Baka-Tsuki talk:Categories revamp project
Genre Suggestion
How about target audience? Shounen/Shoujo/Seinen/Josei.
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Also, while AFAIK we currently don't list any 18+ light novels (although there was one such story in SAO, it turned out to be a 3rd party doujin that SAO'author put on his website), they certainly exist, and unless there is some policy against them, there's a chance that one becomes popular enough to be translated... SinsI (talk) 08:24, 4 February 2014 (CST)
Yeah, what about the genres like : Adult, Doujinshi, Gender Bender, Hentai, Josei, Shotacon, Shoujo Ai, Shounen Ai, Yaoi, Yuri ??? I don't have a clue if we host such LN, but those are quite used in manga... (My reference being Baka-update, I just compared the genres they distinguish with the ones listed here.) I know for sure there was once a polemic, because someone wanted to start a Yaoi LN translation, but Teh_Ping said she (if I remember well) should go and do it somewhere else than here. So, it depends on the fact : will we or do we have such material ? At least we could add the Doujinshi, Adult and Josei genres, I think... Excepted for the adult one, there aren't really any prejudice against those and Doujinshi aren't always ecchi or "worse". Lery (talk) 15:16, 4 February 2014 (CST)
- There's a clause in TLG/Oni's rules that generally say pornographic or whatever content is generally not allowed... "UNLESS such material is deemed necessary solely by the merit of preserving the integrity of such work(a)" (SECTION D). But the agreement seems to imply that moderators should at least try to moderate any material that is blatantly suspected to be inappropriate. In either case, this needs to be formally defined in the rules before we start hosting hentai-light-novels (if those even exist?) Cloudii (talk) 21:05, 4 February 2014 (CST)
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I added :
- Adventure
- Historical
- Mecha
- School Life
Devenk83 (talk) 10:14, 4 February 2014 (CST)
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I added a number of ones including Slice of Life and target audience. I actually used some manga sites as references, and pretty much all sites in the manga world use about the same categories. I know you guys were talking about restricting the categories so that people shouldn't make new ones in the future, so it's safer to err on being broader than not. For example, I don't think we have many sports light novels, but it's a major category nonetheless, and you can't deny the possibly we'll get a sports light novel in the future. Cloudii (talk) 11:40, 4 February 2014 (CST)
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Do we really need a target audience genre ? Light novels' main target are young men and women, so all of them are either Seinen or Josei, and you can see it with their manga adaptation who are mainly published in seinen magazine. Devenk83 (talk) 13:36, 4 February 2014 (CST)
- There's a big split between shouen and seinen. According to how mangaupdates has BT projects classified, we have 50 shounen, 23 seinen, 4 shoujo, no josei.... IDK if people use those categories though. But that's how external groups have categorized the series we host. Cloudii (talk) 21:05, 4 February 2014 (CST)
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A lot of them are Shounen - Accel World, Baka Testo, High School DxD - anything that uses nosebleeds instead of erections. SinsI (talk) 14:18, 4 February 2014 (CST)
Genre suggestion - Kira's
- Action
- Comedy
- Drama
- Ecchi
- Fantasy
- Mature
- Mystery
- Non-Romance
- Sci-Fi
- Shoujo/Josei
- Slice of Life
- Supernatural
Explanation for why others should be removed:
- Adventure: Can be included in Fantasy normally.
- Harem: I don't think this is needed; Comedy-Romance or Drama-Romance should be enough. Plus, it's included in 80% of all romance titles on BT, so yeah...
- Horror: Can be included in "Mature".
- Historical: lol
- Lolicon: lol
- Martial Arts: -->Action.
- Mecha: -->Sci-fi
- Psychological: I don't have any example of one in head...
- Romance: Non-Romance would be much more useful.
- School Life: -->SOL
- Shounen/Seinen: Not useful at all, since almost every project here falls in one category or another.
- Sports: lol
- Tragedy: -->Drama
