Hyouka:Volume 1 Chapter 6 - Revision history

127.0.0.1: Grammar: "Sempai" --> "Senpai"

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	It has been one year since Sekitani-~~sempai~~ left us.		It has been one year since Sekitani-senpai left us.

	During this year, ~~Sempai~~ has fallen into legend and become a hero. As a result, the five day Cultural Festival will commence as usual.		During this year, Senpai has fallen into legend and become a hero. As a result, the five day Cultural Festival will commence as usual.

	However, as the legend spread, I went into deep thought. Would people ten years from now still remember the silent warrior and the kind hero? All ~~Sempai~~ has left behind is this anthology "Hyouka", for which he has provided the title.		However, as the legend spread, I went into deep thought. Would people ten years from now still remember the silent warrior and the kind hero? All Senpai has left behind is this anthology "Hyouka", for which he has provided the title.

	As a sacrifice of the conflict, even ~~Sempai~~'s smile would end up along the flow of time into eternity. <!--TL Note - DO NOT EDIT THIS SENTENCE-->		As a sacrifice of the conflict, even Senpai's smile would end up along the flow of time into eternity. <!--TL Note - DO NOT EDIT THIS SENTENCE-->

	No, perhaps it is better that we do not remember it. As it was not intended to be a heroic tale.		No, perhaps it is better that we do not remember it. As it was not intended to be a heroic tale.
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	# "~~Sempai~~" had departed. (From where?)		# "Senpai" had departed. (From where?)
	# "~~Sempai~~" became a hero 33 years ago, and had become a legend by the following year		# "Senpai" became a hero 33 years ago, and had become a legend by the following year
	# "~~Sempai~~" was a "silent warrior" and "kind hero"		# "Senpai" was a "silent warrior" and "kind hero"
	# "~~Sempai~~" named this anthology "Hyouka"		# "Senpai" named this anthology "Hyouka"
	# A conflict happened and sacrifices were made ("~~Sempai~~" = sacrifice?)		# A conflict happened and sacrifices were made ("Senpai" = sacrifice?)


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	After making sure everyone had read through the note, Chitanda continued with her explanation.		After making sure everyone had read through the note, Chitanda continued with her explanation.

	"First of all, this '~~Sempai~~', in other words my uncle, had dropped out of Kamiyama High School. His final academic level was Junior High. I hope you're all following me."		"First of all, this 'Senpai', in other words my uncle, had dropped out of Kamiyama High School. His final academic level was Junior High. I hope you're all following me."

	While this was the first time I heard Chitanda mention Sekitani Jun had dropped out of Kamiyama High School, I wasn't particularly surprised. After all, it was not hard to guess from the opening sentence of the foreword: "since Sekitani-~~sempai~~ left us".		While this was the first time I heard Chitanda mention Sekitani Jun had dropped out of Kamiyama High School, I wasn't particularly surprised. After all, it was not hard to guess from the opening sentence of the foreword: "since Sekitani-senpai left us".

	But then, Chitanda probably doesn't know the reason why her uncle dropped out... No, she definitely doesn't know. If she did, she would have mentioned it already. Come to think of it, back at the Cafe Pineapple Sandwich, she did mention that the Sekitanis and Chitandas have become estranged.		But then, Chitanda probably doesn't know the reason why her uncle dropped out... No, she definitely doesn't know. If she did, she would have mentioned it already. Come to think of it, back at the Cafe Pineapple Sandwich, she did mention that the Sekitanis and Chitandas have become estranged.

	"Second, the foreword makes a big issue out of how time has passed. The third point is interesting; besides mentioning '~~Sempai~~' as kind and silent, he's also described as a 'warrior' and 'hero'. What was he fighting for? The fifth point merely affirms that '~~Sempai~~' fought in some conflict and became a hero, and was sacrificed as a result. As for the fourth point... while I'm curious about it, it's irrelevant to the current problem for now. This concludes my report, are there any questions?"		"Second, the foreword makes a big issue out of how time has passed. The third point is interesting; besides mentioning 'Senpai' as kind and silent, he's also described as a 'warrior' and 'hero'. What was he fighting for? The fifth point merely affirms that 'Senpai' fought in some conflict and became a hero, and was sacrificed as a result. As for the fourth point... while I'm curious about it, it's irrelevant to the current problem for now. This concludes my report, are there any questions?"

