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		<title>EusthEnoptEron at 11:47, 6 July 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-06T11:47:59Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Significant happiness!  |  Reaction thoughts:  I had forgotten, or had not known, the part about the King needing the Knight to be dead, for instance; I wonder if I just didn&amp;#039;t notice a part of the rules that all living people&amp;#039;s victory conditions had to be met, or if it&amp;#039;s a change for convenience (or otherwise)...?  Also, it&amp;#039;s still not clear whether the King will die if the King uses Substitution and the Double is targeted.  |  It occurs to me that this might be a fairly interesting game to play as an online game or similar, though it could be hard to enforce the secret room meeting schedule.  Working to stop anyone from dying conflicts with the underlying rules, and so it can&amp;#039;t straightforwardly be enjoyed as it is, though in retrospect one could vicariously enjoy it through the non-Hoshino people perhaps...  hmm.  Quite curious about what he&amp;#039;ll be this time, but it won&amp;#039;t change his not-killing-anyone in any case...  hmmmm.  What if some die and the winners become mummies at the end instead of &amp;#039;winning&amp;#039;, though?  A way to salvage a failure...?  *in any case, GLEE!*&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Significant happiness!  |  Reaction thoughts:  I had forgotten, or had not known, the part about the King needing the Knight to be dead, for instance; I wonder if I just didn&amp;#039;t notice a part of the rules that all living people&amp;#039;s victory conditions had to be met, or if it&amp;#039;s a change for convenience (or otherwise)...?  Also, it&amp;#039;s still not clear whether the King will die if the King uses Substitution and the Double is targeted.  |  It occurs to me that this might be a fairly interesting game to play as an online game or similar, though it could be hard to enforce the secret room meeting schedule.  Working to stop anyone from dying conflicts with the underlying rules, and so it can&amp;#039;t straightforwardly be enjoyed as it is, though in retrospect one could vicariously enjoy it through the non-Hoshino people perhaps...  hmm.  Quite curious about what he&amp;#039;ll be this time, but it won&amp;#039;t change his not-killing-anyone in any case...  hmmmm.  What if some die and the winners become mummies at the end instead of &amp;#039;winning&amp;#039;, though?  A way to salvage a failure...?  *in any case, GLEE!*&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Regarding the rule: nope, it was always there. -&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&quot;* The game ends when &#039;&#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039;&#039; victory conditions for the remaining players have been met.&quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Please take a look at the result of round 2 - you will notice that it&#039;s exactly that King-Knight case there. I think Mikage made Noitan mention that rule because some reader didn&#039;t understand why Yuuri had to kill Kamiuchi. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 11:47, 6 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>83.104.133.97 at 09:37, 6 July 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-06T09:37:18Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Welcome to volume 4 of Hakomari! This was the warm welcome chapter of Noitan!&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Welcome to volume 4 of Hakomari! This was the warm welcome chapter of Noitan!&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I just wanted to tell you guys that we&amp;#039;re going to attempt doing everything in present tense this time. I have a feeling that this would work better than using a mix of past and present. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 18:44, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I just wanted to tell you guys that we&amp;#039;re going to attempt doing everything in present tense this time. I have a feeling that this would work better than using a mix of past and present. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 18:44, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Significant happiness!  |  Reaction thoughts:  I had forgotten, or had not known, the part about the King needing the Knight to be dead, for instance; I wonder if I just didn&#039;t notice a part of the rules that all living people&#039;s victory conditions had to be met, or if it&#039;s a change for convenience (or otherwise)...?  Also, it&#039;s still not clear whether the King will die if the King uses Substitution and the Double is targeted.  |  It occurs to me that this might be a fairly interesting game to play as an online game or similar, though it could be hard to enforce the secret room meeting schedule.  Working to stop anyone from dying conflicts with the underlying rules, and so it can&#039;t straightforwardly be enjoyed as it is, though in retrospect one could vicariously enjoy it through the non-Hoshino people perhaps...  hmm.  Quite curious about what he&#039;ll be this time, but it won&#039;t change his not-killing-anyone in any case...  hmmmm.  What if some die and the winners become mummies at the end instead of &#039;winning&#039;, though?  A way to salvage a failure...?  *in any case, GLEE!*&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>EusthEnoptEron: New page: Welcome to volume 4 of Hakomari! This was the warm welcome chapter of Noitan!&lt;br /&gt; I just wanted to tell you guys that we&#039;re going to attempt doing everything in present tense this time. ...</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-02T18:44:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Welcome to volume 4 of Hakomari! This was the warm welcome chapter of Noitan!&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; I just wanted to tell you guys that we&amp;#039;re going to attempt doing everything in present tense this time. ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Welcome to volume 4 of Hakomari! This was the warm welcome chapter of Noitan!&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I just wanted to tell you guys that we&amp;#039;re going to attempt doing everything in present tense this time. I have a feeling that this would work better than using a mix of past and present. [[User:EusthEnoptEron|EusthEnoptEron]] 18:44, 2 July 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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