conversations with the Battle God Language and Elinalise's Human Race Language also make such a distinction (two such conversations are the one they have after saving the merchant, and the one where she scolds a warrior).

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 06:05, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

== * Grayrat to Greyrat ==

The standard for this project is American English (which I personally hate, btw), so could you explain the reasoning behind this? [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 06:06, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite

2014-08-06T10:38:39Z

Trev lite:

A roaming editor. 
Current projects:
* Mushoku Tensei [[Trev_lite:Mushoku Tensei Terminology]]
* Kindle Support

Mushoku Tensei Status:
* Reference clean up: chapter 63.5 (on hold)
* Terminology clean up: chapter 6

Timespamp: --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 05:38, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User talk:Trev lite

2014-08-06T10:37:39Z

Trev lite:

User:Trev lite

2014-08-06T10:36:15Z

Trev lite:

Talk:Mushoku Tensei Names and Terminology

2014-08-06T10:30:42Z

Trev lite: /* Standardization */

== Misc ==
http://mypage.syosetu.com/mypageblog/view/userid/288399/blogkey/636576/ <--- Author BLOG character bio page (incomplete + spoilers)

http://ncode.syosetu.com/n9669bk/192/ <--- Map 3 raw page, if you want to figure out location names. I'm still bothered over Milis, Milishion, and Arusu (capital of Asura)

Thanks for making this page, it was needed though I'm not good with these types of translations. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 05:28, 11 July 2014 (CDT)

After trying to find out who Zenisu was, the need for such a page became obvious. Please put any names you stumble upon during translation into it so that we can make it uniform throughout the translations. We still need to decide on the variants, though (i.e. Janis or Janice?) [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 05:54, 11 July 2014 (CDT)

The names here and the names in the "Character Introductions" on the Main Page were written differently. Please fix it. --[[User:Yoyoyo5678|Yoyoyo5678]] ([[User talk:Yoyoyo5678|talk]])

Exact names are not yet stabilized. Usually the first translator to stumble upon one decides on it, but here even the same translator frequently switches from one romanization to another. Feel free to discuss any discrepancies here, so that we can select the best ones. [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 06:06, 11 July 2014 (CDT)
Also, sometimes later information forces to correct earlier spelling. I.e. when choosing between Greyrat/Greyrait, later there is a reference to "mousy family name". [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 06:12, 11 July 2014 (CDT)

SilentWolfie translate Rapurasu(sp) the Demon Lord as Lapius. I think the name is a reference to Laplace's Demon. --[[User:Silereamer|Silereamer]] ([[User talk:Silereamer|talk]]) 02:08, 13 July 2014 (CDT)

I'd like to piggyback on the former comment about the discrepancy for Zenisu being translated as Janice instead of Zenith. The katakana and no less than 4 translation engines spit 'Zenith' out as a solid match. That being said I'll leave my naming contribs here and let you all decide where to go since I'm fielding vol.7 academy arc. Localization of names I'd rather leave to the editors, since they do the polishing anyways. ザノバ・シーローン Zanoba is an ethiopian name and quite common around north africa. No complaints about Shiron/Shirone as the territory surname attributed to him being prince. ギレーヌ・デドルディア Guillain Dedorudia it's a french name, and perhaps an ironic joke, considering Robert Guillain was a french author on works about the nation of japan who was also an eyewitness to the atom bomb drop on hiroshima (sounds like the mana calamity, right?) クリフ・グリモル Cliff Grimoire yet another play on words to his occupation. A grimoire being quite literally 'book of grammar', though this time in an esoteric sense, since he's quite knowledgeable on written magic formations having to do with the nature of summoning magic. ナナホシ should remain Nanahoshi instead of Sevenstar (or variant), at least until any wordplay becomes prevalent, though there is a great deal of mythos in this series dealing with the number 7. アリエル・アネモイ・アスラ Ariel Anemoi Asura is legit. 'Anemoi' is a greek psuedo-deity of the wind, with the lesser chief wind dieties being Eurus, Boreas, Notos, and Zephyrus (the Grayrat branches in the book) カラヴァッジョ　Caravaggio was a 16th century Italian Painter, other localizations of his name also include Caravage. イゾルテ (Izorute) sounds similar to 'Iseult' of Tristan and Isolde fame. A nice story or fast wikipedia read will show similar details in reference to plot involving her character... sort of anyway. キシリカ・キシリス Kishirika Kishirisu - keep the r's and drop the u if it makes it feel easier to the eyes, otherwise it's fine, I think it's personally a play on the word '軋る' Kishiru; which is an annoying sound like a floorboard squeak or the grating of a metal fence post when you swing it open. And considering her FUHAHAHAHAHA she does near every other line she is quite annoying when she's not being useful. (as well as Badi-Gadi and the other Immortal Devil Kings, there is appropriate wordplay for them as well.) For the beasts of the forest of milis continent ギュエス Gaius from the Dorudia tribe is a play on words and also associates with his daughter the dog-beast girl プルセナ Parusena (Lars Porsena, was a king who besieged rome at one point, and had an attempted assassination by a youth named Gaius, even though the youth failed, His bravado caused king Porsena to enact a peace treaty and lift the siege.) ミニトーナ Minito-na (Minnetona) and テルセナ Terusena (Tersena) I haven't found the complete wordplay on yet, so it might just be random, I'll do some looking into it later on if clues arise. 聖獣様 Seijuu-sama Lit. Esteemed Sacred Animal/Holy Beast-sama. He figures quite a bit in vol 18+ because of the importance of ララ (Lara? Lara just fits best in my mind anyway so far) so confirming what to call his name as should be important. Though He does end up being called "Leo" later on. リニア Rinia. No wordplay with this so far, so keeping this as such for now. I expect some wordplay will fall into place since she is something 人神／ヒトガミ Human God/Hitogami keeps throwing Rudeus' way. And it is important to differentiate 人神 Human God from just 神 God (who happens to be ロキシー/Roxy!). and lastly スペルド族 The Superudo Tribe. A couple takes see it as Spelled (as in having an obvious magic enchantment) and one that I didn't get at first, since my brain read it's katakana as 'Speared' having to do mainly with the tribe's affinity to spears which is a major crux of Ruijerd's plot. Anything is fine though. ラプラス Rapurasu is clearly a reference to the Demon of LaPlace, since he was one of the Immortal Demon Lords according to the 400-year history of the world (just currently sealed away in the fortress Chaos Breaker.) --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 03:08, 13 July 2014 (CDT)--

