User talk:Multipartite - Revision history

Multipartite: /* Request */ Conviction!

2013-08-22T20:04:19Z

Request: Conviction!

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:04, 22 August 2013
Line 58:		Line 58:

	::The first occurrence is: "Hanatteoitara aitsu wa dondon atomodori dekinakunatteshimau ki ga suru." (with hana=放); the second: "Kono mama de wa, ore mo atomodori dekinai tokoro ni icchimau." Since another dictionary I tried suggests ''後戻り【あともどり】 (n,vs) retrogression; going backward; backtracking; doubling back; (P); ED'', then maybe "there won't be coming back"?--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 18:27, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		::The first occurrence is: "Hanatteoitara aitsu wa dondon atomodori dekinakunatteshimau ki ga suru." (with hana=放); the second: "Kono mama de wa, ore mo atomodori dekinai tokoro ni icchimau." Since another dictionary I tried suggests ''後戻り【あともどり】 (n,vs) retrogression; going backward; backtracking; doubling back; (P); ED'', then maybe "there won't be coming back"?--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 18:27, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

			:::Ahh! For the first one, the protagonist is not the subject, so the (simplified) sentence 'I would not be able to backtrack her' is inaccurate and should be 'She would not be able to backtrack'. "I felt that if she went, she would rapidly become unable to backtrack." Ah, but in this situation, "[...]unable to return" would make an even clearer parallel with the 'point of no return' suggestion above. Changing/Discussion is still possible, but just to make sure it's not forgotten I'll change them to that for the moment. happiness<br>
			:::\|<br>
			:::Incidentally, 'there won't be coming back' sounds slightly wrong as a phrase. 'she won't be coming back' or 'there won't be a happy return' perhaps... somehow 'there won't be a return' alone sounds wrong, though. In any case, it feels as though 'come back' or 'coming back' can only be used as a verb phrase, rather than a noun phrase; 'there won't be' by contrast requires a noun phrase. -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 15:04, 22 August 2013 (CDT)

Kemm: /* Request */

2013-08-21T23:27:16Z

Request

← Older revision		Revision as of 23:27, 21 August 2013
Line 56:		Line 56:
	後戻り (atomodori). It didn't sound all too well to me, but I didn't find any other translation in any of the dictionaries I consulted.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 16:15, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		後戻り (atomodori). It didn't sound all too well to me, but I didn't find any other translation in any of the dictionaries I consulted.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 16:15, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
	:Hmm. In the line 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to backtrack her', is it 'atomodori saseru', or something different? (Thank you for the information!) Perhaps 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to bring her back', and for 'I won't even be able to backtrack myself' -> 'I'll also pass a point of no return' (which is presumably referring to the impending incontinence)... -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 16:59, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		:Hmm. In the line 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to backtrack her', is it 'atomodori saseru', or something different? (Thank you for the information!) Perhaps 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to bring her back', and for 'I won't even be able to backtrack myself' -> 'I'll also pass a point of no return' (which is presumably referring to the impending incontinence)... -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 16:59, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

			::The first occurrence is: "Hanatteoitara aitsu wa dondon atomodori dekinakunatteshimau ki ga suru." (with hana=放); the second: "Kono mama de wa, ore mo atomodori dekinai tokoro ni icchimau." Since another dictionary I tried suggests ''後戻り【あともどり】 (n,vs) retrogression; going backward; backtracking; doubling back; (P); ED'', then maybe "there won't be coming back"?--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 18:27, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

Multipartite: /* Request */ 'atomodori' thoughts.

2013-08-21T21:59:27Z

Request: 'atomodori' thoughts.

