Talk:Daybreak on Hyperion - Revision history

SonodaYuki at 01:32, 1 January 2015

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	I'd just like to note that this novel hasn't talked much about Weichsel's civil production capacity yet. I'm of the opinion that it's probably higher than most people think. For example, the fact their officers can incorporate chemistry into battle tactics means there is widespread application of chemistry -- which only happens with at least basic industrialization of the 17+ century. - Aorii		I'd just like to note that this novel hasn't talked much about Weichsel's civil production capacity yet. I'm of the opinion that it's probably higher than most people think. For example, the fact their officers can incorporate chemistry into battle tactics means there is widespread application of chemistry -- which only happens with at least basic industrialization of the 17+ century. - Aorii

	So, we probably at least have Industrial production of steel? If the advancement is further than, Bessemer Process, steel, have they moved on to the Linz-Donawitz-Verfahren Process? What about Stainless? I know it requires steel, but I don't recall the metallurgy for obtaining it. :P Coking? Nighttime illumination (~~Kerosene~~, gas, whatever)? Textile Production? Glass? Plastic and other petrochemicals? [[User:SonodaYuki\|SonodaYuki]] ([[User talk:SonodaYuki\|talk]])		So, we probably at least have Industrial production of steel? If the advancement is further than Bessemer Process production of steel, have they moved on to the Linz-Donawitz-Verfahren (Basic Oxygen) Process? What about Stainless? I know it requires steel, but I don't recall the metallurgy for obtaining it. :P Coking? Nighttime illumination (kerosene, gas, whatever)? Textile Production? Glass? Plastic and other petrochemicals? [[User:SonodaYuki\|SonodaYuki]] ([[User talk:SonodaYuki\|talk]])

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SonodaYuki at 01:31, 1 January 2015

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	I'd just like to note that this novel hasn't talked much about Weichsel's civil production capacity yet. I'm of the opinion that it's probably higher than most people think. For example, the fact their officers can incorporate chemistry into battle tactics means there is widespread application of chemistry -- which only happens with at least basic industrialization of the 17+ century. - Aorii		I'd just like to note that this novel hasn't talked much about Weichsel's civil production capacity yet. I'm of the opinion that it's probably higher than most people think. For example, the fact their officers can incorporate chemistry into battle tactics means there is widespread application of chemistry -- which only happens with at least basic industrialization of the 17+ century. - Aorii

			So, we probably at least have Industrial production of steel? If the advancement is further than, Bessemer Process, steel, have they moved on to the Linz-Donawitz-Verfahren Process? What about Stainless? I know it requires steel, but I don't recall the metallurgy for obtaining it. :P Coking? Nighttime illumination (Kerosene, gas, whatever)? Textile Production? Glass? Plastic and other petrochemicals? [[User:SonodaYuki\|SonodaYuki]] ([[User talk:SonodaYuki\|talk]])

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Aorii at 07:39, 19 December 2014

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	Although, part of the reason for the industrial revolution in the first place was Britain's agricultural one freeing up laborers, which stemmed from the shift to a four crop rotation (The one mentioned in Maoyuu is the same or similar to the one I'm thinking of), use of the seed drill, and extensive land reclamation, among other things. So basically, there's plenty of points that may or may not be improved upon, but it'd create, or rather, requires a massive shift in the... the word's on the tip of my tongue, but I'll just substitute it with "flow of people". [[User:SonodaYuki\|SonodaYuki]] ([[User talk:SonodaYuki\|talk]])		Although, part of the reason for the industrial revolution in the first place was Britain's agricultural one freeing up laborers, which stemmed from the shift to a four crop rotation (The one mentioned in Maoyuu is the same or similar to the one I'm thinking of), use of the seed drill, and extensive land reclamation, among other things. So basically, there's plenty of points that may or may not be improved upon, but it'd create, or rather, requires a massive shift in the... the word's on the tip of my tongue, but I'll just substitute it with "flow of people". [[User:SonodaYuki\|SonodaYuki]] ([[User talk:SonodaYuki\|talk]])

			I'd just like to note that this novel hasn't talked much about Weichsel's civil production capacity yet. I'm of the opinion that it's probably higher than most people think. For example, the fact their officers can incorporate chemistry into battle tactics means there is widespread application of chemistry -- which only happens with at least basic industrialization of the 17+ century. - Aorii