^+100 points, that's some awesome reasoning and precisely why I'm no good with names. One thing on the Holy Beast, I've been translating it that way because of Holy sounds best for most aspects of that continent, technically that entire area uses Saint rather than Holy. IE Saint Beast-sama, Saint Milis, Saint Milis Country would be an alternative name for that one though since every other location is named Kingdom and Saint doesn't fit well as a country/kingdom name, I went with defining it as Holy Milis Kingdom. Also, it could have been taken as Sword Saint/Saint Sword Highway, I don't know if that could have some background in regards to Saint Beasts. One thing I do agree on is the meaning behind Superudo, I think I'm going to switch to using Speared for that one. Also, agree on Laplace Demon (Maxwell is a later mentioned character as well AKA Maxwell's Demon entertaining that page is linked to the Wiki page for Laplace, and Maxwell is related to Atofe I believe both who are related to Laplace if I'm remembering the events right).--[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 06:53, 13 July 2014 (CDT)

Wow, I didn't know there were so many Greek god references but I'm not surprised. About 人神, it's stated in chapter 160 「準備」 that the world knows him as 人神 (pronounced Jinshin) and Hitogami is more like a personal name that few people know, making his full name 人神ヒトガミ (Jinshin Hitogami, perhaps better translated as Human God Hitogami). Leaving his name in romaji also fits with all the times people ask others about him (for example, when Rudeus first asks Ruijerd about 人神, to which Rujierd quizically replies "ヒトガミ？"). That's my opinion. On a side note, I always thought キシリカ's name would sound good written as Kicilica Kicilice, as it seems etymologically similar to the 魔大陸 town リカリス which is close to リコリス/Licorice. Just figured I'd put it out there. (Alternative spelling for maximum mind-screw: Cicilica Cicilice.) --[[User:Myopius|Myopius]] ([[User talk:Myopius|talk]]) 05:34, 14 July 2014 (CDT)

Translations engines are not an authority on romanizations, as well as katakana. Best way to find romanizations for names is to look for known persons with such a romanization. Janice is just as good a match.
Guillain is ギラン, not even close to Girune, which is ギレーヌ [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 22:15, 15 July 2014 (CDT)

Sinisl, because naming sense in katakana is truly a troublesome thing, do you mind if I share how I even came to 'Guillain' as the translation? Before anything else, let me apologize now if I come off sounding rude, I don't mean it to be anything other than an objectionary statement.
Firstly, until just this edit, I haven't consulted a translation engine on the matter. Secondly, isn't ギルーネ Giru-ne and ギレーヌ Gire-nu? I sounded ''''レ'''' as ''le'' opposed to ''re'', and got Gilenu, which if you carry the re/le sound with the hyphen, you get a double vowel result ree/lee, which results in something like Gileenu. The '''ee''' coming off as similar to the ''a'' in s''a''y. Thirdly, is that this author does borrow his fantasy names from a wide range of European sources, and just sounding it out made my intuition say it was french.
But, then I decided to check out what the translation engines and pronunciation engines have to say on the matter, since you did have a good idea there, and got these links as what I guess would be empirical evidence for my claim on the name as Guillain.
[http://www.sljfaq.org/cgi/k2e.cgi?word=%E3%82%AE%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8C Katakana to English similarities on ギレーヌ] and [http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=guillain French pronunciation of ギレーヌ] with the second link, to me at least the 're' can sound like a 'le' and the 'nu' is just pronounced softly. But if you have a better suggestion than that, please go for it. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes, rather, I am just trying to help fill in troublesome blanks if I can. It can stay Gire-nu indefinitely if it's easier for everyone.
And as for ゼニス ... [http://www.sljfaq.org/cgi/k2e.cgi?word=%E3%82%BC%E3%83%8B%E3%82%B9 Katakana to English similarities for ゼニス]. '''Je'''nice is listed, and I can see a logical jump there, but '''Ja'''nice is more like '''ジャ'''ニス if it's JanISS as opposed to '''ジャ'''ニ'''ー'''ス if it's JahNEESE (yes, ask me how I know two women who pronounce their names that way as well -_-). I just can't wrap my head around the entire oversight of reading ゼ '''ze''' as ジャ '''ja'''. Plus, this author uses Rudeus to spout Dragon Quest related nonsense everywhere, and King Zenith ゼニス王 was a ruler of the floating castle of Dragon Quest 6 also happened to be a human instead of what the previous owners were: dragons, so it's not entirely implausible he would use that name using the Zenith->ChaosBreaker->Pergius chain, since Rudeus makes all those 'I became a sage...' jokes to hysterical comic relief, and Sage just happens to be a recurring class in the DQ series. Anyways, that's just speculation on my part, I just happen to see these weird puns like that littered throughout the novel. Anyway, once again I sincerely apologize if my remarks came off as rude, it is not intentional at all. I'm just trying to be constructive and informative about how I come to reach my naming suggestions. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 02:08, 16 July 2014 (CDT)

Ah, of course it is Girenu, eyes get tired of reading katakana so much. Wiki says Ghislaine Thesmar is written as ギレーヌ・テスマー, so that's one good reading right there that doesn't require any inventiveness. [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 11:47, 16 July 2014 (CDT)

Ghislaine eh? wow that's beautiful, because you just pointed out something interesting. Both a Ghislaine ((Which does have a verifiable prounciation as "Gee-len" [http://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/ghislaine See audio result #2]) and Linnea (リニア)
("Lin-e-AH") [http://www.forvo.com/word/linn%C3%A9a/ Swedish pronunciation of Linnéa.] Are types of Foliage. Ghislaine being a Rose, and Linnea being a Twinflower. That becomes incredibly humorous when you think how Linnea and Pursena are almost always together. I don't think I would have caught that. Nice job!

Girenu or Ghislaine or Guillain or Ghyslaine? Confused cross-referencing this list and AnimeSuki for the names.. We are talking about one character - right? right?
Whenever you guys want I can try to walk through all the pages and fix the names given permission.. Because I'm in the mood for fixing the names.. If we ever reach a conclusion o_O [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 20:33, 16 July 2014 (CDT)

For now, I think we should just stick to the Names and Terminology page for consistency with the current Tled chapters. Once names are finalised, if they need to be changed, they can be done. [[User:Pumkingboyz|Pumkingboyz]] ([[User talk:Pumkingboyz|talk]]) 03:25, 18 July 2014 (CDT)

Just throwing these ones out here again with links, but as Skuizaan already mentioned above possible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamba_(mythology) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iseult Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarilo --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 09:13, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

They are a miss: Iseult starts with 'Ise', not with 'Ize', Jarilo ends with 'ro', not with 'ru'. [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 11:29, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Have to agree with [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] in that Jarilo is a complete miss. The 'j' in Jarilo is a 'y' sound: ヤリーロ
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ヤリーロ [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 13:00, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Jarilo (Cyrillic: Ярило or Јарило; Polish: Jaryło; Template:Lang-slo; Croatian: Jura or Juraj; Serbian: Đurilo; Slavic: Jarovit), alternatively '''Yarilo, Iarilo,''' or Gerovit, was a Slavic god of vegetation, fertility and springtime. I think we should rename him Gerovit, lol. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 13:26, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Ariel's attendent's names need to be standardized.
Erumina/Erumoa Bluewolf/Blue Wolf (I recommend Elmina/Elmoa Bluewolf)
Kurine/Kuriine Erurondo (I recommend Kurine Elrond)
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 18:35, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

