Talk:IS:Volume1 Chapter1 - Revision history

Teh Ping: /* Translation style */

2012-12-15T08:37:06Z

Translation style

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	Yeah, I do like it too. I'm thinking of doing the 'alternate' tabs on one page kind of thing too. Let me try out this one.--[[User:Teh Ping\|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping\|talk]]) 02:25, 15 December 2012 (CST)		Yeah, I do like it too. I'm thinking of doing the 'alternate' tabs on one page kind of thing too. Let me try out this one.--[[User:Teh Ping\|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping\|talk]]) 02:25, 15 December 2012 (CST)

			Well, I managed to do up a rewrite nav and stuff for the entire series. Just carry on. Don't mind me now.--[[User:Teh Ping\|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping\|talk]]) 02:37, 15 December 2012 (CST)

Teh Ping: /* Translation style */

2012-12-15T08:25:28Z

Translation style

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	Isn't that easy enough to do on a sub-page? Like, [[IS:Volume1 Chapter1/natural translation]] or [[IS:Volume1 Chapter1/literal translation]]? I kinda liked FyreHeart's attempt. (Though, to be fair, I did think the rhetorical questions and interjections like "Awkward!" was somewhat...petulant, for a YA novel style.) -[[User:AKAAkira\|Akira]] ([[User talk:AKAAkira\|talk]]) 01:57, 15 December 2012 (CST)		Isn't that easy enough to do on a sub-page? Like, [[IS:Volume1 Chapter1/natural translation]] or [[IS:Volume1 Chapter1/literal translation]]? I kinda liked FyreHeart's attempt. (Though, to be fair, I did think the rhetorical questions and interjections like "Awkward!" was somewhat...petulant, for a YA novel style.) -[[User:AKAAkira\|Akira]] ([[User talk:AKAAkira\|talk]]) 01:57, 15 December 2012 (CST)

			Yeah, I do like it too. I'm thinking of doing the 'alternate' tabs on one page kind of thing too. Let me try out this one.--[[User:Teh Ping\|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping\|talk]]) 02:25, 15 December 2012 (CST)

AKAAkira: /* Maybe I'm nitpicking but... */

2012-12-15T07:57:35Z

Maybe I'm nitpicking but...

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	When Cecilia first speaks with Ichika, there is this line:		When Cecilia first speaks with Ichika, there is this line:
	"She pointed her thumb at me, her fingertips nearly touching the tip of my nose." Shouldn't we replace "thumb" by finger ? I feel it doesn't sound right like that.		"She pointed her thumb at me, her fingertips nearly touching the tip of my nose." Shouldn't we replace "thumb" by finger ? I feel it doesn't sound right like that.

			== Translation style ==

	Before Teh_ping comes in and start asking, I'll like to ask, what's with the rewrites?--[[User:Watahashi Kazuyoei\|Watahashi Kazuyoei]] ([[User talk:Watahashi Kazuyoei\|talk]]) 23:05, 14 December 2012 (CST)		Before Teh_ping comes in and start asking, I'll like to ask, what's with the rewrites?--[[User:Watahashi Kazuyoei\|Watahashi Kazuyoei]] ([[User talk:Watahashi Kazuyoei\|talk]]) 23:05, 14 December 2012 (CST)
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	To be fair, I don't really have an idea of how Yen Press and Little Brown does Haruhi and Spice & Wolf, so I have no actual idea of the translation styles that is being used in the West. However, I would have appreciated if you asked around. I do like the new style, but we are amateurs in the first place XD. I can accept it if there were a separate (localized) version of it, but unfortunately, I won't be around for much longer to implement the templates. (and I have no idea who I can hand over the role of supervisor to)--[[User:Teh Ping\|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping\|talk]]) 01:34, 15 December 2012 (CST)		To be fair, I don't really have an idea of how Yen Press and Little Brown does Haruhi and Spice & Wolf, so I have no actual idea of the translation styles that is being used in the West. However, I would have appreciated if you asked around. I do like the new style, but we are amateurs in the first place XD. I can accept it if there were a separate (localized) version of it, but unfortunately, I won't be around for much longer to implement the templates. (and I have no idea who I can hand over the role of supervisor to)--[[User:Teh Ping\|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping\|talk]]) 01:34, 15 December 2012 (CST)

			Isn't that easy enough to do on a sub-page? Like, [[IS:Volume1 Chapter1/natural translation]] or [[IS:Volume1 Chapter1/literal translation]]? I kinda liked FyreHeart's attempt. (Though, to be fair, I did think the rhetorical questions and interjections like "Awkward!" was somewhat...petulant, for a YA novel style.) -[[User:AKAAkira\|Akira]] ([[User talk:AKAAkira\|talk]]) 01:57, 15 December 2012 (CST)

Teh Ping: /* Maybe I'm nitpicking but... */

2012-12-15T07:34:36Z

Maybe I'm nitpicking but...