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SonodaYuki at 04:59, 19 December 2014

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	Haha, go ahead I guess. I should note that I won't hold back from introducing a tech should the opportunity arise. But in my experience an overly technical-oriented approach often (1) belittles the local charas when dropping simple ideas that should of been thought up by people of its era or (2) use tech that is obviously beyond their level because the writer lacks appreciation for a "tech base" (i.e. rocketry requires a strong chemicals industry). Etc. - Aorii		Haha, go ahead I guess. I should note that I won't hold back from introducing a tech should the opportunity arise. But in my experience an overly technical-oriented approach often (1) belittles the local charas when dropping simple ideas that should of been thought up by people of its era or (2) use tech that is obviously beyond their level because the writer lacks appreciation for a "tech base" (i.e. rocketry requires a strong chemicals industry). Etc. - Aorii

			Pascal May be a Soldier, but there's no reason any technological advancements Kaede might introduce have to be used for military applications. Depending on how pervasive the use of magic is, use of nitrate salts could prove invaluable in the agricultural sector. Although you'd need a large enough scale production of nitric acid (That is, Aqua Fortis. Vintersvend's production requires archmage level Magic, IIRC, and medieval methods involve using saltpeter), and therefore a large enough scale production of ammonia if you don't plan on making it with a nitrate (which would defeat the purpose). If you were to obtain ammonia from the Haber Process, you'd need a container capable of withstanding a couple hundred atm. or so... So we'd probably need a blooming Steel industry before we even think about making nitrates on a large scale, you'd probably want to employ the Bessemer process for cheap steel. And unless you want large scale deforestation, a coal industry to match it... So by this point, you'd need already need a miniature industrial revolution to develop an nitrate based agricultural one. This is pretty difficult.

			Although, part of the reason for the industrial revolution in the first place was Britain's agricultural one freeing up laborers, which stemmed from the shift to a four crop rotation (The one mentioned in Maoyuu is the same or similar to the one I'm thinking of), use of the seed drill, and extensive land reclamation, among other things. So basically, there's plenty of points that may or may not be improved upon, but it'd create, or rather, requires a massive shift in the... the word's on the tip of my tongue, but I'll just substitute it with "flow of people". [[User:SonodaYuki\|SonodaYuki]] ([[User talk:SonodaYuki\|talk]])
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Aorii at 18:45, 26 September 2014

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	That's a relief :) with your personal life going as is, how long would it be before you can focus on the novel again? (cause i check this pre' much daily)		That's a relief :) with your personal life going as is, how long would it be before you can focus on the novel again? (cause i check this pre' much daily)

			I'm not sure if this is something I 'focus' on, since it's not something I can just pump out and finish in a few weeks' time ^^" also because I need time to consider and edit before things are published here. Nevertheless updates should run more often now that I'm not spending a month packing/unpacking/moving homes. I'll try to keep it up to once per 2-3 weeks. Thanks for the encouragement though =) -- Aorii

Animefreak: /* this still being continued? */

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	Yes I am. I was just really busy. Having to juggle a full-time job + PM training + personal life while keeping this up is hard xD. As for those two characters... eh... their relationship is/will be weird. "It's complicated" may be the best descriptor ^^" -- Aorii		Yes I am. I was just really busy. Having to juggle a full-time job + PM training + personal life while keeping this up is hard xD. As for those two characters... eh... their relationship is/will be weird. "It's complicated" may be the best descriptor ^^" -- Aorii

			That's a relief :) with your personal life going as is, how long would it be before you can focus on the novel again? (cause i check this pre' much daily)

Aorii at 15:03, 23 September 2014

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	Hey again, guessing you're also having trouble with the forums if you're commenting here? ^^" Anyhow, I'd have to read up on mass drivers again. If I remember correctly the problem lay in the energy-exchange efficiency... moving a project isn't hard, moving it with enough speed to be worth the bulk is something else. There's a reason somewhere why the US Navy didn't start experimenting with railguns until recent decades. - Aorii		Hey again, guessing you're also having trouble with the forums if you're commenting here? ^^" Anyhow, I'd have to read up on mass drivers again. If I remember correctly the problem lay in the energy-exchange efficiency... moving a project isn't hard, moving it with enough speed to be worth the bulk is something else. There's a reason somewhere why the US Navy didn't start experimenting with railguns until recent decades. - Aorii


