Talk:Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei:Volume 1 Chapter 3 - Revision history

https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AMahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei%3AVolume_1_Chapter_3 Talk:Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei:Volume 1 Chapter 3 - Revision history 2026-05-03T21:51:13Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.43.1 https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_1_Chapter_3&diff=286839&oldid=prev Liryan at 01:21, 15 September 2013 2013-09-15T01:21:24Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:21, 15 September 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l25">Line 25:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 25:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As for the passage Lighthalzen was concerned with, i'm sure you got the meaning of it correct, it's quite obvious actually, japanese people talk overly polite like that all the time (at least in fiction). As for the translation, i'd go with your first literal one, if anything, just to keep the japanese feel to it, as i think pretty much anyone understand it's just courtesy and that they're not really planning on being bothersome.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As for the passage Lighthalzen was concerned with, i'm sure you got the meaning of it correct, it's quite obvious actually, japanese people talk overly polite like that all the time (at least in fiction). As for the translation, i'd go with your first literal one, if anything, just to keep the japanese feel to it, as i think pretty much anyone understand it's just courtesy and that they're not really planning on being bothersome.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Another thing i heavily worked on were punctuation marks, often missing while the sentence was phrased as a question, other times retained in japanese usage which is quite different from english (and most non-asiatic languages)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I've finished editing the chapter, would appreciate feedback before moving on to the next --[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 20:21, 14 September 2013 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Liryan https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_1_Chapter_3&diff=286337&oldid=prev Liryan at 22:49, 12 September 2013 2013-09-12T22:49:04Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:49, 12 September 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l10">Line 10:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Why does "Rin-chan" fit her better than Suzune?, I don't understand :c</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Why does "Rin-chan" fit her better than Suzune?, I don't understand :c</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I assume this is because she DOES look cute (and -chan is usually considered a "cute" honorific, though given only to females you are quite intimate with, if i remember correctly), and that is also the reason she does NOT want to be called that way (it makes her seem less serious, while she's supposed to be a composed member of the commettee)--[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 17:49, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>  </table>

Liryan https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_1_Chapter_3&diff=286336&oldid=prev Liryan at 22:34, 12 September 2013 2013-09-12T22:34:13Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:34, 12 September 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On the other hand, it would make sense if he actually went and stated the fact himself rather than attributing it to the other, and then after the reaction, came out and reassured everyone it was just a joke. --[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 16:20, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On the other hand, it would make sense if he actually went and stated the fact himself rather than attributing it to the other, and then after the reaction, came out and reassured everyone it was just a joke. --[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 16:20, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, tenses (among many other things) need to be heavily edited: if the narration is told in simple past tense, there's no reason for some random sentences in present tense; also, any reference to the past should logically be in past perfect. I will take it on myself to fix this as i read it, unless i receive any objection.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, tenses (among many other things) need to be heavily edited: if the narration is told in simple past tense, there's no reason for some random sentences in present tense <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">unless they're direct thought of th charachters</ins>; also, any reference to the past should logically be in past perfect. I will take it on myself to fix this as i read it, unless i receive any objection.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Negative clauses should also be looked upon: for now, i'm not editing heavily even though many double negatives (like all those "he didn't look to be misunderstanding things") might possibly be better turned into simple affirmative sentences, as it may be intentional on the author's part, but "nested" negative clauses should definitely be avoided in my opinion ("It looked like he did not misunderstand the situation" --->"It did not look like he misunderstood the situation")--[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 17:11, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Negative clauses should also be looked upon: for now, i'm not editing heavily even though many double negatives (like all those "he didn't look to be misunderstanding things") might possibly be better turned into simple affirmative sentences, as it may be intentional on the author's part, but "nested" negative clauses should definitely be avoided in my opinion ("It looked like he did not misunderstand the situation" --->"It did not look like he misunderstood the situation")--[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 17:11, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As for the passage Lighthalzen was concerned with, i'm sure you got the meaning of it correct, it's quite obvious actually, japanese people talk overly polite like that all the time (at least in fiction). As for the translation, i'd go with your first literal one, if anything, just to keep the japanese feel to it, as i think pretty much anyone understand it's just courtesy and that they're not really planning on being bothersome.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As for the passage Lighthalzen was concerned with, i'm sure you got the meaning of it correct, it's quite obvious actually, japanese people talk overly polite like that all the time (at least in fiction). As for the translation, i'd go with your first literal one, if anything, just to keep the japanese feel to it, as i think pretty much anyone understand it's just courtesy and that they're not really planning on being bothersome.</div></td></tr>  </table>

