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Strike Forcer: /* Finished my pass through 1A/1B */

2015-03-10T11:22:43Z

Finished my pass through 1A/1B

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	All my big and little fixes are done for now...moving on to 2A/2B. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 01:24, 10 March 2015 (CDT)		All my big and little fixes are done for now...moving on to 2A/2B. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 01:24, 10 March 2015 (CDT)
	:I don't think 2A and 2B really need more than correcting some minor typos. Also, the ePUBs are already done. Good job on the worse parts of 1A and 1B.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 06:20, 10 March 2015 (CDT)		:I don't think 2A and 2B really need more than correcting some minor typos. Also, the ePUBs are already done. Good job with the worse parts of 1A and 1B. [[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 06:20, 10 March 2015 (CDT)

Strike Forcer: /* Finished my pass through 1A/1B */

2015-03-10T11:21:30Z

Finished my pass through 1A/1B

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	All my big and little fixes are done for now...moving on to 2A/2B. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 01:24, 10 March 2015 (CDT)		All my big and little fixes are done for now...moving on to 2A/2B. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 01:24, 10 March 2015 (CDT)
	:I don't think 2A and 2B really need more than correcting some typos. Also, the ePUBs are already done. Good job on the worse parts of 1A and 1B.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 06:20, 10 March 2015 (CDT)		:I don't think 2A and 2B really need more than correcting some minor typos. Also, the ePUBs are already done. Good job on the worse parts of 1A and 1B.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 06:20, 10 March 2015 (CDT)

Strike Forcer: /* Finished my pass through 1A/1B */

2015-03-10T11:20:54Z

Finished my pass through 1A/1B

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	All my big and little fixes are done for now...moving on to 2A/2B. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 01:24, 10 March 2015 (CDT)		All my big and little fixes are done for now...moving on to 2A/2B. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 01:24, 10 March 2015 (CDT)
			:I don't think 2A and 2B really need more than correcting some typos. Also, the ePUBs are already done. Good job on the worse parts of 1A and 1B.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 06:20, 10 March 2015 (CDT)

Txtracer: /* Finished my pass through 1A/1B */ new section

2015-03-10T06:24:00Z

Finished my pass through 1A/1B: new section

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	:::Ok, thanks for the clarification. I do go back through the edit history and try to tease out meanings when I see something that doesn't make sense. I'm sure you'll let me know if I go too far afield... :) --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 22:51, 30 January 2015 (CST)		:::Ok, thanks for the clarification. I do go back through the edit history and try to tease out meanings when I see something that doesn't make sense. I'm sure you'll let me know if I go too far afield... :) --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 22:51, 30 January 2015 (CST)

			== Finished my pass through 1A/1B ==

			All my big and little fixes are done for now...moving on to 2A/2B. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 01:24, 10 March 2015 (CDT)

Txtracer: /* Volume 1 Chapter 29 */

2015-01-31T04:51:20Z

Volume 1 Chapter 29

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	Less invasive of the original structure...assuming the translation was accurate. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 03:46, 30 January 2015 (CST)		Less invasive of the original structure...assuming the translation was accurate. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 03:46, 30 January 2015 (CST)
	::The translation by Midorikasa is definitely more correct and literal than the one by Suiri Megami Alice, so the latter was changed for the former. [[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 17:00, 30 January 2015 (CST)		::The translation by Midorikasa is definitely more correct and literal than the one by Suiri Megami Alice, so the latter was changed for the former. [[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 17:00, 30 January 2015 (CST)

			:::Ok, thanks for the clarification. I do go back through the edit history and try to tease out meanings when I see something that doesn't make sense. I'm sure you'll let me know if I go too far afield... :) --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 22:51, 30 January 2015 (CST)

Strike Forcer at 23:00, 30 January 2015

2015-01-30T23:00:11Z

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	Less invasive of the original structure...assuming the translation was accurate. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 03:46, 30 January 2015 (CST)		Less invasive of the original structure...assuming the translation was accurate. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 03:46, 30 January 2015 (CST)
			::The translation by Midorikasa is definitely more correct and literal than the one by Suiri Megami Alice, so the latter was changed for the former. [[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 17:00, 30 January 2015 (CST)

