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Dgreater1: Yo, just a question

2007-11-18T01:39:22Z

Yo, just a question

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			== CLANNAD TV ==

			Yo, Mashu, would you mind if we ask you for help with CLANNAD TV translation? Its air time in Japan is 1:30AM of Friday, so you have to be kind of free around the air time. Well, that's only if you're free at that time :3 -DGreater112

Mashu: /* About what you should do */

2007-10-27T21:37:48Z

About what you should do

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	Don't really know, you're in the Translator Team, but I think I prefer you to be in the Translation Checker Team since we don't really have anyone really fluent in Japanese to check if the translation is right or wrong, but even still, it's up to you or for the leader to decide :P -[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]]		Don't really know, you're in the Translator Team, but I think I prefer you to be in the Translation Checker Team since we don't really have anyone really fluent in Japanese to check if the translation is right or wrong, but even still, it's up to you or for the leader to decide :P -[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]]
	:All I have to say is I like your inputs very much. So I'm not against anything. If you end up or currently like/enjoy the role you're doing or told to do, then I would find that best. -[[User:Amoirsp\|Amoirsp]]		:All I have to say is I like your inputs very much. So I'm not against anything. If you end up or currently like/enjoy the role you're doing or told to do, then I would find that best. -[[User:Amoirsp\|Amoirsp]]
			Thanks, I enjoy translating and checking translations, but I also do believe checking your translations and grammar is what I would be faster and better at doing. -[[User:Mashu\|Mashu]]

	== IRC ==		== IRC ==

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Amoirsp: /* About what you should do */

2007-10-22T21:20:05Z

About what you should do

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	Don't really know, you're in the Translator Team, but I think I prefer you to be in the Translation Checker Team since we don't really have anyone really fluent in Japanese to check if the translation is right or wrong, but even still, it's up to you or for the leader to decide :P -[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]]		Don't really know, you're in the Translator Team, but I think I prefer you to be in the Translation Checker Team since we don't really have anyone really fluent in Japanese to check if the translation is right or wrong, but even still, it's up to you or for the leader to decide :P -[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]]
			:All I have to say is I like your inputs very much. So I'm not against anything. If you end up or currently like/enjoy the role you're doing or told to do, then I would find that best. -[[User:Amoirsp\|Amoirsp]]

	== IRC ==		== IRC ==

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Dgreater1: Yo, hisashiburi

2007-10-22T11:20:10Z

Yo, hisashiburi

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	::Oh about the language reversal on her route? The problem is the climax of her route. I really believe that it requires to reverse that part there because there's a purpose why that line is in English... and I don't think reversing that alone would be good with the flow of the translation. Take for example the scissor part with Kotomi in the bookshop. She said scissors in her first explanation but in the second explanation, she said, "In English it's scissor..." which is kind of redundant that's why I reversed it as "In Japanese..." that part also exist with Yukine's route where Sunohara said, "Really" in English then Tomoya commented on it with "More English words came out." It will look redundant and kind of odd when you read it because the readers are reading an English translation despite knowing that it's a Japanese game. You should also read this [http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Amoirsp#About_the_language_reversal About the Language Reversal]. Anyway, you'll see what I mean once you finish Kotomi's route... though I'm sure you'll finish reading Kotomi's route first before I finish translating her route ^_^; --[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]] 1:30PM (+8:00)		::Oh about the language reversal on her route? The problem is the climax of her route. I really believe that it requires to reverse that part there because there's a purpose why that line is in English... and I don't think reversing that alone would be good with the flow of the translation. Take for example the scissor part with Kotomi in the bookshop. She said scissors in her first explanation but in the second explanation, she said, "In English it's scissor..." which is kind of redundant that's why I reversed it as "In Japanese..." that part also exist with Yukine's route where Sunohara said, "Really" in English then Tomoya commented on it with "More English words came out." It will look redundant and kind of odd when you read it because the readers are reading an English translation despite knowing that it's a Japanese game. You should also read this [http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Amoirsp#About_the_language_reversal About the Language Reversal]. Anyway, you'll see what I mean once you finish Kotomi's route... though I'm sure you'll finish reading Kotomi's route first before I finish translating her route ^_^; --[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]] 1:30PM (+8:00)

