Editing Talk:Clannad:SEEN0414 (section)

=== SEEN0414 and SEEN0415 Line Consistency ===
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SEEN0414 Original
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<0047> Probably wondering what her boyfriend (or girlfriend) would say.
// その彼（あるいは彼女）は、どう答えたのだろうか。
<0048> \{Girl} "I really, really do."
// \{女の子} 「わたしはとってもとっても好きです」
<0049> \{Girl} "But, nothing... can remain the same."
// \{女の子} 「でも、なにもかも…変わらずにはいられないです」
<0050> \{Girl} "Even fun things and happy things."
// \{女の子} 「楽しいこととか、うれしいこととか、ぜんぶ」
<0051> \{Girl} "Nothing stays that way forever."
// \{女の子} 「ぜんぶ、変わらずにはいられないです」
<0052> With great difficulty, she continues to speak.
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SEEN0415 Original
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<0456> I heard this line before. But this time,she's looking at me.
// 聞いたことのあるセリフ。今度は俺に向けられていた。
<0457> \{\m{B}} "Well, not really."
// \{\m{B}} 「いや、取り立てては」
<0458> \{Girl} "Is that so..."
// \{女の子} 「そうですか…」
<0459> \{Girl} "I really really like this school." // same with line 0048 from SEEN0414
// \{女の子} 「わたしはとってもとっても好きです」
<0460> \{Girl} "But, there might be nothing here that will never change." // same with line 0049 from SEEN0414
// \{女の子} 「でも、なにもかも…変わらずにはいられないです」
<0461> \{Girl} "Enjoyable things and happy things, all of them." // same with line 0050 from SEEN0414
// \{女の子} 「楽しいこととか、うれしいこととか、ぜんぶ」
<0462> \{Girl} "All of them will change."
// \{女の子} 「ぜんぶ、変わらずにはいられないです…」// same with line 0051 from SEEN0414
<0463> It's the same lines I heard yesterday morning
// すべて、昨日の朝、聞いたセリフだ。
<0464> \{\m{B}} "And then, you'll end up not liking this place anymore?"
// \{\m{B}} 「それで、この場所が好きでいられなくなったのか」
<0465> I said the last word.
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SEEN0415 With the lines from SEEN0414
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<0456> I heard this line before. But this time, she's looking at me.
// 聞いたことのあるセリフ。今度は俺に向けられていた。
<0457> \{\m{B}} "Well, not really."
// \{\m{B}} 「いや、取り立てては」
<0458> \{Girl} "Is that so..."
// \{女の子} 「そうですか…」
<0459> \{Girl} "I really, really do."
// \{女の子} 「わたしはとってもとっても好きです」
<0460> \{Girl} "But, nothing... can remain the same."
// \{女の子} 「でも、なにもかも…変わらずにはいられないです」
<0461> \{Girl} "Even fun things and happy things."
// \{女の子} 「楽しいこととか、うれしいこととか、ぜんぶ」
<0462> \{Girl} "Nothing stays that way forever."
// \{女の子} 「ぜんぶ、変わらずにはいられないです」
<0463> It's the same lines I heard yesterday morning
// すべて、昨日の朝、聞いたセリフだ。
<0464> \{\m{B}} "And then, you'll end up not liking this place anymore?"
// \{\m{B}} 「それで、この場所が好きでいられなくなったのか」
<0465> I said the last word.
// 最後の言葉は俺が言っていた。
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What I mean is, is line 459-463 enough to make Tomoya think about ''"And then, you'll end up not liking this place anymore?"?''
Line 49-52 in SEEN0414 seems to be missing some context which makes Tomoya's line '''"And then, you'll end up not liking this place anymore?"''' quite confusing if you put it in SEEN0415 Line 459-463.

I'll try to put type it in like a book novel to make more sense...

<br>'''First Group'''<br>
She said, "I really, really do... But nothing... can remain the same."<br>
"Even fun things and happy things... Nothing stays that way forever."<br>
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"And then, you'll end up not liking this place anymore?" Tomoya said the last line he thought she was thinking... <br>
"That's right." she replied.
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<br>'''Second Group'''<br>
She said, "I really really like this school... But, there might be nothing here that will never change."<br>
"Enjoyable things and happy things, all of them... All of them will change."<br>
............
"And then, you'll end up not liking this place anymore?" Tomoya said the last line he thought she was thinking... <br>
"That's right." she replied.<br>

You see the difference with the lines? The first group of sentence is emphasizing that nothing stays the same forever, while the second group is emphasizing that there might be nothing there that will ever change. The lost of context makes the first group sound like Tomoya just blurted out the sentence '''"And then, you'll end up not liking this place anymore?"''' without reason. ''Nothing stays that way forever'' and Tomoya's line doesn't seem to connect properly too. Compared to ''"All of them will change, and then you'll end up not liking this place anymore."''

--DGreater1

Oh. I see. Yes, you are right. First Group needs the "everything '''in this school'''" meaning to make sense. On the other hand, Second Group has it, so Second Group makes sense.

Nagisa's monologues implicitly include a little the meaning "everything '''in the school'''" in the Japanese text. Of cource, the monologues are the first one, which is talking to someone in her mind(SEEN0414), and the second one, which is talking to Tomoya(SEEN0415).

--[[User:Akiha|Akiha]] 12:29, 22 April 2007 (PDT)