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Shift: /* Re: Punctuation and Such */

2013-07-27T20:51:33Z

Re: Punctuation and Such

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	Yes, I am aware of that but the thing is that I don't really fill the summary box for every edit that I make, I just quickly pick one from the drop-down list of previously used summaries, and also I didn't really think that the summary being listed as "grammatical" would bother people, but seeing that you are indeed bothered by it, I will summarize such edits appropriately in the future. Thanks for pointing that out to me and sorry for any inconvenience my laziness might have caused you. --[[User:Rohan123\|Rohan123]] ([[User talk:Rohan123\|talk]]) 12:42, 27 July 2013 (CDT)		Yes, I am aware of that but the thing is that I don't really fill the summary box for every edit that I make, I just quickly pick one from the drop-down list of previously used summaries, and also I didn't really think that the summary being listed as "grammatical" would bother people, but seeing that you are indeed bothered by it, I will summarize such edits appropriately in the future. Thanks for pointing that out to me and sorry for any inconvenience my laziness might have caused you. --[[User:Rohan123\|Rohan123]] ([[User talk:Rohan123\|talk]]) 12:42, 27 July 2013 (CDT)

			(reply on [[User talk:Rohan123\|Rohan123's talk]] page) -[[User:Shift\|shift]] ([[User talk:Shift\|talk]]) 15:51, 27 July 2013 (CDT)

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Rohan123: /* Re: Punctuation and Such */

2013-07-27T17:42:43Z

Re: Punctuation and Such

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	P.S. Sorry for my lack of editing recently. I've recently started learning Japanese and find it quite enjoyable so I find myself spending less time editing and more time studying.		P.S. Sorry for my lack of editing recently. I've recently started learning Japanese and find it quite enjoyable so I find myself spending less time editing and more time studying.


			Yes, I am aware of that but the thing is that I don't really fill the summary box for every edit that I make, I just quickly pick one from the drop-down list of previously used summaries, and also I didn't really think that the summary being listed as "grammatical" would bother people, but seeing that you are indeed bothered by it, I will summarize such edits appropriately in the future. Thanks for pointing that out to me and sorry for any inconvenience my laziness might have caused you. --[[User:Rohan123\|Rohan123]] ([[User talk:Rohan123\|talk]]) 12:42, 27 July 2013 (CDT)

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Braiam: /* OreImo Editing */

2013-07-01T20:26:50Z

OreImo Editing

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	::Regards, [[User:Kory\|<span style="color:Green;font:normal 10pt Papyrus, fantasy">Kory</span>]] 17:19, 6 June 2013 (CDT)		::Regards, [[User:Kory\|<span style="color:Green;font:normal 10pt Papyrus, fantasy">Kory</span>]] 17:19, 6 June 2013 (CDT)

			Doubt you are Watching my talk page, but I still left a response there. --[[User:Braiam\|Braiam]] ([[User talk:Braiam\|talk]]) 15:26, 1 July 2013 (CDT)

	== Re: TL ==		== Re: TL ==

Kory: Forgot the tildes.

2013-06-27T12:28:52Z

Forgot the tildes.

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	Yeah, Japanese can be a handful. It was especially at the beginning. Now that I have hiragana memorized and katakana on the way to being memorized its a bit easier to grasp. I can't say I find the sentence ordering to be much of an issue though. Currently, as I know almost no kanji, almost everything I read is purely hiragana and it can be difficult to differentiate words.		Yeah, Japanese can be a handful. It was especially at the beginning. Now that I have hiragana memorized and katakana on the way to being memorized its a bit easier to grasp. I can't say I find the sentence ordering to be much of an issue though. Currently, as I know almost no kanji, almost everything I read is purely hiragana and it can be difficult to differentiate words.

	It's quite alright. I don't mind doing V12C1. I'm about halfway through it now. I'll probably get the the other half tonight, hopefully. If not it'll have to wait until next week as I'm going out of town for the long weekend.		It's quite alright. I don't mind doing V12C1. I'm about halfway through it now. I'll probably get the the other half tonight, hopefully. If not it'll have to wait until next week as I'm going out of town for the long weekend. [[User:Kory\|<span style="color:Green;font:normal 10pt Papyrus, fantasy">Kory</span>]] 07:28, 27 June 2013 (CDT)

Kory: /* Re: Punctuation and Such */

2013-06-27T11:02:56Z

Re: Punctuation and Such

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	P.S. Sorry for my lack of editing recently. I've recently started learning Japanese and find it quite enjoyable so I find myself spending less time editing and more time studying.		P.S. Sorry for my lack of editing recently. I've recently started learning Japanese and find it quite enjoyable so I find myself spending less time editing and more time studying.

