Talk:Suzumiya Haruhi:Volume1 Prologue - Revision history

Lumbargo at 13:25, 23 January 2008

2008-01-23T13:25:35Z

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	:There's still some bad blood between BT and AFK/Strato so we just avoid it entirely. You should be more careful considering huge, sweeping edits anyway - they are less likely to actually be reviewed, so errors you might introduce (especially translation errors) will never be corrected. It's amazing how easily you can change the meaning of a sentence even by just reordering the words... If you have specific cases where you think an edit is ''really'' necessary then we can discuss it, otherwise stick to grammar and spelling edits only. Remember that others are using the English translation to make ''further'' translations - French, Spanish, Vietnamese. We try to aim for accuracy rather than natural flow (also contrast to what AFK/Strato does). [[User:Smidge204\|Smidge204]] 03:31, 23 January 2008 (PST)		:There's still some bad blood between BT and AFK/Strato so we just avoid it entirely. You should be more careful considering huge, sweeping edits anyway - they are less likely to actually be reviewed, so errors you might introduce (especially translation errors) will never be corrected. It's amazing how easily you can change the meaning of a sentence even by just reordering the words... If you have specific cases where you think an edit is ''really'' necessary then we can discuss it, otherwise stick to grammar and spelling edits only. Remember that others are using the English translation to make ''further'' translations - French, Spanish, Vietnamese. We try to aim for accuracy rather than natural flow (also contrast to what AFK/Strato does). [[User:Smidge204\|Smidge204]] 03:31, 23 January 2008 (PST)

			So were I to edit for flow instead of accuracy (not the best choice of words, but given I don't speak Japanese, probably... accurate enough...), I'd be better off leaving Baka-Tsuki to its normal translation and just publish on my own. Aiyah, depressing. Understood.

			-Lumbargo

Smidge204: /* Proposed Edit */ Reply...

2008-01-23T11:31:42Z

Proposed Edit: Reply...

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			:There's still some bad blood between BT and AFK/Strato so we just avoid it entirely. You should be more careful considering huge, sweeping edits anyway - they are less likely to actually be reviewed, so errors you might introduce (especially translation errors) will never be corrected. It's amazing how easily you can change the meaning of a sentence even by just reordering the words... If you have specific cases where you think an edit is ''really'' necessary then we can discuss it, otherwise stick to grammar and spelling edits only. Remember that others are using the English translation to make ''further'' translations - French, Spanish, Vietnamese. We try to aim for accuracy rather than natural flow (also contrast to what AFK/Strato does). [[User:Smidge204\|Smidge204]] 03:31, 23 January 2008 (PST)

Lumbargo at 10:03, 23 January 2008

2008-01-23T10:03:57Z

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	:We do not use AFK/Strato's translations at all here. When this project first started, two things happened: One, Strato was already working on it and apparently it bruised his ego. Two, people would often think they were helping by copy-pasting Strato's work verbatim into the wiki. The result is we've basically banned that content completely from the project. Please do not do this anymore, it only makes things worse. [[User:Smidge204\|Smidge204]] 09:40, 22 January 2008 (PST)		:We do not use AFK/Strato's translations at all here. When this project first started, two things happened: One, Strato was already working on it and apparently it bruised his ego. Two, people would often think they were helping by copy-pasting Strato's work verbatim into the wiki. The result is we've basically banned that content completely from the project. Please do not do this anymore, it only makes things worse. [[User:Smidge204\|Smidge204]] 09:40, 22 January 2008 (PST)

			You're telling me it's totally impossible to use his Translations at all? Shit. If I re-edit the whole thing using only the Baka-Tsuki translations, is that acceptable in that case? :/
			I don't want what I've done and what I plan to do to be a waste entirely, which is what it will probably end up being if I can't use Baka-Tsuki to do the editjobs.

			Grrr... this fouls a lot of stuff up...

			- Lumbargo

Smidge204: /* Proposed Edit */

2008-01-22T17:40:47Z

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	If you hate it, tell why. If you like it, tell why. If you'd like to use it over what's here, or pull a further edit job on it, feel free.		If you hate it, tell why. If you like it, tell why. If you'd like to use it over what's here, or pull a further edit job on it, feel free.