The big city that Rudeus goes to to tutor Eris is called both Fedoa (same name as the region it is in) and Roa. Could some one look over this please.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 00:53, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

== About Rudy's armor ==

It was actually spelled as madou yoroi = magic/magical armor, just like how 魔導書 was spelled as madoushou = magic/magical tome or grimoire for short (well, correct me if I was wrong ^ ^)--[[User:Endo|Endo]] ([[User talk:Endo|talk]]) 00:02, 18 July 2014 (CDT)

== Zantport and Wenport ==

Suggestion: If you're going to be liberal and translate 'wenpooto' as 'Windport', you may as well go the whole mile and translate 'zantopooto' as Sandport.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 01:01, 20 July 2014 (CDT)

Reason being that Japanese don't have trouble rendering 'Wind' as 'Windo' e.g. the word ウィンドサーフィン, or the company 株式会社WIND also written as 株式会社ウィンド. Gunna be frank here; if the author is aware of a name like Ghislaine, then I'd bet that he knows 'wind' is not typically written as 'wen'. In other words, either he's hinting at 'wind', which makes it possible that 'zanto' is hinting at 'sand', or he didn't have 'wind' in mind at all, and it's supposed to be 'wenport'. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:46, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Be a rebel and translate it as Saint Port (though it is the Mirisu side). I didn't think Zanto had the sound of Sand, I guess that does sort of make sense after its pointed out. Names too hard for me I should just start naming all characters with letters, though I would run out and have to mix them with numbers, Rudeus is now called A1 in my translations... --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 01:15, 20 July 2014 (CDT)

Gunna rebel and start using Rooday'Az.[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 11:52, 20 July 2014 (CDT)

As for the wenpooto/zantopooto business, I would like to let alllllll you editors know, that I personally feel that you either stay fundamentalist for both (Wenport and Zantport), or liberal for both (Windport and Sandport). Also, I don't think there's a problem with Begaritto IMO, unless someone finds convincingly corresponding sounds in names of European places. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:24, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

EDIT: Also, still waiting on your input about changing the MC's name to Rooday'Az lol. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:27, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

When it comes to names I have no issue with any changes to them it's better if they're all the same across the board. Just try to avoid any names that might massively alter the meaning. That Special/Good Life thing in volume 7 bothers me a bit in such a way. I always thought of Girenu as a Gelaine kind of name but if you guys want to take that as a Ghyslaine, that's similar and fine, just don't expect me to remember how to type it out like that when I'm translating it later, your free to fix it after to whatever is decided. Also, I mentioned it as a joke before but after giving it some thought I seriously started to consider Zanto = Saint, Saint Port as a connection point between what should have been Country of Saint Milis and it's at one end of the Sword Saint Highway. Anyways, good luck with the names no need to ask me any further. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 07:45, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Mmn, I think Saint Port might be good too. I just suggested Sand Port because I found it weird that 'wenpooto' was taken so liberally (I don't think a normal Japanese would get 'wind' from 'ウェン'), but you guys didn't noticed that 'zantopooto' might be sand in that case. If anything, you should be using Wenport and Sandport, not Windport and Zantoport (which would be much more normal for Japanese).

The reason is because 'zanto' resembles the German/Dutch pronunciation of 'sand', and so the four letter combination 'sand' ends up as ザント in Japanese.

e.g. in Log Horizon, ザント is used in the name of a place called ザントリーフ (taken by most translators as Sand Leaf). e.g. http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ザントハウゼン (Sandhausen) 
e.g. http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/マルティン・ザントベルガー (Martin Sandberger) 

On the other hand, the four letter combination 'wind' is basically always ウィンド (windo) and not ウェン (wen). For this reason, imo the possible names should be like this, from most liberal to most fundamentalist:

1. Saint Port and Wind Port 
2. Sand Port and Wind Port 
3. Sandport and Wenport 
4. Zantport and Wenport 

And yeah, the Special/Good Life thing is bothering me as well lol. It's weird because in English we don't associate 'life' with 'student'. Readers might get the wrong impression. Honestly "the Good Life" sounds like the name of some pyramid scam.
Also I think that Gelaine might be a corruption of Ghislaine. I've personally never heard of Gelaine though, but it doesn't seem popular judging by google searches. It's just conjecture, but perhaps it's an 'alternate' spelling of Ghislaine. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 09:37, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

== Shiron Kingdom ==

Throwing in support for 'Shirone' or something like that instead of Shiron. Reading the raws for volume 7 at the moment, and found that it's シーローン王国. Usually the long 'roon' (ローン) is used for words that sound like 'lawn' (as in the grass) or loan (as in the investment). [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:55, 21 July 2014 (CDT)

At animesuki I saw them use Pax Shiron/Shirone instead of Pakkusu, since its a fairly well known latin word. Its also ironic considering the prince is anything but peaceful.--[[User:Nosobi|Nosobi]] ([[User talk:Nosobi|talk]]) 22:07, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

== エリナリーゼ ==

Would like to suggest ending エリナリーゼ's name in lise or liese, as it is reminiscent of the German/French name ending. I'm currently suggesting Elinalise as it sounds like parts of a real name, but as I realise there's no long vowel in エリナ, I'm ambivalent towards both 'Elina' and 'Erina'. 

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/リーゼ

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 01:21, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

It's only like that cause the earlier chapters were tl'ed like that and changed for consistency. If Kaito doesn't mind, i'll change 'erinarize' to 'Elinalise', 'begaritto' to 'begarit' and 'Shiron' to 'Shirone', should Zanto port/Wenport stay as it is or be changed to sand port/wind port? There was also talks about Girenu/Ghislaine/Guillain/Ghyslaine but a decision was never made. Please let me know if you want these changed [[User:Pumkingboyz|Pumkingboyz]] ([[User talk:Pumkingboyz|talk]]) 01:59, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Shouldn't this be discussed amongst the editors? Kaito himself has said that he'd leave things to the editors. I understand my place as well, and will obey the will of the majority. Still, I have the right to stubbornly try and change your minds lol. For one thing, I'm pretty sure Guillain is a man's name, and written as ギラン(giran). ギレーヌ (gireenu) is almost certainly Ghislaine or one of it's variants (Ghyslaine for example) and not Girenu. It's also not Ghislain because that's also a man's name (lol). [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 02:24, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

^^^^
It is probably Guilléne. Guillén and Ghislain are male, you add 'e' to the end - Guilléne and Ghislaine to make them feminine.

