Talk:Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance:Volume11 Prologue - Revision history

KuroiHikari at 09:15, 30 July 2013

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	Even in reverse the blade is not under the hand. to get the blade pointed down the arm the wrist is turned so no it is not the same. a sword hilt is held in the center of the palm so the blade is always to the side of the hand it is angled by the wrist to point forwards or backwards depending on if the blade is by the thumb or pinky finger. to have the hold be considered underhanded the hilt would have to between the fingers with the pommel pointed up without moving the wrist in anyway which would not work as u would stab yourself just trying to hold a dagger in this manner let alone a long sword.		Even in reverse the blade is not under the hand. to get the blade pointed down the arm the wrist is turned so no it is not the same. a sword hilt is held in the center of the palm so the blade is always to the side of the hand it is angled by the wrist to point forwards or backwards depending on if the blade is by the thumb or pinky finger. to have the hold be considered underhanded the hilt would have to between the fingers with the pommel pointed up without moving the wrist in anyway which would not work as u would stab yourself just trying to hold a dagger in this manner let alone a long sword.

			Yes, when people use underhand grip, they just refer to the blade being nearer to the palm side. There was no mention how the sword was held, how his hand, forearm, or arm were positioned. And, use of English words aren't always done literally, but really don't worry about it. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 04:15, 30 July 2013 (CDT)

75.74.97.62 at 08:36, 30 July 2013

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	Proper or not, people do use it to describe the same thing. I will say reverse is less confusing than underhand but it's still points to the blade being under the hand. When I say fancy terminology, I'm referring to the one the author marks out or style with English, trying to make it fancy. Zuruumi was just telling me reverse is used previously and that I should standardise. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 17:35, 25 July 2013 (CDT)		Proper or not, people do use it to describe the same thing. I will say reverse is less confusing than underhand but it's still points to the blade being under the hand. When I say fancy terminology, I'm referring to the one the author marks out or style with English, trying to make it fancy. Zuruumi was just telling me reverse is used previously and that I should standardise. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 17:35, 25 July 2013 (CDT)
	But really if you have to have it as reverse, go ahead and change it. That's also what I mean by the same thing. The source used the same term, just that I translated it improperly in your words. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 17:47, 25 July 2013 (CDT)		But really if you have to have it as reverse, go ahead and change it. That's also what I mean by the same thing. The source used the same term, just that I translated it improperly in your words. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 17:47, 25 July 2013 (CDT)

			Even in reverse the blade is not under the hand. to get the blade pointed down the arm the wrist is turned so no it is not the same. a sword hilt is held in the center of the palm so the blade is always to the side of the hand it is angled by the wrist to point forwards or backwards depending on if the blade is by the thumb or pinky finger. to have the hold be considered underhanded the hilt would have to between the fingers with the pommel pointed up without moving the wrist in anyway which would not work as u would stab yourself just trying to hold a dagger in this manner let alone a long sword.

KuroiHikari at 22:47, 25 July 2013

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	Proper or not, people do use it to describe the same thing. I will say reverse is less confusing than underhand but it's still points to the blade being under the hand. When I say fancy terminology, I'm referring to the one the author marks out or style with English, trying to make it fancy. Zuruumi was just telling me reverse is used previously and that I should standardise. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 17:35, 25 July 2013 (CDT)		Proper or not, people do use it to describe the same thing. I will say reverse is less confusing than underhand but it's still points to the blade being under the hand. When I say fancy terminology, I'm referring to the one the author marks out or style with English, trying to make it fancy. Zuruumi was just telling me reverse is used previously and that I should standardise. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 17:35, 25 July 2013 (CDT)
			But really if you have to have it as reverse, go ahead and change it. That's also what I mean by the same thing. The source used the same term, just that I translated it improperly in your words. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 17:47, 25 July 2013 (CDT)