	As it wasn't particularly offbeat, I didn't have much to ask.		As it wasn't particularly offbeat, I didn't have much to ask.
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	Chitanda nodded.		Chitanda nodded.

	"Good. Anyway, first, 'when'. We know it happened 33 years ago, but we don't know whether it's June or October. If the 'Unity and Salutations' is right, then it's June, while based on the description on 'Hyouka', it feels more like October. However, as both sources are quite reliable, I would say the incident occurred in June while '~~Sempai~~'s' dropping out happened in October."		"Good. Anyway, first, 'when'. We know it happened 33 years ago, but we don't know whether it's June or October. If the 'Unity and Salutations' is right, then it's June, while based on the description on 'Hyouka', it feels more like October. However, as both sources are quite reliable, I would say the incident occurred in June while 'Senpai's' dropping out happened in October."

	Looking disgruntled, Ibara raised her brows, as it was just a while ago that I pointed out the contradictions in her theory. I ignored her and continued, "Next, 'where'. There's no problem answering that: At Kamiyama High School. 'Who', according to the 'Unity and Salutations', we know the main character is Sekitani Jun, the Classics Club president. Allow me to extend this a bit here, the main character is actually the entire student body, Sekitani is just one of the many protagonists."		Looking disgruntled, Ibara raised her brows, as it was just a while ago that I pointed out the contradictions in her theory. I ignored her and continued, "Next, 'where'. There's no problem answering that: At Kamiyama High School. 'Who', according to the 'Unity and Salutations', we know the main character is Sekitani Jun, the Classics Club president. Allow me to extend this a bit here, the main character is actually the entire student body, Sekitani is just one of the many protagonists."
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	I took a ball pen and underlined a few lines.		I took a ball pen and underlined a few lines.

	"Here, 'During this year, ~~Sempai~~ has fallen into legend and become a hero. As a result, the five day Cultural Festival will commence as usual.' Don't you find something strange with this line?"		"Here, 'During this year, Senpai has fallen into legend and become a hero. As a result, the five day Cultural Festival will commence as usual.' Don't you find something strange with this line?"

	As nobody said anything, I continued, "We knew the Cultural Festival would commence as usual, yet why would the author add something so trivial? This means our attention should not be on 'commence as usual', but on the words 'five days'."		As nobody said anything, I continued, "We knew the Cultural Festival would commence as usual, yet why would the author add something so trivial? This means our attention should not be on 'commence as usual', but on the words 'five days'."
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	==Translator's Notes and References==		==Translator's Notes and References==
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Rxls at 18:16, 4 July 2017

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	"But... why did I end up crying that day?"		"But... why did I end up crying that day?"

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Hiro Hayase: Changed lower classmen into underclassmen

2013-01-22T22:18:48Z

Changed lower classmen into underclassmen

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	"Satoshi, are we there yet?"		"Satoshi, are we there yet?"

	Satoshi placed his ~~hankerchief~~ back in his pocket and replied, "Yup. We're pretty much there. According to your speed, of course."		Satoshi placed his handkerchief back in his pocket and replied, "Yup. We're pretty much there. According to your speed, of course."

	He then smiled.		He then smiled.
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	No, perhaps it is better that we do not remember it. As it was not intended to be a heroic tale.		No, perhaps it is better that we do not remember it. As it was not intended to be a heroic tale.

	Once the ~~subjectiveness~~ is taken away, this story will become a classic as it transcends all historical perspectives.		Once the subjectivity is taken away, this story will become a classic as it transcends all historical perspectives.


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	"... Could it be that you don't carry the handbook with you at all times? Oh, never mind. Umm, here's what it says, 'Violent behaviour is strictly forbidden'. So here is my theory,"		"... Could it be that you don't carry the handbook with you at all times? Oh, never mind. Umm, here's what it says, 'Violent behaviour is strictly forbidden'. So here is my theory,"

	Without changing the tone of her voice, Chitanda went on, "There was an unfortunate disturbance during the Kanya Festival that year, and it could be that my uncle responded to it with physical force. While he may have become a hero, he had to carry the responsibility of resorting to violence. The subsequent tragic outcome resulted in his ~~lower classmen~~ writing a eulogy for his departure."		Without changing the tone of her voice, Chitanda went on, "There was an unfortunate disturbance during the Kanya Festival that year, and it could be that my uncle responded to it with physical force. While he may have become a hero, he had to carry the responsibility of resorting to violence. The subsequent tragic outcome resulted in his underclassmen writing a eulogy for his departure."

