Editing Talk:Rakuin no Monshou:Guidelines (section)

== Military Ranks ==

Okay I'm not good with military ranks, and new ranks keep popping up but my dictionary calls almost all of them officers, sometimes with a adjective in front of it. Anyway, I decided to post them here for now and how I'm currently translating them, so that translators/editors can give their input. Maybe somebody knows a good English equivalent, so that we can determine an official translation. The list is probably not yet complete because I will have to track back and new ranks will undoubtedly pop up. --[[User:Dohma|Dohma]] ([[User talk:Dohma|talk]]) 11:57, 29 August 2013 (CDT)

* 将軍 - 100% sure 'shogun' is the highest rank and means 'general'; just added this to top the list. Rogue Saian is one of Mephius' 12 Generals. Oubary is also a general but I'm not sure if he's one of 'the twelve', as they seem to be special.

* 士官 - officer, but the term is used in combination; like 翼竜士官 'winged dragon officer' is a rank Rogue Saian ''also'' holds. Meaning he's both officer and general...

* 将校 - my dictionary: 'commissioned officer'; Japanese wikipedia says it's a rank higher than sublieutenant (so is it a lieutenant?), but it's no longer an official term

* 下士官 Lit. 'low officer'; dict.: 'non-commissioned officer'. In Edo-Japan this was a term for one who was enlisted as an officer, but not of noble birth.

:* I have no qualms on the current translations for 将校 and 下士官. I still think Winged Dragon Officers are at the very least, worthy of the title of 'Commander' rather than Officer, as they are "capable of taking command of whole fleets." Regarding why Saian holds both titles, it could be possible that 将軍 denotes a rank only for controlling ground forces, while 翼竜士官 is a title denoting command of solely aerial forces. I'm also keeping a list of all the military ranks and will post them in the guidelines once I come across a few additional Garberan rankings(if they aren't already posted by then). --[[User:Detalz|Detalz]] ([[User talk:Detalz|talk]]) 11:33, 31 August 2013 (CDT)

* 武将 - this one just means '(military) commander', it's not really a title but a general term. A captain, general, officer - they're all commanders.

Here are some additional terms I've come across, though their meanings are straightforward enough:
十人長 - corporal (leads a squad of approximately 10 people)
百人長 - captain (approx. 100)

*Here's more light on the status of Winged Dragon Officers. There is schooling for them, so they could categorize as commissioned officers. This schooling seems to be highly geared towards the sons of nobles and military commanders(not too surprising). As for their rank, it's still pretty vague and can range, similar to the title of commander, but all Winged Dragon Officers leads units upwards of 100 people, so that means they all are capable of leading at least a small army. I get the feeling a commander might be more esteemed though, but I'm not too sure about this. Also, from what is written in chapter 2 of volume 2, it seems to imply that Oubary is in fact one of the twelve generals. --[[User:Detalz|Detalz]] ([[User talk:Detalz|talk]]) 16:34, 10 February 2014 (CST)