			== About what you should do ==

			Don't really know, you're in the Translator Team, but I think I prefer you to be in the Translation Checker Team since we don't really have anyone really fluent in Japanese to check if the translation is right or wrong, but even still, it's up to you or for the leader to decide :P -[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]]

	== IRC ==		== IRC ==

	Can you come idle in IRC when you can? Thanks. --[[User:Velocity7\|velocity7]]		Can you come idle in IRC when you can? Thanks. --[[User:Velocity7\|velocity7]]

Velocity7: IRC

2007-08-03T15:28:41Z

IRC

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	::Oh about the language reversal on her route? The problem is the climax of her route. I really believe that it requires to reverse that part there because there's a purpose why that line is in English... and I don't think reversing that alone would be good with the flow of the translation. Take for example the scissor part with Kotomi in the bookshop. She said scissors in her first explanation but in the second explanation, she said, "In English it's scissor..." which is kind of redundant that's why I reversed it as "In Japanese..." that part also exist with Yukine's route where Sunohara said, "Really" in English then Tomoya commented on it with "More English words came out." It will look redundant and kind of odd when you read it because the readers are reading an English translation despite knowing that it's a Japanese game. You should also read this [http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Amoirsp#About_the_language_reversal About the Language Reversal]. Anyway, you'll see what I mean once you finish Kotomi's route... though I'm sure you'll finish reading Kotomi's route first before I finish translating her route ^_^; --[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]] 1:30PM (+8:00)		::Oh about the language reversal on her route? The problem is the climax of her route. I really believe that it requires to reverse that part there because there's a purpose why that line is in English... and I don't think reversing that alone would be good with the flow of the translation. Take for example the scissor part with Kotomi in the bookshop. She said scissors in her first explanation but in the second explanation, she said, "In English it's scissor..." which is kind of redundant that's why I reversed it as "In Japanese..." that part also exist with Yukine's route where Sunohara said, "Really" in English then Tomoya commented on it with "More English words came out." It will look redundant and kind of odd when you read it because the readers are reading an English translation despite knowing that it's a Japanese game. You should also read this [http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Amoirsp#About_the_language_reversal About the Language Reversal]. Anyway, you'll see what I mean once you finish Kotomi's route... though I'm sure you'll finish reading Kotomi's route first before I finish translating her route ^_^; --[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]] 1:30PM (+8:00)

			== IRC ==

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Amoirsp: /* Tsukkomi */

2007-05-21T23:43:35Z

Tsukkomi

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	:The next question is, are we going to replace every tsukkomi lines so it would work with the line or only those that need a clear interpretation? Like for example, Line 0307 of SEEN4418, Line 0079, 0101, 0318 of SEEN4419. We might end up completely eliminating the essence of tsukkomi in exchange for clear interpretation if we change every tsukkomi lines though. And there's discussion problem too @_@, only a few of us might discuss this problem... -DGreater1		:The next question is, are we going to replace every tsukkomi lines so it would work with the line or only those that need a clear interpretation? Like for example, Line 0307 of SEEN4418, Line 0079, 0101, 0318 of SEEN4419. We might end up completely eliminating the essence of tsukkomi in exchange for clear interpretation if we change every tsukkomi lines though. And there's discussion problem too @_@, only a few of us might discuss this problem... -DGreater1

			:: I'm fine with it given that not only is it very implicit, but there are notations that make it obvious. If we all remember, there's some line when Tomoya is talking to Kotomi and he asks himself, will I always be the tsukkomi? So even if all the lines use it without actually saying it, since you don't usually say tsukkomi within a tsukkomi, there are portions that specificially state it. There's also the effects of sudden responses, which Kyou does, or the quotations with the bolding emphasis. If anything, if the tsukkomi replacement is losing essence, then provide it on the first tsukkomi line or so. Does a problem occur, we'll just adjust accordingly. I mean, things like the urate chop won't be changed, I believe. -Amoirsp