Liryan https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_1_Chapter_3&diff=286335&oldid=prev Liryan at 22:30, 12 September 2013 2013-09-12T22:30:17Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:30, 12 September 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l17">Line 17:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 17:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> "...Of course, that was a joke."]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> "...Of course, that was a joke."]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I can't confirm on the original, but the situation doesn't really make sense because as written he seems to just imply the other speaker was thinking something, and if that were the case, what's the point in saying you're joking? and why was everyone startled at him logically stating what the other speaker is clearly implying?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I can't confirm on the original, but the situation doesn't really make sense because as written he seems to just imply the other speaker was thinking something, and if that were the case, what's the point in saying you're joking? and why was everyone startled at him logically stating what the other speaker is clearly implying?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On the other hand, it would make sense if he actually went and stated the fact himself rather than attributing it to the other, and then after the reaction, came out and reassured everyone it was just a joke <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(that's actually exactly what happens in the scanlated manga version, by the way)</del>. --[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 16:20, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On the other hand, it would make sense if he actually went and stated the fact himself rather than attributing it to the other, and then after the reaction, came out and reassured everyone it was just a joke. --[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 16:20, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, tenses (among many other things) need to be heavily edited: if the narration is told in simple past tense, there's no reason for some random sentences in present tense; also, any reference to the past should logically be in past perfect. I will take it on myself to fix this as i read it, unless i receive any objection.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, tenses (among many other things) need to be heavily edited: if the narration is told in simple past tense, there's no reason for some random sentences in present tense; also, any reference to the past should logically be in past perfect. I will take it on myself to fix this as i read it, unless i receive any objection.</div></td></tr> </table>

Liryan https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_1_Chapter_3&diff=286333&oldid=prev Liryan at 22:23, 12 September 2013 2013-09-12T22:23:02Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:23, 12 September 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l21">Line 21:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 21:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, tenses (among many other things) need to be heavily edited: if the narration is told in simple past tense, there's no reason for some random sentences in present tense; also, any reference to the past should logically be in past perfect. I will take it on myself to fix this as i read it, unless i receive any objection.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, tenses (among many other things) need to be heavily edited: if the narration is told in simple past tense, there's no reason for some random sentences in present tense; also, any reference to the past should logically be in past perfect. I will take it on myself to fix this as i read it, unless i receive any objection.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Negative clauses should also be looked upon: for now, i'm not editing heavily even though many double negatives (like all those "he didn't look to be misunderstanding things") might possibly be better turned into simple affirmative sentences, as it may be intentional on the author's part, but "nested" negative clauses should definitely be avoided in my opinion ("It looked like he did not misunderstand the situation" --->"It did not look like he misunderstood the situation")--[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 17:11, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Negative clauses should also be looked upon: for now, i'm not editing heavily even though many double negatives (like all those "he didn't look to be misunderstanding things") might possibly be better turned into simple affirmative sentences, as it may be intentional on the author's part, but "nested" negative clauses should definitely be avoided in my opinion ("It looked like he did not misunderstand the situation" --->"It did not look like he misunderstood the situation")--[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 17:11, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">As for the passage Lighthalzen was concerned with, i'm sure you got the meaning of it correct, it's quite obvious actually, japanese people talk overly polite like that all the time (at least in fiction). As for the translation, i'd go with your first literal one, if anything, just to keep the japanese feel to it, as i think pretty much anyone understand it's just courtesy and that they're not really planning on being bothersome.</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Liryan https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_1_Chapter_3&diff=286330&oldid=prev Liryan at 22:11, 12 September 2013 2013-09-12T22:11:52Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:11, 12 September 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I can't confirm on the original, but the situation doesn't really make sense because as written he seems to just imply the other speaker was thinking something, and if that were the case, what's the point in saying you're joking? and why was everyone startled at him logically stating what the other speaker is clearly implying?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I can't confirm on the original, but the situation doesn't really make sense because as written he seems to just imply the other speaker was thinking something, and if that were the case, what's the point in saying you're joking? and why was everyone startled at him logically stating what the other speaker is clearly implying?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On the other hand, it would make sense if he actually went and stated the fact himself rather than attributing it to the other, and then after the reaction, came out and reassured everyone it was just a joke (that's actually exactly what happens in the scanlated manga version, by the way). --[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 16:20, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On the other hand, it would make sense if he actually went and stated the fact himself rather than attributing it to the other, and then after the reaction, came out and reassured everyone it was just a joke (that's actually exactly what happens in the scanlated manga version, by the way). --[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 16:20, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Also, tenses (among many other things) need to be heavily edited: if the narration is told in simple past tense, there's no reason for some random sentences in present tense; also, any reference to the past should logically be in past perfect. I will take it on myself to fix this as i read it, unless i receive any objection.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Negative clauses should also be looked upon: for now, i'm not editing heavily even though many double negatives (like all those "he didn't look to be misunderstanding things") might possibly be better turned into simple affirmative sentences, as it may be intentional on the author's part, but "nested" negative clauses should definitely be avoided in my opinion ("It looked like he did not misunderstand the situation" --->"It did not look like he misunderstood the situation")--[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 17:11, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Liryan https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_1_Chapter_3&diff=286323&oldid=prev Liryan at 21:20, 12 September 2013 2013-09-12T21:20:49Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:20, 12 September 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I think this passage is a bit off:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I think this passage is a bit off:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>"Is that so? If we weren't siblings, then we would be lovers, is that what you think?" Tatsuya calmly countered and quickly defused the explosion. Or more likely accidentally detonated it. "...Of course, that was a joke."</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[</ins>"Is that so? If we weren't siblings, then we would be lovers, is that what you think?"</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </ins>Tatsuya calmly countered and quickly defused the explosion. Or more likely accidentally detonated it.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </ins>"...Of course, that was a joke."<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I can't confirm on the original, but the situation doesn't really make sense because as written he seems to just imply the other speaker was thinking something, and if that were the case, what's the point in saying you're joking? and why was everyone startled at him logically stating what the other speaker is clearly implying?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I can't confirm on the original, but the situation doesn't really make sense because as written he seems to just imply the other speaker was thinking something, and if that were the case, what's the point in saying you're joking? and why was everyone startled at him logically stating what the other speaker is clearly implying?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On the other hand, it would make sense if he actually went and stated the fact himself rather than attributing it to the other, and then after the reaction, came out and reassured everyone it was just a joke (that's actually exactly what happens in the scanlated manga version, by the way).</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>On the other hand, it would make sense if he actually went and stated the fact himself rather than attributing it to the other, and then after the reaction, came out and reassured everyone it was just a joke (that's actually exactly what happens in the scanlated manga version, by the way). <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">--[[User:Liryan|Liryan]] ([[User talk:Liryan|talk]]) 16:20, 12 September 2013 (CDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Liryan https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_1_Chapter_3&diff=286321&oldid=prev 93.40.113.135 at 21:15, 12 September 2013 2013-09-12T21:15:14Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:15, 12 September 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l10">Line 10:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Why does "Rin-chan" fit her better than Suzune?, I don't understand :c</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Why does "Rin-chan" fit her better than Suzune?, I don't understand :c</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I think this passage is a bit off:</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"Is that so? If we weren't siblings, then we would be lovers, is that what you think?" Tatsuya calmly countered and quickly defused the explosion. Or more likely accidentally detonated it. "...Of course, that was a joke."</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I can't confirm on the original, but the situation doesn't really make sense because as written he seems to just imply the other speaker was thinking something, and if that were the case, what's the point in saying you're joking? and why was everyone startled at him logically stating what the other speaker is clearly implying?</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">On the other hand, it would make sense if he actually went and stated the fact himself rather than attributing it to the other, and then after the reaction, came out and reassured everyone it was just a joke (that's actually exactly what happens in the scanlated manga version, by the way).</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