KuroiHikari at 22:35, 25 July 2013

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	@KuroiHikari terminology is not always "fancy" but plz look it up before u say things like "pretty sure it is the same thing" as "underhanded grip" is not the proper term nor is it a term used at all in describing sword grips. While this page uses knifes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_fight#Knife_grips the picture shows why it would not ever be an called underhanded grip.		@KuroiHikari terminology is not always "fancy" but plz look it up before u say things like "pretty sure it is the same thing" as "underhanded grip" is not the proper term nor is it a term used at all in describing sword grips. While this page uses knifes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_fight#Knife_grips the picture shows why it would not ever be an called underhanded grip.
	Reverse grip referees to hold the blade pointed down the arm. But the form he uses is a "Reversed Grip Slash" as he held the blade with the edge pointed toward her while cutting from below upwards. If it was the "Reversed Grip Icepick" variation it would have been a stabbing attack from above.		Reverse grip referees to hold the blade pointed down the arm. But the form he uses is a "Reversed Grip Slash" as he held the blade with the edge pointed toward her while cutting from below upwards. If it was the "Reversed Grip Icepick" variation it would have been a stabbing attack from above.

			Proper or not, people do use it to describe the same thing. I will say reverse is less confusing than underhand but it's still points to the blade being under the hand. When I say fancy terminology, I'm referring to the one the author marks out or style with English, trying to make it fancy. Zuruumi was just telling me reverse is used previously and that I should standardise. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 17:35, 25 July 2013 (CDT)

75.74.97.62 at 21:47, 25 July 2013

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	Reverse grip is fine too. Pretty sure it's the same thing, it isn't some fancy term. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 05:08, 20 July 2013 (CDT)		Reverse grip is fine too. Pretty sure it's the same thing, it isn't some fancy term. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 05:08, 20 July 2013 (CDT)

			@KuroiHikari terminology is not always "fancy" but plz look it up before u say things like "pretty sure it is the same thing" as "underhanded grip" is not the proper term nor is it a term used at all in describing sword grips. While this page uses knifes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_fight#Knife_grips the picture shows why it would not ever be an called underhanded grip.
			Reverse grip referees to hold the blade pointed down the arm. But the form he uses is a "Reversed Grip Slash" as he held the blade with the edge pointed toward her while cutting from below upwards. If it was the "Reversed Grip Icepick" variation it would have been a stabbing attack from above.

KuroiHikari at 10:08, 20 July 2013

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	Geh, is it really normal to divide Prologue into parts? (this is not against you, it´s against the author).		Geh, is it really normal to divide Prologue into parts? (this is not against you, it´s against the author).
	BTW, though I haven´t read it yet, I think the "underhand grip" used to be "reverse grip" which also sounds better in the previous volume, though I might be mistaken and it being another thing as I haven´t read the original.--[[User:Zuruumi\|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi\|talk]]) 04:37, 20 July 2013 (CDT)		BTW, though I haven´t read it yet, I think the "underhand grip" used to be "reverse grip" which also sounds better in the previous volume, though I might be mistaken and it being another thing as I haven´t read the original.--[[User:Zuruumi\|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi\|talk]]) 04:37, 20 July 2013 (CDT)

			Reverse grip is fine too. Pretty sure it's the same thing, it isn't some fancy term. --[[User:KuroiHikari\|KuroiHikari]] ([[User_talk:KuroiHikari\|Talk]] \| ) 05:08, 20 July 2013 (CDT)

Zuruumi at 09:38, 20 July 2013

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	Geh, is it really normal to divide Prologue into parts? (this is not against you, it´s against the author).		Geh, is it really normal to divide Prologue into parts? (this is not against you, it´s against the author).
	BTW, though I haven´t read it yet, I think the "underhand grip" used to be "reverse grip" which also sounds better in the previous volume, though I might be mistaken and it being another thing as I ~~hasen´t~~ read the original.--[[User:Zuruumi\|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi\|talk]]) 04:37, 20 July 2013 (CDT)		BTW, though I haven´t read it yet, I think the "underhand grip" used to be "reverse grip" which also sounds better in the previous volume, though I might be mistaken and it being another thing as I haven´t read the original.--[[User:Zuruumi\|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi\|talk]]) 04:37, 20 July 2013 (CDT)

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Geh, is it really normal to divide Prologue into parts? (this is not against you, it´s against the author).
BTW, though I haven´t read it yet, I think the "underhand grip" used to be "reverse grip" which also sounds better in the previous volume, though I might be mistaken and it being another thing as I hasen´t read the original.--[[User:Zuruumi|Zuruumi]] ([[User talk:Zuruumi|talk]]) 04:37, 20 July 2013 (CDT)