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			Yeah, Japanese can be a handful. It was especially at the beginning. Now that I have hiragana memorized and katakana on the way to being memorized its a bit easier to grasp. I can't say I find the sentence ordering to be much of an issue though. Currently, as I know almost no kanji, almost everything I read is purely hiragana and it can be difficult to differentiate words.

			It's quite alright. I don't mind doing V12C1. I'm about halfway through it now. I'll probably get the the other half tonight, hopefully. If not it'll have to wait until next week as I'm going out of town for the long weekend.

Kory: Re: Punctuation.

2013-06-26T19:00:59Z

Re: Punctuation.

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	So I'm not exactly the best person to ask for level of ability needed and such. Frankly, if you really take 30-40 minutes per page I'd say you're better at it than I am. (Never really timed myself, but my pass at the intro pages of SAO went into the course of hours. Rather embarrassing, really, especially since some of them did turn out to be off the mark.) -[[User:AKAAkira\|Akira]] ([[User talk:AKAAkira\|talk]]) 04:28, 13 June 2013 (CDT)		So I'm not exactly the best person to ask for level of ability needed and such. Frankly, if you really take 30-40 minutes per page I'd say you're better at it than I am. (Never really timed myself, but my pass at the intro pages of SAO went into the course of hours. Rather embarrassing, really, especially since some of them did turn out to be off the mark.) -[[User:AKAAkira\|Akira]] ([[User talk:AKAAkira\|talk]]) 04:28, 13 June 2013 (CDT)


			== Re: Punctuation and Such ==

			Hyphens to em dashes: To me, 3 hyphens looks the same size as a single em dash. (--- —) So I change them in groups of 3. If there are any leftover I will just remove them. In some cases there are only 2 hyphens to begin with so I just change it into an em dash. I'll also change it where a single hyphen is used but an em dash would serve better. I keep a space before and after, unless it starts a sentence.

			Ellipses: Pretty much the same thing as with the hyphens, as 3 periods make up an ellipsis. Except that I don't put a space prior to one. Only after, with the exception of if it's used to start a sentence.

			Tildes: I've never really altered the tildes. I don't know of any conventions for using them. I can't ever really recall seeing them in English novels either, so I just let them be.

			Hope all that helps. [[User:Kory\|<span style="color:Green;font:normal 10pt Papyrus, fantasy">Kory</span>]] 14:00, 26 June 2013 (CDT)

			P.S. Sorry for my lack of editing recently. I've recently started learning Japanese and find it quite enjoyable so I find myself spending less time editing and more time studying.

AKAAkira: /* Re: TL */ new section

2013-06-13T09:28:31Z

Re: TL: new section

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	::Regards, [[User:Kory\|<span style="color:Green;font:normal 10pt Papyrus, fantasy">Kory</span>]] 17:19, 6 June 2013 (CDT)		::Regards, [[User:Kory\|<span style="color:Green;font:normal 10pt Papyrus, fantasy">Kory</span>]] 17:19, 6 June 2013 (CDT)

			== Re: TL ==

			It's more like I just want to practice TL-ing, and only wanted to try that one because it was relatively short.

			So I'm not exactly the best person to ask for level of ability needed and such. Frankly, if you really take 30-40 minutes per page I'd say you're better at it than I am. (Never really timed myself, but my pass at the intro pages of SAO went into the course of hours. Rather embarrassing, really, especially since some of them did turn out to be off the mark.) -[[User:AKAAkira\|Akira]] ([[User talk:AKAAkira\|talk]]) 04:28, 13 June 2013 (CDT)

Kory at 22:19, 6 June 2013

2013-06-06T22:19:05Z

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	:-[[User:Shift\|shift]] ([[User talk:Shift\|talk]]) 16:58, 6 June 2013 (CDT)		:-[[User:Shift\|shift]] ([[User talk:Shift\|talk]]) 16:58, 6 June 2013 (CDT)

			::If you would prefer to start with V12 then by all means, go ahead. I'll probably correct the punctuation later tonight. After that I plan on starting with V11C4, there are a few things I noticed just while fixing the punctuation that were a little off.