Txtracer at 09:46, 30 January 2015

2015-01-30T09:46:34Z

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	Hi. I`m going to translate Owari and Horizon on Russian. You made major changes in 1st volume of Horizon. Will be any changes in 1st volume Owari and any major changes in first chapters of Horizon? [[User:Sharkrahs\|Sharkrahs]] ([[User talk:Sharkrahs\|talk]]) 08:11, 14 November 2013 (CST)		Hi. I`m going to translate Owari and Horizon on Russian. You made major changes in 1st volume of Horizon. Will be any changes in 1st volume Owari and any major changes in first chapters of Horizon? [[User:Sharkrahs\|Sharkrahs]] ([[User talk:Sharkrahs\|talk]]) 08:11, 14 November 2013 (CST)
	:The first chapters in Horizon were in need of some serious editing, that's why I did it. Owari translation is pretty good and editing is not needed outside some occasional typos.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 08:27, 14 November 2013 (CST)		:The first chapters in Horizon were in need of some serious editing, that's why I did it. Owari translation is pretty good and editing is not needed outside some occasional typos.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 08:27, 14 November 2013 (CST)

			==Volume 1 Chapter 29==
			Going back through the edit history on this chapter, it looks like the meanings of several sections were significantly changed from the original translation posted by [[User:Suiri_Megami_Alice\|Suiri Megami Alice]]. For example, the edit you made on 2/22/14 changed

			:She looked at everyone thronged in the other side, and speculated their possible decision. Since she asked for a challenger, someone should step forward soon.

			To this:

			:Thinking that, looking at everyone on the other side, she started thinking about the possibilities.
			:
			:About the person that will come out to respond to her requirement for an opponent.

			Were those changes a result of going back to the original Japanese text and retranslating it? I ask because some of the changes were quite significant.

			:Shirojiro and Naomasa are unlikely possibilities either. Speaking of combat-types, the best choice would be Tenzo or Ulquiaga. After all, those two are undertaking combat training and had experience exterminating Youkais.

			Is quite different from:

			:Shirojiro and Naomasa were not with them, so if we're talking about dueling-types, it would be someone like Tenzou or Urquiaga.
			:
			:They were the ones taking on spirit exorcism cases to train their combat experience after all, to follow in their family's business or for their own career path.

			In the first version, Shirojiro and Naomasa are just "unlikely possibilities." In the second, they are not even present (presumably still cleaning up after their fight). And I know it's not necessarily canon, but in the anime Naomasa is there in the huddle deciding who to send out against Mitotsudaira. It's also better English to say "undertaking combat training" than "train their combat experience".

			I have no way of knowing which is correct, I just know they are different in more than just grammatical ways.

			My edit of the first passage would have been:

			:She looked at everyone huddled up together on the other side and wondered what they would decide. Since she had asked for an opponent, someone should step forward soon.

			And the second:

			:Shirojiro and Naomasa are also unlikely possibilities. Speaking of combat-types, the best choice would be Tenzou or Urquiaga. After all, those two were undertaking combat training and had experience exorcising spirits.

			Less invasive of the original structure...assuming the translation was accurate. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 03:46, 30 January 2015 (CST)

Kemm: /* San Mercado Brand */

2013-12-15T00:01:01Z

San Mercado Brand

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	Hi. I`m going to translate Owari and Horizon on Russian. You made major changes in 1st volume of Horizon. Will be any changes in 1st volume Owari and any major changes in first chapters of Horizon? [[User:Sharkrahs\|Sharkrahs]] ([[User talk:Sharkrahs\|talk]]) 08:11, 14 November 2013 (CST)		Hi. I`m going to translate Owari and Horizon on Russian. You made major changes in 1st volume of Horizon. Will be any changes in 1st volume Owari and any major changes in first chapters of Horizon? [[User:Sharkrahs\|Sharkrahs]] ([[User talk:Sharkrahs\|talk]]) 08:11, 14 November 2013 (CST)
	:The first chapters in Horizon were in need of some serious editing, that's why I did it. Owari translation is pretty good and editing is not needed outside some occasional typos.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 08:27, 14 November 2013 (CST)		:The first chapters in Horizon were in need of some serious editing, that's why I did it. Owari translation is pretty good and editing is not needed outside some occasional typos.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 08:27, 14 November 2013 (CST)