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:59, 21 August 2013
Line 55:		Line 55:
	:Ahh. (By the way, in Volume 1 Chapter 4, what is the Japanese translated as 'backtrack'? I can't currently guess what the correct English would be, but I'm fairly certain 'backtrack' can't be used as a transitive verb.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		:Ahh. (By the way, in Volume 1 Chapter 4, what is the Japanese translated as 'backtrack'? I can't currently guess what the correct English would be, but I'm fairly certain 'backtrack' can't be used as a transitive verb.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
	後戻り (atomodori). It didn't sound all too well to me, but I didn't find any other translation in any of the dictionaries I consulted.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 16:15, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		後戻り (atomodori). It didn't sound all too well to me, but I didn't find any other translation in any of the dictionaries I consulted.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 16:15, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
			:Hmm. In the line 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to backtrack her', is it 'atomodori saseru', or something different? (Thank you for the information!) Perhaps 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to bring her back', and for 'I won't even be able to backtrack myself' -> 'I'll also pass a point of no return' (which is presumably referring to the impending incontinence)... -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 16:59, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

Kemm: /* Request */

2013-08-21T21:15:41Z

Request

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:15, 21 August 2013
Line 54:		Line 54:
	The fact that "Manneken Pis" was spelled at that dictionery as "Mannekin Pis" suggest it was a mistake of the person who added the translation. BTW the "I can look the 1,000 yen note's Noguchi Hideyo in the eyes" is intended. I don't know if the sentence is different in english, but he's deluding himself by saying that now that he's a famous work of art (the Manneken Pis) he's on the level of historical figures like Mr. Noguchi.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:55, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		The fact that "Manneken Pis" was spelled at that dictionery as "Mannekin Pis" suggest it was a mistake of the person who added the translation. BTW the "I can look the 1,000 yen note's Noguchi Hideyo in the eyes" is intended. I don't know if the sentence is different in english, but he's deluding himself by saying that now that he's a famous work of art (the Manneken Pis) he's on the level of historical figures like Mr. Noguchi.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:55, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
	:Ahh. (By the way, in Volume 1 Chapter 4, what is the Japanese translated as 'backtrack'? I can't currently guess what the correct English would be, but I'm fairly certain 'backtrack' can't be used as a transitive verb.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		:Ahh. (By the way, in Volume 1 Chapter 4, what is the Japanese translated as 'backtrack'? I can't currently guess what the correct English would be, but I'm fairly certain 'backtrack' can't be used as a transitive verb.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
			後戻り (atomodori). It didn't sound all too well to me, but I didn't find any other translation in any of the dictionaries I consulted.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 16:15, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

Multipartite: /* Request */ (Acknowledgement; 'backtrack' question.)

2013-08-21T19:53:54Z

Request: (Acknowledgement; 'backtrack' question.)

← Older revision		Revision as of 19:53, 21 August 2013
Line 53:		Line 53:
	:Ahh. Curious. I wonder why... My current knowledge suggests that it should either be 'Know thine enemy' and 'Know thyself' or 'Know your enemy' and 'Know yourself', but it's not inconceivable that there are other rules of which I as yet know not. Alternatively the person who supply the quote for that dictionary may have made a mistake; happily, there are many versions of the same quote to choose from. Another approach might be to do a direct translation of whatever it is the protagonist says--but, as with katakana, it's usually best to reverse such a translation cleanly rather than introduce noise in the form of a double translation. --If you still want to use 'thou', I would perhaps suggest 'Know thine enemy, know thyself, and thou shalt not fear a hundred battles'. (If I understand correctly, you->thou changes shall->shalt.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 11:03, 18 August 2013 (CDT)		:Ahh. Curious. I wonder why... My current knowledge suggests that it should either be 'Know thine enemy' and 'Know thyself' or 'Know your enemy' and 'Know yourself', but it's not inconceivable that there are other rules of which I as yet know not. Alternatively the person who supply the quote for that dictionary may have made a mistake; happily, there are many versions of the same quote to choose from. Another approach might be to do a direct translation of whatever it is the protagonist says--but, as with katakana, it's usually best to reverse such a translation cleanly rather than introduce noise in the form of a double translation. --If you still want to use 'thou', I would perhaps suggest 'Know thine enemy, know thyself, and thou shalt not fear a hundred battles'. (If I understand correctly, you->thou changes shall->shalt.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 11:03, 18 August 2013 (CDT)
	The fact that "Manneken Pis" was spelled at that dictionery as "Mannekin Pis" suggest it was a mistake of the person who added the translation. BTW the "I can look the 1,000 yen note's Noguchi Hideyo in the eyes" is intended. I don't know if the sentence is different in english, but he's deluding himself by saying that now that he's a famous work of art (the Manneken Pis) he's on the level of historical figures like Mr. Noguchi.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:55, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		The fact that "Manneken Pis" was spelled at that dictionery as "Mannekin Pis" suggest it was a mistake of the person who added the translation. BTW the "I can look the 1,000 yen note's Noguchi Hideyo in the eyes" is intended. I don't know if the sentence is different in english, but he's deluding himself by saying that now that he's a famous work of art (the Manneken Pis) he's on the level of historical figures like Mr. Noguchi.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:55, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
			:Ahh. (By the way, in Volume 1 Chapter 4, what is the Japanese translated as 'backtrack'? I can't currently guess what the correct English would be, but I'm fairly certain 'backtrack' can't be used as a transitive verb.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

