Talk:Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei:Volume 4 Chapter 10 - Revision history

216.246.241.5 at 06:28, 9 December 2012

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	:They're a little different. "You have dragged me into the mud" is more of a statement. "How you have dragged me into the mud" emphasizes that Mikihiko is also upset about getting smashed in the ground. [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 15:44, 7 December 2012 (CST)		:They're a little different. "You have dragged me into the mud" is more of a statement. "How you have dragged me into the mud" emphasizes that Mikihiko is also upset about getting smashed in the ground. [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 15:44, 7 December 2012 (CST)
			Makes sense. Thanx

	The players and auxiliaries were oblivious to this, but '''there was another reason behind the ruckus'''.		The players and auxiliaries were oblivious to this, but '''there was another reason behind the ruckus'''.

Rava at 21:44, 7 December 2012

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	Even if it is in original script, sometimes literal translations don't sound so good. Besides, isn't it acceptable if the wordings are changed a bit without affecting the original context/meaning. The above sentence is better though.		Even if it is in original script, sometimes literal translations don't sound so good. Besides, isn't it acceptable if the wordings are changed a bit without affecting the original context/meaning. The above sentence is better though.

			:They're a little different. "You have dragged me into the mud" is more of a statement. "How you have dragged me into the mud" emphasizes that Mikihiko is also upset about getting smashed in the ground. [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 15:44, 7 December 2012 (CST)


	The players and auxiliaries were oblivious to this, but '''there was another reason behind the ruckus'''.		The players and auxiliaries were oblivious to this, but '''there was another reason behind the ruckus'''.

216.246.241.5 at 04:48, 7 December 2012

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	Even if it is in original script, sometimes literal translations don't sound so good. Besides, isn't it acceptable if the wordings are changed a bit without affecting the original context/meaning. The above sentence is better though.		Even if it is in original script, sometimes literal translations don't sound so good. Besides, isn't it acceptable if the wordings are changed a bit without affecting the original context/meaning. The above sentence is better though.

			The players and auxiliaries were oblivious to this, but '''there was another reason behind the ruckus'''.
			The reason came from the observation deck near the board chairman's room. -- No context was given about the ruckus.

	== Disadvantage and "No" advantage ==		== Disadvantage and "No" advantage ==

216.246.241.5 at 04:17, 7 December 2012

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	If "how" is in the original translation, this makes more sense: Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''how''' you have dragged me into the mud! Come, allow me to return the favor! [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 19:05, 6 December 2012 (CST)		If "how" is in the original translation, this makes more sense: Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''how''' you have dragged me into the mud! Come, allow me to return the favor! [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 19:05, 6 December 2012 (CST)

	Even if it is in original script, sometimes literal translations don't sound so good. Besides, isn't it acceptable if the wordings are changed a bit without affecting the original context/meaning.		Even if it is in original script, sometimes literal translations don't sound so good. Besides, isn't it acceptable if the wordings are changed a bit without affecting the original context/meaning. The above sentence is better though.

	== Disadvantage and "No" advantage ==		== Disadvantage and "No" advantage ==

216.246.241.5 at 04:16, 7 December 2012

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	If "how" is in the original translation, this makes more sense: Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''how''' you have dragged me into the mud! Come, allow me to return the favor! [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 19:05, 6 December 2012 (CST)		If "how" is in the original translation, this makes more sense: Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''how''' you have dragged me into the mud! Come, allow me to return the favor! [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 19:05, 6 December 2012 (CST)

			Even if it is in original script, sometimes literal translations don't sound so good. Besides, isn't it acceptable if the wordings are changed a bit without affecting the original context/meaning.

	== Disadvantage and "No" advantage ==		== Disadvantage and "No" advantage ==

Rava: /* Disadvantage and "No" advantage */

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Disadvantage and "No" advantage

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	For people who don't use natively use English:		For people who don't use natively use English:

	"Disadvantage" is not the same thing as "no advantage." [https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Disadvantage&oq=Disadvantage&gs_l=hp.3..0i20l2j0l2.1281.3241.0.4207.12.6.0.6.6.0.137.732.0j6.6.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.T37gxACotDM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=6cac8731b3eaff51&bpcl=39650382&biw=1210&bih=841 Something that is a "disadvantage" is literally a penalty]. Something that has no advantage does not give you a benefit but also does not cause problems like a "disadvantage" would. The sword CAD is 70 cm long. Being able to extend it to 1 meter long does not give Leo the range advantage it was intended for but it is NOT a disadvantage either because it still follows the criteria for an object under the effect of magic. So he can still swing and hit with it.		"Disadvantage" is not the same thing as "no advantage." [https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Disadvantage&oq=Disadvantage&gs_l=hp.3..0i20l2j0l2.1281.3241.0.4207.12.6.0.6.6.0.137.732.0j6.6.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.T37gxACotDM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=6cac8731b3eaff51&bpcl=39650382&biw=1210&bih=841 Something that is a "disadvantage" is literally a penalty]. Something that has no advantage does not give you a benefit but also does not cause problems like a "disadvantage" would. The sword CAD is 70 cm long. Being able to extend it to 1 meter long does not give Leo the range advantage it was intended for but it is NOT a disadvantage either because it still follows the criteria for an object under the effect of magic. So he can still swing and hit with it. [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 19:57, 6 December 2012 (CST)

			An example of it being a DISadvantage would be if using the Sword CAD counted as foul play. Since using it would cause more problems, that would make it a disadvantage. No advantage and Disadvantage do not mean the same thing at all, and making it "sound" better by making the meaning wrong is the wrong way to go at this. [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 19:57, 6 December 2012 (CST)

Rava: /* Disadvantage and "No" advantage */ new section

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Disadvantage and "No" advantage: new section

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	If "how" is in the original translation, this makes more sense: Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''how''' you have dragged me into the mud! Come, allow me to return the favor! [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 19:05, 6 December 2012 (CST)		If "how" is in the original translation, this makes more sense: Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''how''' you have dragged me into the mud! Come, allow me to return the favor! [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 19:05, 6 December 2012 (CST)

			== Disadvantage and "No" advantage ==

			For people who don't use natively use English:

			"Disadvantage" is not the same thing as "no advantage." [https://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Disadvantage&oq=Disadvantage&gs_l=hp.3..0i20l2j0l2.1281.3241.0.4207.12.6.0.6.6.0.137.732.0j6.6.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.T37gxACotDM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=6cac8731b3eaff51&bpcl=39650382&biw=1210&bih=841 Something that is a "disadvantage" is literally a penalty]. Something that has no advantage does not give you a benefit but also does not cause problems like a "disadvantage" would. The sword CAD is 70 cm long. Being able to extend it to 1 meter long does not give Leo the range advantage it was intended for but it is NOT a disadvantage either because it still follows the criteria for an object under the effect of magic. So he can still swing and hit with it.

Rava at 01:05, 7 December 2012

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	Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''you have dragged me''' into the mud! -- Come, allow me to return the favor! -- This one sounds better.		Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''you have dragged me''' into the mud! -- Come, allow me to return the favor! -- This one sounds better.

			If "how" is in the original translation, this makes more sense: Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''how''' you have dragged me into the mud! Come, allow me to return the favor! [[User:Rava\|Rava]] ([[User talk:Rava\|talk]]) 19:05, 6 December 2012 (CST)

216.246.241.5 at 00:42, 7 December 2012

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	"But, what '''is exactly is''' that?" -- "But, what '''exactly is''' that?"		"But, what '''is exactly is''' that?" -- "But, what '''exactly is''' that?"
	Kichijouji Shinkurou, you '''how''' dragged me into the mud! -- Kichijouji Shinkurou, you '''have''' dragged me into the mud!		Kichijouji Shinkurou, you '''how''' dragged me into the mud! -- Kichijouji Shinkurou, you '''have''' dragged me into the mud!

			Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''how you dragged me''' into the mud! -- Come, allow me to return the favor!

			Kichijouji Shinkurou, '''you have dragged me''' into the mud! -- Come, allow me to return the favor! -- This one sounds better.

216.246.241.5 at 10:19, 6 December 2012

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	"But, what '''is exactly is''' that?" -- "But, what '''exactly is''' that?"		"But, what '''is exactly is''' that?" -- "But, what '''exactly is''' that?"
			Kichijouji Shinkurou, you '''how''' dragged me into the mud! -- Kichijouji Shinkurou, you '''have''' dragged me into the mud!