	... Hmm...		... Hmm...

Safio: /* 6 - The Old Days of the Glorious Classics Club */

2012-12-10T06:51:07Z

6 - The Old Days of the Glorious Classics Club

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	So he does know what it means. Without looking at the copy I held, he continued without delay, "That should be read as 'sTRYfe', as in armed strife, a bitter conflict."		So he does know what it means. Without looking at the copy I held, he continued without delay, "That should be read as 'sTRYfe', as in armed strife, a bitter conflict."

	Yet Satoshi didn't seem to have taught me anything. While he was looking at me, he sounded more like he was harshly criticizing me for mispronouncing that word, yet I realized he was using me as a foil to correct Ibara as well. Whether he was skillful or not in doing it, Satoshi can be quite considerate. Though I had no intention to help out, I still persisted, "Well, though I only have 15 years worth of vocabulary, I ~~have~~'nt seen such a word used before."		Yet Satoshi didn't seem to have taught me anything. While he was looking at me, he sounded more like he was harshly criticizing me for mispronouncing that word, yet I realized he was using me as a foil to correct Ibara as well. Whether he was skillful or not in doing it, Satoshi can be quite considerate. Though I had no intention to help out, I still persisted, "Well, though I only have 15 years worth of vocabulary, I haven't seen such a word used before."

	"Of course. Normally the words 'conflict' and 'argument' would have been used, yet 'strife' seemed to be a popular word back then. We still see such words being used nowadays, but mostly by Yakuzas."		"Of course. Normally the words 'conflict' and 'argument' would have been used, yet 'strife' seemed to be a popular word back then. We still see such words being used nowadays, but mostly by Yakuzas."
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	As chairperson, Chitanda had to continue her role and asked, "Are there any further questions?"		As chairperson, Chitanda had to continue her role and asked, "Are there any further questions?"

	As there were none, Chitanda gave a big nod and concluded, "Then we shall publish our essay anthology this year based on Oreki-san's conclusions. The details will be discussed on another day. For now this meeting is ~~dismissed~~... Thanks for all the hard work."		As there were none, Chitanda gave a big nod and concluded, "Then we shall publish our essay anthology this year based on Oreki-san's conclusions. The details will be discussed on another day. For now this meeting is adjourned... Thanks for all the hard work."

	We all said our farewells.		We all said our farewells.

Dan.: Undo revision 160114 by 175.143.219.156 (talk) - that was not a typo; if you don't know the word, get a dictionary

2012-06-05T10:08:01Z

Undo revision 160114 by 175.143.219.156 (talk) - that was not a typo; if you don't know the word, get a dictionary

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	Satoshi followed, "The Fictional Heroic Tale to be solved by their juniors 33 years later, huh? I just happened to be researching into stuff from that period."		Satoshi followed, "The Fictional Heroic Tale to be solved by their juniors 33 years later, huh? I just happened to be researching into stuff from that period."

	And approved with both hands raised. While I had no intention of speaking since I had no power of ~~vote~~, I decided to say something anyway since we were at it.		And approved with both hands raised. While I had no intention of speaking since I had no power of veto, I decided to say something anyway since we were at it.

	"Since we're still deciding on what to write for our essay anthology, why don't we use Chitanda's story to help fill up the pages... um, I mean, killing two birds with one stone... sorry, I mean, write something meaningful for it?"		"Since we're still deciding on what to write for our essay anthology, why don't we use Chitanda's story to help fill up the pages... um, I mean, killing two birds with one stone... sorry, I mean, write something meaningful for it?"

175.143.219.156 at 05:45, 5 June 2012

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	Satoshi followed, "The Fictional Heroic Tale to be solved by their juniors 33 years later, huh? I just happened to be researching into stuff from that period."		Satoshi followed, "The Fictional Heroic Tale to be solved by their juniors 33 years later, huh? I just happened to be researching into stuff from that period."

	And approved with both hands raised. While I had no intention of speaking since I had no power of ~~veto~~, I decided to say something anyway since we were at it.		And approved with both hands raised. While I had no intention of speaking since I had no power of vote, I decided to say something anyway since we were at it.