Yeah no way I want to change names without a consensus because I'll feel guilty if I destroy people's translations. However I went to AnimeSuki forum and even there they said the only consensus they ever come to is Orsted (instead of Orusuteddo or Orstedd) because there was a roman writing. If you guys need help I can go through and make the names consistent. Just tell us editors what to do. There're like 4-5 version of names out there including the online-translated stuff that didn't get romanized. Give us the trigger and I'll start referring to this page to fix all the names and terminologies. Unlike Vanant while I obey the will of the majority I have no reason to change peoples' minds lol because seems like a lot had already done their research. Oh, can we get more wiki/reference links in the page so new editors know why did people come up with the names? :) [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 10:59, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Was just reading [[User_talk:Pumkingboyz]] and [[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] was talking about flower names being used for Lilia, Ghislaine, Ginger, and Juliet. Was there a reason we're using Lylia instead of Lilia? Was it game reference? We're not prioritizing flower name usage? [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 12:26, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Christian_%C3%98rsted Orsted.] also if it's the difference between male and female changing Ghislaine with Ghyslaine go with the feminine. Elinalize or whatever is fine. No real references found with her or aisha. Pakkusu should be Pax though, without a doubt, since 'Pax' means peace, and we know he is anything but peaceable. Lilia is not in any DQ game, though you might find it funny that our friend Cliff Grimoire is. From DQ4, also the origin of Zenith (Castle), Kurifuto was a PC if I remember my NES, and I don't. Take away the -to and you have Kurifu. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 02:09, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

== ギュエス (gyuesu) ==

I suggest Gyes. In Japanese, the Hekatonkheir Gyes (Γύης) is romanised as ギュエス(gyuesu) or alternatively ギューエース(gyuueesu). Considering all this other shit the guy knows about Greek mythology I'm going to go out on a limb and suppose that he's heard of the hekatonkheires. In the first place, Gyes is one of the hekatonkheires that appears in Owari no Chronicle.

Incidentally, one of its other names is Gyges (Γύγης), is brought into Japanese as ギューゲース (gyuugeesu). 

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ヘカトンケイル [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:39, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

Whoa, didn't see ^this link before. Go with that by all means.--[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 12:39, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

== イゾルテ・クルーエル (izorute kuruueru) ==

Copy of conversation:

You need to have a look at how they romanise things here: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/トリスタンとイゾルデ

Isolde is イゾルデ(izorude) and Iseult is イズールト(izuuruto). You have the grounds to change Iseult to Isolte or something or other, but there's no grounds for you to say that "oh, it's not a 'so' sound but a 'zo' sound so let's change it to Izolte"
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:29, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

If you look, you'll notice that イゾルテ is neither of those - it is not ending in 'De', and second syllable is not 'Zu'. Modified reading of Isolde into Isolte, that corresponds to the change of 'de' to 'te', is as good reading as any, unless an example is found of word with existing translation with exactly that reading [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 12:39, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

You're missing my point completely, lol. I'm saying that no matter if it's a テ or a デ, "Iseult starts with 'Ise', not with 'Ize'" is completely invalid. Iseult and Isolde are both transliterated as 'z' sounds (see righhhhhhhht above this message. I'll even bold it for you.). Not to be rude here, but you're going to have to learn that '''Japanese don't take pronounciation cues from English alone''', buddy. A great example is how they write 'Bach' lol. How about you tell me that バッハ isn't Bach, because Bach should end in a っく sound.

When it comes to fantasy names, they're usually not taken directly from an actual name/location name. That's why we do the best we can to find parts that they may have pieced together, or taken cues from. For example, Iseult and Isolde.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:44, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

EDIT: For the record, I have no idea who this izorute character is lol. I'm just arguing because I can't agree with the basis behind [[User:SinsI|SinsI]]'s modification to Izolte (http://i59.tinypic.com/291gyuw.png). If he's being picky about the 'te' ending instead of 'de' ending, then use Isolte. It makes no sense to use 'izolte' when Japanese have clearly shown that they use イゾ to represent the 'iso' sound in Isolde.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:53, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

BTW I was just pointing Iseult wiki page out as the most likely origin for her character (matches her character description as well), Izolte, Izolde, Isolde, or Isolte all work IMO for names, it says right on the wiki page that Isolde is an alternative spelling for Iseult, put that through a Japanese pronunciation grinder and any of those work really. She appears in the Eris side stories along the later volumes, also in volume 16 chapter 5 Letter Arrives that I translated previously. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 13:23, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

@[[User:SinsI|SinsI]]: As I've said, if you're unhappy with Iseult, then use Isolte. There's no need for Izolte because 1) it's not a name 2) The 'iso' in 'Isolte' is read as 'イゾ(izo)' anyways. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 14:25, 22 July 2014 (CDT)

As much as I lit the fire here... Izolute was how I read it at first, and was just looking for what was phonetically close, because katakana is... well yeah. Honestly, I was wondering if Izolute wasn't some kind of counter word to something like Resolute. If not, I mean, you have Final Fantasy Tactics' good old [http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Isilud_Tengille Izlude]it's literally one kana off. イズルード (Izoru-do) instead of イズルテ (Izorute). And we know this guy is all about Square-enix games. We can ignore this character for a while, but she will be dealt with during Eris side stories, and in vol.18 I believe. BUT I'm going to throw this out here. Tristina. Tristina is mentioned around this time as well and you have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_and_Iseult Tristan and Iseult]. I mean yeah it's somewhat stretching it, and honestly, I don't care enough to pursue it at this time. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 02:09, 23 July 2014 (CDT)

== リニア(rinia) & プルセナ(purusena) ==

==プルセナ==
I feel that the Porsena Lars thing is grasping at straws a bit. First of all they write him as ポルセナ王(king porusena). Second of all he's not that famous. Pursena is probably just a made up name that Ludicrous Backscratcher came up with.

http://www.oct.zaq.ne.jp/poppo456/in/p_Publicola.htm (mentions of porusena as ポルセナ王)

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/shizuo_asogawa/e/697fadb7ae033607473d74979fb4e891 (mentions of porusena as ポルセナ王)

http://wikimatome.com/wiki/ポルセナ

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 07:00, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

It's fine to do whatever on this one tbh, I'm not gonna be obstinate. Mainly because I've read this: [http://altneues.com/sagon/haevest/h/Haevest.html Haevest] which happens to have a character in it named Purusena, same as in this one.--[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 12:30, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

Since her name matches with her sister, should we change that other girl to Tersena? Or should we go with Purusena for this one?
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 22:35, 29 July 2014 (CDT)

==リニア==
Linnea the flower would be リンネ(rinne) wouldn't it? http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/リンネソウ

The only mention of リニア(rinia, the character's name) with regards to botanology would be the calandrinia (カランドリニア) so I'm pretty happy with Rinia as things are. ATM the idea that the author was going for some flower naming scheme seems just a tad dubious. Speaking fairly though, I'm only up to volume 8.

As for the Swedish name, it's リネア(rinea):

"スウェーデンで「リネア」は女の子の名前としても大変有名です。" - http://woodenhorse.shop-pro.jp/?pid=42910460 
"In Sweden, the girls' name 'Linnea' is very famous."

