Editing Talk:Rakuin no Monshou:Guidelines (section)

== Names ==

I don't know where to put this so I'll just put it here, I'm positive Vileena's last name should be Auer and not Owell. --[[User:Kuratatsu|Kuratatsu]] ([[User talk:Kuratatsu|talk]]) 03:23, 26 December 2013 (CST)
:*I don't doubt Auer is one possible naming for アウエル, and 'Auer' is in fact the closest approximation for its romanization. However, I'm sure there were several reasons why Dohma had chosen not to use it. For me, I see a confliction between the naming of the first and last names if 'Auer' were to be used instead. This might be a skewed view on my part, but 'Vileena' and 'Jeorg'(as first names) appear to be names that would be transcribed in Western Europe, while 'Auer' is more likely to be one transcribed in Eastern Europe(as a last name). There isn't a problem with 'Ainn', but the former two simply don't pair up right with 'Auer' in my mind. Likewise, I don't believe the author ever exacted on the origins for the choice of his naming, other than basing them on European names, and it is highly possible the author just slapped them together. For these reasons, I abide by Dohma's decision to write it as Owell. If you can find a source that might indicate otherwise, please link it and I'll fix the name accordingly. --[[User:Detalz|Detalz]] ([[User talk:Detalz|talk]]) 19:54, 27 December 2013 (CST)
Isn't Auer a German/Swedish surname? I don't really think that counts as Eastern Europe... Wait, or was it Auerstedt for the Swedish one? Anyway, I really don't think it's classified as Eastern European.
:*Oh...woops. Also turns out German and English originated from the same roots. I was under the false impression German originated from the Norse language, but that was completely wrong. --[[User:Detalz|Detalz]] ([[User talk:Detalz|talk]]) 15:28, 28 December 2013 (CST)

I'm not sure if I'm replying in the correct way (sorry I don't use the wiki alot), well I don't think there's a official translation of her name like an image I can source if that's what you meant. It's just I can't find Owell anywhere as a surname whereas Auer is a real surname and completely fits the kata. There is Powell, Howell, Lowell, Orwell, the last of which is オーウェル which also brings me to the other point. There are exceptions like Gakusen Toshi but the ウエ should generally be　ウェ to read as "we", not always but I feel it's a point here. I'll also mention I completely respect all of you translators working on this ln so if you want to change a few characters' names I don't mind, I just wanted to point this out in case it was overlooked. [[User:Kuratatsu|Kuratatsu]] ([[User talk:Kuratatsu|talk]]) 14:18, 28 December 2013 (CST)
:*I'm aware of it, but I much prefer it the way it is. When I read the name at first, I read it as Auwell instead of Auer(Awer), since I'm not exactly familiar with German names. If you pay attention to the accentuation of the "Au" it can be pronounced "O" as "Oz" is in British as opposed to the "Ah" sound that is made in American English. Also, I have little to no knowledge of the German royalty, so everything I'm translating is converted to British/American sayings(as it ''is'' in English). So rather than simply use a German name and have them adopt British mannerisms, keeping the name British-sounding might be better. Keep in mind this is a fictional setting, and its not as if the names reflect back to historical figures, so much more leeway can be used in adopting names for these characters. It's quite common for never heard of names to be created in works of fiction. And even in translations of famous pieces of literature, I'm sure there are variations in the naming of some characters as well. Feel free to bring more discussions for things you think might need more polishing. I'm just putting in my own two cents and I'm not trying to intimidate you or anything if it came out that way. --[[User:Detalz|Detalz]] ([[User talk:Detalz|talk]]) 15:28, 28 December 2013 (CST)
:*I'd contest your suggestion that any of the characters in this novel were particularly more English than German, much less British (lol gladiators and dragon worship), but that would just be because I have a bad personality. 'Owell' hardly detracts from the story and even if it is a ridiculous non-existent surname, it actually feels normal when pitted up against most of the names in this novel. I'm rather thankful for your efforts, so please don't take this the wrong way.