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	I was under the impression that's the point of a native speaker editing a translation: to make it flow like it would in the native language. It's the same concept as a poetic translation in music: to cross cultural as well as linguistic barriers, while maintaining the core of the work. I am a published technical writer and YA author, so I thought I could broaden the appeal of a series I love. That said, I don't mean to offend, so if the community prefers I'll keep my edits to myself, I'll do so. --[[User:FyreHeart\|FyreHeart]] 23:23, 14 December 2012 (PST)		I was under the impression that's the point of a native speaker editing a translation: to make it flow like it would in the native language. It's the same concept as a poetic translation in music: to cross cultural as well as linguistic barriers, while maintaining the core of the work. I am a published technical writer and YA author, so I thought I could broaden the appeal of a series I love. That said, I don't mean to offend, so if the community prefers I'll keep my edits to myself, I'll do so. --[[User:FyreHeart\|FyreHeart]] 23:23, 14 December 2012 (PST)

			To be fair, I don't really have an idea of how Yen Press and Little Brown does Haruhi and Spice & Wolf, so I have no actual idea of the translation styles that is being used in the West. However, I would have appreciated if you asked around. I do like the new style, but we are amateurs in the first place XD. I can accept it if there were a separate (localized) version of it, but unfortunately, I won't be around for much longer to implement the templates. (and I have no idea who I can hand over the role of supervisor to)--[[User:Teh Ping\|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping\|talk]]) 01:34, 15 December 2012 (CST)

FyreHeart at 07:24, 15 December 2012

2012-12-15T07:24:03Z

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	We're talking about Japanese Light Novels, not English Young Adult fiction here. There's a notable difference in styles, including long-winded terms and visible silences...I have to be blunt here, this rewrite is basically rewriting the entire story according to how a fan wants it, not the author. You don't clamp that many lines into one paragraph for example. The formatting is like that for a reason.--[[User:Teh Ping\|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping\|talk]]) 01:12, 15 December 2012 (CST)		We're talking about Japanese Light Novels, not English Young Adult fiction here. There's a notable difference in styles, including long-winded terms and visible silences...I have to be blunt here, this rewrite is basically rewriting the entire story according to how a fan wants it, not the author. You don't clamp that many lines into one paragraph for example. The formatting is like that for a reason.--[[User:Teh Ping\|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping\|talk]]) 01:12, 15 December 2012 (CST)

			I was under the impression that's the point of a native speaker editing a translation: to make it flow like it would in the native language. It's the same concept as a poetic translation in music: to cross cultural as well as linguistic barriers, while maintaining the core of the work. I am a published technical writer and YA author, so I thought I could broaden the appeal of a series I love. That said, I don't mean to offend, so if the community prefers I'll keep my edits to myself, I'll do so. --[[User:FyreHeart\|FyreHeart]] 23:23, 14 December 2012 (PST)

Teh Ping: /* Maybe I'm nitpicking but... */

2012-12-15T07:12:54Z

Maybe I'm nitpicking but...

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	Before Teh_ping comes in and start asking, I'll like to ask, what's with the rewrites?--[[User:Watahashi Kazuyoei\|Watahashi Kazuyoei]] ([[User talk:Watahashi Kazuyoei\|talk]]) 23:05, 14 December 2012 (CST)		Before Teh_ping comes in and start asking, I'll like to ask, what's with the rewrites?--[[User:Watahashi Kazuyoei\|Watahashi Kazuyoei]] ([[User talk:Watahashi Kazuyoei\|talk]]) 23:05, 14 December 2012 (CST)

			We're talking about Japanese Light Novels, not English Young Adult fiction here. There's a notable difference in styles, including long-winded terms and visible silences...I have to be blunt here, this rewrite is basically rewriting the entire story according to how a fan wants it, not the author. You don't clamp that many lines into one paragraph for example. The formatting is like that for a reason.--[[User:Teh Ping\|Teh Ping]] ([[User talk:Teh Ping\|talk]]) 01:12, 15 December 2012 (CST)

Watahashi Kazuyoei at 05:05, 15 December 2012

2012-12-15T05:05:02Z

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	When Cecilia first speaks with Ichika, there is this line:		When Cecilia first speaks with Ichika, there is this line:
	"She pointed her thumb at me, her fingertips nearly touching the tip of my nose." Shouldn't we replace "thumb" by finger ? I feel it doesn't sound right like that.		"She pointed her thumb at me, her fingertips nearly touching the tip of my nose." Shouldn't we replace "thumb" by finger ? I feel it doesn't sound right like that.