			::It's fine that you may be a little slow to start, I know I was/still am. As you said, it's best to get comfortable and work at your own pace. It's better that way than rushing everything.

			::Regards, [[User:Kory\|<span style="color:Green;font:normal 10pt Papyrus, fantasy">Kory</span>]] 17:19, 6 June 2013 (CDT)

Shift at 21:58, 6 June 2013

2013-06-06T21:58:31Z

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			== OreImo Editing ==

	Hi shift, I saw your questions on Chaos' talk page. As for editing, you can just go ahead and post the changes you deem necessary. If there are incomplete/mistaken translations that you aren't sure of, use the talk page and I'm sure Chaos can clear up any issues. Editing in batches is perfectly fine. I usually go through quickly first to make changes to punctuation i.e. multiple hyphens into an em dash, curly quotes into straight ones, ellipses consitency, et cetera. After then I usually will go back and make changes to the text. Unfortunately I can't assist with the questions you posted on the Oreimo V11C4 discussion page; I don't have the originals nor could I read them if I did.		Hi shift, I saw your questions on Chaos' talk page. As for editing, you can just go ahead and post the changes you deem necessary. If there are incomplete/mistaken translations that you aren't sure of, use the talk page and I'm sure Chaos can clear up any issues. Editing in batches is perfectly fine. I usually go through quickly first to make changes to punctuation i.e. multiple hyphens into an em dash, curly quotes into straight ones, ellipses consitency, et cetera. After then I usually will go back and make changes to the text. Unfortunately I can't assist with the questions you posted on the Oreimo V11C4 discussion page; I don't have the originals nor could I read them if I did.

	It's good to have another editor working on this, if you have any other questions I'll be happy to assist as best I can. [[User:Kory\|<span style="color:Green;font:normal 10pt Papyrus, fantasy">Kory</span>]] 15:06, 6 June 2013 (CDT)		It's good to have another editor working on this, if you have any other questions I'll be happy to assist as best I can. [[User:Kory\|<span style="color:Green;font:normal 10pt Papyrus, fantasy">Kory</span>]] 15:06, 6 June 2013 (CDT)

			:Great. Thanks for your response! Especially with what seems to be such a small active team, it's good to know whether something like that would put me at odds with anyone on the project, or otherwise cause any trouble/problems. Just a note (and I may have said this already), but I may be a bit slow to start, as I'm still trying to get comfortable with the idea of editing, as well as trying to figure out what I should or shouldn't be focusing on/changing. I've edited plenty of my own papers throughout the course of my education, but rarely have I ever worked on anyone else's work, never mind trying to keep the final product consistent with the original from which it is TLed.

			:As far as the actual editing of OreImo v11 goes, while I don't mind a bit of redundancy on my end (esp. since I might take a bit of time before actually committing anything to the wiki), does it make any difference to you whether I begin from v11c04 or work my way back from the v12 prologue? Logically it makes sense to get v11c04 polished off first, but assuming I am able to make any non-trivial headway it might be faster to work from multiple directions. For the moment, I mostly intend to go through and tweak any obvious offenders while I try to figure out some of the finer points that are bugging me, or parts that might merit more substantial editing and thus require feedback from you, Chaos, or anyone else who might be active on the project.

			:Ah, right! Since I'm just starting I should probably point out that by no means am I implying my work will necessarily be sufficient for any particular section. Personally I consider input from multiple individuals generally superior to a singular viewpoint, anyway.

			:-[[User:Shift\|shift]] ([[User talk:Shift\|talk]]) 16:58, 6 June 2013 (CDT)

Kory: Hello

2013-06-06T20:06:32Z

Hello

New page

Hi shift, I saw your questions on Chaos' talk page. As for editing, you can just go ahead and post the changes you deem necessary. If there are incomplete/mistaken translations that you aren't sure of, use the talk page and I'm sure Chaos can clear up any issues. Editing in batches is perfectly fine. I usually go through quickly first to make changes to punctuation i.e. multiple hyphens into an em dash, curly quotes into straight ones, ellipses consitency, et cetera. After then I usually will go back and make changes to the text. Unfortunately I can't assist with the questions you posted on the Oreimo V11C4 discussion page; I don't have the originals nor could I read them if I did.

It's good to have another editor working on this, if you have any other questions I'll be happy to assist as best I can. [[User:Kory|<span style="color:Green;font:normal 10pt Papyrus, fantasy">Kory</span>]] 15:06, 6 June 2013 (CDT)