	== this still being continued? ==		== this still being continued? ==

	Are you still making chapters for this novel because I love it. Also, do you intend to have some relationship between Pascel and Kaede? (I'd personally prefer nothing there but oh well)		Are you still making chapters for this novel because I love it. Also, do you intend to have some relationship between Pascel and Kaede? (I'd personally prefer nothing there but oh well)

			Yes I am. I was just really busy. Having to juggle a full-time job + PM training + personal life while keeping this up is hard xD. As for those two characters... eh... their relationship is/will be weird. "It's complicated" may be the best descriptor ^^" -- Aorii

Animefreak at 05:35, 19 September 2014

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	Hey again, guessing you're also having trouble with the forums if you're commenting here? ^^" Anyhow, I'd have to read up on mass drivers again. If I remember correctly the problem lay in the energy-exchange efficiency... moving a project isn't hard, moving it with enough speed to be worth the bulk is something else. There's a reason somewhere why the US Navy didn't start experimenting with railguns until recent decades. - Aorii		Hey again, guessing you're also having trouble with the forums if you're commenting here? ^^" Anyhow, I'd have to read up on mass drivers again. If I remember correctly the problem lay in the energy-exchange efficiency... moving a project isn't hard, moving it with enough speed to be worth the bulk is something else. There's a reason somewhere why the US Navy didn't start experimenting with railguns until recent decades. - Aorii

	~~== this still being continued? ==~~

	~~Are you still making chapters for this novel because I love it. Also, do you intend to have some relationship between Pascel and Kaede? (I'd personally prefer nothing there but oh well)~~

	== this still being continued? ==		== this still being continued? ==

	Are you still making chapters for this novel because I love it. Also, do you intend to have some relationship between Pascel and Kaede? (I'd personally prefer nothing there but oh well)		Are you still making chapters for this novel because I love it. Also, do you intend to have some relationship between Pascel and Kaede? (I'd personally prefer nothing there but oh well)

Animefreak: /* this still being continued? */ new section

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	Hey again, guessing you're also having trouble with the forums if you're commenting here? ^^" Anyhow, I'd have to read up on mass drivers again. If I remember correctly the problem lay in the energy-exchange efficiency... moving a project isn't hard, moving it with enough speed to be worth the bulk is something else. There's a reason somewhere why the US Navy didn't start experimenting with railguns until recent decades. - Aorii		Hey again, guessing you're also having trouble with the forums if you're commenting here? ^^" Anyhow, I'd have to read up on mass drivers again. If I remember correctly the problem lay in the energy-exchange efficiency... moving a project isn't hard, moving it with enough speed to be worth the bulk is something else. There's a reason somewhere why the US Navy didn't start experimenting with railguns until recent decades. - Aorii

			== this still being continued? ==

			Are you still making chapters for this novel because I love it. Also, do you intend to have some relationship between Pascel and Kaede? (I'd personally prefer nothing there but oh well)

	== this still being continued? ==		== this still being continued? ==

	Are you still making chapters for this novel because I love it. Also, do you intend to have some relationship between Pascel and Kaede? (I'd personally prefer nothing there but oh well)		Are you still making chapters for this novel because I love it. Also, do you intend to have some relationship between Pascel and Kaede? (I'd personally prefer nothing there but oh well)

Animefreak: /* this still being continued? */ new section

2014-09-19T05:34:54Z

this still being continued?: new section

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	Hey again, guessing you're also having trouble with the forums if you're commenting here? ^^" Anyhow, I'd have to read up on mass drivers again. If I remember correctly the problem lay in the energy-exchange efficiency... moving a project isn't hard, moving it with enough speed to be worth the bulk is something else. There's a reason somewhere why the US Navy didn't start experimenting with railguns until recent decades. - Aorii		Hey again, guessing you're also having trouble with the forums if you're commenting here? ^^" Anyhow, I'd have to read up on mass drivers again. If I remember correctly the problem lay in the energy-exchange efficiency... moving a project isn't hard, moving it with enough speed to be worth the bulk is something else. There's a reason somewhere why the US Navy didn't start experimenting with railguns until recent decades. - Aorii

			== this still being continued? ==

			Are you still making chapters for this novel because I love it. Also, do you intend to have some relationship between Pascel and Kaede? (I'd personally prefer nothing there but oh well)