Talk:Utsuro no Hako:Volume3 Round 1 - Revision history

EusthEnoptEron: /* Prince */ new section

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	i think that those who lose every time and can't win at least once will die permanently, i think it makes sense		i think that those who lose every time and can't win at least once will die permanently, i think it makes sense

			== Prince ==

			Mikage silently added a skill to the Prince in volume 4. This new skill solves a logical error that appeared in this round.<br />
			The skill wasn't written in volume 3, but I thought I'd add it here as well. [[User:EusthEnoptEron\|EusthEnoptEron]] 18:42, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

79.42.157.130 at 23:49, 22 May 2010

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	or maybe only those who died in the last round will die permanently? or hopefully that maria is zero, so the real maria is still unharmed and is looking for a way to intercept the box from outside... yeah, i'm so naive ¬_¬		or maybe only those who died in the last round will die permanently? or hopefully that maria is zero, so the real maria is still unharmed and is looking for a way to intercept the box from outside... yeah, i'm so naive ¬_¬

			i think that those who lose every time and can't win at least once will die permanently, i think it makes sense

110.136.202.135 at 05:20, 21 May 2010

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	A largish question regarding Maria's death seems to have appeared and then disappeared; hopefully the questioner upon rereading realised that Daiya was the Assassin, not the King. (The question about the Prince being able to use Murder after the King and Double die is still reasonable.)		A largish question regarding Maria's death seems to have appeared and then disappeared; hopefully the questioner upon rereading realised that Daiya was the Assassin, not the King. (The question about the Prince being able to use Murder after the King and Double die is still reasonable.)

			or maybe only those who died in the last round will die permanently? or hopefully that maria is zero, so the real maria is still unharmed and is looking for a way to intercept the box from outside... yeah, i'm so naive ¬_¬

131.111.229.54 at 06:44, 20 May 2010

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	:--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)		:--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
	::Actually, "round" didn't even appear in the original novel. The chapters were created by me because we need chapter titles, Noitan talked originally about "game" and Daiya said "one time" if I remember right. [[User:EusthEnoptEron\|EusthEnoptEron]] 11:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)		::Actually, "round" didn't even appear in the original novel. The chapters were created by me because we need chapter titles, Noitan talked originally about "game" and Daiya said "one time" if I remember right. [[User:EusthEnoptEron\|EusthEnoptEron]] 11:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

			A largish question regarding Maria's death seems to have appeared and then disappeared; hopefully the questioner upon rereading realised that Daiya was the Assassin, not the King. (The question about the Prince being able to use Murder after the King and Double die is still reasonable.)

Polarpwnage at 04:01, 20 May 2010

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	:--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)		:--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
	::Actually, "round" didn't even appear in the original novel. The chapters were created by me because we need chapter titles, Noitan talked originally about "game" and Daiya said "one time" if I remember right. [[User:EusthEnoptEron\|EusthEnoptEron]] 11:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)		::Actually, "round" didn't even appear in the original novel. The chapters were created by me because we need chapter titles, Noitan talked originally about "game" and Daiya said "one time" if I remember right. [[User:EusthEnoptEron\|EusthEnoptEron]] 11:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

	~~== Maria's Death at end of Round 1 ==~~

	How did Maria die, actually more like why? I read the rules of each player's abilities and it states that while the king has the power to press murder, someone has to carry it out, in this case the sorcerer the only person left who is capable of carrying out the [MURDER]. Since we know the sorcerer can refuse to carry out the order, how did Maria die. If the King, Revolutionary and Prince's ability to murder can be carried out without the compliance of the knight and sorcerer, then what the heck is the point of the knight's beheading skill and sorcerer's magic? The knight is pretty much a doomed class with 0 hopes for survival given the fact it cannot kill anyone using his/her murder skill, same goes for sorcerer. And seeing how Kazuki stated near the end of round one that he was waiting for Maria's [Prince] order to kill [King] and the fact she didnt meant that she was dependent on the sorcerer to carry out the kill if she ever did agree. Therefore, how in the world did the King kill the Prince without Kazuki's compliance? She died from strangulation and not close combat murder (ex. knifing)

Polarpwnage: /* Maria's Death at end of Round 1 */ new section

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	:--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)		:--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
	::Actually, "round" didn't even appear in the original novel. The chapters were created by me because we need chapter titles, Noitan talked originally about "game" and Daiya said "one time" if I remember right. [[User:EusthEnoptEron\|EusthEnoptEron]] 11:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)		::Actually, "round" didn't even appear in the original novel. The chapters were created by me because we need chapter titles, Noitan talked originally about "game" and Daiya said "one time" if I remember right. [[User:EusthEnoptEron\|EusthEnoptEron]] 11:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