			Before Teh_ping comes in and start asking, I'll like to ask, what's with the rewrites?--[[User:Watahashi Kazuyoei\|Watahashi Kazuyoei]] ([[User talk:Watahashi Kazuyoei\|talk]]) 23:05, 14 December 2012 (CST)

Bnns: /* IS: Outstanding Translation Questions */

2012-05-31T05:37:21Z

IS: Outstanding Translation Questions

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	'''Line ~320:''' Incidentally, while the IS institute is a profit-earning business, 'there is also education about IS, that make up the daily courses'. <nowiki><!-- bnns: while it's a business they still teach isn't that what they finished saying up until now that it's a school for training IS pilots this is the first we've heard that it's a business? Is this irony or sarcasm? --></nowiki>		'''Line ~320:''' Incidentally, while the IS institute is a profit-earning business, 'there is also education about IS, that make up the daily courses'. <nowiki><!-- bnns: while it's a business they still teach isn't that what they finished saying up until now that it's a school for training IS pilots this is the first we've heard that it's a business? Is this irony or sarcasm? --></nowiki>

	'''Line 359:''' By the way, even though the IS Academy is the world's only specialized IS school, 'a lot of schools with the intention of sending students'<nowiki><!--bnns: hasn't explained why they have they have the '~~intention~~' does it mean advance?--></nowiki>, enter the IS study program, so they can enter advanced studies.		'''Line 359:''' By the way, even though the IS Academy is the world's only specialized IS school, 'a lot of schools with the intention of sending students'<nowiki><!--bnns: hasn't explained why they have they have the intention of 'sending' does it mean advance?--></nowiki>, enter the IS study program, so they can enter advanced studies.

	== IS: Questions' Answers ==		== IS: Questions' Answers ==

Bnns: /* IS: Outstanding Translation Questions */ '''Line 359:'''

2012-05-31T05:35:22Z

IS: Outstanding Translation Questions: '''Line 359:'''

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	'''Line ~320:''' Incidentally, while the IS institute is a profit-earning business, 'there is also education about IS, that make up the daily courses'. <nowiki><!-- bnns: while it's a business they still teach isn't that what they finished saying up until now that it's a school for training IS pilots this is the first we've heard that it's a business? Is this irony or sarcasm? --></nowiki>		'''Line ~320:''' Incidentally, while the IS institute is a profit-earning business, 'there is also education about IS, that make up the daily courses'. <nowiki><!-- bnns: while it's a business they still teach isn't that what they finished saying up until now that it's a school for training IS pilots this is the first we've heard that it's a business? Is this irony or sarcasm? --></nowiki>

			'''Line 359:''' By the way, even though the IS Academy is the world's only specialized IS school, 'a lot of schools with the intention of sending students'<nowiki><!--bnns: hasn't explained why they have they have the 'intention' does it mean advance?--></nowiki>, enter the IS study program, so they can enter advanced studies.

	== IS: Questions' Answers ==		== IS: Questions' Answers ==

Bnns: Added Translation Question

2012-05-31T05:23:24Z

Added Translation Question

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	'''Line Unknown:''' A certain country 'A' <nowiki><!-- BNNS: not sure which country is 'A'. --></nowiki>is really a rogue.		'''Line Unknown:''' A certain country 'A' <nowiki><!-- BNNS: not sure which country is 'A'. --></nowiki>is really a rogue.

			'''Line ~320:''' Incidentally, while the IS institute is a profit-earning business, 'there is also education about IS, that make up the daily courses'. <nowiki><!-- bnns: while it's a business they still teach isn't that what they finished saying up until now that it's a school for training IS pilots this is the first we've heard that it's a business? Is this irony or sarcasm? --></nowiki>

	== IS: Questions' Answers ==		== IS: Questions' Answers ==