	~~== San Mercado Brand ==~~

	I post it here since the translator in question has not been seen in a month. I've seen you translate San Mercado's Japanese rendition as "Pure Metropolis". 大市 can mean either "big city" (metrópolis) or "big market". Given that 1)it's a brand and 2)"mercado" means "market", I'd say it should be translated as something like "big market", "central market", or even "supermarket". Translated into English from current Spanish it means "Saint Market", but in ancient Spanish "San Mercado" or "Santo Mercado" was closer in meaning to "Sacred Market". My dictionary gives me 清らか as "clean, pure, chaste". Looking at English synonyms, personally I'd translate 清らか大市 as "virtuous market", "unblemished mart" or something of the like.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:57, 12 December 2013 (CST)

Kemm: /* San Mercado Brand */ new section

2013-12-12T19:57:50Z

San Mercado Brand: new section

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	Hi. I`m going to translate Owari and Horizon on Russian. You made major changes in 1st volume of Horizon. Will be any changes in 1st volume Owari and any major changes in first chapters of Horizon? [[User:Sharkrahs\|Sharkrahs]] ([[User talk:Sharkrahs\|talk]]) 08:11, 14 November 2013 (CST)		Hi. I`m going to translate Owari and Horizon on Russian. You made major changes in 1st volume of Horizon. Will be any changes in 1st volume Owari and any major changes in first chapters of Horizon? [[User:Sharkrahs\|Sharkrahs]] ([[User talk:Sharkrahs\|talk]]) 08:11, 14 November 2013 (CST)
	:The first chapters in Horizon were in need of some serious editing, that's why I did it. Owari translation is pretty good and editing is not needed outside some occasional typos.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 08:27, 14 November 2013 (CST)		:The first chapters in Horizon were in need of some serious editing, that's why I did it. Owari translation is pretty good and editing is not needed outside some occasional typos.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 08:27, 14 November 2013 (CST)

			== San Mercado Brand ==

			I post it here since the translator in question has not been seen in a month. I've seen you translate San Mercado's Japanese rendition as "Pure Metropolis". 大市 can mean either "big city" (metrópolis) or "big market". Given that 1)it's a brand and 2)"mercado" means "market", I'd say it should be translated as something like "big market", "central market", or even "supermarket". Translated into English from current Spanish it means "Saint Market", but in ancient Spanish "San Mercado" or "Santo Mercado" was closer in meaning to "Sacred Market". My dictionary gives me 清らか as "clean, pure, chaste". Looking at English synonyms, personally I'd translate 清らか大市 as "virtuous market", "unblemished mart" or something of the like.--[[User:Kemm\|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm\|talk]]) 13:57, 12 December 2013 (CST)

Strike Forcer: /* Editing Owari / Horizon */

2013-11-14T14:27:10Z

Editing Owari / Horizon

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	Hi. I`m going to translate Owari and Horizon on Russian. You made major changes in 1st volume of Horizon. Will be any changes in 1st volume Owari and any major changes in first chapters of Horizon? [[User:Sharkrahs\|Sharkrahs]] ([[User talk:Sharkrahs\|talk]]) 08:11, 14 November 2013 (CST)		Hi. I`m going to translate Owari and Horizon on Russian. You made major changes in 1st volume of Horizon. Will be any changes in 1st volume Owari and any major changes in first chapters of Horizon? [[User:Sharkrahs\|Sharkrahs]] ([[User talk:Sharkrahs\|talk]]) 08:11, 14 November 2013 (CST)
			:The first chapters in Horizon were in need of some serious editing, that's why I did it. Owari translation is pretty good and editing is not needed outside some occasional typos.[[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 08:27, 14 November 2013 (CST)

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	Less invasive of the original structure...assuming the translation was accurate. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 03:46, 30 January 2015 (CST)		Less invasive of the original structure...assuming the translation was accurate. --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 03:46, 30 January 2015 (CST)
	::The translation by Midorikasa is definitely more correct and literal than the one by Suiri Megami Alice, so the latter was changed for the former. [[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 17:00, 30 January 2015 (CST)		::The translation by Midorikasa is definitely more correct and literal than the one by Suiri Megami Alice, so the latter was changed for the former. [[User:Strike Forcer\|Strike Forcer]] ([[User talk:Strike Forcer#top\|talk]]) 17:00, 30 January 2015 (CST)

			:::Ok, thanks for the clarification. I do go back through the edit history and try to tease out meanings when I see something that doesn't make sense. I'm sure you'll let me know if I go too far afield... :) --[[User:Txtracer\|Txtracer]] ([[User talk:Txtracer\|talk]]) 22:51, 30 January 2015 (CST)