	== Un and Uun. ==		== Un and Uun. ==

Dgreater1: /* Tsukkomi */

2007-05-21T21:12:51Z

Tsukkomi

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	Discuss!		Discuss!
	:That's fine for me. We could use some proper replacement with the tsukkomi lines to make the translation clear, like the one I did with SEEN4506 :3<br><br>		:That's fine for me. We could use some proper replacement with the tsukkomi lines to make the translation clear, like the one I did with SEEN4506 :3<br><br>
			:
	:<0187> \{Kyou} "Saying such easygoing words would someday make this place a gathering spot for some other club." *		:<0187> \{Kyou} "Saying such easygoing words would someday make this place a gathering spot for some other club." *
	:// Not sure with this line though @_@ -DGreater1		:// Not sure with this line though @_@ -DGreater1
	:// \{杏}「そんな悠長なこと言ってるから、ここはいつまで経っても変な部外者のたまり場なのよ」		:// \{杏}「そんな悠長なこと言ってるから、ここはいつまで経っても変な部外者のたまり場なのよ」
	<0188> \{\m{B}} "Can I butt in with '\bDon't say that.'?"\u		:<0188> \{\m{B}} "Can I butt in with '\bDon't say that.'?"\u
	:// \{\m{B}}「『おまえが言うな』ってツッコんでもいいか？」		:// \{\m{B}}「『おまえが言うな』ってツッコんでもいいか？」
	:<0189> \{Kyou} "I'll retaliate with '\bYou too.'"\u		:<0189> \{Kyou} "I'll retaliate with '\bYou too.'"\u
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	:<0190> \{\m{B}} "........."		:<0190> \{\m{B}} "........."
	:// \{\m{B}}「………」		:// \{\m{B}}「………」
	~~<br>~~<br>		:<br>
	:The next question is, are we going to replace every tsukkomi lines so it would work with the line or only those that need a clear interpretation? Like for example, Line 0307 of SEEN4418, Line 0079, 0101, 0318 of SEEN4419. We might end up completely eliminating the essence of tsukkomi in exchange for clear interpretation if we change every tsukkomi lines though.		:The next question is, are we going to replace every tsukkomi lines so it would work with the line or only those that need a clear interpretation? Like for example, Line 0307 of SEEN4418, Line 0079, 0101, 0318 of SEEN4419. We might end up completely eliminating the essence of tsukkomi in exchange for clear interpretation if we change every tsukkomi lines though. And there's discussion problem too @_@, only a few of us might discuss this problem... -DGreater1

	== Un and Uun. ==		== Un and Uun. ==

Dgreater1: /* Tsukkomi */

2007-05-21T21:07:44Z

Tsukkomi

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	Discuss!		Discuss!
			:That's fine for me. We could use some proper replacement with the tsukkomi lines to make the translation clear, like the one I did with SEEN4506 :3<br><br>

			:<0187> \{Kyou} "Saying such easygoing words would someday make this place a gathering spot for some other club." *
			:// Not sure with this line though @_@ -DGreater1
			:// \{杏}「そんな悠長なこと言ってるから、ここはいつまで経っても変な部外者のたまり場なのよ」
			<0188> \{\m{B}} "Can I butt in with '\bDon't say that.'?"\u
			:// \{\m{B}}「『おまえが言うな』ってツッコんでもいいか？」
			:<0189> \{Kyou} "I'll retaliate with '\bYou too.'"\u
			:// \{杏}「『あんたもね』ってツッコミかえすわよ？」
			:<0190> \{\m{B}} "........."
			:// \{\m{B}}「………」
			<br><br>
			:The next question is, are we going to replace every tsukkomi lines so it would work with the line or only those that need a clear interpretation? Like for example, Line 0307 of SEEN4418, Line 0079, 0101, 0318 of SEEN4419. We might end up completely eliminating the essence of tsukkomi in exchange for clear interpretation if we change every tsukkomi lines though.