			:We do not use AFK/Strato's translations at all here. When this project first started, two things happened: One, Strato was already working on it and apparently it bruised his ego. Two, people would often think they were helping by copy-pasting Strato's work verbatim into the wiki. The result is we've basically banned that content completely from the project. Please do not do this anymore, it only makes things worse. [[User:Smidge204\|Smidge204]] 09:40, 22 January 2008 (PST)

Lumbargo: Proposed Edit

2007-12-26T13:06:10Z

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	--[[User:The naming game\|The naming game]] 22:42, 19 August 2006 (PDT)		--[[User:The naming game\|The naming game]] 22:42, 19 August 2006 (PDT)

			== Proposed Edit ==

			I've taken the Baka-suki translation, and with references to both the a.f.k fansubs and Starto's translation have attempted to do an edit job over it. The results are here.

			http://lumbargo.googlepages.com/themelancholyofsuzumiyaharuhi

			If you hate it, tell why. If you like it, tell why. If you'd like to use it over what's here, or pull a further edit job on it, feel free.

87.123.175.229: /* Suggested alteration */

2006-12-23T14:03:33Z

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	I wanted to be the one who use<del>d my</del> courage, ...<br>		I wanted to be the one who use<del>d my</del> courage, ...<br>
	I wanted to be the one who use<ins>s his</ins> courage, ...<br>		I wanted to be the one who use<ins>s his</ins> courage, ...<br>
	-- Dirk Eismann, 23-dec-~~2007~~		-- Dirk Eismann, 23-dec-2006

	=== Differences with the stratos translation ===		=== Differences with the stratos translation ===

87.123.175.229: /* Open Translation Issues */

2006-12-23T14:02:55Z

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	=== Suggested alteration ===		=== Suggested alteration ===
	I wanted to be the one who use<del>d my</del> courage, ...<br>		I wanted to be the one who use<del>d my</del> courage, ...<br>
	I wanted to be the one who use<ins>s his</ins> courage, ...		I wanted to be the one who use<ins>s his</ins> courage, ...<br>
	-- Dirk Eismann		-- Dirk Eismann, 23-dec-2007

	=== Differences with the stratos translation ===		=== Differences with the stratos translation ===

87.123.175.229: /* Open Translation Issues */

2006-12-23T13:56:16Z

Open Translation Issues

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	== Open Translation Issues ==		== Open Translation Issues ==

			=== Suggested alteration ===
			I wanted to be the one who use<del>d my</del> courage, ...<br>
			I wanted to be the one who use<ins>s his</ins> courage, ...
			-- Dirk Eismann

	=== Differences with the stratos translation ===		=== Differences with the stratos translation ===

Da~Mike: removed spam posted by this user -> 71.161.222.57

2006-09-04T16:42:14Z

removed spam posted by this user -> 71.161.222.57

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	The previous discussion regarding a disputed lack of literal translation has been moved to the forum. Please click on the following link to view it: '''[http://www.baka-tsuki.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=208 Not literal enough?]'''		The previous discussion regarding a disputed lack of literal translation has been moved to the forum. Please click on the following link to view it: '''[http://www.baka-tsuki.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=208 Not literal enough?]'''

	~~== omg ==~~
	~~kyon is god~~

	== Open Translation Issues ==		== Open Translation Issues ==


	=== Differences with the stratos translation ===		=== Differences with the stratos translation ===

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	::So I suppose my ability to hold convictions while accepting reality is a sign that I've matured.		::So I suppose my ability to hold convictions while accepting reality is a sign that I've matured.
	::(no real parallels, except nostalgia hints at maturity, e.g. time having passed)		::(no real parallels, except nostalgia hints at maturity, e.g. time having passed)

			--[[User:The naming game\|The naming game]] 22:42, 19 August 2006 (PDT)

71.161.222.57: /* Resolved Issues */

2006-08-21T02:42:29Z

Resolved Issues

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	The previous discussion regarding a disputed lack of literal translation has been moved to the forum. Please click on the following link to view it: '''[http://www.baka-tsuki.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=208 Not literal enough?]'''		The previous discussion regarding a disputed lack of literal translation has been moved to the forum. Please click on the following link to view it: '''[http://www.baka-tsuki.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=208 Not literal enough?]'''

			== omg ==
			kyon is god

	== Open Translation Issues ==		== Open Translation Issues ==