Hotel name transliterated as リネア(rinea), not リニア(rinia): http://www.jtb.co.jp/kaigai_fit/fr/v2/hotel/1081529/index.html;jsessionid=D04A45F1D49693C8E9605EEE5703A4C9

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 07:00, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

[https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%E3%83%AA%E3%83%8B%E3%82%A2+and+%E5%90%8D%E5%89%8D+and+Linnea Googled the following: リニア and 名前 and Linnea] It's legit. Some people do pronounce it Lin EE ah リニア, not just Lin AY uh リネア. Honestly if it was me, I wouldn't even attempt to localize any of these names. Until the end Rinia would be Rinia, Purusena Purusena, Gire-nu Gire-nu, etc. I worry that the people who want to do the manga scanlation (BTW chapter 1 is out in Monthly comic flapper- june issue) are going to be taking the naming cues from us. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 12:11, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

From experience the manga scanlators are worse in romanizing names. e.g. Lots of weird names for Hyouketsu Kyoukai no Eden first time, but the author himself did give the characters some hard-to-pronounce names tho lol. But yeah my first sentence still stands. [[User:Acolyte|Acolyte]] ([[User talk:Acolyte|talk]]) 12:15, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

Oh cool! Stand corrected. -salutes- [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 17:40, 24 July 2014 (CDT)

Has there been an official decision on this name yet? Personally i am in the Linnea camp (because that is the flower's name), but if the wiki makes a decision i will commence with the standardization. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:42, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

== Bog? Quagmire? Morass? Marshland? Swamp? Mire? Fen? ==

Lets decide this please.

I prefer "Morass" because it makes for a great word in the following chapters.

But i'm willing to settle for "Marshland", "Mire" or "Fen".

"Bog" is a slang for a toilet and quagmire reminds me of "Family Guy", so they will never sound "cool" in my head....ever.

--Onizuka-GTO 03:30, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

I stand by "Bog" first, he gets comments on how "dirty" his name sounds when his nickname comes up. Though just going with the simple "Mud" might work as well. "Rudeus of the Mud". "Rudmud" or "Mudeus" for short. Lol. That sounds so bad but I don't think his name was intended to sound cool. In terms of English transition Quagmire might work for comedic effect, "Oh Rudeus of the Quagmire you're so dirty~" It's like an unintended English reference. (Or maybe the Author was really just that bad ass to put that into consideration when he came up with it as a reference?) My opinion: 1. Bog, 2. Quagmire 3. Mud --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 04:23, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

"Bog" is a slang for a toilet and quagmire reminds me of "Family Guy", so they will never sound "cool" in my head....ever.
Have to agree with both of these, but the first comment in particular. Seeing peopel write it as 'bog' is just really uhh... Like, I can't imagine that anyone could associate that with respect lol.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 15:12, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

Okay, since Kaito makes a point that it shouldn't be "cool" i can understand it for later usage, but i really can't stand "bog" or "mud", "Quagmire" irritates me, but that's from a cultural standpoint and i suspect for non-western/Native English-speaking readers, the reference wouldn't be an issue.
So i propose that we stick with "Quagmire", as it is not anyones favourite and irritates us all equally, which can be used in later comedic instances.

Onizuka-GTO 01:05, 26 July 2014 (CDT)

It is written Rudus of quagmire. Is it simple typo or does he goes by Rudus instead of Rudeus? ~Anonymous stranger

It's a typo of Roux'Deus.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 07:30, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

== Voiceless or Chantless? ==

Which one? I'm seeing both in the translations.
[[User:DaiZzed|DaiZzed]] ([[User talk:DaiZzed|talk]]) 16:37, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

I'm the one who usually uses Voiceless Incantations (I think it started from Silent's translations?), but that might assume he's still using the incantation just in his head. Chantless is the proper way of using it, and you're free to fix them if you see it. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 16:58, 25 July 2014 (CDT)

he doesn't "chant" per se, he "imagines" or virtually 3D builds the magic mentally, therefore i feel "chantless" is more accurate.
Onizuka-GTO 01:07, 26 July 2014 (CDT)

Chantless would certainly be closer to the term used in the Japanese. 無詠唱　[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 04:19, 26 July 2014 (CDT)

==Zenith Greyrat==

Has a decision been made on the name of Rudy mother's name?

its zenith but they havent been updated yet

Made the update --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:49, 31 July 2014 (CDT)

== Rudi or Rudy? ==

Since someone is changing Rudi to Rudy, we should at least get consensus on this.
I prefer Rudi, but there's no real basis behind it.
--[[User:DaiZzed|DaiZzed]] ([[User talk:DaiZzed|talk]]) 21:36, 30 July 2014 (CDT)

I prefer Rudi as well, that's what Paul uses, that's what Sylphy uses...

Though occasionally they cut Rudeus short in context to Rude as well it's usually a surprised speech or that sort when it comesu p.. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 22:55, 30 July 2014 (CDT)

I prefer Rudy because it's the common spelling for the dimunitive form of Rudolph (also known as "I've met two people named Rudy and one more on the internet, but I've never come across a guy called Rudi"). That's probably because I don't speak any German though.
At any rate, will continue translating it as such; editors can do whatever. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 07:29, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

I know Rudy is usually a shortened form of Rudolph and probably Rudeus, plus I saw somewhere Rudi is usually a girl's name. -[[User:Marrow|Marrow]] ([[User talk:Marrow|talk]]) 08:36, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

Oh, just started reading volume 12. I see now why people said his name is probably Ludeus. Will we end up changing it to Ludeus or? [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:45, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

Think the author is a fan of FFIV? [http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2322387/ this character's name] is familiar.... anyway [[User:Onizuka-gto|Onizuka-gto]] can you just decide? I really don't mind either way, but we're split here and just need an executive decision on this. --[[User:DaiZzed|DaiZzed]] ([[User talk:DaiZzed|talk]]) 00:04, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

That seems like good evidence that the name should be Ludeus Grayrat (i would keep the nickname as Rudy though). I can do the work editing everything to say Ludeus if a change is to be made. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:44, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

Umm.. so no one has caught the joke with his name yet either?
'Ludius' is the old Latin word for 'Player' MC's name is literally 'Player' as in Player 1. This extends to 'Ludi' as well.
I like Rudeus though.--[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 17:28, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

My personal opinion is that Rudeus is more or less accepted and we should not change it this late in the story. (Lets all avoid and side step the L = R headache)
As for it's shorten form, since the name "Rudeus" is already unique in some ways, i would prefer "Rude" as it's more of a logical shorten form of "Rudeus", on the other hand "Rudi" does indeed sound more feminine and finally "Rudy" is already associated with "Rudolph" so i would like to avoid using that.
As mentioned before, we are dealing with a fictional names, so there really isn't any point trying to associate it with a real life established name, so Lets just keep it consistent, fiction names with fictional shorten forms and real names with real shorten names.