	"Since we're still deciding on what to write for our essay anthology, why don't we use Chitanda's story to help fill up the pages... um, I mean, killing two birds with one stone... sorry, I mean, write something meaningful for it?"		"Since we're still deciding on what to write for our essay anthology, why don't we use Chitanda's story to help fill up the pages... um, I mean, killing two birds with one stone... sorry, I mean, write something meaningful for it?"

Morgi: /* 6 - The Old Days of the Glorious Classics Club */

2012-05-02T06:51:17Z

6 - The Old Days of the Glorious Classics Club

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	On the other hand, it was clear why Chitanda's theory was overturned. Simply put, the Kamiyama High School Cultural Festival is held every October, yet this passage mentions the incident happening in June. I see, so that's why the theory's rejected.		On the other hand, it was clear why Chitanda's theory was overturned. Simply put, the Kamiyama High School Cultural Festival is held every October, yet this passage mentions the incident happening in June. I see, so that's why the theory's rejected.

	Ibara took out a college-style memo notebook from her uniform pocket and continued, "Sorry, I haven't written any summaries the way Chi-chan did, so I'll just say them out loud. Firstly, 'we, the Masses' has been accused of being anti-establishment. There was a '~~strife~~' that happened in June the previous year. They were assisted by Sekitani Jun, and resorted to some sort of pragmatism thanks to that. This caused troubles for the Powers That Be. The rest of the passage may be interesting, but they don't seem to have anything else relevant about the incident."		Ibara took out a college-style memo notebook from her uniform pocket and continued, "Sorry, I haven't written any summaries the way Chi-chan did, so I'll just say them out loud. Firstly, 'we, the Masses' has been accused of being anti-establishment. There was a 'streef' that happened in June the previous year. They were assisted by Sekitani Jun, and resorted to some sort of pragmatism thanks to that. This caused troubles for the Powers That Be. The rest of the passage may be interesting, but they don't seem to have anything else relevant about the incident."

	I had no objection to her speech, but what on earth is a 'streef' anyway? I browsed through my own vocabulary in my head and could find nothing. Not that my vocabulary was particularly huge to begin with.		I had no objection to her speech, but what on earth is a 'streef' anyway? I browsed through my own vocabulary in my head and could find nothing. Not that my vocabulary was particularly huge to begin with.

Morgi: /* 6 - The Old Days of the Glorious Classics Club */

2012-05-02T06:50:10Z

6 - The Old Days of the Glorious Classics Club

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	On the other hand, it was clear why Chitanda's theory was overturned. Simply put, the Kamiyama High School Cultural Festival is held every October, yet this passage mentions the incident happening in June. I see, so that's why the theory's rejected.		On the other hand, it was clear why Chitanda's theory was overturned. Simply put, the Kamiyama High School Cultural Festival is held every October, yet this passage mentions the incident happening in June. I see, so that's why the theory's rejected.

	Ibara took out a college-style memo notebook from her uniform pocket and continued, "Sorry, I haven't written any summaries the way Chi-chan did, so I'll just say them out loud. Firstly, 'we, the Masses' has been accused of being anti-establishment. There was a '~~streef~~' that happened in June the previous year. They were assisted by Sekitani Jun, and resorted to some sort of pragmatism thanks to that. This caused troubles for the Powers That Be. The rest of the passage may be interesting, but they don't seem to have anything else relevant about the incident."		Ibara took out a college-style memo notebook from her uniform pocket and continued, "Sorry, I haven't written any summaries the way Chi-chan did, so I'll just say them out loud. Firstly, 'we, the Masses' has been accused of being anti-establishment. There was a 'strife' that happened in June the previous year. They were assisted by Sekitani Jun, and resorted to some sort of pragmatism thanks to that. This caused troubles for the Powers That Be. The rest of the passage may be interesting, but they don't seem to have anything else relevant about the incident."

	I had no objection to her speech, but what on earth is a 'streef' anyway? I browsed through my own vocabulary in my head and could find nothing. Not that my vocabulary was particularly huge to begin with.		I had no objection to her speech, but what on earth is a 'streef' anyway? I browsed through my own vocabulary in my head and could find nothing. Not that my vocabulary was particularly huge to begin with.
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	"But... why did I end up crying that day?"		"But... why did I end up crying that day?"





	==Translator's notes and references==		==Translator's notes and references==

Dan. at 18:56, 1 May 2012

2012-05-01T18:56:40Z

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Kinny Riddle at 17:07, 1 May 2012

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