Kemm: /* Request */

2013-08-21T18:55:15Z

Request

← Older revision		Revision as of 18:55, 21 August 2013
Line 52:		Line 52:
	How weird. I totally didn't see the "your". The quote, as it was given in the dictionary (yes, it was in the dictionary) was "Know your enemy, know thyself, and you shall not fear a hundred battles". I changed the "you" by a "thou" because japanese always quote this like they were in the Middle Ages (they use, among others, a very obsolete form of "you").--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 19:44, 17 August 2013 (CDT)		How weird. I totally didn't see the "your". The quote, as it was given in the dictionary (yes, it was in the dictionary) was "Know your enemy, know thyself, and you shall not fear a hundred battles". I changed the "you" by a "thou" because japanese always quote this like they were in the Middle Ages (they use, among others, a very obsolete form of "you").--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 19:44, 17 August 2013 (CDT)
	:Ahh. Curious. I wonder why... My current knowledge suggests that it should either be 'Know thine enemy' and 'Know thyself' or 'Know your enemy' and 'Know yourself', but it's not inconceivable that there are other rules of which I as yet know not. Alternatively the person who supply the quote for that dictionary may have made a mistake; happily, there are many versions of the same quote to choose from. Another approach might be to do a direct translation of whatever it is the protagonist says--but, as with katakana, it's usually best to reverse such a translation cleanly rather than introduce noise in the form of a double translation. --If you still want to use 'thou', I would perhaps suggest 'Know thine enemy, know thyself, and thou shalt not fear a hundred battles'. (If I understand correctly, you->thou changes shall->shalt.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 11:03, 18 August 2013 (CDT)		:Ahh. Curious. I wonder why... My current knowledge suggests that it should either be 'Know thine enemy' and 'Know thyself' or 'Know your enemy' and 'Know yourself', but it's not inconceivable that there are other rules of which I as yet know not. Alternatively the person who supply the quote for that dictionary may have made a mistake; happily, there are many versions of the same quote to choose from. Another approach might be to do a direct translation of whatever it is the protagonist says--but, as with katakana, it's usually best to reverse such a translation cleanly rather than introduce noise in the form of a double translation. --If you still want to use 'thou', I would perhaps suggest 'Know thine enemy, know thyself, and thou shalt not fear a hundred battles'. (If I understand correctly, you->thou changes shall->shalt.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 11:03, 18 August 2013 (CDT)
			The fact that "Manneken Pis" was spelled at that dictionery as "Mannekin Pis" suggest it was a mistake of the person who added the translation. BTW the "I can look the 1,000 yen note's Noguchi Hideyo in the eyes" is intended. I don't know if the sentence is different in english, but he's deluding himself by saying that now that he's a famous work of art (the Manneken Pis) he's on the level of historical figures like Mr. Noguchi.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:55, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

Multipartite: /* Request */ Thoughts.

2013-08-18T16:03:29Z

Request: Thoughts.