Regards,

Onizuka-GTO 21:31, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

I don't think "Rude" would be a good choice as that name is a negative adjective. Rudi is usually associated with females but I think we should go with it. Here's the reason why: [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rudi Urban dictionary]

'''
"An extremely attractive guy that is very succesful at what he does. Can also be very funny and make people like him for making them feel good."'''
"That guy is so goodlooking, he is such a Rudi"

The fact that some chapters use Rudi and others Rudy is driving me crazy. I hope a decision is made so that i can fix this problem. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:37, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Ah, i forgot that "Rude" is in English is someone who is not very polite! Sometime reading in the Japanese romanji method can be a bad habit. haha.

Okay, lets stick with "Rudi" then.

Onizuka-GTO 00:18, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== Fitts or Fitz ==

Seen both, clarification would be appreciated -[[User:Marrow|Marrow]] ([[User talk:Marrow|talk]]) 14:09, 31 July 2014 (CDT)

Since Fitts is derived from Fedoa's Region, we need to change the latter so that they match. [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 04:05, 1 August 2014 (CDT)

How is that ever going to work? Any ideas? [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 12:08, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

The Fedz. They're always looking out for you. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 23:14, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

I will commence the standardization then. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 23:45, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

there is some talk in vol 9 about the one requirement to become prince entourage is he/she must be a noble child, so they masquerading Sylphy as a bastard son of noble. and here "Fitz" name come to[reference to "Assassin Apprentice" by Robin Hobb, must read first half of that book to know the origin of "Fitz"] --[[User:zmunjali|zmunjali]] ([[User talk:zmunjali|talk]])

== Protection Art User Derrick Redbad ==

I haven't read past volume 11 yet, so if it turns out to be wrong, forgive me.

I was thinking that "Protection Art User" might be better worded as "Guard Magician" or "Guardian Magician". The reason is that there are two 'positions' for the guards; one is Guardian Knight（守護騎士, shugokishi） and the other is Protection Technique Expert （守護術師, shugojutsushi）. Unless Sylphy turns out to be practising some unique form of protection magic or other protection skills that a 守護騎士 wouldn't, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to consider 守護術師 as a shortened title for Guardian Magician （守護魔術師, shugomajutsushi）, since it's one knight and one magician.

Yes? No? Would be happy if someone who read ahead or knew more about the situation around the royal family responded.
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 08:57, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

I had changed it to Guardian Magician after the initial upload. After-edits must have changed it back. I was pondering over whether or not to leave it as Magician (since Jutsushi also does translate to Magician without needing the 'Ma' character) or try something class like Sorceror or Wizard or something, but then one of those two classes WOULD have really required it to be Ma-jutsushi. Any instances of Protection Art User, should be Guardian Magician to fit in theme with the whole fantasy world setting and knight/wizard entourage. --[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 17:05, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

== Soldat ==

エレクトロゾルダート is Elektrosoldat because it is a German word, and in German ''''s' before a vowel is read as English 'z'''' (http://joycep.myweb.port.ac.uk/pronounce/consons.html). Are we sure that it has German reading here as well? Any others with German names in his party? [[User:SinsI|SinsI]] ([[User talk:SinsI|talk]]) 11:40, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

Oh, actually knew that. Guess I'm just tired. My bad. And I don't think it's a matter of his party being German themed; it's probably just because Backscratcher is an otaku, and so knows of Elektrosoldat (the character). His party and clan are lightning themed.

EDIT: Incidentally even googled this beforehand, so dunno what on earth I was thinking when I wrote that.

"...ゾルダート」の小説を読む. '''ゾルダート(Soldat)とは、ドイツ語で｢兵士、軍人｣の意である。''' pixivでは主に｢ｱｰｲ!｣ことエレクトロゾルダートの絵につけられることが多いタグ。 ... pixivに投稿された作品 pixivで「ゾルダート」のイラストを見る · テスト; ゾル; ゆっくりし ..."
[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 11:56, 2 August 2014 (CDT)

== Trev_lite's Standardization ==
Moved stuff to a different page since it will get long fast.
[[Trev_lite:Mushoku_Tensei_Terminology]]

Future stuff:
* Race and Tribe (awaiting final decision)
* ""s and []s (will hold off on this one since it will be a lot of work)
* Ariel's attendants' names (awaiting final decision)
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 05:30, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

Discussion and requests go here:

== King or Emperor ? ==

Since we are using "Saint" for magical/skill levels and "God" for the highest magical/skill level than i would prefer we stick to one.

I personally favour "Emperor" rather then "king".

Onizuka-GTO 21:51, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Gonna sneak this in real quick to avoid some confusion.
Ranks as it appears in vol.1 ch.3 in webnovel. 級 = Rank/Grade/Class

初級、Beginner (Elementary)

中級、Middle (Intermediate)

上級、Upper (Advanced)

聖級、Expert (Saint) <-- this kanji has 2+ reads, common are: Hijiri - (Master/Expert) and Sei - (Saint/Holy)

王級、King

帝級、Emperor

神級。God

--[[User:Skuizaan|Skuizaan]] ([[User talk:Skuizaan|talk]]) 22:24, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Due to the often used double meanings in regards to holy/saintliness/sages I think it should remain Saint rather than Master/Expert. Emperor and King are two separate levels though as Skui said, with Emperor being one level above King. On the lower end I'm more of a fan of Elementary, Intermediate, and Advanced. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 23:41, 4 August 2014 (CDT)

Perfect. Lets go with the above.

Onizuka-GTO 00:59, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Incidentally, just the kanji itself has the connotation of expert, even disregarding on/kun reading uses. In the past they did use the 'term' 剣聖 after all. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 01:29, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I also noticed that about 聖級. By convention 剣聖/kensei would be translated now as "Sword Saint" but if you look that up in a dictionary there's an established translation, "master swordsman", and I think that's very close to what the author intended when, for example, he used it in the first Eris side story chapter. I believe that this probably happened because previous generations of Japanese attempted to figure out Western equivalents for Japanese cultural terms, and they ended up with religious words. --[[User:Myopius|Myopius]] ([[User talk:Myopius|talk]]) 09:11, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== Magic or Demon ==

Should magic race/continent be considered the official translation over demon race/continent.
If so it should be added to the terminology page.
I will do the conversion of the chapters once it is added.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 22:41, 4 August 2014 (CDT)

Considering the author's background and Rudeus' background, I would wager that Demon Continent and Demon Race are closer to the intended meaning. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 01:24, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I'm of the same opinion and though I was using Magic to match the stuff up when I started on volume 3 with Silent, I've hesitated over it a lot (which is why it's edited as Demon on the map chapters). I think Demon makes the most sense... though in theory both work... There's always them Magic Lord/Kings after all.. though you don't hear about them often. I'll leave this one to someone else to decide. Magic Lord/King vs Demon Lord/King which makes more sense. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 01:43, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