	== Un and Uun. ==		== Un and Uun. ==

Mashu: /* Tsukkomi */ Corrections

2007-05-21T09:06:52Z

Tsukkomi: Corrections

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	== Tsukkomi ==		== Tsukkomi ==

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	Example: Kotomi tells Tomoya that it's okay for students of this school to come to the library freely. He thinks:		Example: Kotomi tells Tomoya that it's okay for students of this school to come to the library freely. He thinks:
	今は閉室時間だろとか、そもそも今日は学校休みだろとか、ツッコミたいことは山ほどあったが、問題はそこじゃない。		今は閉室時間だろとか、そもそも今日は学校休みだろとか、ツッコミたいことは山ほどあったが、問題はそこじゃない。
	Wouldn't you think that:		*Wouldn't you think that: Mountains of corrections such as 'isn't it supposed to be closed' and 'school is not even active today' came to mind, but that wasn't the problem.
	Mountains of corrections such as 'isn't it supposed to be closed' and 'school is not even active today' came to mind, but that wasn't the problem.		*Sounds a lot better than: There are mountains of tsukkomi I could do such as 'isn't it supposed to be closed' and 'school is not even active today' but that wasn't the problem.

	Sounds a lot better than:
	There are mountains of tsukkomi I could do such as 'isn't it supposed to be closed' and 'school is not even active today' but that wasn't the problem.

	Discuss!		Discuss!

Mashu at 09:04, 21 May 2007

2007-05-21T09:04:58Z

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			== Tsukkomi ==

			Tsukkomi is best interpreted as a jab at something. It's not as complicated as I've seen some comments about it. I'm sure you guys already know what it is, but I'll just explain just in case. It's basically where one butts in and makes corrections to someone's stupid mistake or statement.

			Example: Kotomi tells Tomoya that it's okay for students of this school to come to the library freely. He thinks:
			今は閉室時間だろとか、そもそも今日は学校休みだろとか、ツッコミたいことは山ほどあったが、問題はそこじゃない。
			Wouldn't you think that:
			Mountains of corrections such as 'isn't it supposed to be closed' and 'school is not even active today' came to mind, but that wasn't the problem.

			Sounds a lot better than:
			There are mountains of tsukkomi I could do such as 'isn't it supposed to be closed' and 'school is not even active today' but that wasn't the problem.

			Discuss!

	== Un and Uun. ==		== Un and Uun. ==

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	Don't really know, you're in the Translator Team, but I think I prefer you to be in the Translation Checker Team since we don't really have anyone really fluent in Japanese to check if the translation is right or wrong, but even still, it's up to you or for the leader to decide :P -[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]]		Don't really know, you're in the Translator Team, but I think I prefer you to be in the Translation Checker Team since we don't really have anyone really fluent in Japanese to check if the translation is right or wrong, but even still, it's up to you or for the leader to decide :P -[[User:Dgreater1\|DGreater1]]
	:All I have to say is I like your inputs very much. So I'm not against anything. If you end up or currently like/enjoy the role you're doing or told to do, then I would find that best. -[[User:Amoirsp\|Amoirsp]]		:All I have to say is I like your inputs very much. So I'm not against anything. If you end up or currently like/enjoy the role you're doing or told to do, then I would find that best. -[[User:Amoirsp\|Amoirsp]]
			Thanks, I enjoy translating and checking translations, but I also do believe checking your translations and grammar is what I would be faster and better at doing. -[[User:Mashu\|Mashu]]

	== IRC ==		== IRC ==

	Can you come idle in IRC when you can? Thanks. --[[User:Velocity7\|velocity7]]		Can you come idle in IRC when you can? Thanks. --[[User:Velocity7\|velocity7]]