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:03, 18 August 2013
Line 51:		Line 51:
	:Ahh. Thank you for explaining. -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 17:22, 14 August 2013 (CDT)		:Ahh. Thank you for explaining. -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 17:22, 14 August 2013 (CDT)
	How weird. I totally didn't see the "your". The quote, as it was given in the dictionary (yes, it was in the dictionary) was "Know your enemy, know thyself, and you shall not fear a hundred battles". I changed the "you" by a "thou" because japanese always quote this like they were in the Middle Ages (they use, among others, a very obsolete form of "you").--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 19:44, 17 August 2013 (CDT)		How weird. I totally didn't see the "your". The quote, as it was given in the dictionary (yes, it was in the dictionary) was "Know your enemy, know thyself, and you shall not fear a hundred battles". I changed the "you" by a "thou" because japanese always quote this like they were in the Middle Ages (they use, among others, a very obsolete form of "you").--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 19:44, 17 August 2013 (CDT)
			:Ahh. Curious. I wonder why... My current knowledge suggests that it should either be 'Know thine enemy' and 'Know thyself' or 'Know your enemy' and 'Know yourself', but it's not inconceivable that there are other rules of which I as yet know not. Alternatively the person who supply the quote for that dictionary may have made a mistake; happily, there are many versions of the same quote to choose from. Another approach might be to do a direct translation of whatever it is the protagonist says--but, as with katakana, it's usually best to reverse such a translation cleanly rather than introduce noise in the form of a double translation. --If you still want to use 'thou', I would perhaps suggest 'Know thine enemy, know thyself, and thou shalt not fear a hundred battles'. (If I understand correctly, you->thou changes shall->shalt.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 11:03, 18 August 2013 (CDT)

Kemm: /* Request */

2013-08-18T00:44:58Z

Request

← Older revision		Revision as of 00:44, 18 August 2013
Line 50:		Line 50:
	This means I will continue to have many errors, even though I try to correct them as much as possible.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 14:42, 14 August 2013 (CDT)		This means I will continue to have many errors, even though I try to correct them as much as possible.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 14:42, 14 August 2013 (CDT)
	:Ahh. Thank you for explaining. -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 17:22, 14 August 2013 (CDT)		:Ahh. Thank you for explaining. -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 17:22, 14 August 2013 (CDT)
			How weird. I totally didn't see the "your". The quote, as it was given in the dictionary (yes, it was in the dictionary) was "Know your enemy, know thyself, and you shall not fear a hundred battles". I changed the "you" by a "thou" because japanese always quote this like they were in the Middle Ages (they use, among others, a very obsolete form of "you").--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 19:44, 17 August 2013 (CDT)

Multipartite: /* Request */ Ahh. Thank you for explaining.

2013-08-14T22:22:40Z

Request: Ahh. Thank you for explaining.

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:22, 14 August 2013
Line 49:		Line 49:
	*I'm using the notepad to write the translation before posting it, since I find it more convenient to the task... Except for the fact it doesn't have an in-built dictionary to check my mistakes.		*I'm using the notepad to write the translation before posting it, since I find it more convenient to the task... Except for the fact it doesn't have an in-built dictionary to check my mistakes.
	This means I will continue to have many errors, even though I try to correct them as much as possible.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 14:42, 14 August 2013 (CDT)		This means I will continue to have many errors, even though I try to correct them as much as possible.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 14:42, 14 August 2013 (CDT)
			:Ahh. Thank you for explaining. -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 17:22, 14 August 2013 (CDT)

Kemm: /* Request */

2013-08-14T19:42:35Z

Request

← Older revision		Revision as of 19:42, 14 August 2013
Line 43:		Line 43:

	By the way, I just saw the note about the four ~s. I indeed misunderstood the cause, and am also grateful to learn about the nowiki tag. Thank you! -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 16:10, 13 August 2013 (CDT)		By the way, I just saw the note about the four ~s. I indeed misunderstood the cause, and am also grateful to learn about the nowiki tag. Thank you! -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 16:10, 13 August 2013 (CDT)

			The underlying cause for "when 'desperately' is seen spelled as 'desesperatedly'" is, in fact, three:
			*I'm not a native speaker, so I sometimes make mistakes by likening words with the same meaning and origin to those of my mother language.
			*I'm not very typographically-efficient, so I'm prone to errors like omitting letters, adding extra letters, mistaking letters and duplicating parts of a word.
			*I'm using the notepad to write the translation before posting it, since I find it more convenient to the task... Except for the fact it doesn't have an in-built dictionary to check my mistakes.
			This means I will continue to have many errors, even though I try to correct them as much as possible.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 14:42, 14 August 2013 (CDT)

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:04, 22 August 2013
Line 58:		Line 58:

	::The first occurrence is: "Hanatteoitara aitsu wa dondon atomodori dekinakunatteshimau ki ga suru." (with hana=放); the second: "Kono mama de wa, ore mo atomodori dekinai tokoro ni icchimau." Since another dictionary I tried suggests ''後戻り【あともどり】 (n,vs) retrogression; going backward; backtracking; doubling back; (P); ED'', then maybe "there won't be coming back"?--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 18:27, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		::The first occurrence is: "Hanatteoitara aitsu wa dondon atomodori dekinakunatteshimau ki ga suru." (with hana=放); the second: "Kono mama de wa, ore mo atomodori dekinai tokoro ni icchimau." Since another dictionary I tried suggests ''後戻り【あともどり】 (n,vs) retrogression; going backward; backtracking; doubling back; (P); ED'', then maybe "there won't be coming back"?--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 18:27, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

			:::Ahh! For the first one, the protagonist is not the subject, so the (simplified) sentence 'I would not be able to backtrack her' is inaccurate and should be 'She would not be able to backtrack'. "I felt that if she went, she would rapidly become unable to backtrack." Ah, but in this situation, "[...]unable to return" would make an even clearer parallel with the 'point of no return' suggestion above. Changing/Discussion is still possible, but just to make sure it's not forgotten I'll change them to that for the moment. happiness<br>
			:::\|<br>
			:::Incidentally, 'there won't be coming back' sounds slightly wrong as a phrase. 'she won't be coming back' or 'there won't be a happy return' perhaps... somehow 'there won't be a return' alone sounds wrong, though. In any case, it feels as though 'come back' or 'coming back' can only be used as a verb phrase, rather than a noun phrase; 'there won't be' by contrast requires a noun phrase. -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 15:04, 22 August 2013 (CDT)

← Older revision		Revision as of 23:27, 21 August 2013
Line 56:		Line 56:
	後戻り (atomodori). It didn't sound all too well to me, but I didn't find any other translation in any of the dictionaries I consulted.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 16:15, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		後戻り (atomodori). It didn't sound all too well to me, but I didn't find any other translation in any of the dictionaries I consulted.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 16:15, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
	:Hmm. In the line 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to backtrack her', is it 'atomodori saseru', or something different? (Thank you for the information!) Perhaps 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to bring her back', and for 'I won't even be able to backtrack myself' -> 'I'll also pass a point of no return' (which is presumably referring to the impending incontinence)... -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 16:59, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		:Hmm. In the line 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to backtrack her', is it 'atomodori saseru', or something different? (Thank you for the information!) Perhaps 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to bring her back', and for 'I won't even be able to backtrack myself' -> 'I'll also pass a point of no return' (which is presumably referring to the impending incontinence)... -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 16:59, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

			::The first occurrence is: "Hanatteoitara aitsu wa dondon atomodori dekinakunatteshimau ki ga suru." (with hana=放); the second: "Kono mama de wa, ore mo atomodori dekinai tokoro ni icchimau." Since another dictionary I tried suggests ''後戻り【あともどり】 (n,vs) retrogression; going backward; backtracking; doubling back; (P); ED'', then maybe "there won't be coming back"?--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 18:27, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:59, 21 August 2013
Line 55:		Line 55:
	:Ahh. (By the way, in Volume 1 Chapter 4, what is the Japanese translated as 'backtrack'? I can't currently guess what the correct English would be, but I'm fairly certain 'backtrack' can't be used as a transitive verb.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		:Ahh. (By the way, in Volume 1 Chapter 4, what is the Japanese translated as 'backtrack'? I can't currently guess what the correct English would be, but I'm fairly certain 'backtrack' can't be used as a transitive verb.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
	後戻り (atomodori). It didn't sound all too well to me, but I didn't find any other translation in any of the dictionaries I consulted.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 16:15, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		後戻り (atomodori). It didn't sound all too well to me, but I didn't find any other translation in any of the dictionaries I consulted.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 16:15, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
			:Hmm. In the line 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to backtrack her', is it 'atomodori saseru', or something different? (Thank you for the information!) Perhaps 'if I let her go, I quickly would end up not being able to bring her back', and for 'I won't even be able to backtrack myself' -> 'I'll also pass a point of no return' (which is presumably referring to the impending incontinence)... -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 16:59, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:15, 21 August 2013
Line 54:		Line 54:
	The fact that "Manneken Pis" was spelled at that dictionery as "Mannekin Pis" suggest it was a mistake of the person who added the translation. BTW the "I can look the 1,000 yen note's Noguchi Hideyo in the eyes" is intended. I don't know if the sentence is different in english, but he's deluding himself by saying that now that he's a famous work of art (the Manneken Pis) he's on the level of historical figures like Mr. Noguchi.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:55, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		The fact that "Manneken Pis" was spelled at that dictionery as "Mannekin Pis" suggest it was a mistake of the person who added the translation. BTW the "I can look the 1,000 yen note's Noguchi Hideyo in the eyes" is intended. I don't know if the sentence is different in english, but he's deluding himself by saying that now that he's a famous work of art (the Manneken Pis) he's on the level of historical figures like Mr. Noguchi.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:55, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
	:Ahh. (By the way, in Volume 1 Chapter 4, what is the Japanese translated as 'backtrack'? I can't currently guess what the correct English would be, but I'm fairly certain 'backtrack' can't be used as a transitive verb.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		:Ahh. (By the way, in Volume 1 Chapter 4, what is the Japanese translated as 'backtrack'? I can't currently guess what the correct English would be, but I'm fairly certain 'backtrack' can't be used as a transitive verb.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
			後戻り (atomodori). It didn't sound all too well to me, but I didn't find any other translation in any of the dictionaries I consulted.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 16:15, 21 August 2013 (CDT)