93.40.113.135 https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_1_Chapter_3&diff=252741&oldid=prev 190.20.230.7 at 19:22, 20 May 2013 2013-05-20T19:22:08Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:22, 20 May 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also for the line "Maybe it was to interest Miyuki?" (!), it would be better to use "Maybe it was to recruit Miyuki?" for 勧誘に</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also for the line "Maybe it was to interest Miyuki?" (!), it would be better to use "Maybe it was to recruit Miyuki?" for 勧誘に</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>--[[User:Lighthalzen|Lighthalzen]] ([[User talk:Lighthalzen|talk]]) 00:10, 21 November 2012 (CST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>--[[User:Lighthalzen|Lighthalzen]] ([[User talk:Lighthalzen|talk]]) 00:10, 21 November 2012 (CST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Why does "Rin-chan" fit her better than Suzune?, I don't understand :c</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

190.20.230.7 https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Talk:Mahouka_Koukou_no_Rettousei:Volume_1_Chapter_3&diff=206907&oldid=prev Lighthalzen at 06:23, 21 November 2012 2012-11-21T06:23:49Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:23, 21 November 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In regards to the translation "I understand. Miyuki and I will call on you then." (分かりました. 深雪と二人でお邪魔させていただきます)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In regards to the translation "I understand. Miyuki and I will call on you then." (分かりました. 深雪と二人でお邪魔させていただきます)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I feel like "I understand. Miyuki and I will be imposing on you for the meal" but then that bugs me a bit.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I feel like "I understand. Miyuki and I will be imposing on you for the meal" but then that bugs me a bit.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Depending on how liberal you want to be, I think "Very well. Miyuki and I will gratefully accept your offer" would still retain the core meaning and formality. --[[User:Lighthalzen|Lighthalzen]] ([[User talk:Lighthalzen|talk]]) 00:10, 21 November 2012 (CST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Depending on how liberal you want to be, I think "Very well. Miyuki and I will gratefully accept your offer" would still retain the core meaning and formality. </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Also for the line "Maybe it was to interest Miyuki?" (!), it would be better to use "Maybe it was to recruit Miyuki?" for 勧誘に</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>--[[User:Lighthalzen|Lighthalzen]] ([[User talk:Lighthalzen|talk]]) 00:10, 21 November 2012 (CST)</div></td></tr>  </table>

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