			== Maria's Death at end of Round 1 ==

			How did Maria die, actually more like why? I read the rules of each player's abilities and it states that while the king has the power to press murder, someone has to carry it out, in this case the sorcerer the only person left who is capable of carrying out the [MURDER]. Since we know the sorcerer can refuse to carry out the order, how did Maria die. If the King, Revolutionary and Prince's ability to murder can be carried out without the compliance of the knight and sorcerer, then what the heck is the point of the knight's beheading skill and sorcerer's magic? The knight is pretty much a doomed class with 0 hopes for survival given the fact it cannot kill anyone using his/her murder skill, same goes for sorcerer. And seeing how Kazuki stated near the end of round one that he was waiting for Maria's [Prince] order to kill [King] and the fact she didnt meant that she was dependent on the sorcerer to carry out the kill if she ever did agree. Therefore, how in the world did the King kill the Prince without Kazuki's compliance? She died from strangulation and not close combat murder (ex. knifing)

EusthEnoptEron at 11:43, 18 May 2010

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	:However I just noticed now, that it says "the round". Before I thought a round was one day or something like that, but I can see this is not the case. "round" is only mentioned three times. First is the chapter title ("Round 1"), then there is that sentence I just quoted above and the last one when Daiya talks about round 2. So just what would end by running into a mummie?		:However I just noticed now, that it says "the round". Before I thought a round was one day or something like that, but I can see this is not the case. "round" is only mentioned three times. First is the chapter title ("Round 1"), then there is that sentence I just quoted above and the last one when Daiya talks about round 2. So just what would end by running into a mummie?
	:--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)		:--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
			::Actually, "round" didn't even appear in the original novel. The chapters were created by me because we need chapter titles, Noitan talked originally about "game" and Daiya said "one time" if I remember right. [[User:EusthEnoptEron\|EusthEnoptEron]] 11:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Spiller at 10:45, 18 May 2010

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	(I suspect that a 'mummy' is the original sense of a shrivelled-up inanimate corpse, rather than an undead monster.) \| (Agreed regarding Umineko wonderfulness!)		(I suspect that a 'mummy' is the original sense of a shrivelled-up inanimate corpse, rather than an undead monster.) \| (Agreed regarding Umineko wonderfulness!)

	I just couldn't get this sentence out of my mind: «Okay thEn - I wiSh aLl oF you a - good fight! - Just dOn't end - the roUnd by - doing somEthing - as stUpid - as to tuRn - into muMmies everYone - okAy?».		:I just couldn't get this sentence out of my mind: «Okay thEn - I wiSh aLl oF you a - good fight! - Just dOn't end - the roUnd by - doing somEthing - as stUpid - as to tuRn - into muMmies everYone - okAy?».
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	However I just noticed now, that it says "the round". Before I thought a round was one day or something like that, but I can see this is not the case. "round" is only mentioned three times. First is the chapter title ("Round 1"), then there is that sentence I just quoted above and the last one when Daiya talks about round 2. So just what would end by running into a mummie?		:However I just noticed now, that it says "the round". Before I thought a round was one day or something like that, but I can see this is not the case. "round" is only mentioned three times. First is the chapter title ("Round 1"), then there is that sentence I just quoted above and the last one when Daiya talks about round 2. So just what would end by running into a mummie?
	--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)		:--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Spiller at 10:43, 18 May 2010

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	(I suspect that a 'mummy' is the original sense of a shrivelled-up inanimate corpse, rather than an undead monster.) \| (Agreed regarding Umineko wonderfulness!)		(I suspect that a 'mummy' is the original sense of a shrivelled-up inanimate corpse, rather than an undead monster.) \| (Agreed regarding Umineko wonderfulness!)

			I just couldn't get this sentence out of my mind: «Okay thEn - I wiSh aLl oF you a - good fight! - Just dOn't end - the roUnd by - doing somEthing - as stUpid - as to tuRn - into muMmies everYone - okAy?».

			However I just noticed now, that it says "the round". Before I thought a round was one day or something like that, but I can see this is not the case. "round" is only mentioned three times. First is the chapter title ("Round 1"), then there is that sentence I just quoted above and the last one when Daiya talks about round 2. So just what would end by running into a mummie?
			--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 10:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

131.111.229.54 at 22:57, 17 May 2010

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	Anyway, I like the concept that was touched in Umineko no naku koro ni, game pieces will not die, they are just placed back into the storage box, waiting to be placed in play again, but may not be used again and will just rot there for eternity. (Or something like that...)		Anyway, I like the concept that was touched in Umineko no naku koro ni, game pieces will not die, they are just placed back into the storage box, waiting to be placed in play again, but may not be used again and will just rot there for eternity. (Or something like that...)
	--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 21:57, 17 May 2010 (UTC)		--[[User:Spiller\|Spiller]] 21:57, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

			(I suspect that a 'mummy' is the original sense of a shrivelled-up inanimate corpse, rather than an undead monster.) \| (Agreed regarding Umineko wonderfulness!)