← Older revision		Revision as of 19:53, 21 August 2013
Line 53:		Line 53:
	:Ahh. Curious. I wonder why... My current knowledge suggests that it should either be 'Know thine enemy' and 'Know thyself' or 'Know your enemy' and 'Know yourself', but it's not inconceivable that there are other rules of which I as yet know not. Alternatively the person who supply the quote for that dictionary may have made a mistake; happily, there are many versions of the same quote to choose from. Another approach might be to do a direct translation of whatever it is the protagonist says--but, as with katakana, it's usually best to reverse such a translation cleanly rather than introduce noise in the form of a double translation. --If you still want to use 'thou', I would perhaps suggest 'Know thine enemy, know thyself, and thou shalt not fear a hundred battles'. (If I understand correctly, you->thou changes shall->shalt.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 11:03, 18 August 2013 (CDT)		:Ahh. Curious. I wonder why... My current knowledge suggests that it should either be 'Know thine enemy' and 'Know thyself' or 'Know your enemy' and 'Know yourself', but it's not inconceivable that there are other rules of which I as yet know not. Alternatively the person who supply the quote for that dictionary may have made a mistake; happily, there are many versions of the same quote to choose from. Another approach might be to do a direct translation of whatever it is the protagonist says--but, as with katakana, it's usually best to reverse such a translation cleanly rather than introduce noise in the form of a double translation. --If you still want to use 'thou', I would perhaps suggest 'Know thine enemy, know thyself, and thou shalt not fear a hundred battles'. (If I understand correctly, you->thou changes shall->shalt.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 11:03, 18 August 2013 (CDT)
	The fact that "Manneken Pis" was spelled at that dictionery as "Mannekin Pis" suggest it was a mistake of the person who added the translation. BTW the "I can look the 1,000 yen note's Noguchi Hideyo in the eyes" is intended. I don't know if the sentence is different in english, but he's deluding himself by saying that now that he's a famous work of art (the Manneken Pis) he's on the level of historical figures like Mr. Noguchi.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:55, 21 August 2013 (CDT)		The fact that "Manneken Pis" was spelled at that dictionery as "Mannekin Pis" suggest it was a mistake of the person who added the translation. BTW the "I can look the 1,000 yen note's Noguchi Hideyo in the eyes" is intended. I don't know if the sentence is different in english, but he's deluding himself by saying that now that he's a famous work of art (the Manneken Pis) he's on the level of historical figures like Mr. Noguchi.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:55, 21 August 2013 (CDT)
			:Ahh. (By the way, in Volume 1 Chapter 4, what is the Japanese translated as 'backtrack'? I can't currently guess what the correct English would be, but I'm fairly certain 'backtrack' can't be used as a transitive verb.) -[[User:Multipartite\|Multipartite]] ([[User talk:Multipartite#top\|talk]]) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (CDT)