Talk:Kara no Kyoukai - Revision history

IStoleThePies: /* New translation */ new section

2024-12-26T17:31:41Z

New translation: new section

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	==Completed translation==		==Completed translation==
	For anyone interested, a translation was completed here: http://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/		For anyone interested, a translation was completed here: http://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/

			== New translation ==

			Kara no Kyoukai recently got a complete translation on [https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9807-Proto-s-thread-for-the-PDFs-he-does Beast's Lair]. Can someone please replace the link to the full translation at the top of [[Kara no Kyoukai#Kara no Kyoukai Series by Kinoko Nasu\|this section]] with the new one? The currently linked translation (the Cokesakto one) is widely [https://www.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/nstwsr/kara_no_kyoukai_and_why_cokesakto_sucks_ass/ regarded as fanfiction]. [[User:IStoleThePies\|IStoleThePies]] ([[User talk:IStoleThePies\|talk]]) 18:31, 26 December 2024 (CET)

65.175.171.11 at 20:15, 1 August 2011

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	Keep up the good work please, I really want to read the Spiral Paradox =)		Keep up the good work please, I really want to read the Spiral Paradox =)

			==Completed translation==
			For anyone interested, a translation was completed here: http://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/

89.132.212.84 at 20:15, 24 August 2010

2010-08-24T20:15:26Z

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	-no, it's right. that's how the original titles worked in the japanese version.		-no, it's right. that's how the original titles worked in the japanese version.

			Keep up the good work please, I really want to read the Spiral Paradox =)

81.86.251.127: /* distinction between sorcery and magic */

2010-05-23T15:03:35Z

distinction between sorcery and magic

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	wait, wait, wait - it's the other way around. magic/magecraft is using arcane methods to achieve what can be achieved given enough time, while SORCERY is bringing about miracles that magic/magecraft can't ever bring about. it's explicitly explained at the beginning of fate/stay night. -- Anonymous		wait, wait, wait - it's the other way around. magic/magecraft is using arcane methods to achieve what can be achieved given enough time, while SORCERY is bringing about miracles that magic/magecraft can't ever bring about. it's explicitly explained at the beginning of fate/stay night. -- Anonymous


			--- Really, it's just a translation issue. Some people/sites/projects call one 'magic' or 'sorcery' or 'magecraft' and the other a different one. It really would be easier just to refer to them by the original Japanese: 魔法 - mahou and 魔術 - majutsu. Majutsu ('Magecraft' is probably the most accurate if sort of clumsy way to translate it) performs deeds that seem impossible for humans but really aren't. Mahou (for which I prefer the translation 'magic') accomplishes miracles which are absolutely beyond humanity and normal majutsu.

			To expand: 'Mahou' accomplishes miracles. Apparently (though I'm not sure about this, it does seem to fit the Nasuverse's concept of history/time), the very concept of miracles has changed over time, as science has advanced. Long ago, the vast majority of magi were therefore 'mahou' users. Now, science has discovered new things about the world, been able to show more and new things to be true/ to exist, and even do new things. Given 'magecraft' is always reproducible by current science (even if, I suppose, we haven't thought of how it's possible), the vast majority of magi are now simply 'magecraft' users. There's also something about 'mahou' creating a link to 'the root', Akasha, but that's rarely brought up.

			'Mahou' is thus currently limited to five miracles and their users. As I recall, the First is 'Denial of Nothingness' (sounds like something out of Kara no Kyoukai, but I haven't read all of those); Zelretch operates the Second, which is manipulation of parallel worlds; the Einzberns (and particularly Justicia) can/are trying to achieve the Third (materialisation/purification/something of a human soul) through the Heaven's Feel; and Aozaki Aoko performs the Fifth, which we don't know anything about, other than that she's its user. Her tendency to blow things up may or may not be related. At least one of the 'Mahou' users is dead, according to Shirou in Heaven's Feel, but the 'Mahou' type still exists, so it seems that someone else could learn how to create it. --- Seika

	==Void Shrine==		==Void Shrine==

75.158.127.209 at 01:42, 30 December 2008

2008-12-30T01:42:17Z

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			== recalled out summer ==

			just wondering, but is there anyone interested in translating recalled out summer as well?

	== Thanks ==		== Thanks ==

75.158.127.209: /* Activity */

2008-12-30T01:37:17Z

Activity

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	For volume five I think the translator messed up on the titles for the chapters. Aren't the Spiral Paradox for Kokuto to narrate? Some were titled Paradox Spiral instead of Spiral Paradox. I don't want to change it since I may be wrong.		For volume five I think the translator messed up on the titles for the chapters. Aren't the Spiral Paradox for Kokuto to narrate? Some were titled Paradox Spiral instead of Spiral Paradox. I don't want to change it since I may be wrong.

			-no, it's right. that's how the original titles worked in the japanese version.

75.158.127.209: /* distinction between sorcery and magic */

2008-12-30T01:35:48Z

distinction between sorcery and magic

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	*nope, just sorcery -> medea's (casters) sorcery is from a different age, which is why it "seems" like magic to the modern day maguses		*nope, just sorcery -> medea's (casters) sorcery is from a different age, which is why it "seems" like magic to the modern day maguses

			wait, wait, wait - it's the other way around. magic/magecraft is using arcane methods to achieve what can be achieved given enough time, while SORCERY is bringing about miracles that magic/magecraft can't ever bring about. it's explicitly explained at the beginning of fate/stay night. -- Anonymous

	==Void Shrine==		==Void Shrine==

BonekruZher at 02:03, 17 December 2008

2008-12-17T02:03:47Z

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	-Alyeris		-Alyeris


			For volume five I think the translator messed up on the titles for the chapters. Aren't the Spiral Paradox for Kokuto to narrate? Some were titled Paradox Spiral instead of Spiral Paradox. I don't want to change it since I may be wrong.

130.216.1.16: /* Activity */

2008-07-27T20:10:29Z

Activity

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	--[[User:Onizuka-gto\|Oni]] 12:33, 27 February 2008 (PST)		--[[User:Onizuka-gto\|Oni]] 12:33, 27 February 2008 (PST)

			*I'm still alive damn it XD. Although I am still on the MIA list lol.

			-Alyeris

Onizuka-gto: /* Activity */

2008-02-27T20:34:14Z

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	*:Unfortunately considering no recent activity or contact from the translator i have to concluded that this project is effectively stalled.		*:Unfortunately considering no recent activity or contact from the translator i have to concluded that this project is effectively stalled. The need for a new translator apparently clear, hopefully someone will jump in to help.

	The need for a new translator apparently clear.

	~~Hopefully~~ someone will jump in to help.

	--[[User:Onizuka-gto\|Oni]] 12:33, 27 February 2008 (PST)		--[[User:Onizuka-gto\|Oni]] 12:33, 27 February 2008 (PST)