Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance

[KuroiHikari]

Every elemental do possess elemental attribute, Est possesses the element of steel. So, if I were to phrase more correctly, I would say Est is a sword-type elemental.

Do voice out your points for or against, I review them when I reach home on the weekend.

[florza]

Every elemental do possess elemental attribute, Est possesses the element of steel. So, if I were to phrase more correctly, I would say Est is a sword-type elemental.

...Is that you, Pokemon?

[Hiyono]

Every elemental do possess elemental attribute, Est possesses the element of steel. So, if I were to phrase more correctly, I would say Est is a sword-type elemental.

...Is that you, Pokemon?

Genius.
The mistake we made was in confining ourselves to the choices of either "spirit" or "elemental", when what we really wanted was neither of them. Just think, they're mystical creatures of a variety of types (not limited to the traditional elements), that ally themselves with humans to engage in battles of sport. What are they if not Pokemon?

Let it always be remembered that florza was the one responsible for this great breakthrough borne of marvelous insight.

[Mystes]

I agree for the Pokemon term switch. Also, I'd like to switch "contracted" to "captured" in that case, please.

[Aurega]

I'd say it's something of an over-generalization to say that elementals are generally regarded as "without intellect". Consider this:

"In Britain names include Fairies, Elves, Devas, Brownies, Leprechauns, Gnomes, Sprites, Pixies, Banshees, Goblins, Dryads, Mermaids, Trolls, Dragons, Griffins, and numerous others."

That said, I will agree that names such as "sword elemental" sound pretty odd as well as add in that the "elemental spirit" shortening sounds good to me too.

From that same article:
"An elemental is a spirit embodying one of the five elements of antiquity."
It's a spirit! *gasp*

[chancs]

4 more chapters from volume 5

Yuppiieee

[KuroiHikari]

Flo... Metal is treated as an element in some places.

Putting that aside
Mizuho, if you don't mind, could you redo v5's epilogue?

[soranokira]

on your point kuroi, I would then point out that as such, Est would be more of a sword spirit with the element of steel, or a steel elemental, rather than a sword elemental (by default, the term -something- elemental refers to an elemental with the element of -something-.) While sword-type elemental sounds fine, sword elemental (the omission of -type itself) makes it sound like something totally different. Using spirit instead of element in such an occasion maybe actually help bring the point across better.
Although consistency helps, tl-ing sometimes requires bringing the point across better more so than consistency, hence I'm ok with using elemental as a default based on the author's intent, but just use spirit instead where it would sound better like in the case of sword spirit and mirror spirit. Also, what would mirror elemental refer to if that's the case? glass/sand/metal?
Alternatively, for consistency's sake, ignoring author intention (which isn't totally true, since the word used 'seirei' also refers to spirit), using all spirit the way it has been done until now works too. I've not really seen a situation where elemental explains something better than the spirit thus far, and I'll just quote Aurega's example, given that we're pretty much on the same side:

"An elemental is a spirit embodying one of the five elements of antiquity."

[1+1=1]

guys you are making me cry mass update after another *sniff* thank you guys

[KuroiHikari]

If I'm going to drop elemental, I'm going to drop all instances of elemental. It'd be sad to see elementalist go...

I mean: Sword Elemental Waffe!

[SXIII]

If I'm going to drop elemental, I'm going to drop all instances of elemental. It'd be sad to see elementalist go...

I mean: Sword Elemental Waffe!

How about you just use furigana in a way that every time elemental is used you have spirit above and when spirit is used you have elemental above? That way everyone can just use their prefered term. This will solve all of the elemental vs spirit problems by shifting it to furigana vs no furigana discussion.

[Mizuho]

Flo... Metal is treated as an element in some places.

Putting that aside
Mizuho, if you don't mind, could you redo v5's epilogue?

Yes, metal is an element in the Chinese structure of the five elements.

I will redo volume 5's epilogue. After the afterword though, since I already started that.

on your point kuroi, I would then point out that as such, Est would be more of a sword spirit with the element of steel, or a steel elemental, rather than a sword elemental (by default, the term -something- elemental refers to an elemental with the element of -something-.) While sword-type elemental sounds fine, sword elemental (the omission of -type itself) makes it sound like something totally different. Using spirit instead of element in such an occasion maybe actually help bring the point across better.
Although consistency helps, tl-ing sometimes requires bringing the point across better more so than consistency, hence I'm ok with using elemental as a default based on the author's intent, but just use spirit instead where it would sound better like in the case of sword spirit and mirror spirit. Also, what would mirror elemental refer to if that's the case? glass/sand/metal?
Alternatively, for consistency's sake, ignoring author intention (which isn't totally true, since the word used 'seirei' also refers to spirit), using all spirit the way it has been done until now works too. I've not really seen a situation where elemental explains something better than the spirit thus far, and I'll just quote Aurega's example, given that we're pretty much on the same side:

"An elemental is a spirit embodying one of the five elements of antiquity."

The author has been making it blatantly obvious that he thinks of the word "element" differently from how an English speaker would view it. Otherwise I would have to write something like "metal attribute sword element". It sounds better with "elemental" if I wrote it like that, but I still think "spirit" is the best choice.

[KuroiHikari]

If I'm going to drop elemental, I'm going to drop all instances of elemental. It'd be sad to see elementalist go...

I mean: Sword Elemental Waffe!

How about you just use furigana in a way that every time elemental is used you have spirit above and when spirit is used you have elemental above? That way everyone can just use their prefered term. This will solve all of the elemental vs spirit problems by shifting it to furigana vs no furigana discussion.

Do note that one or two furigana once a while works fine, but spamming it would make reading painful.

Thx mizuho

[zzhk]

Well, I suppose you could still use "elementalist" for the user because they all summon elemental waffen, while keeping "spirit" for the actual beings.
Sword elemental aside, it gets even more hilarious with beast elementals or forest elementals.

In any case, no one ever raised the question -- when a beast swarm spirit is summoned as an elemental waffe, what element is the weapon?

[chancs]

Ugghhh....there's too much of 'elemental' above.