How does the issue of the Magic/Demon race/continent/language (Roxy as an example) compare to the issue of the Demon/Devil King/Emperor/God (Badigadi and Laplace as an example)?
Also is there a difference in kanji between Demon God (Laplace), Demon God (Language) and Demon God (of mythology)?
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:50, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Demon King/Lord are preference based Vanant and I use different ones but they refer to local region lords/kings in Demon Continent (Mao/Maou). Demon God(Majin) is a title similar to Dragon God/Human God/Sea God/Beast God, those are limited to one being, and at least in one case are known to be titles passed down by some unknown standard. The only Demon God ever specifically mentioned is Laplace. Though the way it is in the context is that he "inherited" that when he was born. The more confusing one is Kishirika Kishirisu, she uses Makai Mikado which would be Demon/Underworld/Hell Emperor/Empress, about the only case of that usage. Ma = Demon/Magic, the Demon/Magic God = Majin, all the languages except human language, are referred to by their Gods language, IE Demon God Language, Beast God Language, Fighting God Language, Sea God Language, only human language isn't referred to as Human God Language. Devil is generally only used when making one out to be evil or more evil for some purpose. Humans call the Supard races devils/demons (akuma), though it can have a similar meaning to Demon Race. Akuma(Evil Demon/Devil) vs Mazoku (Demon Race) --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 02:04, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Also, throwing down some situations where you wouldn't change Magic: Magic Armor, Magic Item, Magic Tool, Magic Circle/Formation, Magic Crystal, Magic Stone, Magic Power, Magic Disturber and general references to magic as magic, like fire magic, etc.. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 02:11, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

魔王、魔界、魔大陸、魔石 etc. are all of 'ma'. The reason I translate some as 'demon' and some as 'magic' is simply because this novel series is heavily influenced by rpgs.

In RPGs, 魔王(lit. 'ma' king) are always Demon King or Demon Lord in English versions.

In RPGs, 魔界(lit. 'ma' realm) is always Demon World or Demon Realm in English versions.

In RPGs, 魔力(lit. 'ma' power) is always mana or prana or MP.

Basically how I do it is look at the context and description of the place/item/whatever and decide if it would be 'Magic' or 'Demon' in an rpg. As you can see above, Kaito does the same, where he considers the context, and decides if it's a strict reference to 'magic', or if it's a general 'ma'(in which case you'd consider precedent i.e. RPGs).

For this reason, the 魔族 are almost undoubtedly 'demon race' because they live on the 魔大陸 which is compared to the 魔界 by Rudy. Incidentally, the 魔大陸 is lorded over by a bunch of 魔王, meaning that it's almost undeniably intended to be Demon Race living on the Demon Continent, lorded over by Demon Kings(Lord is less literally, but absolutely correct in light of RPGs) and a Great Empress of the Demon Realm.

It's for this reason, for example, that 迷宮(labyrinth) is translated as dungeon (despite definitely meaning 'labyrinth' and not 'dungeon' at all).

Edit: I think the main reason that there's even a discussion is because SilentWolfie was too devout a believer, and didn't want to liken Roxy to a demon, but yeah.

And yes, as Kaito mentions, the Japanese makes a clear distinction between 悪魔(devil/akuma, and what they call the Supeld) and the 魔族(demon race/demon clans).

[[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 09:35, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== Badigadi/Bardy Gardy? ==

Simply put, i prefer "Badigadi"

The other one sounds like a bald cross dressing man in a pride parade.

Onizuka-GTO 00:21, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Hell yes. That's all I have to say. If we're going to use Bardy Gardy, Rudeus needs to be renamed Roux'Deus. If people really have to try and find meaning behind the name just google it there's a legit place in the middle of a desert in the middle of nowhere that no one has ever heard of named Badigadi. It works. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 00:44, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Isn't his name supposed to be two words? BadiGadi, Badi-Gadi, Body Gody, Body Gaurdy, BadyGady, BaddyGaddy ... I have no idea how to romanize his name.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:09, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

His name doesn't have the space in it that others do when they're spaced like Kishirika.Kishirisu. I'm not really one who can talk about kanji/kana/spacing but it always appeared differently than spaced names to me, it's a whole as Badigadi instead of Badi.Gadi. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 01:15, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

The kana listed for his name is バーディ・ガーディ and has the name divider ・ symbol in it. Is this a mistake?
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:26, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Fixed. Someone asked for his name earlier, and when I was typing it in, by habit... [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 01:27, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

Ok. I have no problems with Badigadi now. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:32, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

我が名は魔王バーディガーディ！ /End

Possible etymological influences... [http://ejje.weblio.jp/content/%E3%83%8F%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3 Hurdy-gurdy] ([http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hurdy-gurdy definition]), [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bawdy?ref=dictionary&word=bawdy# bawdy] [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaudy gaudy]. --[[User:Myopius|Myopius]] ([[User talk:Myopius|talk]]) 10:33, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== Jinas, Jenius, Jenas or Genus? ==

Lets settle this as well,

I'm just going to go with either "Jinas" or "Jenas"

its just a preference because "Jenius" sounds too close ti "Genius" and "Genus" just doesn't work with me, since i've only just got my head round to "Jinas" as the headmaster(?)...person.
So lets just decide on one and move on.

Onizuka-GTO 01:02, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I am all for Jinas.
I already changed Jenas to Jinas so its less work for me.
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:10, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== Paul vs Paulo ==

Requesting the reasoning on why Paul is being changed to Paulo.
(I think it is because the kana ends with a ro, not with a ru (which is a dummy vowel for kanaization))
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 02:03, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I did some research and パウロ and ポール are both kanaizations of Paul.
ポール is used for the modern name Paul, while パウロ is used for the ancient name Paul.
I think the reason is that the form パウロ is borrowed from Portuguese (for names of religious figures).

I think that the name Paul should be used since we refer to Pope Paul as Paul (not the Latin Paulus) and Paul the apostle as Paul (not the Greek Paulos).
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 02:24, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

@Trev, it's not a dummy vowel in this case. Paulo = Paul because the name is associated with the Christian figure, who was first brought to prominence in Japan via Portguese missionaries. A modern person named Paul would write their name as ポール. In the end it's just a matter of taste. I write Paul out of habit, but Paulo is arguably more correct. [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 09:24, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

== "Mana calamity" or [insert other name]? ==

I've noticed there is two (or three?) names for this event, i forget where i saw it, so i just need some clarification of what this event should be called and stick to one.

Onizuka-GTO 23:01, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

This is another thing the author caused. He calls it at least 3-5 different names. Maryoku Saigai, Teni Jiken, Teni Saigai, Dai Saigai (Log Horizon?), Maryoku Tensai... Honestly, I can't even remember them all, but the reason they're all over the place isn't just a difference in translation on this one... so it would be pretty hard to differentiate. It might even change the meaning, if in one of the political chapters they refer to it as a "disaster" vs "incident" since it was made use of politically.

On the disaster end it could be incident, calamity, disaster, or natural disaster. But, I don't think these should be changed, calamity and disaster are interchangeable but natural disaster and incident are different in the context themselves tensai & jiken vs saigai (calamity/disaster).

Basically the only changes should be: instances where it's referred to as Metastasis/teleport, we should choose one: '''Teleport, Transfer, Shift, or Metastasis.'''

Also, in regards to mana it's up for question whether to leave that as mana or use magic power. '''Mana Calamity vs Magic Power Calamity/Disaster'''. (Both are maryoku saigai in the raws) --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 23:53, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

In case that ^ was confusing what I'm suggesting is basically, if we pick "Teleport", "Mana", and "Disaster".

Then teni jikens would all become "teleport incident", maryoku saigai, would become "mana disaster", teni saigai would become "teleport disaster", the other ones that refer to it as "natural disaster" should be left alone, though if they have metastasis or magic power then change them to "teleport" and "mana" accordingly. Mana vs Magic power, Disaster vs Calamity, Metastasis vs Teleport. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 02:37, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

"Mana", "Teleport", "Disaster" and "incident" Sounds good to me, as long as there is consistency.
Onizuka-GTO 04:06, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

== Roxy "Shisho" or "Master"? ==

Preferably "Master" since we have been going with "Master" or "Grandmaster" for certain titles, so i would like to keep it consistent.

Onizuka-GTO 23:03, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

there was a small talk about it on codebreaker talk page. to quote dark kaito "Just to throw this out as well if you've been changing shishou to master, I'd suggest avoiding it volume 7+, it might get mixed up with how Juli uses the Engrish word Master and Grandmaster to refer to Zanoba & Rudeus later, while Zanoba refers to Rudeus with the Japanese shishou same as Rudeus refers to Roxy. I don't think Zanoba wants you assuming he is Juli's Master (shishou) even though he is her Master. And you don't want to make Zanoba angry."

^
Yeah, Zanoba refers to Rudeus as shisho, and tells Julie to refer to himself as Master and Rudeus as Grand Master.

The way Rudeus refers to Roxy is different depending on when/where he uses it... sometimes it's shisho, sometimes it's sensei, other times it's kami. That one is a bit harder in her regard... I personally think sensei works the best for Rudeus referring to Roxy, I can't specifically remember how I've translated it... but I'd suggest sensei or shisho for Roxy. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 23:45, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I see, it make sense to make a difference from "Master" that is to Julie and "Kami" is given, so lets just settle for "Sensei" then, it's at least something English readers are familiar with that has a martial connotation (Besides "Sifu").
Onizuka-GTO 04:02, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-06T10:26:43Z

Trev lite: /* Names */

Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki
=== Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles ===
===== Magic and Sword ranks =====
* Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed)
* Beginner -> elementary rank(ed) (type magic)
* Middle -> intermediate rank(ed) (type magic)
* Upper -> advanced rank(ed) (type magic)
* Expert -> saint rank(ed) (type magic)
===== Magic Types=====
* Fire magic -> fire magic
* Water magic -> water magic
* Earth magic -> earth magic
* Wind magic -> wind magic
===== Magic Titles: Saint Ranked =====
* Fire Saint -> (a) Fire-Saint
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint
* Earth Saint -> (a) Earth-Saint
* Wind Saint -> (a) Wind-Saint
===== Magic Titles: God Ranked =====
* Fire God -> (a) Fire-God
* Water God -> (a) Water-God
* Earth God -> (a) Earth-God
* Wind God -> (a) Wind-God
===== Capitalization =====
* Magic -> magic
* Melded Magic-> melded magic
* Mana -> mana
===== Sword Styles =====
* Sword God style -> Sword-God style
* Water God style -> Water-God style
* North God style -> North-God style
===== Sword Titles: Saint =====
* Sword Saint -> (a) Sword-Saint
* Water Saint -> (a) Water-Saint
* North Saint -> (a) North-Saint
===== Sword Titles: God =====
* Sword God -> (the) Sword-God
* Water God -> (the) Water-God
* North God -> (the) North-God
 
=== Races, Languages, Gods and Continents ===
===== Gods =====
* Magic God -> (the) Demon-God
===== Languages =====
* Magic God language -> (the) Demon-God language
===== Races =====
* magic race -> (the/a) demon race(s)
* beast race -> (the/a) beast race(s)
===== continent =====
* magic continent -> (the) demon continent
===== Events =====
* human-magical race war -> the human-demon war
 
=== Currency ===
===== Asuran Currency =====
* Asura Gold Coin -> Asuran Gold Coin
* Asura Silver Coin -> Asuran Silver Coin
* Asura Large Copper Coin -> Asuran Large Copper Coin
* Asura Copper Coin -> Asuran Copper Coin
===== Demon Continent Currency =====
* small green rock -> Green Mineral Coin
 
=== Cities and Locations ===
* Fedoa (city) -> Roa
* city x -> (the) city of x
 
=== Honorifics and Titles ===
* Shisho(u) -> Master (as a title or stand alone)
* x-Shisho(u) -> Master x
* sempai -> senpai
* senpai -> Senpai (as a title or stand alone)
* sensei -> Sensei (as a title or stand alone)
 
=== Misc. ===
* wand -> staff (situational)
* pantsu -> panties
 
=== Names ===
===== Current =====
* Roruzu -> Rawls
* Grayrat -> Greyrat
===== Future =====
* Paul -> Paulo
* Ghislaine -> Ghyslaine (only if asked)
===== Past =====
* Fitz to Fitts
* Shiron to Shirone
* Janice to Zenith
* Erinarize to Elinalise
* Gyuesu to Gyes
* Girenu to Ghislaine
* Lylia/Lilya to Lilia
* Jinasu/Jenas to Jinas
* Rujierudo/Ruijird/Ruijeld to Ruijerd
* Rudy/Rudei to Rudi
* Bardy Gardy/Bardygardy/Bardigardi/BardiGadi/... to Badigadi
 

=== Words to Watch ===
* human
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 05:23, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

User:Trev lite/Mushoku Tensei Terminology

2014-08-06T10:23:12Z

Trev lite: Created page with "Saving some of my stuff here on the wiki === Magic and Sword Ranks and Titles === ===== Magic and Sword ranks ===== * Grade/Class/level -> Rank(ed) * Beginner -> elementary ra..."

User:Trev lite

2014-08-06T10:02:20Z

Trev lite:

A roaming editor.
Current projects:
* Mushoku Tensei [[Trev_lite:Mushoku Tensei Terminology]]
* Kindle Support
--[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 05:02, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

Thanks for your work! I did think it was slightly annoying when I saw the names changing from one group of chapters to the next... but could you please mark the changes as Minor Edits? It makes it easier for me (and others I assume) to browse the Recent Changes to see if anything has been updated. Thanks again! --[[User:CrimsonLord|Crimson Lord]] 11:39, 1 August 2014 (CDT)

Ok I will do that from now on. I thought that changing the name of a major character was not a minor change. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 01:06, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Thank you for updating the names.--[[User:Tasear|Tasear]] ([[User talk:Tasear|talk]]) 22:45, 3 August 2014 (CDT)

Your Welcome. If there are more names to update please ask me here or on the terminology talk page. --[[User:Trev lite|Trev lite]] ([[User talk:Trev lite|talk]]) 14:05, 4 August 2014 (CDT)